Ep. 339 | Choosing the Right Hunting Riflescope in 2024

Different critters, terrain, rifles, personal capabilities, tactics and what a person wants to get out of their hunt will dictate the best riflescope for them. Mark Boardman and Ryan Muckenhirn break down the hunting riflescope category to help hunters select the optimal riflescope for their outdoor adventures.
00:00 - Intro
8:27 - How to Choose a Riflescope for the Midwest
18:04 - LPVOs for Hunting
23:10 - New Viper® HD Riflescopes
32:28 - Riflescope Illumination
35:13 - New Viper® HD Riflescopes (cont.)
49:46 - FFP vs SFP
59:30 - The Razor® LHT™
1:05:34 - The Strike Eagle®
1:10:37 - Closing Thoughts
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[@MrMillez]

Love the podcast. Have several vortex scopes. You never talk about light transmission. Zeiss 92%. Swarovski 93%. Vortex unknown. To me anyway. Thanks gents.

[@londonleatherboy]

Zeiss HT 95% 8)

[@ScopeBiteOutdoors]

Man, that was one of the best podcasts you guys have made. I always enjoy Ryan and Mark bouncing off of one another. I must say that i have to side with Mark, on using the 3-15. I live in Saskatchewan where long shot opportunities are quite common, and that extra magnification helps. Keep up the good work guys.

[@NotStockPhoto]

Hey thanks for a great podcast I drive around 70k miles a year in a custom painted SprinterVan as a HotRod/custom car photographer, and always need something to listen to. Found your podcast the end of last year, and I’m quickly listening to all the past episodes. Just recently got the vortex sparc solar for my custom Rossi .44mag “van gun” , and really needed this episode I’m building a .3030 for a pig gun. This podcast pretty much answered all my questions…….. thanks again keep up the great work 👍 👍 👍

[@ixTaTonkaxi]

Mark, your intros with Memis' outros could be the best thing on the interweb

[@rockchalk06]

I could watch this 5 times in a row and still pick up some info I didn't know or that I needed. Great Job guys. Thanks

[@CoinCommunityCollectors]

I have a vortex diamondback 3.5-10x50 it is amazing. Nothing too powerful and it’s a crystal clear scope that’s easy to use. It is an excellent scope for deer hunting where I live.

[@chadmorrison5094]

Hey guys, love the talks! I have aot of rifles and various scope types. Living in the low lands of the Appalachian mountains I certainly fall into that 25 yards on out to pasture fields nearing 300 yards. I keep falling back into purchasing BDC scopes in the 2x12x44. The old guy in me was brought up using straight power scopes and practicing hold over so the BDC feels comfortable. As an avid reloader I like to tune my reloads to the rifle for max accuracy. Then back off to hunting mode in lower magnification. Love the Vortex scopes!

[@dreadnaughttactical]

What we REALLY need more conversations about are scopes for long range precision and ELR shooting.. best budget options for newbies just getting into long range precision shooting.. MOA or MRAD.. reticle types and understanding "christmas tree" type reticles and using all of the info they can prrovide you with.. FFP vs SFP.. using your magnification correctly.. holdover vs dialing the turrets.. scope height over bore.. illuminated or non illuminated reticle.. BDC reticles and truing your rifle to your reticle drop points.. using your reticle for sizing and ranging targetss.. Ballistic calculators and Apps.. reading and calculating windage without a Kestrel.. knowing your G1 and G7 BC.. Look guys.. I know you have already touched on ALL of these things in other videos.. but some of us would really appreciate MORE indepth discussions on a few of these topics.

[@cedricnakashima432]

Like you said, they covered most of these in previous episodes and honestly if you can't cover it an an hour and a half long 10 minute talk, probably should look at a class or a book instead.

[@riley3760]

I’m looking to get my hands on my first bolt action hunting rifle (6.5 CM or 6.5 PRC) and this podcast is a wealth of knowledge. After this episode, it’ll 100% be the Viper HD 3-15x MRAD. Thanks!

