I love your videos. I have a pretty decent understanding of the nav log stuff, but this was easily the most confusing video I've seen on the channel.
@lukecole62034 жыл бұрын
You know you’re confident when you do the whole thing with a pen
@PilotDaveAviation3 жыл бұрын
I thought of the same thing !! Lol
@allenustianowski97573 жыл бұрын
You got that right!
@allenustianowski97573 жыл бұрын
I watch this video AGAIN, 6 months from the first time I watch it and it makes perfect sense now! First time I watched it I was totally lost, but now it make perfect sense. This video is more for an advanced student vs a new student and a great refresher! Good job.
@lukecole62033 жыл бұрын
@@allenustianowski9757 Lol, I haven't watched it in over a year. I'm about to go for my CFI checkride next week. I now can use a pen Update: I passed my cfi and cfii checkrides and am now instructing
@dartagnantapler71502 жыл бұрын
Erasable pen gang
@misaelcruz54434 жыл бұрын
This video is definitely more intended for pilots who have done Navlogs before and need to refresh. I could not imagine a Student Pilot being able to follow along. Great video though
@colbyjamesreynolds15163 жыл бұрын
As a student pilot that makes me feel a lot better😂
@haber12592 жыл бұрын
@@colbyjamesreynolds1516 one year later, do you better understand this video? I'm a student and I thought I was lagging way behind watching this.
@jasonbower9515 Жыл бұрын
Trying to prep for check ride. Also very very lost. Feels really overwhelming
@RealWoutLies Жыл бұрын
At several minutes in, I tuned out. Rapid/overwhelming info isn't useful to this 60 yo student. It's a great refresher, I'm sure. But...
@josephtorres352210 ай бұрын
Yup pretty hard to follow along lol I have mi iPad,calculator, charts, nav log and still can’t keep up lol
@JeffroBodine19474 жыл бұрын
I think I'll just walk!!!
@WoutervanTiel Жыл бұрын
Seriously archaic! This is exactly why computers were invented. Very nice to still be able to do this by hand and a great learning tool to get how the information is derived, but it is inexact, prone to making mistakes and slow. You did a nice job putting it together though.
@TheRealAndaar Жыл бұрын
My dad was born and raised in Charlotte, MI...thank you for pronouncing it correctly!
@rtoms19696 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpfull. To those that think he went too fast...note the pause and rewind capabilites of youtube. Magic!
@johnkeith80235 жыл бұрын
Ron Toms preach it Ron
@JeffroBodine19474 жыл бұрын
Jon, you have lost your ever loving mind.!! I ain't never going anywhere if I have to do all of this!!
@hessamstar5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video! I know it must’ve taken you forever to make the video but you are helping a lot of student pilots
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1995 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching!
@allenustianowski97573 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with Hesam's comment. This was a huge help for me. Little fast, but that's why they make the replay button. A lot of assumptions and you may not every get this detailed but totally agree you should know how and why you do this.
@colewhetzel86514 жыл бұрын
You just made this seem impossible honestly I can’t comprehend half of the things you’re talking about cause you start talking about something else before I even have the chance to comprehend what you were just talking about. Thanks for making this seem impossible!
@2Greenlid4 жыл бұрын
Cole, it’s called learning. Study for a few months & it will seem easy..just takes patience..
@philipstrugar5874 жыл бұрын
I'm a new CFI, and have assigned this video to all of my students in the cross country stage.
@DirectFTNSS3 жыл бұрын
I've been assigned this video and I don't even have my private pilots license yet XD
@marshallyoung78664 жыл бұрын
There are literally 113 tutorial videos before this finale to most PPL cadets. Any man can appreciate all the efforts that this man has put into this tutorial series.
@PaulGarthAviation3 жыл бұрын
What's *really* rewarding is, after doing all this stuff manually, is actually doing the X-C -- and it ALL freakin' works out really close to plan.
@Smokeybear694204 жыл бұрын
Your phone vibrating at around 18:45 tripped me out I thought I was getting a call lol
@dylanreichstadt89974 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this! I learned the Plotting & Wind/GPH Conversions separately, so it's good to see all of this put together. While some say you're going too fast, I appreciate the brevity and can easily go to a more detailed video if needed for the particular component.
