EP#28 | If a Computer Had a Brain, How Big Would it Be? (Hong Kong, Fabricating Life & AI Research)

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As the landscape of AI research continues to evolve, questions regarding creating life itself are asked. Also, the situation in Hong Kong is an important case-study of personal freedoms in the 21st century. In this episode, Sam, Niko, Jake & Wren discuss the above and also ask the most important question: what part of a computer is the lungs?
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[@theloserlose]

As a Hong Kong citizen, thank you for addressing the situation in Hong Kong! I really appreciate it!

[@KFChocobo]

Were the beers paid for by the Guillotine Channel??

[@thezodiacsyndicate]

Jason Chan Asking the real questions

[@sammysquare6653]

Surely

[@13renschi]

yeah i thougth jake would say that the guillotine channel is todays sponsor

[@mr.jerboa8528]

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[@AdmireRoxtars]

The best Corridor Cast episodes consist of Niko, Wren, Sam and Jake talking about world politics and technology. Keep it up.

[@kachunko6532]

I'm a long-time listener of this channel from Hong Kong. Thanks for the support and your attention. We will fight till the end. STAND WITH HONG KONG🇭🇰🇭🇰

[@tomazwang]

pray for Hong Kong, thanks for noticing this event happens on the other side of the world.

[@nathanquinter8141]

What more could we do? Freedom is a delicate balance. So why don't the people of Hong Kong move to another country, where they can practice their way of life? It seems to me like Hong Kong wishes it could stay sovereign nation forever.

[@DMIwriter]

51:00 Thanks Sam for bringing that up! I'm American, but I lived in Iceland for over 2 years and plan on moving there permanently in the next year or two, and property issues are a big deal over there. Property is already incredibly expensive there, comparable to living in the heart of DC or LA. Most people don't own because they can't afford to, they just rent. It's not uncommon for a entire family to share a house or to live with your parents well into your 30s for financial reasons. They've been building more housing, but all the cheap housing is almost immediately bought up by savvy entrepreneurial types who can afford the investment, and turned to AirBnBs for tourists. And it's not just in Reykjavík. I remember being out in the countryside of southern Iceland and seeing a cozy little farmhouse out in the distance, a good 2 hour drive from any sizable town. Turns out it was a AirBnB. So you have a lot of property set aside that often is never even lived in by an Icelander because it's all going to tourism. Tourism has been great for their economy ever since the 2008 economic collapse, it really helped get Iceland back on their feet and has been overall a very good thing for them, but it's had its consequences as well. It's even been getting to a point where the infrastructure is having a hard time keeping up with the tourism growth. All the little rest stops on the Golden Circle, for example, often have ridiculous bathroom lines and food shortages. And I'm sure it's not just Iceland. I'm sure this is a big problem for any big city with a lot of travel going through it, or any tourist hotspots.

[@Lifelight_]

Nothing like a new Corridor Cast episode after a long day of work and study, thanks guys!

[@NapKingCole84]

Knowing these will never be as popular as your videos, I hope you keep making them. It's fun listening to everyone shoot the...poop and talk about random kinda nerdy things. And obviously everyone here likes each other and are friends, so that helps and shows too haha.

[@neenaw]

Really happy you guys have given some exposure to what's happening in Hong Kong, proud of you bois.

[@johnduncan4287]

Hey just FINALLY finished watching #27 and went to my home screen and saw #28 was just released! What a pleasant surprise. Love you guys

[@larryjohnson150]

I just found the Corridor Crew channel a few weeks ago from the VFX artists react videos and proceeded to watch about a million and ten of those videos then went over to the Corridor channel and started watching those then in one of the corridor crew videos i watched i found out you had this channel. I know that's a long ass story but i really enjoy your guys content and if you ever need some input from a professional gunsmith let me know!

[@corridorcast]

Glad that you're here! Welcome!

[@Darkarai28]

Thank you guys for talking about Hong Kong and spreading awareness. As a HK local, seeing other countries talk about it and knowing the real reasons why we care so deeply about this situation is really nice to see. The police brutality is getting worse here and the government seems to be siding with the police going as far as to give false information about the injuries caused to the protesters as well as protecting officers that blatantly ignore the law and fail to show warrant cards or any identification at all... I could go on but just wanted to thank you guys for talking about it

[@MaylorTaylor]

Love this new format! Love seeing all four humans AND the computer screen they are looking at. Really helps understand what the are reacting to

[@khippolytewade]

Halfway through the podcast, when you guys were talking about robots having emotion it reminded me about an article that I read about a year or two ago in. Which they talked about how some robots in Star Wars were programmed with pain receptors and thud could be tortured.