[@iceisnice61]

WOW, was that an excellent watch. Interesting w/o Jimmy. I have been enjoying the "Vortex Nation podcast" for many years now, along w/ the "Vortex Edge" Training Series, or anything that comes out of Vortex. My favorites still have be the shows w/ Jerry Miculec, The PSR/ELR show and the "Get to Know The Hosts Show". I am still LMAO at the beginning watching Ryan look at Jimmy and Mark argue like a married couple. Hilarious. I have owned Vortex products now, for about 6 years (transitioning from German glass) and upon my first purchase (a Red Dot) I had to deal with Customer Service. After a few minutes on the phone, w/ one return call from Vortex later, I was COMPLETEY FLOORED. Many a company claim "Customer Service" but when it comes time to deliver... ouch! That CAN NOT be said of Vortex. I found them to be courteous, friendly, kind (not that false corp disney kindness), VERY knowledgeable and "Over The Top" Professional. I had a new Red Dot in my hands in matter of days. Due to this professionalism, and kindness, I am now on my 11th Vortex product, w/ 2 more items on the Wish List. The actual reason for writing this long diatribe is due to my recent (6 May '24) phone call to Vortex Customer Service. After several months of trying to find an answer to a perceived problem, I gave up and decided to call. While the guys always state "give a call or email us", I am usually reticent to do so. Now I know the guys also state that they work the phones, and that I have no doubt, but I figured it is usually done by other pros in the shop and Mark, Ryan and Jimmy "help out". So you can imagine my utter shock and surprise when I dial the number and get "Hallo.... Ryan here, how can I help...?" I was dumbfounded and took a second to get my bearings, perhaps a little "star struck". Ryan and I had a good laugh at my silliness and then proceeded on to matter at hand. Well it took Ryan all of 1 - 2 mins to solve my problem. So I asked if he would mind offering his opinion on some 'glass' that would work on a PRS in .22LR. I have Vortex mounted on my PRS 6.5 creed and my .338 lap. We chatted for several minutes, and in the end he gave me 3 scopes/options to look at. Then early this wk, this podcast shows up in my inbox, and so I had to give it a watch and then started howling when they got into the subject of .22LR Long Range and PRS. I would LOVE to go w/ the "Vortex Strike Eagle" 3x18 alas the cost is up there, so I went w/ the other option Mr. Muckenhirn suggested, a Vortex Venom. Now trying to decide 3x15 or 5x25. MOA or MRAD (My entire world is MOA). Keep up the AWESOME work gentlemen, it is very much appreciated and loved. Happy Hunting Sincerely G Stone

[@jaybailleaux630]

I find the 2x7 power scopes to be the best power range for medium game like deer and elk. 16x power is the most magnification for hunting conditions for small varmints like prairie dogs. Folks do not understand how much more refinement and optical qualities is needed for high scope magnification especially with all variables power scopes. That is why an inexpensive fixed 4x scope can equal the optical quality of a more expensive 3x9 variables.

[@thepracticalrifleman]

This episode created the image in my head of Don Johnson in a yellow Plymouth ‘Cuda convertible pulling off the road on a mountainside, popping the trunk and uncasing a classic Remington 700 with a brand new Vortex Viper HD 2-10x then fast forward to a mule deer strapped to the hood pulling back into town ala “The Deer Hunter” movie. Thanks for the podcast, boys.

[@Dream-season]

I love everything about this podcast … there are great takeaways from every single one of them!

[@colinjones8956]

I own 2 venom, an eagle, and a diamond back on various rifles. I am also a Iowa revolver hunter. Recommended me a vortex product for my 460 smith and wesson.

[@DawsonsDesigns82]

Recently outfitted my mini 14 with the crossfire scout scope and I'm really impressed how much you can get done with a 2-7, hopefully it can help me take some coyotes this fall

[@sprky8039]

Im watching these podcasts while I reload. Very informative, entertaining, and enjoyable. Keep up the good work.

