Ep #6: Mind Games - The Dark History of Lobotomy | Dark History Podcast

[@Mar-qo8xu]

I love how we’re learning about history but feels like we’re gossiping

[@BaileySarian]

❤️❤️❤️

[@JessHenriquez]

Yyyaaaaasssss!!!

[@athomewiththecrazies]

Seriously 😂😂😂😂😂

[@katya5573]

Can someone tell me where’s episode 2?!!!! I have some kind of OCD I won’t watch the series unless I find it lol

[@leadvendor]

When you think about it, talking history is essentially gossip. She said/he said/they said, a whole mix of opinions and ideas, ripe for us to tear apart and discuss. That's what makes history awesome.

[@cheyanneward90]

Bailey doesn’t get the recognition she deserves! SHE IS A LITERAL KZbin PIONEER! She has literally started a whole new “Commentary Genre” on KZbin. Now everyone is doing makeup story telling. She took the top 2 genres on KZbin and clashed them together. PLEASE GIVE HER, HER ROSES NOW!!

[@vibinnailz7561]

Period!

[@danealybrook3]

Yes! So true!🙂🤗

[@Tarzilee]

Simply genius isn't it!!! 💜💜💜her.

[@LovMaya98]

Perioddddd

[@ciaramerrigan9552]

I’ll send her a Christmas card. Lol jk (sorry I had to)

[@_wickedtokyo7403]

Literally every story Bailey tell, will sound like a gossip and it's the most entertaining thing ever

[@spooningbards9138]

This. I would listen to any story she told!

[@Daphnevanz]

This is so true!

[@yomama12546]

Yeah, you’re the first one to point this gossip/tea/friend-like thing out!

[@briv6827]

Honestly!

[@marcy21ish]

True

[@superfluous85]

speaking of Kennedy, her life started in tragedy. Her mother went into labor, and she tried to deliver the baby, but the nurses in the hospital told her to close her legs because a doctor wasn't available to help with the birth. So the poor baby was in the birth canal for 2 hours before a doctor arrived, and had severe brain damage due to oxygen depletion. The reason she was a "rebel" in the first place...brain damage

[@tonemarieantonsen1597]

It's tragic 😰😰 For info her birth was at home. 🙂

[@user-vb6ky1mo9e]

Sadly this still happens

[@camineisler2335]

Yes I was going to comment this as well! So tragic

[@carissanicole]

That's f***ed up!?

[@littlewillowlinda]

Seriously like it was a miracle she survives and then they go and do this to her 😞

[@sorbetsurprise]

I'm so glad you are covering this. I fell down the Rosemary Kennedy rabbit hole a few years ago and I can't believe how badly she was treated by her own family and how little it is known.

[@Skittles-v5g]

Me too

[@anitahanchey7714]

This is actually the first time I've heard all this. Friggin scarey. Money talks....that's America for you.

[@Madsassy]

"women who needed therapy, people with homosexual tendencies, and animals! Those are like all my friends" SAME!

[@mariedelaurentiis]

Lol same.

[@sarahtheegemini]

SAME.

[@tabithapalmer5948]

Same!!!!!

[@tonyagarten4404]

Me too oh and those who love makeup and think 4 themselves yes dont leave out the woke lol!

[@wandasaenz810]

Same!

[@JestRLee]

As a dude, I know absolutely nothing about makeup beyond watching my mom apply it when I was a kid, watching girls I have dated do their makeup, and now my daughter do hers... I have always enjoyed the conversations with them as they did their makeup, as the distraction seems to allow for a more open and honest dialog... I don't know anything about makeup, but I can appreciate the talent and artistry, the amazing transformations created... I recently found your channel and watched because of the "mysteries", enjoying the delivery of the stories you present in your own unique way, your relaxed, sassy, playful personality, but found myself enjoying the makeup portion as well, as it takes me back to a time of meaningful conversations with the women in my life that I love....

[@hollypuckett3931]

🥺❤️

[@tamarabrown6739]

Awww

[@shelbykennedy4496]

💕

[@cupcakesyary]

Aww 😩 so wholesome

[@Jojo-lw5lr]

So cutee 🥺💙

[@cheyannecrabill]

Bailey is perfect, Joey is not necessary.

