Ep 251 HEZBON ODIERO part 1 - GETTING CHARGED FOR THE 1982 COUP

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@oleubaiga3748
@oleubaiga3748 10 ай бұрын
At least I'm listening to the person who saw the scene. One of your comrade was my mentor all through my occupation. He was a gunman back in the days ... thanks for your service sir
@IkoNini
@IkoNini 10 ай бұрын
🔥🔥
@Bakora965
@Bakora965 Жыл бұрын
I love how these old timers are bringing up history. Mwafrika digging from the Archives 🙏
@KushMuhoreri
@KushMuhoreri Жыл бұрын
I never thought it could get this interesting. It seems there is a lot of information out there that needs to be dug up! Shukran Mwaf for always raising the bar.
@lucymaina9236
@lucymaina9236 Жыл бұрын
My late husband was soldier stationed at langata barracks and became a victim of circumstance, jailed for four years at kingongo maximum prison for nothing.Thereafter he got out of prison totally depressed, lost his job and benefits and to cut the long story short he died miserably leaving us with nothing.He had served in the army for nine solid years
@stephenajwang1593
@stephenajwang1593 10 ай бұрын
This was unfortunate
@mussumbafelix
@mussumbafelix 10 ай бұрын
so so sorry, I wish he did some investments
@stevenyanaro7995
@stevenyanaro7995 8 ай бұрын
Sorry
@JohnKanyoi-r8b
@JohnKanyoi-r8b 20 күн бұрын
Pole sana, my dad also served in force's..those years were very bad and sensitive to soldiers because of bad politics.. jeshi had a lot of special branch police..small mistake always ended with court martial..
@soloibrahim9673
@soloibrahim9673 Жыл бұрын
This soldier is talking sense iko kitu ana jua politics is a dirty game .
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@vctor6768
@vctor6768 9 ай бұрын
Leshan was taken at Gunpoint...this guy is confused
@pmashaa1116
@pmashaa1116 Жыл бұрын
Ji-Tenge and Odiero need to seat at a round table and exchange their experiences that will be very rich for History buffs
@dennohtobby
@dennohtobby Жыл бұрын
Me 2
@vctor6768
@vctor6768 9 ай бұрын
I trust ji-tenge this guy is confused
@jfnat1891
@jfnat1891 Жыл бұрын
My Uncle was in Air force, he was just 19...got locked up but released after some short time ..was reinstated back to Air force in early 2000s , retired recently ..i salute him , went through unnecessary turmoil in his prime
@curtiskamau5512
@curtiskamau5512 Жыл бұрын
Salute to AFCO beer, I got a lot of babes and 6 kids to show.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
Pole kwake
@lisaogembo473
@lisaogembo473 Жыл бұрын
Everyone of this guys should write a book ,that way they can get their stories straight and we can piece everything together. This interviews are good but leave alot of spaces in that they confuse or forget some things( understandable )and as such great confusion. Congrats to the chanel for bringing us this interviews.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@njorogeikonye
@njorogeikonye Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
Asante sana Njoro!!
@Bakora965
@Bakora965 Жыл бұрын
I love how our seniors are breaking it down.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@milcahmuraguri6493
@milcahmuraguri6493 Жыл бұрын
Charles Njonjo was Minister for constitutiona affairs then.
@bwanaemmanuel5952
@bwanaemmanuel5952 Жыл бұрын
This man has scantily organized in thoughts. Emotions are clouding his trail of thought. Not convincing as I expected.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@dukeofothaya5039
@dukeofothaya5039 10 ай бұрын
I agree he is even contradicting sometimes exaggerating events which are well documented by mi6/cia/mossad just read charles hornsby's Kenya
@ogana_M
@ogana_M Жыл бұрын
It is true Moi through Kanyotu who had planted Special Branch spies in the military knew about the coup at least a few days before it happened.When Kanyotu sought permission from Moi to arrest the coup plotters,on Friday 30th July 1982 at the Nyeri show ground, Moi felt it was wrong for police to arrest the military and left it for Monday 2nd August for the military police and military intelligence to carry out the arrests on Monday 2nd August,but the coup happened a day earlier on 1st August 1982 a Sunday catching Moi off-guard.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@vctor6768
@vctor6768 9 ай бұрын
Best explanation
@johnbirgen7552
@johnbirgen7552 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you 💯 per cent. The sad thing here is that some NCOs were jailed for failing to suppress the mutiny yet C.I.C.himself when he had been briefed by intelligence officers (Kanyutu) did not take drastic steps to arrest the situation. Moi should have been the first respondent in court marshal in Langata barracks. Why?--- He knew and failed to stop the coup. I know it sounds odd but I tell you innocent soldiers and NCOs suffered in jail UNNECESSARILY.
