I Forced Myself to Collect the Most Boring Army

In this video Jay shows off his most boring models in this collection! His Star Wars Legion Rebels. We have new videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday! We're streaming Monday-Friday starting at 9PM CST!! JOIN USSSS! Thanks for watching!
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[@Nigelius]

I thought the most boring army would be genestealer cults, after all they do a lot of boring, mining and drilling.

[@swordsaintkirito]

No they are least favorite lol

[@dantom8919]

You must have like 100 kids because that was the most dad joke of all time

[@k4t669]

best dad joke I’ve heard in years

[@bluephoenix9960]

Booo … I come to the internet to escape dad jokes, not join them!

[@Sh1ft3r123]

How long did that take to come up with eh?

[@MrArmour]

In terms of telling squads that look identical apart, I read a great tip on a historical wargamer's blog some years ago. He suggested that one unit could have puddles, the second long grass and the third bits of undergrowth. I revised it for ease of visibility and tend to use those little clumps of flowers you can buy these days. Of course, given your awesome Ewoks, that'd be another way of marking off the squads.

[@lazyvipurr4698]

Can also rim the base of the models in different colors.

[@thatone846]

@@lazyvipurr4698 That's the obvious choice and it looks super amateurish.

[@euansmith3699]

Using Ewoks as basing garnish is a great idea. 😍

[@MorAodhan]

Saw this comment before really watching the video and instantly went to thinking _'oh that's very savage and 40k like, to have bases adorned with Ewok corpses in a Star Wars game.'_ Obviously thinking it was going to be an _imperial_ faction. I was further confused then when I saw that it was the rebels...then obviously I saw the Ewoks...alive and not dead. Then I paused for a moment and thought wow, 40k really does something to you lmao.

[@euansmith3699]

@@MorAodhan 😆😆😆😆 A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, there is only *WAR!!!* 🐻💀

[@nachoman145]

i like how the video is called "I Forced Myself to Collect the Most Boring Army" but then talks with so much enthusiasm and excitement about that army. always happy to see that.

[@icewindofchange]

If you are bad at strategy, dont get leia, get specialist kit. It has Officer unit who is a cheaper and not as a complicated version of Leia, so you keep extra points for medic or engineer droid. They will keep your guys/vehicles alive longer

[@Dragonspirit223]

The thing I love about Star Wars Legion is how many references they pull from. The different styles of guns all have references from different sources

[@404annonymouscontent3]

Star wars legions really needs more spot light. It is such a good game!

[@Nuadaist]

Regarding command, try maybe Andor - he is pretty good. Also he works wonderfully with Luke's speeder, as he can shoot from there without moving. Also, a little point on the weapons: you can split the attacks in a unit by weapon types, meaning that a unit with 3 different attacks could split to shoot at 3 different units, and spread the suppression. If you don't need a particular keyword in your pool (like blast or pierce etc), it can be quite efficient to just shoot at another target. That could help you in the next game! Edit: forgot to say - very nice video!

[@321Isotope]

I love the mechanics of Legion. I hope Warhammer eventually goes to a unit-based turn system (like the tokens in Legion). I hate the way 40k does it now, I hate seeing someone come in for their first game, lose 3/4 of their army first turn by the try-hard competitive player, and never come back. I know, that’s just how it works sometimes. But I think some tweaks to the system could balance a bit.

[@RileyGein]

That’s why I prefer Kill Team

[@Choppytehbear1337]

That happened to me 15 years ago and only now am I thinking of getting back into it.

[@Securityguardanywhere]

That’s just baby raging, if you lose so much don’t give up and don’t just Never come back. You people don’t understand this clearly, if warhammer was token based it would scrap the APOCALYPSE feel that most people enjoy

[@NothingIsKnown00]

Agree fully. Although, the biggest problem is with the first turn. One player activates his whole army, in the most target-rich environment possible. There could be easier fixes to the problem IMHO. E.g. before the 1st player starts turn 1, the other player can move once. Would give him a chance to get extra cover for key units.

[@vibes_3080]

I have ZERO clue about Warhammer (or tabletop games in general)... How can I imagine "losing" your army, like doesn't it get "reset" after every game, or do they physically destroyed?