[@Lilspookyart]

oooof, rough😬, it was probably scripted

[@Frankly-xe4mg]

Joey needs to go

[@PhoenyxxFaux]

I love seeing how far you’ve come, Bailey! Joey can respectfully stick to lighting-quietly lol. His vibe doesn’t match the whole wonderful atmosphere you’ve created.

[@Alexandria024]

Respectfully 😊

[@Ricecakez380]

Still waiting for Bailey to have her own show on Netflix

[@carissasterling2411]

I need to be able to add more than one like to this lol

[@davidestradacontreras8646]

Yes tbh she does need a Netflix show

[@kaitlynchase2797]

Yeeeesss

[@cxneroxane9913]

Fr

[@wandasaenz810]

@netflix, are you listening?!?

[@skaisnotdead]

In many cases lobotomy's were used control how specifically women acted. A lot of people who were forced into them weren't sick, just not the "ideal" wife.

[@bonnieperry2983]

Stepford wives was my first thought too.

[@TheWelchcat]

Hysteria *sigh*

[@AngelicDiva1988]

Humans are so annoying 🙄

[@es271]

Yupp! Which was also depicted on AHS: Asylum at the end

[@summersmith8863]

Do one on shock therapy! My great grandmother had to have shock therapy treatments while she was pregnant. Everyone thought she was schizophrenic when really she had 5 kids at home and my great grandfather walked out with another woman, while she was 6 months pregnant. She then was put into a psych unit for her postpartum. She was basically told she was insane

[@peggypasson8794]

Believe it or not they still use a shock type treatment called e.c.t.

[@marlenewatkins1467]

My mother was pregnant with me when she received numerous ECT's back in the 1950's. Most of my life I have struggled with emotional regulation and quirky tics but managed to control them eventually, except when I am profoundly stressed out. I have often wondered if my prenatal ECT caused these problems.

[@caratmia97]

*I still can’t get used to two Bailey's videos per week, this feels like christmas* 😂😍💕

[@sorayamorales8467]

literally

[@emmattler6872]

LITERALLY though, Mondays and Thursdays are my favorite days of the week. 🥰

[@angelamarie9968]

She actually always did two videos a week for a while she would do just makeup videos on Saturdays. They were pretty fun too she would just do her makeup and talk about random stuff.

[@jayda.mo1]

Ikr!

[@chrisbolhuis297]

it does I love it

[@leandrahadzi858]

People don’t need to personally attack Joey. Totally unnecessary. He was instructed to do the things he’s doing. It’s fine if you don’t like it but don’t attack his character and be mean about it. Totally uncalled for.

[@josephleonard6695]

i agree. not a fan of what he did, but Joey seems like a nice guy.

[@uhhhthisismyotheraccount310]

Literally, people are acting like this show isn’t scripted-which btw isn’t a bad thing!! (And it doesn’t have to be word for word but a play by play and general ideas thing to help the episode flow) ORRR that it’s not edited, which if she truly didn’t like those bits- she could have it edited out!

[@tiffanyleraa9975]

Uhhh This Is My Other Account I believe That Bailey added those little skits of him interrupting to sort of lighten the mood on such a dark topic.

[@borderlinebrooke]

I found it refreshing honestly. Such a Adam Ruins Everything vibe. A comic relief 😅

[@moldyonionz]

Great comment! You're right about not attacking him personally. The idea itself -- I don't agree with. I feel like it's taking away from Bailey, the skit idea itself seems disrespectful to her but I am talking specifically about the idea of inserting another person. She's a powerhouse on her own. It's too much and takes away from her.

[@kimberlyprien5482]

Who else thinks Bailey Sarian needs some kind of award for getting us through the 1st part of every week???

[@AxxLAfriku]

ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear kim

[@icantthinkofaname15]

@@AxxLAfriku oooooooook???.........

[@joshuaarmijo3565]

She makes me look forward to mondays then excited to end me week with another video u know because mondays weren't enough!! I use my husbands account because he has no ads but I only have notifications on for Bailey :)

[@ayaehab]

the Monday award!

[@oliviablackburn3907]

I know. Her shoulders must be strong from carrying all our mondays.

[@sonjahesse1089]

My husband's grandmother had a frontal lobotomy done. These people are left a shell of their former selves. I cannot describe how unbelievably sad the situations was. It's heartbreaking.

[@abbigailhanson4868]

I'm LOVING the makeup free ad breaks. Girl knows how to go glam no doubt but I love her confidence in her bare face. Which is beautiful.