@G_dan
@G_dan Жыл бұрын
How on earth does Hezbon remember all these things? Mimi ata sikumbuki nilikula nini jana😂 Very interesting interview.
@oleubaiga3748
@oleubaiga3748 10 ай бұрын
Yooooo brooo ..tetetetete it's the joint. Big up bro kazi njema
@IkoNini
@IkoNini 10 ай бұрын
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@omolothedon6513
@omolothedon6513 Жыл бұрын
This shows how iko nini cuts through generations,timeless content mazee big up
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@blackppt_
@blackppt_ Жыл бұрын
Iko nini is Iko nini🎉🎉
@daudi.blooms
@daudi.blooms Жыл бұрын
Mwafreeka Big up for this story. I believe this is the history we never hear.
@gracespaxx8227
@gracespaxx8227 Жыл бұрын
Mwaf and team y’all are doing amazing!!! love your work 🔥🔥 Happy holidays
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@Jitenge98
@Jitenge98 Жыл бұрын
I have watched the whole video with a lot of interest. I have many observations.
@wycliffepoet5201
@wycliffepoet5201 Жыл бұрын
Part 2 has dropped today chief
@michaelmagga2317
@michaelmagga2317 Жыл бұрын
Why are commenting so frequently @ji-tenge38 It seems you fear something is about to come out clearly 😂😂
@vitalisopel1291
@vitalisopel1291 Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother,we’ve got it now from the Horse’s mouth,seems Mr,Katwenge feeds us with rumors and stories from the exe’s in village local brew dens
@kirowompeter1706
@kirowompeter1706 Жыл бұрын
This is from different perspectives
@vitalisopel1291
@vitalisopel1291 Жыл бұрын
Initially I liked Katwenge but slowly realizing that he knows more than he knows
@tonyngari561
@tonyngari561 10 ай бұрын
Njonjo was Constitutional and Justice Minister and MP for Kabete after he resigned from AG's job(1980)
@winniesafi
@winniesafi Жыл бұрын
A history lesson , this was a great interview, this podcast inaeenda mbali 🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@wyckliffemomanyi6453
@wyckliffemomanyi6453 Жыл бұрын
Justice be served to him also
@missouriregisterednurse3897
@missouriregisterednurse3897 Жыл бұрын
Shukran mingi Mwaf for this.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@salomenewsome4188
@salomenewsome4188 Жыл бұрын
These things aren't very important but are nice to know. Planning for the future and seeing how the decisions that we make now affects generations 40 years from now is what is really necessary. The problem is that we keep electing bad leaders The suffering we are going through now is coz of moi and his government
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@wycliffepoet5201
@wycliffepoet5201 Жыл бұрын
They are important
@salomenewsome4188
@salomenewsome4188 Жыл бұрын
@@wycliffepoet5201 wazi
@LewaBenjamin
@LewaBenjamin Жыл бұрын
In Kenya if you hold any office or position thy( the military) if thy don't want you in that position thy will even switch off the electricity at KeNgen to create a black out at the airport to fire the boss of JKIA. The problem is big.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@Jitenge98
@Jitenge98 Жыл бұрын
Khwatenge’s KZbin channel is JI-TENGE
@kevinswahili1991
@kevinswahili1991 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mwaf for bringing this as per viewers requests....Santhaa sanaaa
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@ogana_M
@ogana_M Жыл бұрын
Fall from grace Njonjo’s downfall, when it came, was swift. On 1 July 1983, he announced that he was resigning his position as Minister for Constitutional Affairs. He was accused of scheming, in the company of Kenya Air Force men, to oust President Daniel arap Moi. Moi appointed a Commission of Inquiry to go into Njonjo’s affairs, and over the course of 109 days Kenyans were transfixed as a parade of witnesses opened up Njonjo’s dirty laundry for public inspection. This is an extract from a journal, THE CONVERSATIONS. So I think Hezbon is mixing up dates and some details.The Njonjo Commission of Inquiry led by Chief Justice Cecil Miller started sometime in 1983 after the coup attempt. His lawyer was Queen's Counsel Deverell assisted by Paul Muite, not Byron Georgiadis.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@vitalisopel1291
@vitalisopel1291 Жыл бұрын
He’s totally confused but he’s telling the real stuff I can see but age is catching up quickly with him,he has many gaps in his narrative
@أحمدناصر-ظ6ع9ز
@أحمدناصر-ظ6ع9ز 6 ай бұрын
You don't seem to get hezbon .investigation started way before the commission of inquiry.commission of inquiry is public but investigations to necessitate the inquiry started years before and is usually secretive and co tinges for a long period .