[@sies3334]

100% agree I got all 4 army’s wasn’t excited for rebels and turns out Sabine is my favorite unit to play she can clutch up so well “EXPLOSIONS!”

[@Bloodfencer1990]

Asmodee owns the Star Wars license but they gave it to Atomic Mass Games for some reason. I think Fantasy Flight did a better job handling the games but such is life. Also remember that your rebel units have abilities that give them a lot of dodge tokens. That's how you're supposed to bolster their survivability.

[@ElvaanRanger]

Great video as always friend 🤗 will you be bringing any armies this year to ADEPTICON? I’m hoping to get a couple games in this year at the free tables . Keep up the great work 😁😁😁

[@adamkrajco1920]

Didn't Fantasy Flight transform into Atomic Mass Games? I thought it was basically just a name change

[@relink555]

@@adamkrajco1920 Nope, FFG is still around, they're the board and card games division now, all the wargames were sent over to AMG

[@countmalin70]

​@@adamkrajco1920 everything is a sub division of Asmodee .....

[@countmalin70]

everything is a sub division of Asmodee .....

[@zano_korellio]

Bring the satellite dish cannon (FD Cannon I think) and some T-47. Tell Sean to have fun with the monster T-47s are and good luck getting sniped by the 1000-channel intergalactic TV station satellite dish lol

[@insomniacg]

Ah yes, the truly devious villain at the heart of the Star Wars universe: Shaun

[@mikep3494]

Echo Base Defenders is absolutely a great next purchase for you: Leia, Chewbacca, R2D2, C3PO, 4x Rebel Veterans, 4x Mark2 Emplacement Trooper, 2x Tauntauns and a Laser Cannon pizza dish. From there I’d also get the AA5 Speeder Bus (or two) and some Wookies. 😂

[@HunterShadowCloud]

Me and 4 friends play legion once a week. Love the painting schemes. If you want some really heavy hitting heroes get Chewbacca, Han and Leia those 3 synergize amazingly

[@40kpunk45]

Love my legion rebels! Get yourself some more mandalorians to go with Sabine… one box builds both Clan Wren and the generic mandalorians units!

[@xTheSupremoBurritox]

Legion Rebel main here, I play Leia all the time she is my favorite HQ but she is definitely a support character. But she combos well with Chewie who is definitely the throw at the bad guys solution you want!

[@theNOTprohomeowner]

Not going to lie, painting the rebels has actually been the most fun out of all of them. This is literally my first time painting minis, and the storm troopers just got repetitive. the Rebels I could change stuff up, new colors, and make each one unique.

[@Durnathi]

Rebel Troopers are amazing with Captain, Situational Awareness, and DLT upgrades. The AT-RTs are an amazing unit for their price though.

[@lolaldanee2743]

those are excelently painted they just suffer from one massive problem: they are no gungans

[@leeperry7068]

I dove into Legions last week and bought a boatload of rebel stuff, was nice seeing your advice of "just speedpaint" :) I really wanna try and solve the "rebel corps all look alike" thing, and since I don't care about looking like the real movie colors, I'm hoping that is easier.

[@mannypinerio9415]

Man... almost nothing he said about the rules is correct.

[@Tom-vy4uw]

Just stumbled upon this video. You're so enthusiastic about these games, it's a lot of fun watching you talk about it 👍

[@kingbonezai4925]

Most of the rebels do surge to defense, so they get a 5+ save!

[@WekBenHelix]

These paintjobs are crazy! Bravo. I'm trying to work my way to this level but I've got a ways to go.

[@AzraelThanatos]

I ought to get back into Legion, I kind of burnt out on it a long while back, before they expanded into the Prequel stuff...going through a second starter set along with more boxes over a very short time left me unwilling to really do more with it...which was compounded by a new dog who tore apart a good chunk of my rebels. Kept wanting the Republic stuff to come out, back with the WotC minis, I always went for either Republic or, rarely, Mandos As for the tauntauns, if you look at some of the pre-Disney stuff, there were tauntaun species on other planets including jungle and deserts

[@Northernmight]

Holy shit, it's the one guy who likes new Star Wars. Huh. It's like finding a unicorn!