[@jemimahkendall6579]

Come on she still has makeup on just not as much

[@heatherlynne91]

@@jemimahkendall6579 the first ad she has zero makeup on. I've watched enough of her videos to see that she has nothing on in the first ad. Haven't gotten through the rest

[@andreagonzalvo2747]

If history was taught like this I wouldn’t get bored

[@leahvogelsimpson]

It's not, because they don't want you to know this stuff.

[@stacyeskew8987]

Rosemary Kennedy is the reason her brother Ted was a huge advocate for kids with disabilities. I remember meeting him when my son with dyslexia were in DC advocating for kids. The nicest, caring man

[@heathergabbysalomon3614]

This is awesome Something so pure that should have made the papers instead of a lot of gossip they usually post today

[@shaunahayden9296]

I was told all my life that my dyslexia isnt a disability or anything in that form with glasses n alot of after school classes i learned how to control it cursive was really bad but when i went to school they didnt make me write like that so to this day i still cant do cursive the right way but other then that reading i still do it every once in a while when im really into a book but i didnt know it was classified as that

[@MsMegsc]

Yah she was in a home wasn't she? I remember hearing about her

[@MsMegsc]

Nvm I commented before that came up lol

[@gwynning]

You should read into the whole Chappaquiddick car accident. Ted was a sketchy dude.

[@luckynumber1326]

My best friend of 10 plus years just passed in a car accident and honestly Bailey your vids are the only way I can get my mind off my own trauma so thank you for all you do

[@cokeychopper2709]

awwww:(

[@rokhayas]

love how bailey sarian can be the most "girly girl" and the most "tomboyish girl". i love this woman and i respect her work. i like her how her mind works and her accent. i like how she continues to be a better idol

[@BaileySarian]

Aw thank you so much that really means more than you know 🥲❤️

[@trexellence]

She has an accent?! What kind? Lol Maybe I have the same kind if I can’t hear it 🤣

[@sndrflrs]

What accent???

[@brittanyhottmann]

@@trexellence reminder that KZbin is a global platform lol

[@willowloe6917]

She KIND of has an accent to us from the Midwest but that’s because she sounds like she’s from Cali or something but people from other counties will hear it as an accent to them

[@AngieWade]

What was with the Joey character? That was so weird. I’m with the other commenters who offered feedback that we didn’t like that. Otherwise I enjoyed this video. Thank you for educating us.

[@Canswer666]

He’s one of the writers I think

[@breannajeffries916]

I didn’t like him either it kinda ruined the story

[@amandanance3805]

I enjoy how intimate it feels with just Bailey. Having a dude show up occasionally to say nothing really took me out of it.

[@michaelahmieleski7634]

@@amandanance3805 that's perfect wording! it's very intimate. watching bailey feels like chatting with a best friend and then her annoying little brother shows up. 🙄

[@arebu4599]

I had a history professor who would insert his own comments just like Bailey. Best professor I've ever had. Kudos to you Bailey for informing and educating people about the darkest parts of our history.

[@saschavest]

Probably the most entertaining professor for sure bc I was bored to death by all of my history instructors

[@alyssafrank6136]

Yes one of my history teachers taught like this and I loved her

[@abigailwolmarans9887]

What's up with this other guy? I enjoy the energy Bailey brings to her stories, not this guy so much... Anyway, cheers from South Africa!

[@Bxtchezluvsosa]

I agreee I listen to her to sleep and he keeps waking me up

[@Misskittyclimber]

Take that back 😂

[@Skittles-v5g]

Cheers

[@PandoraLockhart]

I know trying the interruptions were an experiment but to be honest it was really jarring and broke the flow of the episode. I really prefer when it's just Bailey.

[@SISSYBNNY]

like who this weird loud man and why he interrupting my queen with a mouthful of food 😤

[@jillydenmon9213]

me too

[@jo_ella3408]

Agreed, if it was supposed to be funny & entertaining, it was neither to me.

[@stellamary204]

I agree. It's dark here and I was listening while chilling in bed then all of a sudden this loud man is interrupting the relaxation. Probably a lovely guy but it was a bit jarring.

[@unquietgrave4444]

I like it, just don't think it should be a frequent bit. Like he should be used for examples or weirdly insightful comments and quips.

