Ep.3: Cutting the Body Shape and Routing Cavities - The 9 Hour Build

[@Joeobrown1]

the voiceover isn't annoying us, makes it far more entertaining

[@cameroncrowley1226]

I really like the voice overs actually.

[@christophesegalen1023]

It's like being in your shop a talking to yourself, very immersive indeed.

[@chucknowakowski6676]

I imagine Ben, sitting on a throne, with a big old sweater on, pipe in hand, glass of scotch in other, watching and voice overing this.......

[@gramursowanfaborden5820]

that big red leather chair they have

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

Not quite that regal.. He actually did these sat in his van with his laptop and microphone; the only place away from background machine noise he could find! Couldn't comment on the scotch and/or pipe - I'll go and spy on him tomorrow and get back to you.

[@Saitir942]

I've said it before and will again... I could watch Ben using a bandsaw all day... Bizarrely relaxing watching him at work.

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+Saitir thank you :)

[@pmcm-ih1ep]

The propeller made from a bit of masking tape around the router bit to blow the dust away is the luthier hack of of the decade. It's ingenious.

[@wolflahti412]

I tend to keep *all* my scrap cutoffs, and my shop looks it. I'm sure I'll find a use for this 1/2-by-2-by-1/4-inch piece of pine some day.

[@jtyoung706]

The voiceover talking to ben is awesome ! It's like being in his head while he works.

[@guyvaderproductions8882]

I too like the voice over, with a little non-voice over. It adds comedy! I like the part where you're trying to get the template off the body and the voice over says "you fool!". LOL

[@GediSpock]

You could do that for a living you know Ben. Look into it mate. 👊😂 Thanks for sharing all your knowledge over the years brother. It’s great having your videos at hand. Thanks very much. 🙏

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

Made me look!!! Cheers GediSpock, and it is my pleasure. I love what I do and am just happy some other people do too! B

[@keithwallis9799]

That wood looks bee-you-tiful. Oh, and keep the commentary flowing - very entertaining

[@aubiejazz]

Ben, you are a brave guy. I would be wearing safety glasses on the drill press with those wood chips flying.

[@UBRLND-X]

I am enjoying the narrator speaking to the luthier (who are one ine the same)... immensely. should that frighten me? well yes, and it does. lol fantastic demo as usual, Ben.

[@Tim_Duran]

47 minutes: my god that grain... 😳 Stunningly beautiful...

[@maryfaithsnyder3929]

Voice over is great! Not annoying. Sapele is gorgeous.

[@Mulgy]

The voice over is very weird and utterly brilliant! Please do it at every opportunity :)

[@EricChesek]

Bring on the next episode! After watching the 24 hr build and the 12 hr build I'm interested to see how much you can squeeze out of this one. Great stuff.

[@walmars3curity]

The 9 Hour Build is by far my favorite series by Crimson Guitars.

[@heylookitsn0ah]

I honestly am going to watch this whole series just for the voiceover. It’s an art, it really is.

[@ramaroodle]

Who or why would you give this a thumbs down??? And how did you know I would be binge watching this?

[@r.miller4810]

I think it's great how Voiceover Ben admonishes guitar builder Ben. Ben has an overlord.. it's Ben. lol

[@tomandolin9623]

I think with the other half of the slab you can still make a guitar, if you cut off a portion at the back (As you did with the Sigil).Also I'm pretty sure that the body of the Jolana star IV would fit there.

[@9thdeltaconcepts652]

Well thought out revisions for this series. Looking forward to rest of the episodes as well as the "19hour" build.

[@RyuzakuDogame]

I think the voice over comments about talking to you in the video are funny and I want more of them

[@wottles4495]

42: The answer to all and everything (Hitchhikers guide throuh the galaxy)

[@timbeaton5045]

That sapele is going to look STUNNING!. You could just see the pattern popping even as you roughly planed the headstock, in episode 2.Shame there is only enough for one guitar body. Would just love to buy this, but I am afraid it will be beyond the reach of my wallet, sadly.

[@timbeaton5045]

and now the quilt emerges even more strongly at 47:10.Going to be a killer instrument. Assuming nothing goes wrong in the build! (we have faith in you!)

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+Tim Beaton I have a second piece for the 90 hour build prettier twin sister but that is the lot.. The temptation to keep these for myself almost inside me though, so so pretty!

[@Markle2k]

Clever editors, putting the discovery of the meaning of life, etc. almost exactly at the 42 minute mark.

