Ep 42 : Some distracting Designs : Oxygen not included

[@JaRyCu]

Francis John: Strengths: Can dissect a 4000 cycle old ONI map with ease; can melt entire unmeltable rockets and create massive bases; can defeat a 600 scyther/centipede haywire raid with a pawn armed with a shortbow and a stick and a chihuahua. Weaknesses: OMG THAT NAME HAS EXTRA LETTERS!!!! NNNNOOOOOOO!!!

[@beheroot]

quite good description of dyslexia :D we'r good at patterns (seeking,making and following) but p b d - they'r the same picture. My brain kind a does the same with lots-of-letter names/nicknames as Francis speaks :D

[@KainYusanagi]

Not even extra letters, a lot of the time, lol.

[@JaRyCu]

@@KainYusanagihe also adds in his own letters when there aren't enough (in his opinion)! LOLOL

[@telioty]

He's also Irish and can pronounce gaelic spellings with ease. But anything Germanic or Baltic he struggles Lol

[@beheroot]

@@telioty i have superpower. I speak polish ;) There was one patreon from poland whose name and surname i think killed part of Francis brain - i laughed HARD. Because i know two men with this name (Wojtek/Wojciech) who spend portion of their life with english speaking people... and they give them hard time ;)

[@spoon1710]

That 4k cycle base made me miss my old looooong bases. I thinkbmy best work was 6.5k cycles of a bade that required almost no dupe interaction. Every asteroid automated to the fullest each dupe only have a habitat and a tube to their one and only job. It was a thing of beauty with its main purpose to replace the entirety of the ocean planet with super coolant. Didn't manage to do it but got about half way.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I still have that rocket map somewhere that I wanted to flood to the brim. So many dreams unfinished :)

[@spoon1710]

@FrancisJohnYT so many projects that I have left unfinished in ONI either due to the game not being able to handle them or just get tired of them. My biggest one probably is a map where I had 28 oil wells and wanted to see if I could make a sour gas boiler to process it all. I spent over a month trying to come up with a design that would fit on the map but the spaced out came out.

[@themysticgeologist]

The "The" was added when I had to create a new account, so either one works. As a note, in the 10 or so cycles I let this variant run, the room was increasing in pressure and the pipes were filling up. Although from what you were saying about using manual airlocks for the infinite liquid storage, and shrinking down one of the transformers (there is plenty of excess capacity on other transformers), it should be possible to add the intended normal gas pump. My design was very much inspired by the Baby Mini Base, which I enjoy having on in the background regularly.

[@joshuachesterfield8354]

I love the intro so much! I like to pause it right after the first second so all I hear to begin with is "AAAAAAAAAHHHH"

[@piotrwojtaszek4295]

Here is something I found out today: If you launch a duplicant towards the temporal tear and they expire along the way due to entirely unpredictable circumstances, such as not having loaded sufficient food, so long as the autopilot manages to position the ship on top of the tear, you can still move the ghost ship through it, piloted evidently by the late dupe's spirit. This then launches the cheerful little animation with all of your colony prancing in joy, which somehow doesn't stop them from mourning their compatriot's demise. Incidentally, how did they get wind of the cursed pilot's fate?

[@SpottedHares]

PSA to those who may want a design. Injecting 402kg-536kg of polluted water at 37C per cycle will simulate the production of water from 60-80 dupes in you don't want to muck around with actually dealing with dupes.

[@andocromn8755]

OMG! You featured my base!!! you have no idea how happy that made me this morning! Please ask me anything

[@DasPanoptikum]

Is there anything that might need human interaction in the very long run or is this base actually fully 100% forever sustainable? Also, what kept you motivated for this long time on a single map?

[@andocromn8755]

@@DasPanoptikum it should be fully sustainable tho I have not stressed tested it for thousands of cycles. The only potential problem it has is the running petroleum boiler only runs at 8kg/s and the generators can consume more than that. However I had no idea how much was in infinite storage until FJ popped it. I have kinda just kept playing, more ideas to try since this was really my first playthrough. Since I sent it I actually fixed the geothermal petroleum boiler in such a way that it should run 10kg/s for many thousands of cycles and solidify the entire magma biome in the process. O and built solar, just cause.