[@johnathanregister7657]

I don’t want no one to ever lose their job but Joey just isn’t it. Especially if you’re only listening to the podcast. It’s just not the vibe. I think most people watch because of Bailey’s energy. There’s a reason she built this huge following and it wasn’t because of a producer making these types of suggestions. And I got the feeling she wasn’t sure about it either.

[@Deee45]

I agree. The podcast just doesn’t have the same feel as Monday episodes. It feels so… not Bailey. It’s like she’s being used as a puppet, made to say and do what the producers think the audience wants. I prefer pure Bailey. 💜

[@MikeGud321]

You said what I was thinking

[@catherinemobbs5916]

10,000% this! At first I was thinking it was a play on mansplaining... But now I'm wondering if it was an attempt to cast a wider net. But there's a reason niches work the way they do.

[@laurenkristenabernethy8712]

100000% I was literally like why is this guy trying to hard to be funny??? It makes me cringe and I really love this and I don’t want to be complaining but if this can be removed I think it would be perfect

[@PawsandRec]

@@Deee45 that's what me and my husband said too..

[@baleshaus1]

Rose Kennedy(mother) did not want Rose to have the surgery. Joe Kennedy (father) had it done without her consent.. Rose and Joe Kennedy's relationship was never the same. She said she never forgave him. The children were her responsibility, she said she gave birth to them. Joe was to take care of the family financially. Back then men had total control over these kinds of decisions.

[@mollytsoula]

Whoa

[@crazydaisyog3984]

Yes that's true about Rose Kennedy. She loved her kids so much, she also wanted them out of politics.

[@kelsiehogan576]

Was anyone else disappointed when Bailey didn’t say “You know what would make Walter feel so much better? A lobotomy” 😅

[@lykeishabrown-flynn2208]

Yesssssssssss I thought this 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DylanRomanov]

If anyone deserved one it was him

[@nasaronaut5954]

A lobotomy would make me feel better

[@harrisonsarvis1727]

I agree lol

[@jennya9838]

Yeah, in a different circumstance I think I'd love Joey. Unfortunately I feel like his interjections just don't make sense in the context of what Bailey is talking about.

[@notarealchannel9629]

Thank you! I found them really distracting and didn't enjoy it at all. I hope she either integrates him into the show properly, or leaves him out altogether.

[@loisreese2692]

Yeah, my opinion is that Joey needs to be voted off the island with a quickness. He's super annoying.

[@mcsaism]

Agreed. Its giving late night television not dark history

[@caitiecunningham872]

Bailey's annoyance with him seems genuine too. He's got to go.

[@Thehighestindaroom223]

@@caitiecunningham872 she could’ve edited him out of the video if she really didn’t like him interrupting she would’ve edited his parts out

[@Weebslayer13]

I'm sure joey is a great guy, but if we're trying to go comedic relief vibes his mic needs to be turned down, and maybe just do that thing where the "producer" cracks jokes behind the camera, that's a little less jarring esp for the vibe this show has

[@pistashleyo5897]

🏆

[@amybrown2519]

Joey was awesome

[@lightasafeather8167]

Agreed

[@pistashleyo5897]

@@makah.19x89 tf girl? The emoji is for her saying something in a nice way unlike the other comments trashing the poor dude

[@makah.19x89]

@@pistashleyo5897 I feel asleep while listening to the story. It must have accidentally typed and sent it. I don't have any negativity towards anyone.

[@Cassiterit3]

I really don't want to be a buzzkill, you and your crew all deserve to have a great time shooting your vids. But his interjections were really unpleasant. They blew out my eardrums and didn't add anything to your presentation.

[@gentrykoda]

It fit in fine. He was acting like someone who needed a lobotomy!

[@cessy514]

@@gentrykoda lolol ironically he'd be one of the last ones to get a lobotomy since he's a white man 😅

[@danishamcclendon]

@@cessy514 lol

[@chloealkins2137]

@@cessy514awe someone is upset😂😂😂

[@becca9157]

I listened to the podcast and couldn’t tell if this was real or planned interruptions like a prank. If the guy is contracted to be there for lighting (I understand he needs a job and probably has obligations to fill) he can fulfill the contract by setting up the lights and standing outside of the recording sesh. Please.

[@Officialgaby180]

“Women, animals and homosexuals..” that’s basically all my friends 😂 Bailey you make my day with all the funny sentences you slide in such a terrifying story.