@franksamuel7940
@franksamuel7940 Жыл бұрын
Mwafreeka being mwafrica ... Pulling it back from the archives 🥳
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
😁😁🙏🏿🙏🏿
@emmanuelwekesa1155
@emmanuelwekesa1155 Жыл бұрын
Lazima atoe musema kweli
@downmemorylane3849
@downmemorylane3849 4 ай бұрын
According to this man this was a stage managed coup to rid out okuyus and luos who were many in military by then. Moi knew everything prior to the coup. Mchezo wa town started long time ago.
@JUSTOKIMZ
@JUSTOKIMZ Жыл бұрын
The show was lite 🔥🔥🙌 can't wait for part 2
@soloibrahim9673
@soloibrahim9673 Жыл бұрын
We need part two
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿🙏🏿
@salimthedon
@salimthedon Жыл бұрын
I love History, thank you Mwafreeka!
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@wambuaandrew9836
@wambuaandrew9836 Жыл бұрын
big up Mwafreeka kuna major wawili wametajwa hapo pia hao waletewe
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@kevinMuthami-b5t
@kevinMuthami-b5t Жыл бұрын
Just to correct Obiero on his last statement about not having a unit at Embakasi in 1982. The Airforce did have a technical unit which was started in 1978 which was basically an engineering school best known as KAFTECH based at 75KA as you head to Utawala. The first of its kind in Afrcia
@erickwafula3376
@erickwafula3376 Жыл бұрын
True
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
Will let him know
@EM2916
@EM2916 Жыл бұрын
Is that a unit he meant?
@EM2916
@EM2916 Жыл бұрын
​@@IkoNiniwaiting for part two
@lucyruto2008
@lucyruto2008 Жыл бұрын
@hyujsrloii😮😮😮😮
@onsando1
@onsando1 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I am the only one struggling to add things up. It’s 40 minutes on and weh . Or am I slow understanding Hezron?
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
Anasema hakukuwa na coup just a plan to reduce some tribes from the airforce
@stevenadogo3774
@stevenadogo3774 Жыл бұрын
Njonjo was a minister of constitution and justice
@owangh86
@owangh86 Жыл бұрын
Waah history lessons big up iko nini ...part 2
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿
@heckmanwasuna
@heckmanwasuna Жыл бұрын
You've got to give it to mwafrika, the guy is a very good listener, his listening skills are perfect. A very good interviewer too.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@beatkidd
@beatkidd 11 ай бұрын
This should be a movie
@IkoNini
@IkoNini 11 ай бұрын
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@NjengaKiongera
@NjengaKiongera Жыл бұрын
Just to correct your interviewee , coup happened on 1/8/1982 , and Njonjo enquiry started in 1983. This translates that it was after coup.