[@HispAnakin42]

Oh boy, am I glad to see that legion is still alive! I’ve learned that the bog standard rebel are actually very useful if you use them right. I use them for holding objectives. You put them in heavy cover and give a dodge. This negates 3 hits which is huge! And they can spend a dodge and regain it meaning they always have a dodge when your opponent is trying to remove them off the objective.

[@odharrison23]

I like the fleet trooper with the Ewok shield! I love legion! Great game fun to play!! I paint the base rims different colors so all of this squad had a blue base rim. All of that squad has a purple base rim. Thanks gents! Fantastic as always!!

[@joshmalone7494]

Those look great! I've been painting up my stormtroopers from the starter box because I'm terrified to paint the rebels!

[@joahnaut]

Don't discount the humble speeder when the Toyota Hilux is the workhorse of modern day combat.

[@SPBurt1]

Love your rebel army, your enthusiasm. Thanks for the video.

[@Pengi_SMILES]

Beautiful army. Legion is such a great game, and the models are really fun to paint.

[@Grimmiger1]

Yaaaaas! The video I have been looking forward to! I also have a paint day today and this is great inspiration for my rebels. Also if you are looking for a cheap commander you can get a generic one with the upgrade pack and it let's you spend more points in the things you want to beat stick with. Also. Wookies.

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

I'd love if Starwars legion came out with a Hutt/Pirate faction

[@exittheparade]

Hey Jay, love the video! I would encourage you to read the newest set of rules because a lot of things have changed through the years. Also, AMG will be releasing an updated point balance this month, so look out for that too!

[@rjlarose5271]

Right now I'm planning 2 rebel builds. A Hoth themed one, using the new battleforce as a base. And a rouge 1 themed build. So im very exited. Also would love to see your other legion forces.

[@UnkleSanik]

Honestly I wish the Rebels had more vehicle variation, maybe some upgrade kits for Infantry considering how many non-humans the Rebels had. Like, the Rebels used a lot of repurposed Civilian and Republic technology, but so far we've only got 2 examples in Legion

[@chaoskarlos987]

Sounds like you should run wookies, chewie and ion weapons against shawn. Also you can take Mando as an op for the rebels and he is really good

[@lordbravura]

I think rebels and look way too cool if you add the different stuff such as Wookies and Mandalore. I really loved painting my Speeder. You can try operative Luke, is a cool model with diferent rules.

[@reptyler123]

You guys should do a models and memories about X-Wing. I played a ton of that game up until they changed the rules in 2.0. Lot of great memories would be cool to hear your take on it.

[@the-white-eye]

i dont care much for the actual wargaming part but i just love painting clone troopers. every one you can put hours into with just doing tiny patten details. both remaking my faves from the show and making up random new ones is so fucking fun

[@tiredofstupidnames]

Your rebel army is very well painted. I especially love the weathering on the vehicles.

[@voctur]

I am not a tabletop player, but more of a LEGO collector, but I feel you there. I mostly collect imperial stuff because they are the ones who have the cool vehicles, but when it comes to minifigs I love collecting rebels, I LOVE how customizable they are. You can just switch parts around, give them different heads, weapons and gear to make all of them lool different.

[@mmorehead74]

Glad you saw they points changes, but just a heads up in case u didnt see, there are new points again starting jan 1!

[@Therealflash69]

1:46 Ahhh yes my favorite jedi Luke Skypotter

[@Capin91]

I think you meant to say, ‘.. their _amazing, iconic_ racing bike helmets’ 🤣

[@Kubrzesz]

I’m sorry, did Jay said Luke SKYPOTTER at 1:45 and 5:30?

[@vera3311]

Was looking at the comments to see if anyone had noticed and I was like "Is no one gonna mention this???" Lol

[@Kubrzesz]

@@vera3311 Exactly. Was like, am I losing my mind?

[@bwild7859]

I’ve seen people use the landspeeder to carry saben up close to throw out her bombs! Could try that some time! I like watching team relentless playbook, they have some fun strategies!

[@Camikaze7]

Great video Jay, would love similar ones for the other factions!