[@notarobotbird8404]

"women who needs therapy" 😂

[@princess.creep.]

I feel like Joey suddenly jumping in and speaking loudly killed the immersion of the podcast unfortunately. I play this as I paint and find it calming and fascinating. Whenever he would appear I would zoom to the screen and lose my head space, only for comments that don't really add to whatever you were saying. I understand it was possibly for comic relief but personally did not find it funny and feel like this podcast already has a perfect balance of seriousness and lightheartedness with just Bailey alone.

[@zoiebates7074]

I completely agree

[@salazarstory8555]

yea I agree

[@megmeg2241]

Yeah I was falling asleep and it happened and abrupt noises especially when I’m going asleep terrify me. Like I can’t do jump stuff my heart literally can’t take it. The address breaks alone are abrupt for me sometimes 😂😭

[@zullyburk2703]

I agree

[@kyliejorgensen4854]

Definitely agree. Like I get enough mansplaining irl I don't need it in my escapism means 😅

[@tiffanybroome6553]

I'm a huge fan of Bailey and found this topic super interesting. However, Joey's interruptions (with his mouth full of food 🤢😒) took away from this episode. Bailey is GREAT by herself and is able to be lighthearted enough when discussing heavy topics that Joey's "comic relief" is not needed.

[@jennifergonzales4230]

Agree! Each time she had me enthralled Joey would show up and ruin it. I found him obnoxious and rude to do that.

[@ThePurpleFox21]

I cannot listen to people chewing. That part of it honestly made me stop watching for a while.

[@jennifergonzales4230]

@@ThePurpleFox21 same here!

[@sarahlynnette7078]

Yah I was confused by it lol like why this dude talking?? Why didn’t they cut that out? Then I was like ohhh maybe they’re trying this as a new thing but yah Bailey is a star and we don’t need Joey but I appreciate them trying new things this one wasn’t a huge win for me personally lol

[@CourtneeCae13]

What I learned that, even as Bailey said, “the lengths society will go to fit it”….is still an issue to this day. Lobotomy was “it” before side affects were made well known to society. Just scary. Know what your getting into before you’re pressured into it.

[@trudiebrown4284]

As a relative of a lady who was labotomised in the uk, I'd like to thank you for dealing with this subject in a respectful way. She also received electric shock treatment. Horrific! I didn't realise as a child but looking at her photo now breaks my heart to see the huge dents in her temples

[@jennsteffen4830]

My great uncle had a botched lobotomy when he was just a child. They did it to cure his seizures but all it did was left him disfigured and forever stuck in the mind of a small child. He was the sweetest person though.

[@rightburst71]

That's so sad but unfortunately you cant even be upset or blame the parents, they trusted the doctors and what they felt would work best, they were dishonest about the statistics of the possible outcome and only showed those that were successful so parents of course wanted to help their children anyway they could and trust doctors to be honest about all the possible outcomes. I'm sure parents that opted to have it done on their kids ended up carrying a ton of guilt and sadness after seeing the bad outcome then later discovering the doctors lied and hid things, I'd feel awful for trusting a doctor and destroying my child.

[@jennsteffen4830]

@@rightburst71 absolutely agree. It’s just so heartbreaking to think that all of these people were just experiments against their own will.

[@priskilla5444]

Bailey is literally the girl that every girl wants as a bestie! She's that one friend that seems to get along with everyone! How?! U know, u hate that u love her so much, because there's nothing to hate her about? The kind of girl that you're intimidated to talk to, but when you finally do, you realize what REAL friendship is supposed to be like... In other words, she's such the HOMIE! 😎💜

[@joannewolftail5773]

Exactly 💯 right!!!!!

[@tatianarizktaylor1818]

Yeah, but once she’s your friend, I wouldn’t wanna share her with anyone. SHES ALL MINE!!!! 🙀💙😻

[@jillybean7825]

I support her, but the monetization is a little excessive ngl.

[@Cindy.m.R]

She's great at what she does,she sells herself very well, we all know what we yearn for in a person,she serves it up wonderfully, worthy of watching,

[@Somegirl811]

I'm fine with the ads. It's her job, and the videos are all free to us.