[@richardvargo2740]

@@andocromn8755 If the only potential problem is running out of petrolium, I think we're fine xD

[@BakuSudoku]

The base survives 4000 cycles with Andocromn and 8 with Francis. Some powers are just too strong

[@Spoonwood]

From compressing an ocean planet to decompressing a petroleum pocket.

[@zHiidra]

The intro is so goofy and funny, don't change it, it's unique.❤

[@andocromn8755]

19:30 there is a airborne critter trap in the C miner setup. There's also another one in the wild moo room that is activated by a critter sensor in the tame moo ranch 21:12 I got this geothermal boiler working again! I will defeat the magma biome! 21:40 I had that much CO2 per tile throughout the whole oil biome at one point. It was just the atmosphere when I built it LMAO works fine so I left it. (Well) it processes 8kg/s just fine, the geothermal can do 10kg/s like a champ 23:52 they auto wrangle in order to repopulate the breading ranches. A critter sensor in each ranch opens a door which allows duplicates into the overcrowded room. Then one molten slickester is wrangled and brought to the underpopulated ranch. Unfortunately the wrangling continues until lunch is called. The Dreckos work the same way. 25:30 you didn't even get to the end of the conveyor line lol seeds are collected from the food freezer and brought to feed the fish 30:00 I had absolutely no idea how much petroleum was in there.... that was hilarious and I don't blame you at all Just wanted to say thank you again. I had a lot of fun watching you explore and destroy my base. I'm glad I could distract you for nearly an entire episode. When I sent it, I never thought I would be seeing it on your channel so soon. When you pulled it up my first thought was "that looks really similar to mine... OMG that is mine!!!" And literally jumped out of my seat!

[@andocromn8755]

My fix for the Geothermal petroleum boiler. it should run 10kg/s for many thousands of cycles. Went with sourgas because I should be able to get it to below -100c before I have to send my dupes back in i.imgur.com/vD4xXrN.jpg

[@nazgu1]

24:05 - I think the endless wrangling is for leveling up the ranching skill :)

[@andocromn8755]

It's actually to repopulate the breading ranches. critter sensors open a door which allows duplicates in, then one is wrangled and brought to the underpopulated ranch. Unfortunately the wrangling dupe will stay there and continue wrangling until the end of their shift. The Dreckos work the same way. I also want to point out that even though they are overcrowded, none are starving.

[@nazgu1]

5:40 - The Rimworld version of FJ briefly replaces the fluffy ONI one, in all of its brutal crimes-against-humanity glory :)

[@kinderdm]

I don't know why, but I really like the simplicity of temp controlling that petroleum boiler with just a temp sensor, an aquatuner, and solid metal tiles. Like, I always go for a door control tied to a temp sensor for precise control, but this is soo much simpler and elegant. I really like it.

[@andocromn8755]

Thanks! I went for total simplicity. The loops don't use any bypass bridge either because they use super coolant. 60kg of CO2 was just a simplicity choice as well, it was just the atmosphere that existed down there when I built it

[@danm468]

When I saw the petroleum compressed I knew it was “lots” but I had no way of knowing just how lots there was until you cracked it open!

[@BWSC81]

Just started watching, excited to see the thumbail screenshot includes a sun bathing area! Just what I always wanted for the Dupes!

[@bradgooner3284]

I think my computer needs an upgrade, at around 1000 cycles i start having some real issues. I also don't have the dlc so thank you for showing the 4k base it's something i'll never see in my playthroughs. Happy hols Francis, see you when you get back for some more oni.

[@sweetiewolfgirl]

Six hundred eighty hours. I would've been so done so many hundreds of hours before. It just takes so long to do anything and yet, they've been going on an old map this entire time. Hats off to them.

[@andocromn8755]

Thanks! Full disclosure, for some of those hours the duplicates played without me. I was initially just stress testing but then I just decided to let them have that life instead of reverting the save

[@cullyn]

This is just like base lovin and I love it!♥

[@HeavyMetalRocks]

@5:35 a duplicant experiencing a "FJ" an accident so you don't end up with flatulant dupes so they don't cause us any problems... Tony Soprano would be proud of a Departed / Goodfellas / Godfather reference.

[@nazgu1]

That unstoppable (ish) tidal wave of golden death was glorious! 😎

[@DreamingBlindly]

For the liquid stuff: in oni everything seems to like to go in a clockwise form where to checks the top - right - down - left for spaces to occupy/destroy. So in that order, left is the least of its concerns since every tile will check it last so it'll move a lot slower in that direction.