@Victordamus983 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Could have gone a bit slower on the calculations with the E6B.
@MichaelRicksAherne4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Heads up that in the 172, your enroute climb can be higher than the table. (See 172S POH, section 4-25, "Enroute Climb: Normal enoute climbs are performed with flaps up and full throttle *at speeds 5 to 10 knots higher than the best rate-of-climb speeds* for the best combination of performance, visibility and engine cooling.") So you can round up 5-10 knots as needed to get even numbers, and you're technically following the manual even more precisely. ;)
@DanWeecks6 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed! Reviewing nav logs was on my to do list for today, so I'll definitely watch this. Thanks for your awesome videos Jon!
@esalenchik4 жыл бұрын
Will You’re aware that the video can be slowed down and replayed over and over, right? Creators can’t win on YT. Comments like “video was too long”, “not long enough”, “too much explanation”, “not enough...” Perhaps naysayers should try putting in all the hard graft to create their own videos before finding fault?
@mattsflightadventures2846 жыл бұрын
All these negative comments but I must say, This helped me out. I did a ground lesson with my instructor then watched this video. Made everything link into place in my brain. Sure, most have gps navigation today but for folks needing to learn the basics this is great..
@msnaturee4 жыл бұрын
This video helped me get through my private pilot training!! Amazing job
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1993 жыл бұрын
Glad it helps! Share it around!
@reydogmotor2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding me why I didn’t do well in this area. But I did get it once upon a time. So, now I’m trying to get back into it and hoping to better understand this again.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1992 жыл бұрын
You can do it!
@1UTUBEUSERNAME4 ай бұрын
New drinking game. Every time OP says "go ahead" have a shot or a beer.
@marinamonpere56333 жыл бұрын
Excellent , very detailed explanation that tied together learnt theory about performance calculations and all that "true-calibrated-indicated-ground-pressure-density" etc etc to practice . Thanks for posting!
@hadidididi5 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian ppl holder, revisiting your works help me set a starting point in my material reviews. Good to have you back in the few valuable instructors pool.
@pappybo492 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was fun. I haven’t used that stuff in years, just brushing up reminds me what flying was really all about when I was learning to fly in the ‘60s. Thanks for reminding me that we didn’t need gps or an autopilot to fly. I’ve so lazy I fly a glass panel and an autopilot on my bush plane Simulator. Thanks again for sharing your expertise. I always enjoy your videos !
@LostInSpace1755 жыл бұрын
starting commercial soon...crazt how u can forget some basic such as toc.. lol
@mjjstang5 жыл бұрын
I just spent my night planning a xc in Xplane. Using this video i was able to plan a 51 min flight that ended up being 52 minutes. Landing wasnt so great. Now to find someone to teach me in the real thing. I also cheated and calculated a vor radial and distance to vor as a checkpoint but to be fair, the computer graphics dont lend well to VFR checkpoints. Thanks for this great vid. Oh and I'll echo how i feel this way is useless with GPS but if FAA wants me to learn it, so be it......
@KennyWeslax5 жыл бұрын
I have that same pen, used it to plot my first cross country today also using this video. Small world man, small world.
@yogevbarshavit5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Jon. Now that I’m so close to the check ride, I needed this video desperately.
@FisVii77 Жыл бұрын
do you teach out of willow run or ann arbour, no rush on response, I like the way you teach, appreciate all your videos and experience thanks mike.
@automaster2092 жыл бұрын
Do you factor in declination? Magnetic north is usually off by a few degrees depending on the time of year.
@kimberlywentworth9160 Жыл бұрын
Doing Nav logs by hand really makes you appreciate Foreflight. You have to do this manually like this so that you understand what is going on. Then when you get Foreflight you are amazed. I still like to use the paper maps and platting at times to be sure I find the correct VFR points. I also like the paper Nav log because it has all of the infor on paper in one place. Be nice if There was one in excel that would help with the manual calculations.