@briankurgat2770
@briankurgat2770 Жыл бұрын
Huyu anaongea na emotions sana,it seems there is some hidden pain anafeel kusema,one can never be authentic in that way
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
Getting tortured can make someone emotional I guess
@fenceevance
@fenceevance Жыл бұрын
Give us the truth commander without explaining whether its the truth or very true. We are listening 😂😂
@alexkaranja9081
@alexkaranja9081 Жыл бұрын
A very insightful episode, hiyo episode 2 tunaisubiri sana
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@irineougo2677
@irineougo2677 Жыл бұрын
Very good niko ndaaani i just had a feeling that khwatenge guy was keeping information about this coup
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
It’s only natural that the military guy would have more info
@irineougo2677
@irineougo2677 Жыл бұрын
@@IkoNini I agree 👍
@FELIXINYOTI
@FELIXINYOTI Жыл бұрын
Awesome and deep conversations
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿🙏🏿
@stevenyanaro7995
@stevenyanaro7995 8 ай бұрын
You have opened my eyes
@wangombe.w
@wangombe.w Жыл бұрын
The realest channel....Iko nini...siku moja lazima nitaingia kwenye membership 💯
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@ogana_M
@ogana_M Жыл бұрын
Njonjo was attorney General then Minister for Justice and Constitutional Affairs.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@gerryarogo1614
@gerryarogo1614 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this guy, Ochuka was flown out to his hide out in TZ, then the pilot ended up becoming Airforce commandant (Gen. Leshan)...aaaaa hio hapana bwana.🤣
@kevinMuthami-b5t
@kevinMuthami-b5t Жыл бұрын
They were commandeered, it was not a free ride.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
😬😬
@kabuthakabutha9472
@kabuthakabutha9472 Жыл бұрын
I admire hes luo accent, he hasn't changed a bit. Hes like MUGUNAX2 Acha sisi tukienda ku travel mayolo kiasi kunatudi na ku tweng 😂😂
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@johnnjoroge7985
@johnnjoroge7985 Жыл бұрын
People tweng as a result of inferiority complex, ,
@mbatiajimmy5066
@mbatiajimmy5066 Жыл бұрын
Iko Nini - can you get Odieki and James Watenge to come to your show to discuss and iron out the differences in the knowledge and opinion of the 1982 coup?
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
There’s a police special branch view and a military intelligence view so convergence on opinion itakuwa ngumu
@Bakora965
@Bakora965 Жыл бұрын
Living Intelligence unit of the past please come on board🙏 .Let the young generation be in the know. Don't go with info in the graves
@thomasmusandu2754
@thomasmusandu2754 Жыл бұрын
For whatever reason the Njonjo inquiry came after the coup. The lawyer remember clearly was not Georgiadis as mentioned but someone who came from the UK called Deverell. He was assisted by Paul Muite. Not sure who else
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@kajole8057
@kajole8057 Жыл бұрын
The lawyer was Byron georgiadis assisted by muite
@kajole8057
@kajole8057 Жыл бұрын
The njonjo enquiry was 1984-1983
@thomasmusandu2754
@thomasmusandu2754 Жыл бұрын
​​@@kajole8057Either way a mzungu from the UK called Deverell was the lead council. Just Google seen it 4:20 4:22 4:24 4:26
@stevekioi2044
@stevekioi2044 Жыл бұрын
Gichuru was immediately sent to UK for training and that meant the end of his leadership as commander
@kitukubwa438
@kitukubwa438 Жыл бұрын
This was quite informative but it was a little tough to listen to. Usually iko nini huwa ni kubanja for entertainment and any learning opportunities come as a bonus. In this case, the discussion is more serious and so clarity is needed. Mwaf, ask open ended questions and let the guy talk. That way follow up questions can be asked based on what he’s saying. Many of the questions you ask begin with “So, it means that…” rather than asking “What do you mean when you say…” or “Does this mean…”. There’s other opportunities for such kind of interviews in future and I know you will get better at these. Keep up the good effort.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@Sharikshariksharik
@Sharikshariksharik Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with him hapo kwa moi kutaka kutoa Luos na kikuyus kwa Airforce. My dad was a victim of this coz alikua engineer na they were to go abroad for further training but Moi akawarusha nje (immediaetly after the so called coup) ,aka lete wakalenjin tupu wa chukue hizo positions an opportunities were gone...manzee i could have been a british citizen bana, Moi ni mrazi...iko nini !
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@achamin1
@achamin1 Жыл бұрын
Unakumbuka ule driver Boinet, no one could fire him because he was a kalenjin. infcat he became famous fro driving while drank that every one said he drove better while hw was drunk.
@daudik8531
@daudik8531 Жыл бұрын
Interviewer ask him those special branch who were manoeuvring inside the Baracks and accessing armoury were they wearing military attire or?
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@Jitenge98
@Jitenge98 Жыл бұрын
HESBON appears to brand anybody a Maj Gen. Mulinge, Sawe, Mahmoud etc. As a military man, he should have known that Mulinge was a full General (4*) Sawe was a Lieutenant Gen (3*) and Mahmoud was a Maj Gen (2*). For a civilian to confuse, it’s okay, but a Senior NCO !
@mbatiajimmy5066
@mbatiajimmy5066 Жыл бұрын
James, why are you trying to discredit Hesbon based on a small matter of rank mix up? One can easily get ranks mixed up!! It has been over 40 years since Odiero interacted with those men for God’s sake!
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@thomasaoko8477
@thomasaoko8477 Жыл бұрын
He is a bit old now. This happened over 40 yrs ago .