[@jodiac]

Yay more cliff empires I’m loving that game!

[@shlrup6154]

love how this just turned into base lovin halfway through

[@josefrees]

Love the sound of 300 slicksters

[@Danbearpig]

Always satisfying to see a big liquid explosion! Honestly, if I sent you a base with something so ridiculous and you didn't try to break it, I'd be disappointed.

[@r2dezki]

that soda fountain trick is pretty handy, you could do it in a normal base too, just isolate the carbon skimmer setup and pump the excess carbon there!

[@Wildtails1]

'figuring out other people's designs is a very interestesting challenge' I guarantee you the creator of that map will look at it a month after they finish with it and will barely be able to figure it out if they're anything like me, it all makes sense when you're designing it and then looking back at it you have to figure out why you even did it like that... I've often fixed something hundreds of cycles later to look easier to understand, only to find that weird branch existed for a good reason

[@HappyGingerWolf]

Is base lovin back then? Sounds great, I've had a 5000 cycle base I've been sitting on for a year or so

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Email is in the about section of the channel. Says business but that's the only option.

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

missed opportunity to make a shaft to the top above the petroleum and then open it up and watch the ...champagne spew out into space.

[@johnarmitage3452]

its time for a full flauntuant colony

[@jodiac]

Well now I want a regular vanilla game playthrough! Something like the massive rocket chimney from way back then and experimenting with all those things you haven’t really tried before (ie. wax, sauces, meteor blasters).

[@deadlyshizzno]

After what Francis said about Flatulent Dupes in this video I want his next serious to be all flatulent rather than all narcoleptic

[@htl2001]

I really should get around to showing off my 200 dupe challenge base... Going off memory, it was almost all pre-dlc release so no meteor defense, spices etc. What I did have though was an auto-refilling abyssalite melter (no conveyor meters made that annoying), auto "scheduled" (restricted fuel) rockets for most relevant planets, and nearly everything made for no atmo suits. I had a the custom speed mod configured for slower than 1x so dupes could actually get a turn to think

[@All_Night]

Makes me think that the "Base Lovin" series may make a comeback in the future.

[@inybisinsulate]

Decor: Gorjeous gives +12, barracks is +2 and Great Hall is +6. Hypothetically decor bombing might be more space efficient than what these do, no beds nor mess tables just statues with full Break time in all duplicants so they are forced to remain in Recreation rooms. Innovation is relative. Pressurized Polluted Water outputs 1.8 kg of pressure without co2 influence being the highest effiency space, excluding bubble suffocation like the dupe challange of yours used in the prisons. I could imagine both of these could get like 40 dupes in there if you ignore the Suffocation warnings, no atmo suits and Mesh tiles everywhere to allow disregarding Toilets +2 aswell. Happy torturing!

[@shadowofalegend8316]

I got a 7k base I've been messing about til my pc couldn't take the pressure of all the shenanigans and as a send off I popped open my water storage that casually racked up 10 billion tons of water, of course my pc cried hard with how much it water just kept coming out

[@lomionjones]

yeah if you uncork that compressed ocean from your map it just migrates upwards and floats in space, seemingly duping liquid faster than it can vanish into the background of space.

[@MathewSan_]

Great video 👍🔝

[@Wildtails1]

I think the forever wrangler might be there since there's no incubator? Hilarious solution I suppose when you have the people power

[@macproduktiv]

"Does anyone actually read the names" LOL. Yeah. I just read them. 😆

[@stegles]

I did the same thing a few days ago... but with Magma, get the double whammie of pressure damage and tiles melting. The simulation didn't agree with the fun I was having and decided to put a prompt end to it with a crash. I think I had 7000+ tons in 8 tiles, it was a hot mess.

[@NelsonGuedes]

In the last video, and in this one, whenever I saw an infinite liquid storage surrounded by doors, on the back of my mind I was thinking "common, Francis! Open the doors!". You've read my mind on that last one, Francis, lol. You should do the same in the rockets! 😂

[@i.eduard4098]

Never got past 1k cycles, I was always been attracted by the early game and sometimes mid game hump, after that the sandbox part felt like work. I feel great I know all those tricks and knowledge, except the machinery buff from spices and never did a moosy ranch but I would get bored looking at them building all those rails.