[@MrFengen]

42 is the answer to the ultimate question..

[@robinaldred9070]

Hi Ben. Instead of white spirit when de-greasing timber, try meths. It dries MUCH faster, and you can actually see the result. Good effort!

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+Robin Aldred cool, thanks for the tip.

[@alamosabill201]

I love watching the routing, must be very fulfilling, essentially, fun times. 😉

[@Scion4600]

Question: how do you determine pickup locations? Like, if I were to build a strat style guitar, but I wanted a 24 fret neck, it would alter the pickup locations, wouldn't it? What would that position shift do to the tone of that pickup? How close can the pickup get to the fretboard end without causing trouble? Love the 12 and 9 hour builds, can't wait to see the hand tools build!

[@BravoColl]

AAAAHHHH! Where's part 4, 5, 6 etc.? I'm binge watching this while stuck at home recovering from a kinda major operation, and I thought I was set for another few hours at least! D'oh. I'll Just need to set some notifications up. Cheers as always though Ben and everyone else at Crimson, this is awesome, voiceover and all!

[@esa062]

I use that neck angle trick too. Best inventions are simple. I wondered when you will start adding complexity :-)

[@petercrossley6667]

What beautiful wood

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

Isn't it just? The same timber I used for the subsequent Conplication Guitar Build.. B

[@TheMaximpaton]

I like the voice over.

[@merlinsphoenix]

loving the voice-over ^-^

[@MarcJennings]

Pro tip : Don't let the draw strings of your hoodie dangle anywhere near the router table!!! Naughty Ben!

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+Marc Jennings sorry sir :(

[@JakeAikens]

See, now I have to buy a bigger plane. Damn it. Lol

[@thomasmoon4219]

ah the answer to life, the universe and everything

[@robinrepitsch1382]

is it possible to do a detailed description of the end grain problem your are always talking about.?

[@timbeaton5045]

Nice Burnisher!

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+Tim Beaton I am so blessed to have fans who make tools of this caliber for me, my habit needs feeding! :)

[@Keith_KC8TCQ]

I've called coworkers much worse than dingleberry, One place I worked I was a shift supervisor, turnover was bad and it got to the point that I never bothered trying to remember anyone's name, I just gave everyone nicknames. Flyspeck, Crackhead, Lurch, Bonehead, 30 years later I'll see them around town and talk to them, and I can still remember their nicknames, but not their actual names.

[@timbeaton5045]

maybe a Mini-Torial on sharpening/general upkeep of router bits?

[@timbeaton5045]

re 37:14

[@aaronsargent9525]

I really wish I could create as well as you. I do have one suggestion though. Have you thought about using a longer lasting material for your templates, such as corian or something similar? The edges of your templates are quite rough in closeups.

[@MikeB-vj3qy]

Idea for leftover chunk of wood that wouldn't make another guitar body, but only just: 3/4 or so scale solid body in the shape of a parlor style acoustic. Shortened scale. One P-90 in the bridge and an undersaddle piezo pickup. Call it the Crimson Custom Parlor. Or something. And mail me one.

[@MikeB-vj3qy]

unless its already been turned into hammer handles.

[@MrRobertRumbustiere]

I couldn't help but think that the cut out from the body wood could have been used to build a 'Dan Electro Longhorn' type instrument.

[@Tim_Duran]

Oh and the voice-over: Keep it, it's interesting and sometimes hilarious. 😄

[@JoeThornhill]

At 15:46 when you say sand, surely you mean route.

[@Tuxman25]

I'd always pull that power plug before changing router tools, out of sheer paranoia.

[@JohnB1956]

I would like to see Mr Crow go back 250 years and build an instrument without electricity.

[@7stgtpetrucci]

43:23 Nice Intervals T-shirt!

[@Mikeyprs21]

I find the voice over, rather funny personally ahaha! :P

[@supareelsmusic9415]

I think you need to have a word with your workshop manager drills? maintenance of WYFII come on!! maybe a little harsh, but I've watched you on YT since you started and standards need to be kept up ... That said ...great work (as usual ) stay well Spak

[@camerontgore]

Novice question here. Is using the planer the only way to get the wood to pop like that or can it be done with sanding?

[@tyler_bt3326]

Do you think anyone has ever thought of a Bandsaw crossed with a router. So, the blade has a smooth flat part that won't cut towards the top ( like the the bearing on a router) that can run along the template and cut the shape almost exactly. And you can adjust the height of the blade accordingly so you can have any thickness of wood and not cut the templates. Let me know what you think!