@kevinMuthami-b5t
@kevinMuthami-b5t Жыл бұрын
It is common for anyone to use the term General for anyone that had hit the rank of Major or General. I know of many lieutenant colonels but when talking they are called Colonels. Nothing strange about that.
@Dennis_Okelo
@Dennis_Okelo Жыл бұрын
Omwami Lando, did you at any time torture Raila personally?
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
In 1985 regional/nepotistic disagreements between Uganda National Liberation Army Commander, General Tito Okello(Luo-Acholi) and President Milton Obote(Luo-Langi) over the promotion of Smith Acak Opon(Luo-Langi) to replace the late Gen Oyite Ojok(Luo-Langi) instead of General Bazillio Okello(Luo-Acholi) caused a coup against Milton Obote .
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
Gen Tito Okello became president(1985-86) and Gen Bazillio Olara Okello became army commander . Daniel Moi of Kenya called peace talks in Nairobi between Yoweri Museveni and Gen Tito Okello . The agreement(witnessed by Ambassador Bethwell Kiplagat of Kenya) required Gen Tito Okello to be president and Yoweri Museveni to be vice president . Gen Tito Okello proposed Harvard Trained Uganda Lawyer exiled in Kenya Ambassador Olara Otunnu(Luo-Acholi) to be president after transition to civilian rule .
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
Gen Bazillio Olara Okello proposed London based Oxford trained Urologist Dr Henry Obonyo(Luo-Acholi) to be president after military transition . THE TALKS COLLAPSED when Soldiers allied to Yoweri Museveni and led by Rwandans Paul Kagame and Fred Rwigema continued a push against Gen Tito Okello led Soldiers mostly Luo-Acholi , Luo-Langi in Uganda previously including Major Stephen Abili , Lt Col Wilson Okonga ,John Ogole and others . Yoweri Museveni deliberately sabotaged the talks with Daniel Moi in Nairobi Kenya and would thereafter maintain a strained relationship with Daniel Moi .
@miakomararo5343
@miakomararo5343 Жыл бұрын
Big up Mwaf. It's good to see the old timers have trust and respect for this podcast. Kazi Safi kaka.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
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@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
In 1979 Uganda exiles in Tanzania, Kenya led by Gen Tito Okello, Gen Bazillio Olara Okello, Gen Oyite Ojok together with Airforce Commander Major Alfred Otto, Airforce Cpt Harry Oluoch , Cpt Peter Oringi , Lt Col John Ogole , Buffalo Commander Major Eric Odwar, Cpt Oyile, Lt Okot,Lt Okumu supported by Tanzania President Julius Nyerere and Kenya VP Oginga Odinga launched a rebellion against Idi Amin through Mwanza ,Tanzania/Kisumu ,Kenya on L. Victoria restoring President Milton Obote .
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
At least 800 Uganda Luo-Langi and Luo-Acholi soldiers died in the rebellion against Idi Amin . At least 300 died in Lake Victoria when their boat from Mwanza in Tanzania and Kisumu Kenya towards Entebbe capsized . The soldiers had been trained in Uganda by Gen Bazillio Olara Okello as an Infrantry instructor at Jinja . Together with Lt Shaban Opolot ,Gen Bazillio Okello had established the 2nd Battalion in Moroto Uganda .
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
In 1971 Idi Amin staged a coup against President Milton Obote and became president of Uganda . Milton Obote had criticized the apartheid regime in South Africa and the UK government detested his position on South Africa . Britain then supported Idi Amin’s coup against Milton Obote .
@kibzshow7122
@kibzshow7122 Жыл бұрын
Njonjo Enquiry was after the coup attempt 1983/84 not before
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
I’ll ask him to clarify
@otenyop
@otenyop Жыл бұрын
​@@kibzshow7122correct it was after the 1982 attempted coup d'etat
@Leleikjl
@Leleikjl Жыл бұрын
Agree ....
@RobertVosena
@RobertVosena Жыл бұрын
From what I read somewhere, Muthemba was related to Njonjo. He was charged in 1981 for trying to overthrow the government. Njonjo was probably investigated then. This is what I believe.
@wilfredngugi2564
@wilfredngugi2564 Жыл бұрын
Njonjo was a minister for construction affairs. And to add to that in 1983 after the coup, a nasty mlolongo elections were launched purportedly to remove those who were not in the favour of Moi.