@kingck1014 жыл бұрын
pilots phone starter kit, E6B, AvWeather, Tinder and bumble
@flyhigh4fun3 жыл бұрын
Yeaa I think hes more confident to show his phone apps than his flight plan knowledge lol Tinder 🔥🤣
@orlandospencer6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. cleared up some stuff for me with using this log. just started using this format Nav Log
@RelaxinRoy5 жыл бұрын
Good gouge, but gotta say the PA-28-181 (Archer III) POH did not make things easy. Figuring GS is still tough. I had to do a lot of hitting the pause button, and replay to get this down. Still, THANKS A MILLION. This is the best video I've been able to find on the subject.
@jondale43483 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain on the Old Piper POH :)
@808_murda2 Жыл бұрын
No way? You're from Michigan too? Have you ever flown to ptk or ozw?
@jfrankfather4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your investment of time. That was a very good explanation of cross country planning.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1994 жыл бұрын
Of course... Glad it helped ya!
@Flywithparker3 жыл бұрын
Big swag shout out to Ken Burrs @ NAFC for showing me this before my x-country 🐐
@Capitulum113 жыл бұрын
OMG just do it!
@timschiro41403 жыл бұрын
Your video was very helpful. Excellent job!
@king_georgieo572 жыл бұрын
It's kinda funny how this episode is #114, my long dual night xc is 114 nm in total! Cool coiwinkydink
@PhilMcGowan3 жыл бұрын
Thanks @fly8ma this was hugely helpful as I do my first cross country flight plan by hand! To those saying this is too fast or confusing, if you can’t follow along with this you might want to review ground school again...
@rrz4645 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vid. Definitely helped out as I planned my first XC from BJC to CYS.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1995 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Check out the site for more vids: www.fly8ma.com
@davidvanniekerk38134 жыл бұрын
Dankie/ Merci. It is much better to understand. MMmm.... 1 gal = 3.7L! 50Gal = 185L quite expensive too. Thanx for the video.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1994 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped ya!
@davidvanniekerk38134 жыл бұрын
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 Thnx. To make good decisions, you must have good info. How to get out of ZA (and back)? Now, sins 1994, things have really change. There is only two ways. Ship of plane. Ship is cheaper and longer.(2 Kind of ships: Cat.[slow]) & Classic [slower] Plane is fast and expensive.! The closest First world land is St. Helena (Eng) & Reunion (Fr). It was not in that video. Airport tax in is also a factor. $150 for a international airport and municipal airport is $100. What kind of small plane can make the jump? What is the last international airport on the ZA side? Durban/ King Chaka Zulu or Nelspruit-Kruger International? Lots of information... I
@ele48533 жыл бұрын
with the speed you speak, this is good for those that know the subject. why would the ones knowing the subject watch it this? oh, ok to pad you on the back...
@Jeffrey-Flys5 жыл бұрын
So, I totally get the system and the math, AND I thank GOD for the electronic Flight Navigation calculations that SkyVector or Foreflight do FOR YOU
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
Thank the programmers ;-)
@mikemike60964 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the technology nowadays, but I still respect this type of planning and It's how I learned years ago. E6B, it's been a few moons since I've used that calculator, haha
@elunico136 жыл бұрын
I always give your videos thumbs up. Great resources!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1996 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Share us on Facebook and with your friends around the airport to spread the word!!!
@dougkehoe37583 жыл бұрын
What plane is that?...Aerostar? With overhead lites? Analog is the gateway mathma . Wish u did more math on the wiz wheel...quick 1-2-3s always worked for me. This then that. I’m liking my fly8MA hoodie!
@ShawnCampbellFlynBetty4 жыл бұрын
I know this video is already long but, He spoke to fast and went way to fast through this. thank goodness for the pause button. Also, I like filling in all the squares. Overall, I like this guys style of teaching.
@ahmadtheaviationlover19375 жыл бұрын
this is just pure maths, I found the VFR cross country flying hard!!!