[@markedone6667]

There is no point in doing that, because a bandsawblade will always leave marks and wont cut precise enough so that the extra cost for the more complexe manufacturing of such a blade can be justified. Also i guess it would leave burnmarks where it rides along.

[@gramursowanfaborden5820]

that'd be impossible with a bandsaw due to their very nature.

[@Keith_KC8TCQ]

need to go back and do voiceovers for all the longer builds, Quite entertaining

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

thank you.. B

[@seanbova]

I think 42 might be the over/under on how many minutes past deadline LOL joking aside, it's looking great Ben

[@davesguitar7528]

Who makes a quality Foresner bit

[@walterrider9600]

thank you Ben . question or observation if you will why don't you get a dumb waiter to run stuff up and down . seems like it would be safer on you . hands won't be full as you run up and down the stairs . just put a small lift to send up and down the gear you need to work on in ?

[@demantoid418]

Will ya be doing voice overs all the time now? I think I like it. Yeah. I think I do.

[@micmacnz]

Hi Ben , Are you still doing the 90 hour build?

[@JiltedMonkey]

Goggles man!!! They're no good on top of your head!!!!

[@StonedMoses]

Don't you offer that Radion template router in your shop? At least I can't find it...

[@jawsykilla]

Can someone explain to me exactly why Ben was planing the neck pocket side at an angle using the plywood to create the angle? Is it for the neck break angle? The ply is the same height as tune-o-matic? Great video and series btw :D

[@gramursowanfaborden5820]

that's exactly it.

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+JordyNorm the ply is 9mm thick, I want the strings to be 17mm or so high. Add 9mm to the 7mm that the fretboard will be plus frets and action and we get to around 17..a really cool trick figured out by our luthier Tom March.

[@jawsykilla]

Crimson Custom Guitars Thanks but I still don't understand how the 9mm of the bridge is added onto the 7mm of the fretboard because the fretboard floats above the top so the thickness is negated surely? I'm probably just being thick. Where exactly is the 17mm being measured between? By the way I'm not refuting it, I just want to understand because it's some beautiful geometry if it all adds up.

[@Furiora]

I just wondered, if Ben or anyone can answer for me that would be wonderful. The wood for this seemed so dull and lifeless when cut with the saw, router or was sanded, yet the grain sprung to life like it was oiled when cut with the plane. Can anyone explain this? is it just the sawdust occering though the other methods or something to do with the nateral oils in the wood? a combination of both?

[@BuildEnvironmentTV]

Basically it's because a plane is a single super thin and super sharp cutting edge so it removes wood by shaving it off and literally cutting fibers perfectly cleanly and flat. It leaves behind a VERY smooth surface that reflects light well, so it looks bright and lively. Unless it's really oily wood it won't look shiny, but it's enough. Sanding is an abrasive process that removes wood by rubbing it away with small, sharp rocks. It leaves behind grooves and those grooves create incredibly small shadows and odd angles so it's not very reflective. Sawing is even rougher and tears wood apart. The surface does get dust and oils and general grossness, maybe even sunstruck so exposing the surface under it might look like brighter colored wood, but it won't be as lively if you sanded it rather than planed it.

[@Furiora]

Build Environment TV That was very informative. Thank you for taking the time to answer.

[@markwright9352]

Hi are you going to start kiln drying your own wood at some point??

[@wombat6]

This barely has anything to do directly with this build, but for whatever reason I'm kind of curious what the yearly expense for masking tape at Crimson Guitars is.

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+Cramel too much, far too much! Lol. I buy it in packs of 24 rolls and it generally lasts about 6 weeks.. I'll leave the math to you guys, I'm knackered!

[@Nikel87]

According to Amazon prices you spend roughly between £200 and £900 a year on tape. Bigger packages is Cheaper. Now you should find out what to do with the small roll that's left when the tape is out. On Pinterest someone have made small Jewelry boxes with the leftovers. sophie-world.com/crafts/diy-duct-tape-jewelry-box-part-one I really should go to bed now.

[@Bizman62]

"Let me know in the comments how much the voice over is annoying you, or not"... Well, it wouldn't be annoying at all if the voices were similar. However, the voice over guy whispers like Sir David Attenborough and articulates almost in the manner of the "funny" background commentator of some reality shows.