@SuperMartolo
@SuperMartolo Жыл бұрын
Bring more this, ukweli ujulikane
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿🙏🏿
@KOMANDO254
@KOMANDO254 Жыл бұрын
Khwatenge is miles clear of this guy
@vctor6768
@vctor6768 9 ай бұрын
Ji-tenge is well informed this guy is somehow cluess
@Jitenge98
@Jitenge98 Жыл бұрын
The reason why Mahmoud was in Nairobi in August 82 was because he had reached the retirement age and was in Nairobi for final clearance into civilian life.
@SP1-media
@SP1-media Жыл бұрын
Did you torture Hezbon Odiero?😂😂
@emmanuelwekesa1155
@emmanuelwekesa1155 Жыл бұрын
You have been caught in a lie Khwatenge. The other day you were busy yap yaping ati oh ukiguza Raila watu wake they become emotional,oh there's no one who called from Norway oh sijui what bullshit
@Jitenge98
@Jitenge98 Жыл бұрын
if you listen to the video carefully, HESBON is saying that RAILA IS THE LUO KING AND ALL LUOS MUST SUPPORT HIM, that explains what makarios OUMA has been doing, but denying when he is on phone with me
@wycliffepoet5201
@wycliffepoet5201 Жыл бұрын
I have heard him say Odinga family is the king but I haven't heard him say all Luis must support Odinga
@mohamedmurunga2880
@mohamedmurunga2880 Жыл бұрын
It's true that talk of a coup was in the air days before 1st Aug 82.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
😳😳
@fundikali73
@fundikali73 Жыл бұрын
Interesting addition of names to this endless plot but I thought he was refuting Khwatenge's contributions? Mwafrika please be doing a little research of the interviewees chosen subject so that your questions are more pointed and you aren't led or misled by your guest. You are very lost in this interview. But keep going Mwaf.. but more research before interviews.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
👀
@davidochieng4479
@davidochieng4479 8 ай бұрын
I love the show always that bring us to the limelight...seems like archeological past folded events history even uganda cant relate this koz it was like squid game
@franchise.licensing.institute
@franchise.licensing.institute Жыл бұрын
This gentleman, 41yrs,later has painted quite an interesting mosaic of Kenya's hidden history. Truth be told, to a critical thinker, the 1982 coup story, for some strange reason, does not make sense. For the first time, someone has introduced to us a very interesting piece of the puzzle. It is worth interrogating further. Mwaf, thank you for the courage to visit these gray area stories. Truth needs to come out.
@aquilamumo7288
@aquilamumo7288 Жыл бұрын
I saw a clip about jitenge how he tortured someone. Have you deleted the post?
@KipngetichRono11
@KipngetichRono11 Жыл бұрын
He deleted it.
@petertonny4380
@petertonny4380 Жыл бұрын
I joined KAF in 1974,attended military training at Lanet Barracks and then aircraft technical training at Eastleigh,now MAB until end of 1975.After completion was posted to KAF-NANYUKI as was then.I don't know Odiero as I learn that he served at Eastleigh and DOD.I was at KAF-NANYUKI,now LAB as the so called coup happened,was arrested,Courtmatialled at Langata Barracks and end of February 1983 released without any charge against me.Mr.Odiero has given info some which I'm aware.I want to wait for his 2rd part so that I narrate what transpired since that's where fighter jets were used to bomb strategic installations in the city.I was there.
@FreddieMatiba
@FreddieMatiba Жыл бұрын
Waiting for your version Sir...
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
Hi Sir, please reach us on 0722524151 we would love to hear your version
@petertonny4380
@petertonny4380 Жыл бұрын
I have texted info on number as provided,rgds
@wycliffepoet5201
@wycliffepoet5201 Жыл бұрын
​@@petertonny4380wonderful
@antonynyaga3304
@antonynyaga3304 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful political history
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿🙏🏿
@RobertVosena
@RobertVosena Жыл бұрын
I have personally held the same view on the 1982 coup. Moi must have been behind it so as to get absolute powers. That's possibly why Khwatenge said that Moi became president after the coup.