@seetheworldwithben7472 жыл бұрын
I guess i was really paying attention to your video, i even saw your Tinder app on your phone. Lol
@georgemathisen38053 жыл бұрын
Regarding the altimeter setting to obtain pressure altitude for cruise; would it be suggested to get the pressure setting for the departure airport and the destination airport and average it out to get a better estimate for the altimeter aloft to have a better understanding of what the cruise performance is?
@BoomerBlogging6 жыл бұрын
After watching all of this I am so far behind that I actually think I'm ahead. My plan B - take up sailing . . .
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1996 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't check out just yet....sitting down with the right CFI for 30 minutes or so can usually sort all that out!
@BoomerBlogging6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - just started my PPL on Sunday - at age 59 - your videos are amazing and will be checking in as a patron.
@flyer95446 жыл бұрын
Follow your dreams...
@goldie9864 Жыл бұрын
@@BoomerBlogging Seeing this comment 5yrs after you posted....hope you got the PPL. I started late too (50), just solo'd and x-country is next. Slower to learn than when I was a teen.
@ritchierich28205 жыл бұрын
For the cruise performance chart did you use the temperature aloft or did you just use the airports temperature? Same for the altimeter setting ?
@2Phast4Rocket3 жыл бұрын
The FAA allows you to use the electronic EB6 computer in the written exam now and I am perplexed why the DPE still require people to fill this out. It is literally done once during the check ride and will never be done again. What is the use of the exercise again?
@davidsosa53692 жыл бұрын
At 10:40 How is the temperature -10 degrees centigrade at cruising altitude if your flying 4500? You have -6 on the surface and you're cruising at 4500. Don't you lose -2 degrees per thousand feet? I feel like numbers are being thrown around here.
@andybader2 жыл бұрын
That is standard lapse rate, which is a theoretical assumption. He's interpolating using the winds aloft forecast.
@ritchierich28205 жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone does cross country planning differently 😒
@DICEcontent5 жыл бұрын
And every single flight plan log looks different
@simauriveiro63405 жыл бұрын
Yeap !
@loner_35865 жыл бұрын
I swear🙅😂
@myotherusername92245 жыл бұрын
and every time you get in a new cockpit, the controls/instruments/seating, ergonomics, etc., are all different. What's the same? Physics, chemistry and gravity. Maths. The basics: www.amazon.com/Stick-Rudder-Explanation-Art-Flying/dp/0070362408 I once read a story by a guy who had the great good fortune once upon a time to right seat with Yeager in a seaplane Yeager had never flown. He said Yeager's every landing was *perfect*. Did you know Yeager used to own a Part 103 Quicksilver? I think the more different ways I learn to do something,the more firmly I grasp the underlying essentials. Variety: it's a feature, not a bug.
@PaulGarthAviation3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Everyone gets to their destination... eventually.... LOL!
@alejandrosanchez22223 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Great video and explanations, definitely won a subs
@jltaviation4 жыл бұрын
A good check point I love is VOR checkpoints. That way I can locate where I'm at at all times and locate myself on the sectional chart...
@FlyingJournalism3 жыл бұрын
@ 22:14 ..how many dates did Jon get on tinder after this video🤷♂️🍾? I bet a lot!👍👍👏
@captainnickgyver55936 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful, thank you! One thing I'm confused on: Why didn't you take into effect/interpolate the Temps for the time,fuel and distance to climb chart? The chart at sea level lists standard temp but the temp for the flight is -6.
@joshuaAviate4 жыл бұрын
How do you expect the altimeter setting if you're planning to fly the next day?
@Mooja123 жыл бұрын
Same question here. I got to the 8 min mark and stopped because i'm unable to predict future barometric pressure.
@goodisnipr Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, now a challenge for the viewers is to do it all again with the RPM at 2.1k to see if there's a fuel savings.
@avia30895 жыл бұрын
This is so difficult but understandable
@kentuckysugarbear96442 жыл бұрын
Loved this. Super helpful. But 42.1 minus 2 does not equal 42 gallons. Still loved the video. Keep them coming!