[@FullThrottleChannel97]

i wonder were they get their tiber from in the uk

[@Unclejake]

Why don't the tool builders have a routine set up to regularly sharpen drill bits? That should be the FNG's (Freaking New Guy) job .

[@kyfisher3662]

what thickness of timber do you make your templates out of? and what router bits do you use?

[@adamjohnson460]

This has nothing to do with this build but i was wondering if it is possible to build a guitar out of ceder wood i just got a,large chunk of ceder wood from a friend

[@joshwest8882]

around 14:00 when your changing the bearings, do they cost as much or more than skateboard bearings? cause they look similar in size

[@wchbang4811]

Has anyone got any suggestion of where you can get wood the size of the piece He made the body out of?

[@JamespMusic]

I really don’t understand why he left the template on???? He traced the outline with pencil, and then put back on instead... makes no sense to me

[@franciscodanconia3551]

Sawing the body with the template on was stressing me out, unreasonably. It's not my guitar or my template, and in no other way impacts me. Why was it so stressful?

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

Because deep down you know it was a stupid risk that I should have avoided and that you are a better person than me, and are! Thanks for watching. B

[@franciscodanconia3551]

@@CrimsonCustomGuitars I wouldn't claim to be a better person than you. You're definitely more entertaining than me, better at building guitars than me, and have better tattoos than me (or at least more since I only have two). I think it's because I'm so uncoordinated. If I were to attempt that, I'd catch the template on the saw, the saw would bite into it and bind, snap the blade and throw the whole thing into my no-no place, and as I collapsed, I'd knock myself out on the table... Or something similarly stupid and dramatic.

[@behemothokun]

42 sign in the 42nd minute of the video^^ CONSPIRACY!

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

We'll go with the latter... :D

[@caloss2]

Router table is making a slightly # F tone while Ben is working, it's not quite F# interesting.

[@budandbean1]

Curiously Ben, why did you build your production area so you have to go downstairs whenever you need to cut or drill anything? I mean, it's a great workout but come on here...

[@bevo65]

5:35 "Ommm ..."

[@heathbarnhart1092]

If you have interns you could make them go sharpen everything.

[@Mephiston]

Nah, you'd want it done properly. Get them to sharpen their own tools though.

[@heathbarnhart1092]

You carry a Leatherman and a Swiss army?

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+Heath Barnhart yeah, the leatherman doesn't have scissors and sometimes the Swiss army is just more comfortable to use.. A smaller profile

[@heathbarnhart1092]

This is what I carry. Its the first multitool I've ever owned that had working scissors. It is a bit heavy and the belt holster it comes with is cheap, but its the best multi-tool I've ever had. www.theemsstore.com/store/product.aspx/productId/11136/selectedVariationId/16602/Gerber-Suspension-Multitool-Butterfly-Opening?gclid=CLLkiprav9ACFdgPgQodGJgNew

[@jtpguitarrepairsandrestora8730]

Do you sell scrap woods??😂😂😂

[@nazarenodavidcastagliuolo760]

donde esta el 4 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh jajajjaja

[@r.miller4810]

Dingleberry?!?

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+R. Carl I know, I'm bad with names at the best of times and while thinking about the build I just completely lost myself.. He laughed though so alls good.

[@benleydon]

Cant help but think of this film scene seeing Ben trying to cram a many hour build into a couple of hours kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJbdpYGAht6FgMk

[@cameroncrowley1226]

Next challenge: build a guitar only using hand tools. ;-)

[@tyler_bt3326]

Cameron Crowley how do you think it used to be done ;)

[@cameroncrowley1226]

Tyler Brooke-Thomas True!! But I don't think Ben's used to building guitars with no power tools.

[@behemothokun]

maybe he can do it with the 90 hour version^^

[@CrimsonCustomGuitars]

+Cameron Crowley what! I am affronted and, and, saddened :( I do like my router for cavities etc but I certainly could, and probably will, do a hand tool only build. First up though I'm planning one with a limited toolkit of chisels, planes, power drill, scroll saw and scrapers, a router is a possibility but I want it to be things a budding luthier could fit in a tiny garage while being somewhat efficient where possible.

[@cameroncrowley1226]

Crimson Custom Guitars I think limited power tools would be a lot more interesting anyway than just using hand tools! Especially for us.

[@rogerj412]

Bill Clinton was the 42nd President of the United States. Does that mean Bill Clinton is the meaning of life?