[@troglodyte6005]

There’s no podcast better than this. Ik your schedules are packed, but I need more!!

[@OrvenToaster]

Yes! New Corridor Cast! I've been waiting for new ones for so long.

[@zbasin20]

Jake always sounds so out of place on these. Like he is from a different podcast and walked into the wrong studio. Love watching these and really enjoy getting to hear these conversations.

[@Brackenwall]

Now I want to know what's going on with Node (Wren mentions something at the start but Jake changes subject)

[@itsgoik]

Tony Lloyd draaaaaama lol

[@mac_and_me]

They have become one entity, it's on their twitter but there aren't details past Node's tweet yet

[@abanoubfidal7036]

Thank you for implementing introductions. So much better for when I’m listening with audio only

[@pooniverse]

I was very surprised you guys mention about what's happening in HK when the new episode is up. I grew up in HK and rn living on the other side of the world. There is nothing I can really do to but to spread awareness on different platform since the protests happens back in June. It's nice to hear people to mention what's going on there, and your thoughts on.

[@Cinegavo]

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[@danielvestergaard1692]

The problem with the AI discussion is that AI, and it's capabilities, often gets overrated or misunderstood. AI is bound by it being digital, and therefore logical. While logicality is also a part of how the human mind works, a large part of the decisions we humans take are not. The reason we are able to write literature, paint, make movies and create things that have never existed before is that we are able to approach things non logically as well as logically. A great example of how humans differs from computers and AI as we know it is the self driving car. The traffic system is a system designed by humans and made to be logical, this means it is something the computer is great at, however we still do not have self driving cars. This is because, even though the traffic system is logical, the humans in it are not, if it wasn't for human drivers and pedestrians we would have had self driving cars many years ago. we don't, and that's because a computer has trouble navigating correctly in a non logical environment. In other words it has a hard time understanding something that is neither zero or one, true or false but instead has multiple equally correct answers and no way of telling the best answer using logic (in design terms a wicked problem). Likewise an AI can't determine great content from bad content the way a human can, and more data does not help this, this is because while some qualities of ex. KZbin videos are quantifiable and logical, not all are. What Google is doing right now is applying AI to a nonlogical problem, and while it works somewhat it is the equivalent of a gaffataped rowing boat, just sticking together for now. They are trying to do something that goes against the capabilities of the tools they are using. We humans decide and design our future, and a computer can't do that, it can help, but not everything gets better or is even possible with big data and digital AI. Love all the channels btw just had to write something to the AI discussion (even I no-one wants to read this much)

[@Hacker_lyx]

I've been a long time watcher of Corridor. But I dropped off about 4 years ago. Just came back and have been binge watching the Crew channel and this one.

[@Willowello]

Not to do down other episodes, but i liked this one the most! also Jake your hair is nice!

[@kasellaacain9947]

Love these podcasts so much! Please never stop making them.

[@bradleyharkness6206]

Loving it guys, can’t wait to have a couple scotches listening to this podcast

[@reeferbeard5140]

Definitely in for a treat, 30 some odd more episodes!!

[@Stepski23]

What's happening with Node?

[@ceic02120]

Really good episode

[@Drugfreeforsatan]

Why is this not the forum to talk about Node? I thought you were bringing them into the Corridor family, it seems like the perfect opportunity to discuss what that means for the channel

[@SirWrender]

To early yo

[@Drugfreeforsatan]

@@SirWrender appreciate the reply

[@TheStarBlack]

I don't understand how Node isn't already part of corridor. I mean they're just next door and Sam and Niko seem to be in charge there too.

[@Drugfreeforsatan]

Based on their Instagram post I feel like we will see a transition like we did from the Sam and Niko channel to Corridor Crew, with more familiar Corridor faces making appearances, maybe even a rebran to Corridor gaming.

[@UyeGaming]

@@TheStarBlack If I remember correctly, Node started a LONG time ago as a Multimedia Gaming channel. They used to do trailer mashups and "tagged" video gaming clips with other creators. Maybe now that contract is clear so they can now take full ownership? Just my guess on the last part.