@fish7days6 жыл бұрын
Very timely !! Comm checkride coming up !!! Great vid as always !!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1996 жыл бұрын
Glad it helps! The commercial checkride prep course is almost live on the site at www.fly8ma.com !
@oofmcgoof63864 ай бұрын
Lol my flight school gave me this video to work with, turns out it’s exactly the same thing I’m doing - KARB to KFPK
@AaronHartwell5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to make it!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1995 жыл бұрын
Of course!! Feel free to share it around with your flying friends!
@samuelsoane42374 жыл бұрын
this video help me a lot thanks
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1994 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that!
@juliuscaesar1726 жыл бұрын
hey man awesome video!!! this helped me loads
@MH-uz2wy Жыл бұрын
Dude flies through the E6B instructions like speedy Gonzalez. It would be a great video if he actually SLOWED DOWN and taught like it was someone's FIRST TIME
@muffinman67396 жыл бұрын
Great informative video, just have trouble seeing what you put down on the nav log because your finders are in the way most of the time.
@The_R_Vid4 жыл бұрын
Not a pilot, though I did follow what you did here. I've never thought about much you'd need to write down in flight. What do you recommend for a left handed pilot flying something like a Cirrus, with a side stick? Should that pilot fly from the right seat, but then they'd be farther from the instruments. Or are lefties limited only to flying aircraft with yokes? Or regularly use autopilot to free up their writing hand to record instructions from ATC?
@petegerst10152 жыл бұрын
can someone send me a pdf of this navlog sheet? haven’t found anything better. Thanks in advance and for an awesome video
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1992 жыл бұрын
On our website at fly8ma.com/
@toddw67163 жыл бұрын
your the best! good easy to follow.
@kimberlywentworth9160 Жыл бұрын
The winds where I fly can change quite a bit where fly. I am am getting old 8 hour old wind data.
@carlsonlemos99272 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks
@pabloendara52854 жыл бұрын
great instructing.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1994 жыл бұрын
Happy it helped ya!
@badgerfishinski6857 Жыл бұрын
What is standard temperature at 4,500 feet? Since sea level its 15C. and we know a standard temp lapse rate is 2C per 1000 feet, would the standard temp @ 4,500 be 6C? Please validate. Thank you.
@devilik3692 Жыл бұрын
yup, dude a bit clueless on what he does yet being confident on some bs he does, i say it as cfi lol
@piperpilot442535 жыл бұрын
Best video for X country planning. Perfect to send to my students.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1995 жыл бұрын
Glad that it helped!!
@AhmedAli-xy2jd6 жыл бұрын
amazing explanation, great job. Many thanks.
@jamiehord10094 жыл бұрын
It is my dream to build an All-Electric Ultralight airplane and fly it all around the country because I will be able fly from AM civil twilight to PM civil twilight and will not be limited by my gas tank. I'm learning about flying with a map & compass as a backup method. I'm sure I will map out off my routes with a paper map along with using my GPS just in-case I have electronic issues in mid flight. I will continue flying without my GPS.
@floatingbunt39295 жыл бұрын
Your use of the E6-B is painfully vague
@babyboi01034 жыл бұрын
Everything he explained was painfully vague for a student pilot who's never done a lot before. Such as my life with most CFIs
@stonewall57924 жыл бұрын
Floating Bunt You don’t have to use a old e6-b, especially on check-rides.
@Maxmilion60044 жыл бұрын
@@stonewall5792 are you sure?
@JetUpKoala4 жыл бұрын
Max Sperlich Maybe past PPL?
@Maxmilion60044 жыл бұрын
I agree with these comments about cfis being horrible at teaching this shit and it really comes off as they dont want to do it but have to. Its fucking annoying. Check out part time pilors channel. I went from being pissed off and confused to plotting my own shit from weight to balance to performance and climbs in a half an hour. He makes things so easy to understand and breaks it down. Again part time pilot. These otger cfis on youtube never get back to people. Unless something negative is said. People alays respond to negativity. Its sad. But most of the courses are like ask questions and we will get right back to you and you can see unanswered questions from 2 years ago
@HistoricalWonder7206 жыл бұрын
Pro tip, use the 60 minutes used for planning and get in the car and get a head start.