[@Keeryanna]

"Lou being a bottom" I can't she's so funny oml

[@WasabiDreams]

i did laugh out loud

[@diannekim8619]

This got me laughing outside too

[@mistciara]

this is heartbreaking. i feel so lonely just listening to this story i can’t even imagine poor rosemary

[@joannajamerson35]

I feel like that is just 1 of the many reasons for the Kennedy curse

[@rosynessrose6556]

It brought tears to my eyes that they treated her this way *scoff at "agreeable" Imagine if I was living in that time they would treat me the same way It's honestly mind-blowing to hear how many awful things happen in history I would like to think I'm thankful to live in THESE times

[@emilynydam4411]

@@rosynessrose6556 iiiu

[@kaylagreene7688]

“Women, homosexuals and animals… that’s like all my friends” I laughed so hard!! 😂😂 I love you Bailey! We need to besties.

[@simonmouton6487]

That was hilarious!!!

[@SueBoo2]

5:03

[@beverlypilat5079]

Absolutely perfect!

[@astridjaye6224]

Exactly 🤣

[@hannahholeman3868]

Women who need therapy* which makes it even more accurate 😂

[@jennifernorris-manning4528]

What's the point of Joey? Bailey is enjoyable all on her own.

[@Lbaz623]

1000% agreed ✨

[@andrealam1420]

@@Lbaz623 577t

[@annieanna2900]

He is like the commercial

[@derrickleehenry3400]

Yeah, he's rather annoying. Someone order that man a lobotomy, pronto.

[@vc7442]

@The Maelström YESSS!!!! Thank you !

[@mercedestillman1825]

Love this ! I did a project on lobotomies for my class in medical school and the Info Bailey has in here is basically what I had ! Sooo love that for the both us ❤️‍🔥

[@nikkismith6384]

Oh no. Joey needs to go. I don't even know what that was. Don't do that.

[@amityfarina5780]

Agreed

[@ohravenous1]

Put so eloquently! You nailed it!

[@rhipressler6798]

You put what everyone felt during his appearance into words perfectly

[@mennevh4644]

Agreed!!!

[@Cmonbilly]

i thought it was a joke... i’m pretty sure it was

[@taelorward8442]

I know why they put Joey in, they want someone to “lighten the mood” something to break it up and not be so sad or scary. But not gonna lie it’s not my favorite 😅

[@vomitthrowupandpuke496]

bailey does that herself already!! they dont need joey

[@clauditafachini6642]

He made me feel uneasy ..so better bring another guy in.

[@Krystal_Clearr]

OOOOOOOH I get it now..

[@lauralumsden6523]

Yeah, could really live without his interruptions.

[@malvinnah]

i hate it

[@teun1433]

Have considered Joeys presence as maybe a point of lightening up since the topics can be very dark ( but super interesting) but it kinda pulls ppl ( and me) out of the immersion of the story - but judging from Baileys face when he showed up such as At 24:12 tells me she didn’t expect / like it that much either

[@Thehighestindaroom223]

She could’ve edited all his parts out so i don’t think she really mind🤷🏽‍♀️

[@tairamcbride7536]

@@Thehighestindaroom223 Bailey doesn't edit Dark History. She's a host, and she posts the ones she does, but she's not the only host and they have their own editor. I believe she still edits her own videos, but even looking at the videos. You can tell that DH is professionally done

[@Thehighestindaroom223]

@@tairamcbride7536 ohhh I didn’t know that, but than she could’ve told the editors to edit that part out for her if she thought it was unnecessary and irritating. Idk tho🤷🏽‍♀️

[@Thehighestindaroom223]

@@tairamcbride7536 and I’m sure if she didn’t like him popping up in the video she would’ve made her editors edit it out tbh

[@jcatak]

Everyone must have short attention spans… LOBOTOMY! LOBOTOMIES FOR YOU ALL! 😂

[@brisadegiorgi6963]

I love Bailey so much but im not a fan of Joey. He kinda kills the mysterious-scary-gossip vibes

[@shazzari]

I just feel like “HYSTERECTOMY” should be a follow up after this particular topic

[@taylormurray9703]

YESSSS

[@NiwatoriKaiju]

That's clever, and unsettling.

[@annmarienew6125]

Hysterectomy would be great I think it's that many men had their testicles removed it would be an epidemic

[@B.z-d6e]

Thnx for mentioning it

[@najahz052583]

I am curious about that history.