[@davidgendron1953]

Good old Fix 4 or 6 power scopes, simple light sturdy reliable(my Leupolds are anyway! And bright enough for my uses) and plenty of magnification from 50 to 400m

[@davidgendron1953]

@VortexNationGiveaway so i am the winner?

[@gordonmarshall4900]

Love this podcast, listened to nearly every episode. After seeing the turkey cartridge talk, it'd be interesting to see .450 bushmaster. 350 legend vs 20 and 12 guage slugs at 100 yards. We're stuck with straight walls here in Ohio for white tails.

[@VortexNation]

Not sure if you saw this one already, but if not, there may be some useful info in there for you. Thanks for tuning in!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aai3anycnZl8pbc Mark B.

[@speedyforde3404]

Awesome podcast! I want so many scopes now 😂

[@DanielPhillips86VA]

Great video guys, I’ve always been a 3-9 or 4-12 kinda guy. After watching this podcast, I’ve gotta get my hands on the 2-10 Viper HD and give it a try on my 30-06 Virginia/Pennsylvania deer rifle!

[@phild9813]

I really like the idea of the 2-10x but I see no reason to have such a steep weight penalty for a hunting scope. This isn’t unique to Vortex. A long, heavy 30mm scope is the norm for hunters and scope makers now. Gross. I remember the last generation Leupold 2-7x weighed like 8-9 ounces. Now, double that figure is considered lightweight.

[@KellyFerguson-wk7jx]

How about the Vortex Legacy Series? High gloss black to add to your older blued classic rifles, something that goes with your beautiful wood stock blued steel rifle.

[@KellyFerguson-wk7jx]

So I guess I didn’t win a 20 gauge shotgun?

[@timothythompson6549]

​@@KellyFerguson-wk7jx you, me, and everyone else 😂

[@Godfryness]

Love the podcast

[@casman9635]

In my personal opinion, the only reason to choose second focal plane over first is for cost. But I would rather just save a little longer and get FFP. But I also know that some people simply don't need it. It could be argued that no one does. It is a luxury. But worth it for me.

[@bradysheridan5931]

Awesome informative and educational talk. I think you covered all the scenarios and qualifiers. I learned alot. From the off-grids woods of Ontario!

[@bradysheridan5931]

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[@dpbierman2586]

Thanks for a great podcast guys.. this confirms what I preached to friends and co- hunters all the time... they struggle along with big, heavy, too high magnification optics and end up paying the price when they have to make a quicker shot.

[@DDay336]

I shot my first cow elk in Colorado at 20 to 25 yards at 6 power, no problem.

[@chipsterb4946]

At what distance/magnification does adjustable parallax become really beneficial? Your discussions of first vs. second focal plane and illuminated reticles were useful.

[@DDay336]

I'm a big game hunter in Colorado and run a Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25x56. I don't mind the weight on my Bergara B-14 Crest as it helps tame the 7 PRC recoil. I want a balance of overall gun weight. Light enough to hike around, but heavy enough to shoot accurately. With the extra zoomies, I don't need to carry a spotting scope to identify if a bull is legal.

[@TMFShooting]

Another Great Video 💯 , Thanks for Sharing 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@mattp9574]

I really appreciate your guys take on hunting shots- 600 yards and in, would like to hear how much practice it takes to get confident at that range and how you did it. I think too many of us shoot out to 1-200 yards get some nice groupings and then extrapolate out to 3-500 yards with our ballistic charts and kestrels thinking they are a replacement for repetitions when they are really supplemental tools to fine tune our performance.

[@hghunter44]

I use the 4-12x 40 mm Diamondback on my deer rifle. It is a great scope and has never failed me in my 10 years of using it in the field.