[@SHKABAM]

Was literally cherry picking past Corridor Cat episodes and this just came up. Much happy lol.

[@iota-09]

Honored? This is quality content! It's literally the only podcast i follow

[@waltermb]

love the podcast as much as the regular vids. could listen to the alien and AI stuff for hours tbh

[@TJCooney]

okay this conversation went places i wasnt expecting but i love it

[@brittboss4922]

Something that I would expect to see the robot tail being used for is paraplegic rehab. For people who have injured their spine or something and become paraplegic and want to walk again could use this robotic limb to give them more stability and balance, and probably speeding up their recovery

[@SeeJaneGoTV]

Great podcast guys. What's going on with Node. You guys talked about it in the beginning but didn't want to say much about it. Hopefully you can elaborate in the next episode. Could you guys get D on the show?

[@MrSkinnyWhale]

This was an awesome podcast, great topics and discussion, liked and subbed.

[@kyrios2773]

Been watching corridor for years just found the podcast. So god damn entertaining thanks guys

[@MechanizedMinionMTG]

that opensource robot dog is done by James Bruton

[@superfunbun1]

Wren and Niko's (Quick and dirty) explanation of Hawking Radiation is not too bad (Source: I have a Degree in Astrophysics)

[@superfunbun1]

Though I want to add that Hawking Radiation has not been observed coming out of a black hole, yet.

[@FilmFormStudios]

Only real OG’s remember Podcast28 PodcastStoryBlocks

[@octabunge]

He wrote about it first, then we saw it, that's how good a physicist he was!

[@benjieaguilerabrown3347]

So good! Never stop!!!

[@TalkThisOut]

love yall boys much love from the Dominican Republic

[@Dragonlacross10]

Is there a schedule for when these podcast are made? Or is it just random?

[@highlandoutsider]

It would be interesting to see someone rock climbing with the tail since counter balancing is pretty important

[@TrevonTheoriesInc]

Hey guys, I love the podcasts, I've watched all of them. With the scriptures, I know fundamentalists say it was 7 days, but the bible uses days as a period of time in the first and second chapter. Science doesnt really conflict with the bible. I haven't seen any proven science that conflicts with the bible. Just the theoretical ones like evolution. Again, love your podcasts man! Really awesome, dont stop!

[@Axelsanx]

There was some movie that had a robotic mule in the movie Young Ones. They wanted to use a Boston Dynamics Big Dog but ended up using people.

[@ReplicateReality]

I don’t think anything surprising can even happen anymore, even if it was unexpected it still won’t be a surprise

[@Johnny-Joseph]

Oh no, Node better not be going anywhere. I already had that panic attack when you guys took it over

[@MioClud]

please make these longer :)

[@axline2328]

Good job guys ! I learned so much from that podcast.

[@betlogboy3]

Yeah. I was aLways hoping the cast wouLd be where you guys chiLLed and had your weekend craft beers.

[@HVM_fi]

"Negatron" also know as, you know; -electron.... lolololo ; )

[@piandpower]

I think he meant the super partner of electron? Anti electron, selectron? Not sure tho

[@Rook-Sensei]

Isn't there already an AI that has citizenship in some part of the world. Sophia: "On October 25, at the Future Investment Summit in Riyadh, the robot was granted Saudi Arabian citizenship, becoming the first robot ever to have a nationality." Also i'm seeing a full metal alchemist vibe coming from the creating life talk.

[@nathanquinter8141]

Thankyou to Corridor for letting us into their minds, and discussing the things I wish my friends could talk about, but they're all Chinese, and I'm now aware of the continuing algorithyms that are plaguing and taming history.

[@Snice4rn]

Nice cast! :)

[@ScardiMard]

Glad I found this

[@roachmasta189]

hell yeah guys do more podcasts!

[@MrSmellyPotato]

Thank you for noticing what is happening in Hong Kong

[@not_your_typical_guy]

I personally research about all of your amazing channels because i like you guys i learn a lot from watching you because you guys have different talents but one thing i know for sure you guys love Nerf guns. I believe your channels are corridor crew, corridor digital, corridor cast, node is there anything else please tell me so that i can subscribe

[@jacobdykstra7270]

Gilloutine channel

[@not_your_typical_guy]

@@jacobdykstra7270 thank you Jacob 😁

[@corymartin1162]

Niko read this. At 39:00 Area you talk about the random chance of life happening over a billion years, but the most plausible theory is that the cell had been carried to earth on a comet and thrived in its conditions. I think its very unlikely the universal accident of life happened on earth. Seems logical that we were just pioneered here on accident a few billion years ago as some single called organisms.