[@nematrec1]

Hmm, there's a thought. The more slicksters that are wrangled, the less of them are trying to pathfind

[@robsmith120]

love your videos man!!!!!!

[@L1SSU1N]

Oh!! Valladolid!! I have many friends there!! Enjoy Spain ❤

[@albertotognoni4819]

Good Channel content, keep It up Francis John

[@MichaelSayer-sf7gu]

This was a low key new episode of base lovin for the OGs

[@shneegle69]

Flatulent only dupes playthrough coming next 👀

[@Brand-eo8gv]

The intrusive thoughts won😂

[@LostRoss89]

14:14 I did not know you could select multiple things in the rail sensor. I never even tried. How did that slip by me for so long?

[@ProWhitaker]

Thanks for the video

[@yadiracamacho499]

I'll tell you what my sister told me when I moved to Valladolid: why? Lol. It's a pretty city and I have lots of great memories from when I lived there. If you like wine there's some nice bodegas near, la Ribera del Duero is a good wine region.

[@isaacsanchezsancho2306]

Hey enjoy your visit to Valladolid. :D

[@bjw8qsrmhgxn4wwk30]

Engie tuneup of steam turbines eat more heat, that's what it's there for.

[@TheLoneWolfling]

@21:52 - move the CO2 in there as a solid then heat it up? Or door-crush it in.

[@ilyazzar]

I'll be waiting in a community tab for a beverage update ...

[@yusakkiller2534]

Swimming in petroleum planet, yay

[@Genesis8934]

0:37 "Didn't have a requirement for that many atmosuit docks... well that saves fiddling. I could only see fitting like 16 atmosuit docks in a rocket with the amount of space you have lol. especially since you could only run them in a line and not detached from the checkpoint... :(

[@Dani0x1B]

have fun in Valladolid!

[@myxal]

13:25 - Huh? I know I checked this myself 2 months ago, and the "slimelung source" on pufts is a lie - the slime from pufts is germ-free, regardless of how contaminated the PO2 they breathe is. Decontamination is unnnecessary for puft-produced slime.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Weird they must have patched this out. In the past I had to exterminate pufts that kept reintroducing slime lung.

[@aaronbeaver3880]

I kinda want to see a playthrough of the pre DLC content now

[@splatguy22]

You should probably get blueprint claim notifications mod if you haven’t already.

[@frahfiggity]

I wonder if the endless wrangling is because the map uses a mod for higher limits for sliders, and it defaulted to 20 if you don't have the mod?

[@andocromn8755]

nope, no mods

[@Jen-gn5lh]

Hope you have a lovely holiday :)

[@andreastyrberg7556]

Just realised that you only are 6000 viewres from 100 000 Francis. We expect a celebration and some whisky when you reach that amount!

[@pirtatejoe]

"How do you fit all that CO2 in one tile?" - Just drop solid CO2 there before you build the thermal aquatuner. I'm not a big fan of the infinite liquid/gas storage, so I would freeze all the gasses and store them via conveyor rail into sealed rooms. I would use those rooms of super high pressure gasses as the heat sinks for a base. It's trickier, but possible to do the same with liquids.

[@andocromn8755]

lol so many comments about this. It was just the atmosphere. the whole biome had that much CO2 per tile

[@allyourgardeningneeds]

Have a great holiday FJ!

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

!chainsaw noise! WE'RE BACK! lol

[@JoelleTheAbsurdist]

Rocket loving? I think I had a friend who'd do that three of four times before bed

[@josefrees]

Have a nice vacation cheers

[@zito88]

I actually don't think it would be that difficult to get a ton of carbon dioxide in one place, especially in an area like it was on this base. Just freeze it solid and more CO2 will flow in and freeze, block it in and let it melt when you have enough.

[@gelion1990]

When you freeze co2 you can easily move around large amounts.

[@andocromn8755]

interesting thought, but no. The oil biome just had an atmosphere of 100kg of CO2 per tile at one point. it took a lot of molten slicksters and a lot of cycles to get the pressure down to 20kg. then we murdered them all

[@gelion1990]

@@andocromn8755 yea Ive never seen so high pressure naturally appearing, thought something else caused it

[@andocromn8755]

depends of if you call running 6 petroleum generators for 1000 cycles nature lol @@gelion1990

[@bentonsmith4316]

Do another base loving thing that would be awesome!