[@HKUSP45]

@vortex I’m currently running viper pst. What would be the advantage of upgrading to viper hd

[@rodog504]

Inherited my dads late 60's early 70's Rem 700 in 270 with an old redfield illuminator 3x9 looking to put that scope on my 22 lr and put something more modern for shooting 400 yards and in at the high end realistic is 300 yards (for Elk sized and smaller) unless I shoot alot more perhaps. I just noticed that old redfield which was peak for it's time im struggling at dawn and dusk looking at deer in the woods with open lanes cut in them(identifying rack size not trying to shoot anything but a nice buck). at 140 yards and in some what. Crosshair is option is not much of a concern as I think a simple one with a proper sight in should be point and shoot out to the 300 mark roughly.

[@timothythompson6549]

I bought the 3-18 Strike Eagle for exactly the reasons listed. A hybrid scope is exactly what it is, even if ir wasn't intended as such.

[@TooLucky406]

Been asking for a SFP with higher mag and objectives in the Razor LHT. The Viper 5x25x50 is a nice start. Still think there's a market for better glass and light weight in Razor line but excited to get my hands on the new Vipers!

[@msquared9605]

I already had a viper HSLR 4-16x50 laying around when I got my Sig Cross for Christmas so I threw it on there. Love the scope but been looking for a lighter and more compact option as well as less magnification to take advantage of the lightweight and handiness of the rifle. I’ve been waiting on the new Eotech vudu x 2-12x40 but this new viper 2-10x42 has caught my eye. Love having options

[@REDNECKROOTS]

Won't beat a Leupold vx3 2-7x32. Super light. Super clear, awesome reticles for hunting. Lifetime transferable warranty. Yea I'm a Leupold guy 💯

[@afields1002]

Man, the new Viper HD series is almost too good to be true... I mean doesn't this threaten the Razor LHT? It's almost half the price, and what, weighs a couple ounces more? Comparing the two side-by-side, I would be hard pressed to spend the extra for seemingly very little gain. Very nice run down of the lineup. Thanks!

[@Leomana.t]

Aloha from the big Island. Love the podcast, i watched all the videos. love learning about everything. Im leomana native hawaiian from mauna kea marine veteran infantry with force recon. Part of the ocean clan and family. I just started hunting rifle, had a bow the last three years. i rock a strike eagle ontop of a remington 783. this isnt my choice set up. it was the only things left after the covid lockdowns in our small town shop. i told myself no weapons till 10 past of getting out. was stationed in falujah so i never wanted weapons after. anyway ten years past and i went in and that was available. Hawaii has shit gun laws and it affects the shops here and what we can buy and sell. i decided i would use my social platforms to help promote hunting and better a2 policies in hawaii. started shooting content every day and planning to call my channel kipu. I love the gear. all my glass is vortex. hoping one day to work with you guys and get a sponsorship or on the team some how. i was looking at the army new tech scope and i know forsure the sniper scopes interface and screen will be really amazing and im super interested in that. out side of that looking to upgrade my set up and was wondering if anyone is willing to trade a strike eagle for a more longr range hunting scope. these all have amazing lifetime warranty so you can always get a new one at trade in. if you ever in Hawaii lmk... aloha

[@Drakehilt]

The venom 3-15 is my favorite scope. It's just perfect for just about everything

[@thestrawberrypatch5644]

4-12 power is OK 4-16 is a sweet spot in power. 44 mm objective is OK. 50 mm is a good choice too. Anything beyond you need to know what you are up to and won't be asking for help.

[@phild9813]

I’ve personally struggled a bit with a big game hunting scope with a 4x bottom end (too high) and a 12x top end (also too high). 2-3x to 7-10x is more than enough for me, and I suspect it’s more than enough for a lot of other people too. 1” tube provides more than enough adjustment for a big game hunting scope also. I know, nobody asked :)

[@f550lover]

I love my 4-16x42 eagle. I wish it had illumination.