[@quintonneal2881]

If you’re playing legion right, with updated points values, it’s a very balanced game. Rebels do tend to be a little underpowered, but not nearly as bad as some faction in 40k

[@direden]

This was hilarious. You're excitement is contagious. And many of the details about the game are inaccurate... but it didn't matter... because you were having so much fun 😂

[@zemrpereira]

these look so perfect, man. Love them love them love them!

[@lordbiscuitthetossable5352]

The thing that makes them “boring” kinda what makes them stick on my mind in the sliver screen. They served as the futuristic but also dated vibe of the setting while being realistic enough to get. Lucas clearly wanted his rebels to be shown as WW1/2 styled fighters given a modern splash fighting an ultra advanced and sleek regime of white coats and their impressive mecha. On a table top level it’s a little less iconic, particularly compared to the super overdressed imperium. But as much as I hate to use a line from the ROSW, they are “just people” from all across the galaxy. Thus with 3D printing and/or creative use of model lines, it’s possible to really create a super interesting yet coherent alliance to accompany the equally diverse heroes. To me, the Republic is one of the most visually boring factions because they are inherently sterile people that don’t exist beyond the war. You got clone troops, better clone troopers super clone troops then their mounted counterparts. To me their lack of inherit humanity is both their selling point and a detriment to ever want to paint them. Likewise the Empire is largely chromatic schemes that are a little hard to embellish.

[@fhammer07]

gorgeous paint on this army dude, well done.

[@lucifa_erus]

Me (a hardcore Star Wars fan) just getting a headache when you think about the time differences and the changes of the vehicles and armors. Besides the headache a very good video ones again 👍

[@JohnnySeptum]

what of the time difference?

[@PikaChu-vv9hj]

@@JohnnySeptum like if you make a republic vs empire game

[@JohnnySeptum]

@@PikaChu-vv9hj uh huh...and?

[@hermanpesina6328]

if you can force push an enemy into range of some fleets with standby its hilariously satisfying rolling that bucket of dice on them.

[@NormalPersonI]

Still love this awesome channel keep up the great work. Also just wondering what the best paints for rust are. I'm painting an ork combat patrol and I'm not too sure what to buy.

[@timunderbakke8756]

Vallejo has a couple of rust colors I really like for drybrushing.

[@no.6minis]

I’ve drybrushed army painter Dry Rust on my Orks and it honestly works really well.

[@MrFairbanksak1]

You did a great paint job on the minis. They look so cool.

[@Azeral.]

The only people in rebels i like are the clones and mandolorians. Plus for sabine, you could always just paint the shoulder and knee pads differently. Its easier

[@Guru_Swami]

Your Rebels look phenomenal! Any how to paint videos coming in the future? Edit: Speedpaints and Sorastro!

[@Genjitsu17]

The blaster hole in the land speeder wind screen looks amazing.

[@PossumMedic]

14:50 - It's confirmed! E.T.'s call sign is "Prune Face" 🤣

[@coach3467]

Amazing paint job. Well done.

[@timunderbakke8756]

Rebels have 5+ save. Battle droids have a 6+ save. Most rebel units get that “surge to defense”. By contrast, stormtroopers have a 4+ save, and the most durable units have a 3+ save.

[@LG-vu8eb]

Ya, feels like it though lol, and to be fair, that's quite a big difference in this game, since most heros only have 6 wounds, it's not like 40k where a squad of space Marines have 10 wounds.

[@hephaestion12]

Cant wait for you to show off your star wars legion imperials! My fave evil british space facists! ❤

[@SueBoi3909]

Like skypoder 😆 I know people get it wrong sometimes but I’ve never heard that one 😂

[@bleachorange]

If you paint the squad bases in different colors for each squad it can really help you tell them apart on the battlefield. edit: lol, paused right before you mentioned this lol

[@johnwigent3050]

The transport rules have been updated a long time ago. Units dont take hits when their transports are hit anymore. Also units can shoot out of open transports.

[@grahamcrackergaming630]

Luke is probably the best all around "beat stick" commander for Rebels. Cassian is super effective as a sniper, AND you get K2 in the box, but some of his mechanics are a little complicated. Han is also very consistent at damaging things. For you, I'd still say Cassian so you can do Rogue One themed stuff and get two fun models in the same box.