[@neos_02]

Yes yes yes, another one❤ hi from Europe.

[@rqrz3920]

Next Podcast Idea: Andrew Yang and his ideas of universal basic income

[@UyeGaming]

Could you guys do a Node Podcast?

[@8milestreet]

i live for this podcast

[@lukkuss-old]

airbnb is being outlawed in all of hawaii for the reason that sam said: that companies are buying out large amounts of land and using airbnb to rent it out and is/was ruining the economy in hawaii.

[@Wagamolad]

I want a podcast of Sam just rolling out weird idea after weird idea. Or just him screaming is good too.

[@Critters]

The open dog they spoke of @12:40 is made by James Bruton: kzbin.info

[@macbaler]

Softbank is a Japanese conglomerate company, known in Japan for being one of their major phone carriers.

[@adambetts4957]

dis a good podcerst fellas lisin 2 et

[@D0S81]

16:33 Niko ''there's no such thing as a viral video anymore'' Not long after Bostown dynamics 2 ''did you say something Niko?''

[@dustymar4341]

I think the one thing you guys forget to realize is your presuppositions in the start of your conversations. Like when Jake ask the question "is that it?" in reference to sam saying the earth is about 4billion years old. Also with accordance with the 2nd law of thermo-dynamics which is the degeneration of isolated systems go into a disorder state how old should the earth be? .I would like to see how you guys would explain good and evil. this topic would be awesome.

[@scrythis1]

@32:47 my question is why do we feel hurt when we destroy for example, rock formations? when we destroy things where nature has spent millennia putting naturally into balance, it has an effect upon us. there is something inside of us that yes, there is somehow something about entropy involved. i think that everything has somehow consciousness. for example, the sri vaishnava philosophy that everything is within God and God is within everything. Om Namo Narayanaya is somehow true. like, there is inherent truth and consciousness even in the smallest of things. I think that something in our deepest feelings resonates with that truth. So i think both answers would be correct. we enjoy all things and value all things because of their inherent connection in creation itself. everything has consciousness. but we also have the instinct to be united with one another because it is more in alignment with that truth. this can be attributed to both, yes, it benefits us materially and spiritually/emotionally. when science merges with spirituality, i believe it reveal this to be true.

[@daphuulztha5856]

What these guys have 3 other channels?

[@pcplayer9613]

*Before reading this, please understand that I am only making this argument/discussion point regarding the discussion of science and religion in the podcast (also please recognize that my argument is my words, and not directly those of the Catholic Church)* Regarding your discussion about how the Church describes and considers the origins of life, Niko was along the right track. When considering the biblical idea of the origins of life, one must also consider the form of the text they are reading. The bible is not one big historical narrative, but many different stories written many different ways, some historical, some poetical, some in one sense mythical (not mythical in the sense of fictional explanations of the world, like the ancient Greek myths, but of religious and symbolical narratives of Creation and God's interaction with humans that may not necessarily have happened exactly as is described in writing), which were later compiled into one book. It should also be considered that not too long ago Theology and Philosophy were also considered sciences in their own right, and only "modern" definitions changed them to being considered arts. Theological ideas and symbols of creation neither contradict nor are they contradicted by science, for they are not on the same field or plane of study. The story of Creation in the Bible is not a historical narrative, but a symbolical and religious one, realms outside of scientific explanation, and therefore unaffected by scientific discoveries of the origin of the universe. They are two different narratives, told in two different ways, to understand the same thing, the origin of the universe, and thus if science says that it all started with a big bang, and religion says that God willed everything into existence, neither is shown to be disproved, as they do not contradict each other. Also, does anyone else find the fact that before I present an argument I have to make sure that I place an explanation of what I am doing so as to make sure no one is offended or misinterprets my point somewhat ridiculous? Someone might even take offense to this paragraph. Gone now are the days when you could simply make an argument and discuss it with people without them immediately taking offense and thinking you are attacking them. I wish we could become a world were I could simply begin a discussion with someone out of the blue without them thinking I'm trying to persuade them to think how I do or forcing my ideas and opinions on them. Let's try to work for a better world people. Stay Awesome Corridor Crew! Stay Awesome Everyone!