[@matthewchapman7810]

So after months of agonising over scopes for my new Tikka T3X Hunter stainless in 30-06... Ive settled on the Strike Eagle 3-18. I've watched so many videos, especially yours. Please don't tell me I'm wrong in this video. I'm in Australia, hunt Western Queensland and Northern New South Wales. It's just for longer shots, mainly on pigs. I run around with two different 30-30s for anything inside 200... I'll probably use the Tikka for deer ar some point, maybe a Cape bull or a water buffalo, maybe. They might be anexcuse to get a 45-70. But please, God, I hope this doesn't tell me I'm wrong about the strike eagle😂

[@hunterdka]

Kicking off Monday right

[@nuckyduk15]

I would LOVE for y'all to do an expanded talk on the Crossfire & Diamondback line. When I was younger and didn't have the financial freedom to spend more than $200 on an optic I was lost. I bought cheap, no name garbage off Amazon because at least for $120 I could get a high magnification scope with all the bells and whistles right? It didn't take long to realize those scopes were complete garbage and I would've been better off with a Crossfire 2 with lower magnification and no features. I still have my "entry level" Crossfire's and I still use them occasionally.......but once you've been spoiled by the Viper line it's hard to go back.

[@brierwolf]

You know what matters to me? I need a scope I can drop on the ground, drop in the mud, drop in the snow, submerge in water, wack against a tree, and that can go from a 74F house to a 5F field and it just works. Because if I can trip, drop, walk into or otherwise stumble I will. Plus its gotta work beautifully at very first and very last light.

[@robdeff49]

My whitetail rig for thick woods of NY is rem model 7 with a bosh and lomb 1.5x5x20 rifle and scope vintage 1980s it's about due for a new scope am going to look into the viper pst ..thanks 👍

[@peterreily1490]

Marky Mark, it’s 94 degrees 94% humidity. You’re giving away a vortex hoodie? Not even a strike eagle 1-6 SFP? Sweet, a hoodie in 94 degrees 94% humidity. What I’ve always wanted!

[@peterreily1490]

#Arken I’m kidding (no I’m not) but I do run vortex currently.

[@MontanaDirtRoads]

Be real awesome if the vortex scope I might buy was made in the same country as the rifle.

[@brandondavis5249]

Coincidence that this is the topic after I asked Ryan a week ago about a scope for my 35 whelen in dark timber and shots under 200 yards.

[@roblindberg9339]

This question is for Ryan. I have numerous Diamondback 4x16x42 scopes and a few Diamondback 3x10x50. I hu t pretty much all open coutry in eastern Nebrasks. In your opinion, which one would you choose?? Also have Crossfires. In total, over 30 Vortex scopes and a couple Leupold. But I bounce around on scope power and objective bell size. What are your thoughts

[@brandonb8700]

Enjoy the podcast and just got caught up on a nice binge! I have a pst gen 2 and a diamondback tactical, noticed they weren’t talked about much. Does the new venom take place of the diamondback?

[@mikemelina7395]

I was unable to identify a deer at 1st shooting light in heavy timber this past November with a LPVO at 1x. Not enough light gathering. That was the only shot I got last year and I couldn't take it.

[@LeakyJoosbox]

I do have a question on the scopes with the locking exposed elevation turrets. Can i still get a custom turret made for my gun and that scope that can still use the locking features?

[@baumdiggity27]

Used my 1-6 viper pst gen 2 last season in nc. Fogged up really bad. Still got the job done tho.

[@jeffgrunigen7597]

Thoroughly enjoying the progression in quality of podcast openings. Could use a suggestion on a handed down .270 win browning safari II. Eastern US hunting application.

[@Huckleberry_Hunter]

I think the viper HS 2.5-10 would be a beautiful fit for that rifle. I love mine. I have a .270 with a Diamondback HP 3-12 on it and it works nice, but it’s not as pretty as I bet that browning is.

[@jamesgardner4126]

Will we ever see something with lower magnification from the razor lht ffp??? Maybe a 2.5-12.5 or 3-15 or 3.5-18??? I know the reticle would need some tuning to optimize it for use at lower power, but my God that would be the ticket for me for a do all with primary focuses being split evenly between western predator-big game hunting and flat range combo gun.