[@bigmc9049]

I mean, that petroleum was clearly taunting you. I heard it. Enjoy your vacation FJ. I wonder if there's any good whisky in spain.

[@dmd733]

I need to send in my 4k base :D

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Email in the about section of the channel!

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

He's going to Villadolid :D

[@Shezestriakis]

Liquids like to go up? Petroleum volcano to space anyone?

[@deredware9442]

I actually prefer hydrogen rockets even in the DLC nowadays. I just grabbed thermium and supercoolant with a steam rocket, then went straight for hydrogen. While the radbolt engines can be faster to setup, I prefer the hydrogen rockets because they require no additional interaction after they are set up, and building the liquid setup is fun. I've blasted too many dupes with radbolts after leaving the refueling thing on to use that method long term.

[@spoon1710]

Same boat as you, and they can also be self refueling if you re use the steam and make a big enough launch tunnel

[@deredware9442]

@@spoon1710 I had something like 15 kg/s water on that asteroid without any geotuning and a 9 electrolyzer hydra, so I didn't have any issues keeping it running nonstop. Got the setup to handle 1k/s of hydrogen constantly.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

For round trip rockets they are better than nuclear for sure. It's just I don't do a lot of round trips anymore. It's the strip mining that does it.

[@spoon1710]

@@FrancisJohnYT I do a lot of stupid challenges which require a lot of cluster mining. So it becomes infinitely better for that I have a design for a rocket that is completely self sufficient creating Food, Oxygen, Energy and Fuel for its self each launch. Only thing it doesn't do is create the diamonds for the mining bit.

[@tree_eats]

That slickster ranch. Oh god, lmao.

[@roadie9775]

you always play in your comfort zone, its fun to watch, but why not do a run where you pamper your dupes? plumed personal apartments, rec areas, sanitation 1 job per dupe. different food types for meals, ranching every type of critter, growing every plant, using machines like the air /water filters ac units. recreation rocket trips.

[@foley2663]

bring back base lovin :)

[@nemtudom5074]

21:50 Liquid Carbon dioxide probably

[@KaedeSenou]

FJ, after this colony, play a base game map! See what the experience is like after rs of updates and new buildings!

[@lc582]

Dear mr F John, how many powered incubators with those timers do you need to maintain 4 ranches with 8 slicksters each? How do you do the calculation? Thank you for the content. Playing along with the series. Regards LC

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Assuming slicksters. Slicksters live for 100 cycles. Incubators can incubate an egg in 4 cycles. So one incubator can support at least 20 slicksters.

[@kingkracker1998]

im thinking And-O-chome is how u would say his name

[@Gabrieluss99]

Hi Have you been on World jigsaw puzzle competition in Valladolid? If yes I am so sad that I did not recognize you.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Yeah was good times in Valladolid, you are the only person who made the connection between Valladolid and the puzzle championship. I figured their might be a bit of overlap but it turns out Puzzling is more of an all consuming hobby for most :) Sorry we did not get to meet, I was there to support the girlfriend so did not really advertise it. You from Valladolid or were you there for the puzzling?

[@Gabrieluss99]

@@FrancisJohnYT I was just Yunner for my wife. Just be there and spread good mood. She is puzzler and she with my sister in law ended 13th in pairs 👍

[@townpoem]

Does wrangling critters give xp?

[@allyourgardeningneeds]

Yes, since a few updates ago. That was my thought as well, a rancher gym o.o

[@custume]

I like the big bases, the DLC maps are really small

[@joeschmoe7324]

Has anyone ever used slicksters for co2 control?

[@beheroot]

And now you need to pay or Andocromn therapy :D

[@azrobbins01]

What is the pixel pack in the Carlos rocket doing? I saw it switch from blue to black a few times. Also, I did not know that you could offset-stack ladder beds. Does that mean you could essentially make stairs with them?

[@callum.dokkodo]

Enjoy Spain!!

[@baldbadger7644]

Quick question, How do we submit base save files?

[@FrancisJohnYT]

The email is in the about section of the channel. It says it's a business email.

[@AceCrosley79]

Sweet

[@duncansaunders5551]

Nice

[@Kigtiper]

cool

[@TheyCallMeSharkface]

petroleum = too much

[@bunstructors8591]

I'm sorry but petroleum has the color of pee so it's a peexplosion