[@fireking0440]

jay if we were to ever battle in legion you had best hope for a miracle cause i run clones a lot and i role dice of fire that will burn through almost any army with ease.

[@TheAltesLama59]

I love star wars and star wars legion is such a nice game. I just hope it gets expanded continuously, I think there is still a lot to be created in terms of units.

[@ExtradaemonYT]

Legion models are the same size as 40k models. A common rebel trooper is the same size as a Space Marine.

[@jimmysmith2249]

I like how you added the ewoks everywhere.

[@PikaChu-vv9hj]

Cool to see some Legion, big sw fan but still thinking about getting in, just not having any friends to play any wargames lol. Really nice touch with the ewoks.

[@zarnistastudios]

I TOTALLY get that. It’s a wonderful angle to take collecting. Well done

[@charliecartlidge6156]

I'm loving this series !

[@montgomeryharr30]

X-wing was my favourite time ever in "wargaming". I loved the game so much

[@thejake1453]

Damn, have you ever done a video on the speedpaint, or can you do a video? I'd really like to see how it helped you and what you did.

[@drguineapig8755]

Technically, according to some of the comics, the Empire didn’t even invent the AT-AT’s. The Republic actually had them first, they just barely used them.

[@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel]

I play Jyn, I always have her running around the map shooting at things, I played 5 games, she survived all of them. I keep on hearing if you run her with the pathfinder, its a power house.

[@derrekingledue3138]

You FORCEd yourself? Your pun is impressive. Most impressive

[@utapaufroggo7454]

How did you do the bases they are very cool

[@oreettroll]

Han Solo is a pretty solid commander choice for Rebels too if you're looking for a commander that can output a lot of damage.

[@hampsterdam5852]

Those bases are amazing! Is there a tutorial somewhere?

[@TheDemonGyro]

I would love to see them go even further back and do old republic with a focus on low model count jedi and sith armies

[@Grimmiger1]

They are about to release Shatterpoint which is larger scale but fewer models like MCP. Currently just prequels but who knows where they will go.

[@Monstein]

When you where talking about a deck...did they change that? I thought it was tokens you randomly pull from that tells you what type of unit can go. I remember getting coin protectors for mine when the game first came out.

[@mikep3494]

He might be talking about Command Cards. The game still uses Order Tokens for activations.

[@biffa2987]

Started playing SWL from 40k and i love it so so so much more

[@joshpoulter2726]

Anyone else hear him call Luke Skywalker , Luke skypotter?😂

[@AgeofGuns]

I'd really like to see an Old Republic boxset with the Sith Empire vs The Old Republic!

[@williambond2267]

I want to play Republic but I want them to release the iconic LAAT Gunship. Just the image of it swooping down to pick up and drop off clones just does it for me. ATTE would be great as well.

[@richter-scale483]

I've heard you mention so many Star Wars table top games in the past - Have you ever collected or played Star Wars Miniatures (from Wizards of the Coast), it was a great game and I've always wanted to see how repatining them would work out

[@cinnamoncult]

Yeah I intend to mark my clone troopers differently per unit via just some markings, and the bases are going to likely be numbered.

[@ongakuchan587]

I love the fact that you have a different gel scheme compared to the cyan/blue & red light scheme that's overused by yt creators.

[@hyosube-loxely]

Minis looks amazing :)

[@ThePhoenix743]

I think AMG could step into the sequal trilogy with legion, plenty of new storm trooper variants to fill core, got those tread bikes and speeders from ep7. And an interesting scout walker that didn't get screen time. Resistance has all their own stuff that could be used, though I hope they give more love attention to the game now and help to solidify the base before expanding with another army set. Oh ya and we got plenty of new heros for both sides so they have plenty for command/specialists.

[@klakhouse]

i also have a rebel army i have never won with 😭 i noticed they all look similar too so i painted the rims different colors

[@colbybastian17]

For Legion, they have layouts that map the dice to normal d6s and d8s.

[@jack-a-lopium]

Are there rules for a horse race on the outside of a star destroyer?

[@jameslewis2635]

You should check out an old PC game called 'Empire At War' which is an old Star Wars title and specifically a mod called 'Awakening of the Rebellion'. This would give you quite a few more unit types to add to this army and make it a lot more interesting.