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
In 1969 Kenya Nationalist Tom Mboya was assassinated . In 1971 Kenya Airforce Fighter Pilot Frederick Collins Omondi Oyoo(The best trained fighter pilot in post-independence Kenya graduating top of his class in Israel and UK) together with Kenya Army Major Ndolo and Kenya Intellectuals including Makerere University Prof Ouma Muga Plotted a coup against Jomo Kenyatta . Dedan Gichuru who had graduated second to Last place in the same Airforce class as Frederick Collins Oyoo was rapidly promoted by Jomo Kenyatta later becoming the first Black Airforce Commander in post independence Kenya . In 1971 VP Oginga Odinga was placed under house arrest by Jomo Kenyatta .
@Jitenge98
@Jitenge98 Жыл бұрын
I know Mahmoud personally, I know his daughter (Mrs Duale) personally. In fact, I was to join the Airforce in February 83, only that the police came earlier in October 82.
@the_usual_suspect9437
@the_usual_suspect9437 Жыл бұрын
What does that prove or disprove?
@JoelNjane-gs3ij
@JoelNjane-gs3ij Жыл бұрын
I wish James Kanyotu would have written an autobiography b4 his demise!!
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
💯
@waihura2039
@waihura2039 Жыл бұрын
They could not have let him write it. He could could have exposed a lot. Kenyatta/Moi boys could not allow that
@iccahvernon718
@iccahvernon718 Жыл бұрын
Mwaf ameeka disclaimer ju hii si podcast ya kawaida 😅😅 anajua kinaeza mramba atii
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@wycliffepoet5201
@wycliffepoet5201 Жыл бұрын
Mwaf khwatenge is saying he's calling you and you are disconnecting the phone
@halimagichuki9069
@halimagichuki9069 Жыл бұрын
Njonjo was Minister for Constitutional Affairs
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿
@GingerBreadMan76
@GingerBreadMan76 Жыл бұрын
Njonjo was min for Constitutional Affairs. Ngoroko in 76 wanted Jeremiah Nyagah to become president after Kenyatta. Nyagah was loyal and refused. But Kenya would have been much better off had Jeremiah Nyagah become president.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
😲😲
@soloibrahim9673
@soloibrahim9673 14 күн бұрын
Wewe una jua wa Embu ama ni kisikia tu?
@blessedknjugush1983
@blessedknjugush1983 Жыл бұрын
we need both(kwhatenge) in an interview
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
Thinking the same 😁
@obuyacharles8839
@obuyacharles8839 Жыл бұрын
in kenya conspiracy takes our greater part ....😢😢😢😢😮
@evanssabali9992
@evanssabali9992 8 ай бұрын
Njonjo was the minister for constitional affairs.
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
In 1964 Kenya Airforce Daniel Owino plotted a mutiny against President Jomo Kenyatta from Lanet Barracks Nakuru Kenya . In 1964 Ugandan Luo-Langi John Gideon Okello led a revolution in Zanzibar against the Omani Arabs led by Sultan Jamshid Bin Abdullah who fled to exile in the UK . 17000 Arabs died freeing the black Bantu population from 500 years of Omani Arab subjugation . Tanganyika and Zanzibar United to become Tanzania .
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
Yoweri Museveni became president of Uganda in 1986 . Paul Kagame became head of intelligence in Uganda and moved to the US FOR MILITARY TRAINING . In 1987 a rebellion against Yoweri Museveni was launched by LRA Luo-Acholi led by JOSEPH KONY , Alice Auma Lakwena , Dominic Ongwen , Vincent Otti, Okot Odhiambo ,Raska Lukwiya ,Nixman Opuk Oryanga ,Ceaser Achellum ,Bunia Ochan,Lt Col Opiyo Sam,George Omona(Kony bodyguard) and others .
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
By 1990 Banyarwanda tutsi led by Fred Rwigema , who had been deputy defense minister in Uganda, had launched an offensive against president Juvenal Habyarimana of Rwanda, a Banyarwanda hutu . After the death of Fred Rwigema Paul Kagame returned to Rwanda and became head of Rwanda Patriotic Front, RPF (The precursor to RPF ,Rwanda Alliance for National Unity,RANU, was founded in 1979 in Nairobi Kenya by Banyarwanda tutsi exiles) .
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
Juvenal Habyarimana plane was downed in 1994 . By 1996 Paul Kagame and Yoweri Museveni supported Laurent Kabila against President Mobutu Sese Seko in Congo . Laurent Kabila was also supported by Banyarwanda tutsi in Congo(Banyamulenge) who form the bulk of M23 led by Sultani Makenga and Laurent Nkunda . Laurent Kabila became President in Congo in 1997 . Paul Kagame became president in Rwanda in 2000 .