[@jamesgardner4126]

Edit, I love in San Diego, our Mule deer are small but generally moderate ranges with our rolling hills, but Arizona Cous deer and northern California and Utah Idaho Colorado Oregon and even Texas and New Mexico are hunts I rotate through I have family in Wisconsin and also in Georgia and want to be able to use the same gun. Just one or maybe 2 rifles for all my predator through elk and bears. Like a 6.5 creed and a 7prc or ought 6 or 284ai or 6.8western.

[@chipsterb4946]

2.5-12.5x sounds like a fantastic magnification range for many applications. Maybe a 46mm objective? And adjustable parallax please.

[@jamesgardner4126]

@@chipsterb4946 objective bell anywhere between 42-50 would be fine with me, more compact and mounted lower is a plus, but so is better low light performance, so that wouldn't be a deal breaker for me either way, but first focal plane medium power lightweight hunting tactical is something that doesn't really exist rn. Athlon Helos BTR gen II is the only thing in that realm, but it's over 25oz so not exactly lightweight, and I'm not in love with how fine the reticle is on the low end.

[@chipsterb4946]

@@jamesgardner4126 25 Oz. is just too much for me.

[@mikekropidlowski1237]

Great just when i thought I had convinced my wife to top her new .204 with the 5-25×56 that 3-18 would look a lot more at home on on the new Ruger American. Good thing we have to drive past Vortex Headquarters on the way out to Sodak dog towns next week. 🤣

[@ethanladymon6760]

I am still patiently waiting for a Viper PST Gen III 2-10 with an updated reticle and locking turrets.

[@adamb2619]

2-7x Crossfire 2 has been very pleasant on my 357x Henry.

[@marquiesweaver3976]

I am building a SPR/Recce style AR15 and looking for what is the best type of scope to go with. I have LPVO on 2 other AR's but not sure if a scope would be a better option

[@nunyabiznes32]

Try a 2-10x with a top mount red dot

[@matthewchapman7810]

Yeah so thanks... now I'm buying the Viper HD 3-15... FFP is weird to me anyway.🤷‍♂️ We think this is a good idea right?

[@cypherthepro]

Does being in the UK meet thr cretira for Comment of the week? Shout out to Ryan M for his messages on socials. Always a great chat! Can't wait to hear more hunting stories and plans as your own season starts!

[@oscarbear7498]

Revolver Handgun hunting scope, podcast please mark 🙏

[@ZacharyNWare]

I would be interested in seeing a 10 minute talk on the Hornady Superformance line. I hunt with a Rem 700 Classic from 1988 chambered in 35 Whelen. I believe it has a 22 inch barrel and I’m wondering if there is an advantage to shooting superformance ammo? Are they able to produce faster speeds by using slower burning powder that peaks longer compared to Nosler, Remington, and Barnes?

[@msquared9605]

I’m not sure what their recipe is, but they most definitely have an increase in velocity with no obvious increase in pressure. I chrono’d the 308 150 grain sst in my 16” sig cross and I was getting around 2730fps. Which to me, is screaming out of a 16” barrel and also isn’t bad when the box posted velocity is 3000fps which is most likely in a 24” test barrel

[@tinybadastronaut]

Woooo, early bird here! Good morning, guys!

[@timothythompson6549]

I'd like to see a video on scopes and mounting options on ARs for precision shooting, DMR, and hunting applications. Bur I'm an AR noob.

[@scttewegner72]

50 to 300 yards, 6.5 grendel for deer and hog... What scope around the 400 to 700 dollar range?

[@CanPat777]

Yeah for the metric system!!!

[@tylerkirsch103]

Can we see a 3-15 ffp in the vioer or lht?

[@ryanharris6045]

Does Vortex. Or does anyone make a plain old fixed 4 power scope anymore?

[@mr.mr.3301]

I wish more would make 4 power scopes. 3-12x44 would be great.