[@lingu7733]

Wrong place for this dialogue bud

[@lingu7733]

No offense but I can assure you no one has ever read this comment in its entirety including the people who liked it

[@aoshaw]

Did you ever hear the tragedy of podcast 28 podcast story blocks? I thought not, it's not a story the title would tell you...

[@TROD..]

Anyone know the laptop Jake is using ?

[@xNOTX3x]

The podcast intro was soo loud on 50% Volume i was like WTH and the Audio cut the Wushh was soo loud that the Audio of half of the Wushh cut out

[@kylejennings819]

i like the old title more haha What part of the computer is the lungs

[@stephenpender5298]

Look at Twitter's tweets they just said there changing copyright rules.things like passing cars and music for a small period can't be copyrighted.apperently

[@gregorysech7981]

There is kind of a parallel between WW2 development of rocket engines kickstarting the space race and what is happening now with the mentioned AI race.

[@drewmileham202]

Our brain can hold much more information than a computer so a computers brain would be smaller than ours

[@VonKripple]

more podcasts!

[@danielshearer4336]

Excited for beer and words.

[@spartanjoshua2582]

Corridor today is the day the package should be arriving at you company please tell if and when

[@TeddyWalla]

get rid of the ads from the browser page you put on the screen

[@westingtyler1]

10:40 these tails would REALLY help steadicam operators who have to move all weird and not trip.

[@skate4blazers503]

Omg I was at that game! Go UP!

[@CollectiveFX]

Hey Jake, pull that up.

[@AbstruseDesign]

25:50 Sam defends living in the matrix.

[@Louw1990]

I am a biologist, so I know that there are indeed projects which aim to generate artificial cells. Actually, I think in our building s.t. like this is done. But this is completely legal and supported and funded by research funding societies. But it is a very long way before a cell is made completely artificially. What is done at the moment is to generate membrane systems which resemble a cell. But then you still need the DNA and other parts of the cells to get a functioning cell. To get a working genome you could take the DNA from an existing organism and put it into your artificial cell. However, this cell would be the same cell as an existing cell and is also not completely artificial, I think. If you want to have this cell completely artificial you need to generate the DNA completely on your own without taking it from other cells, right? And this is super hard. The smallest genome of a bacterium is about 600000 base pairs and codes for 482 proteins. But you not only have gene after gene in the genome but lots of factors which allow genes to be transcribed only under certain circumstances. Furthermore, there are lots of control mechanisms that you don't have too many or too less copies of this protein. To my knowledge, it is, for now, impossible to generate a genome that balances itself in the production of proteins. What is also done is to generate cells in silico. This means, that you try to recreate a cell with a computer algorithm. To test this you feed your computer cell with some substances in form of data which they can "metabolize" and check whether this cell produces the same "metabolites" in the same amount as a real living cell. This is also done with Deep Learning I think. But this is all done with bacteria. If you want to go to mammalian cells, this gets even more complicated. You have all the different organelles and stuff. The human DNA for example only codes to 1.5% for proteins. The rest are introns or sequences originating from viruses. But lots of these sequences are regulatory elements. And this is not fully understood. I could go on forever but these are my insights into artificial cell generation. If you have any further questions, let me know. And by the way, very nice podcast :o)

[@laurenhuntington4081]

Talking about AI and the production and life of AI, you guys should check out the game Detroit Become Human. It takes on this whole subject and AI becoming a new conscious life form.

[@StophD]

Niko is such a cool guy. I'm not a star fucker of any sort, but I'd love to chill out with Niko and have a beer

[@AkshaySahu]

Guys read about situation of India regarding CAA and NRC. People are protesting in huge numbers against the government.

[@SSErwin]

love these

[@TheMrSjenkie]

Corridor for President

[@RobRoskey]

@SirWrender would've tasted a finger tip full of Jake's hot boot sweat before he poured it out lol. ... 'wait wait wait... *Tastes* "EEWWWW!"' LOL

[@itsgoik]

Did the guillotine pay for that beer?

[@Neroland]

Yay! I'm the first to watch 😂 Keep up the good work guys! All the way from South Africa

[@piandpower]

See JCVI synthetic life. The current biotech industry goal is 10Mb in under an hour for under $100.