@papd3532
@papd3532 Жыл бұрын
The International Court has opened investigative prosecution files on Yoweri Museveni and son Gen Muhoozi Kainerugaba on war crimes in Northern and Eastern Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Sudan, CAR, Chad and DRC Congo together with human rights violations in Uganda . Uganda has already paid $65million in reparations to DRC Congo out of $325million demanded by UN for destabilizing Congo and Yoweri Museveni supporting rebel groups in Eastern DRC . On 27th February 2019 Rwanda closed its borders with Uganda . In 2011 Uganda soldiers occupied Islands in the shared L Victoria with Kenya . In 1987 Daniel Moi Closed borders with Uganda for Yoweri Museveni's support of Kenya rebel cells in Kenya and Libya against Kenya .
@أحمدناصر-ظ6ع9ز
@أحمدناصر-ظ6ع9ز 6 ай бұрын
For young kenyans watching what hezbon is saying is true.
@ripvangu
@ripvangu Жыл бұрын
very iluminating
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
💯
@fundikali73
@fundikali73 Жыл бұрын
Mr Hezbon, according to court records petitioned the government in 2012 for unfair arrest and imprisonment in 1982 and was awarded 5m? Judgement made in Kisumu on 28th January 2016 by Justice E.N. Maina. Was this money paid and what is the reason for his continued stay in Norway?
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
He talks about it in part 2
@mbatiajimmy5066
@mbatiajimmy5066 Жыл бұрын
Norway is actually the best country to live in the world. It’s gorgeous mountains, Fjords, undersea road network, public safety, various provisions by the government - such as two vacations fully funded by the government per year to any destination in the world, free education, free health care, a wide variety of social amenities, a very reliable public transportation network - buses and trains, etc beats living in Kenya hands down! There is no political drama in Norway and the people are equally nice! Norway is also oil rich and the country puts all its oil money into a trust fund which is well managed - the country is corruption free! Alcohol is very expensive in Norway if you like to waste your life drinking there! No homelessness in Norway! So, you can now understand why Odiero won’t want to return to Kenya!
@jamesmutua5873
@jamesmutua5873 Жыл бұрын
This man doesn't really know exactly what transpire on Jomo Kenyatta's death. When Kenyatta died in Mombasa technically the Chief of Staff is the one who calls the shots, so for this man to talk of Airforce Commander excluding Gen. Mulinge is a big lie. Gen. Mulinge is the one who called the cabinet and ordered Njonjo to read the Constitution what it says in such circumstances, and that is how Moi took over for 90 days before an election. What was the Britich High Commissioner doing about this issue???
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
The question would be why did he lie?
@kijanayaaput8940
@kijanayaaput8940 Жыл бұрын
Story imechacha hapa. Iko Nini asante kwa kupatiana chance ilitupate hizo mastory.
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿🙏🏿
@Samsonngugi-q6z
@Samsonngugi-q6z Жыл бұрын
When did a mere clerk in the military become an investigator of serious government matters. Some of us have also been there for long.
@rhymeskartel5417
@rhymeskartel5417 Жыл бұрын
What hurts me most is that they blamed the odinga family for the coup
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
👀
@jasongalo6798
@jasongalo6798 Жыл бұрын
Hii inabamba👍
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿🙏🏿
@dennohtobby
@dennohtobby Жыл бұрын
Am a former Kenya airforce guy, I need asylum coz I feel my life is at stake
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
Stay safe out there
@dennohtobby
@dennohtobby Жыл бұрын
Ogolla is a puppet. I worked with him as a deputy airforce commander
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
Which Ogola? Present head of defence forces?
@dennohtobby
@dennohtobby Жыл бұрын
The current fuckin CDF.
@dennohtobby
@dennohtobby Жыл бұрын
Man am not simping but that guy is like a device controlled by a remote. You know what, fuck him
@SP1-media
@SP1-media Жыл бұрын
​@@dennohtobbypuppet for who?
@mansurvictor5620
@mansurvictor5620 11 ай бұрын
Njonjo,James Gichuru,mbiyu koinange and moi belonged to a fraternity I would not mention . The reason Moi respected njonjo was probably some degrees senior to Moi..
@IkoNini
@IkoNini 11 ай бұрын
😲😲
@hommerhworld9007
@hommerhworld9007 Жыл бұрын
Kenya nchi ya wakora😂😂😂
@IkoNini
@IkoNini Жыл бұрын
💯
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