@mrAZcardinal5 жыл бұрын
@The Punisher is he wrong though
@Jeffrey-Flys5 жыл бұрын
"Where we're going there are no roads!!!!"
@WinginWolf5 жыл бұрын
Just top it off when flying short distances :P. Takes me a while to fill in the navlog, and I also get sort of picky when it comes to marking distances on the map. Even though climbout may take "5 nautical miles", I know I have to climb out to 1000ft AGL before I can even begin my turn to course, so I may arrive to top of climb at an earlier point since I did a bit of detouring before arriving on course. Flying out of busy, towered airports makes it trickier since you're likely to get vectored around before you can proceed on course (I was several miles North of my plotted course due to vectoring but eventually made it on course).
@Dan007UT5 жыл бұрын
For PPL practical test, do you do all of this before it starts or while the DPE is over your shoulder?
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
Beforehand, typically. Which is kind of moot, because the most volatile part - wind correction - makes the most sense to do immediately prior to the flight. But the DPEs also know you'll probably never ever do this in your life again, so they let you do it at home and bring a properly filled but out-of-touch with reality nav log to the exam. Sigh.
@ruslanmubarakzyanov2523 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!It’s very helpful!
@zacharyfair67384 жыл бұрын
Is this the OCD version? student pilot who wants to learn the correct way, but this seems extreme
@li0nh3art3026 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, you did a great job!
@paulraymond36223 жыл бұрын
Why not use the e6b for time? Why not figure fuel as accurately as possible and then apply a calculated margin of error? Maybe 25% more, 30% more? What ever you as PIC are OK with, at least you know instead of, well I added 'some' more Mr. NTSB Investigator. Just a though, take it or leave it.
@fobypawz4183 жыл бұрын
after watching this, it seems Speeds, Winds, Temperature, Air Density, Fuel consumption, those few little things seems to create alot of challenges when trying to find a single landmark without GPS!
@andybader2 жыл бұрын
Really drives home the importance of pilotage and picking out good reference checkpoints!
@Pilot_engineer_192 жыл бұрын
Sure be nice to automate this process. With all the computer power around someone should do it.
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
dear god... I'll do this once, for my PPL checkride. Or if I ever need to fly several hundred miles over the ocean in a pre-digital aircraft with a 6-pack. Where a paper map, the mechanical compass, an airspeed indicator and a wristwatch - would be my only means to guestimate my position and find the island or aircraft carrier - the only place I could land, within hundreds of miles of open ocean. But, only an insane pilot would actually go through all this before a local VFR flight within the continent. Even an interstate one. Heck even an IFR one...
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1993 жыл бұрын
It gets quicker and much easier if you practice 👍
@miguelalejandrina5 жыл бұрын
We don’t average winds aloft. We interpolate them.
@darellgaray3817Ай бұрын
Where did he get the winds aloft on 13:14, I feel like if he got for the wrong airport.
@chrisjavier17674 жыл бұрын
The last part, at 37:53 in the video, you said "42.1, and another 2 gallons for messing around/margin..." Where the total you wrote is 42.1, if it was 42.1 to start, and you're burning those extra 2 gallons, wouldn't the total be 40.1 instead of 40.2? Maybe I'm missing something or didn't understand something, new student pilot over here so please correct me if I am!
@AbdulazizAlmawash3 жыл бұрын
how did he determine the pressure altitude for cruise with the altimeter setting of 30.42?! METARS? They show only current & past altimeter settings. not useful when my flight is after an hour or more. TAFS? Looked for many, they do not show altimeter settings at all.. How?.. just how..cuz i cant go to the next if even that I didn't know how to calculate. I hate blind following..
@EngineerPrepper3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a pdf version of that nav log to follow along?
@michaelzaug875010 ай бұрын
Sister Rose would have hit your hand with a ruler. 😂 😂😂
@eddiea81676 жыл бұрын
Doing this now in my training. Thanks!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining1996 жыл бұрын
Glad it helps ya out! Check out some of the new courses on www.fly8ma.com !