[@oggie421kerrscreekfd]

Does scope ring hights make a difference in short or long distance shots? Should you keep your scope as close to the barrel as possible? Thanks 🇺🇲

[@msquared9605]

It’s really just a question of fitment and comfort ability behind the gun. I’d say it’s somewhat important for long range shots tho, the closer the scope is to the bore, the more scope travel you will have for dialing elevation. Because when it’s zeroed while close to the bore, the less you had to dial the scope down to meet up with the path of the bullet. Then to make long range shots you essentially have to move the reticle down which makes the barrel point higher to compensate

[@rosalindstewart7013]

Check out Mark and Sam after work, they have some great advice on scope height in several of their videos mate, cheers Yogi 🤙✌️

[@stevenjackson7609]

S.Jackson St.louis , I have a Ruger .30-.06 and mounted the Vortex Hawke on it , was it a good or bad choice 🤔 comment

[@stevenjackson7609]

4-12-50

[@mikerobinson6606]

Personally, I find it very difficult to find a scope that actually fits long action rifles due to the tubes being so short that you can't get appropriate eyebox fit. Extended scope bases sometimes hinder reliable ejection on magnum rifles.

[@jacobcline7076]

The smattering has been smatted.

[@brandongriffin2930]

Yall need to come out with a more budget 1-10!!!! I’m honestly suprised yall haven’t yet! With a moa mil drop ret…

[@jonyork999]

surprised the diamondbacks got no mention!

[@coltcomphbar]

I want a strike eagle genii 1-10 with 34mm tube

[@ronws2007]

ipet most of the times. Good price, morgan.

[@ukwan]

Can you please just make a range of simple fixed power scopes with a 30/30 cross hair reticle and decent glass. 4x32, 6x42 and 8x56 that don't break the bank like the European fixed mags.

[@A-a-ron480]

I'm just waiting for some night time stuff, I feel so dirty looking at other brands.

[@jamessammann9183]

Think.struke eagle is a better scope than hd

[@linkchen8245]

Choose the Vortex Viper HD

[@exodusz19]

I’m sad that y’all didn’t introduce a Viper HD 1-25x LPVO. Really had an opportunity to render all other scopes obsolete…. /s

[@user-eg8hb8xt3j]

Including their own . Great for us . Bad for business maybe

[@mr.mr.3301]

But dang ffp are so small at lower power I have to crake it up to see the drops. So you are essentially back to second focal.

[@charlesadams7862]

... why are you trying to use the hold on low power? Low power is for closer range. Where drops won't matter.

[@u8rooster191]

Bring back the razor AMG. It's better than the LHT without being much heavier.

[@shannonsalvestro5902]

Mark... Please stop saying "you know". But, love your work!

[@VortexNation]

Will do my best....It's tough ya know:) Thanks for listening!

[@Drakehilt]

Did Mark just tell us his mother maiden name?

[@mcnivenjjm]

Comment, comment, comment. This is me commenting! You guys are great. You guys make great entertainment!

[@beyondtheblackstumpoutdoor3106]

Cartridge talk on 450 marlin

[@clockworknunez-dv2yh]

Algorithm buster

[@InfamousTactical]

To talk like you can use a FFP reticle at 5x or lower is funny. I prefer FFP for nearly everything. But at low power for hunting and using the reticle is unrealistic. The reticle is way too small to ready or utilize. In a LPVO with a reticle designed to be a “red dot “ at low power and normal reticle at 8x is one thing. But trying to use a 4-16x or 5-25x at low power and read the reticle or for that matter use it to hold over is not realistic

[@chipsterb4946]

I would think anywhere below about 6x you’re inside your maximum point blank range anyway. However, if the scope goes up to 15x it might be good to be able to use the details on the reticle anywhere between 10x and 15x.

[@michaelficarro2591]

MILS is waaaaaaay easier......

[@bigben2469]

Used the same process with my brother when he was choosing a rifle caliber: what are you using it for, cost, longest ranges. Talked him into a 30-06 over 308 or 300 win mag then he went and threw a 5-25 strike eagle on it hunting wisco whitetails in slashings.🫠