[@LittlestSamurai]

Melancholia is another word for depression. My grandad's mother had severe anxiety her entire life and ended up having to have electroshock treatment for years. Having gone through regular therapy myself, part of me always wonders how she would have been had someone actually taken the time to listen to her.

[@agataandrysiak951]

What is interesting electroshock therapy i now very safe and painless it is actually helping people with severe depression now, there is a form of treatment kinda similar which includs some form of electricity (TMS therap) I did it myself for my depression and it helped a lot

[@carabeingblue4016]

@@agataandrysiak951 Helped a friend's husband great too. He was practically comatose - paralyzed with clinical depression. He "came back to life" after ECT.

[@courtl9197]

ECT literally saved my life.

[@FPwLola]

My Great Aunt had electro shock therapy and was diagnosed with Dementia and lived a long life but wasn't here and now. Makes me wonder if she had a Labotomy now...😳

[@stephainebates4020]

Right! Bailey is such a great story teller!! And stories that need to be told. I love how she’s able to add video clips & pics. some channels don’t. Love her personality & I’ve become better with my mascara.

[@sharaineroberts8537]

I just found Dark History yesterday and I am loving the way she narrates. I get so engrossed in the story because it feels like I am hearing the latest gossip.

[@ChandrikaNaveen]

Could that Joey guy not come like that again. I literally felt the lobotomy on me with his sudden voice as I was on headset 😅

[@moodsimulator7575]

I love your content, especially Dark History, but the addition of Joey to your formula is an annoying and unfunny distraction from your storytelling style. You’re my favorite KZbin channel! Thank you for making all our Mondays easier 💖✌🏻

[@JamieMowen]

I love dark history! I just hope Joey's pop in aren't going to become the norm.

[@cookiemonstersgirl5630]

Done. Gone

[@gday6633]

I agree- it messes with the flow

[@jennacampos235]

“Don’t you want to live an anxiety free life like Alice? Alice died 5 years later. Anyways” 😂😂💀

[@offtrack.2855]

Righttt I was dying how she said that 😂

[@paigejenika1485]

Do we know Alice’s cause of death? 👀

[@killerlalu1]

@@paigejenika1485 I'll try to find out more information from my mom... Alice Hammatt was our cousin; I just found that out from my mom when I mentioned her name. 💜

[@Sarah-2277]

I know I shouldn't have laughed, but I did 😅

[@hannad4444]

5 years or 5 days?

[@kinseygates4502]

Nothing makes me happier than watching Bailey on Mondays and Thursdays 🖤

[@stephaniesanders9296]

SAME!!!!!

[@blairfoster1433]

something that was left out was that Rosemary’s mother didn’t know the surgery was occurring! she didn’t find out until after the procedure :(

[@lisasmith8630]

I was actually looking to see if anyone had pointed that out before I commented on it.

[@naomilindberg2328]

So true, I guess she was very upset when she found out about it.

[@leslienold7719]

They, the Kennedy's have ties to the Special Olympics due to the lobotomy 'incident'. Keep in mind that it was the Father of the Kennedy Family that did this to his OWN daughter.

[@B.z-d6e]

I was wondering how could a mother do this to her daughter

[@raelogix]

Omfg if someone did something like that to my kids they would be unalive. That’s sickening.

[@faithmadi2991]

"They have bears as pets in Russia" gives the same energy as "They have lions as pets in Africa". Btw only the really well off have lions, most of us have zebras.

[@evenmorebeeliever123]

I cannot with this, made my day. 🤣

[@Skittles-v5g]

Haha this is so funny 😅🤣

[@beeaman3858]

Some people will think its true 🤣😂🤣😂

[@donbrackenreg2270]

I thought she said "bears in pits", as in Bearpit, as for entertainment.

[@aprilhaney4969]

😂😂

[@neonlights3035]

Talk about the radium girls! I’ve seen so many stories but I would love to hear the story from you!

[@tesstickle6462]

Yesss!!!

[@shannalater6101]

Triple yes!

[@BecauseWereWorthIt]

Please!

[@kellyfry979]

You got my vote!!!

[@sydneymarie7608]

Agreed!

[@lilith3937]

“You know what would make Walters feel better!” Me: *a lobotomy* Bailey: an apology tour!

[@af5725]

😄

[@ambershines3638]

Lol same frickin thought. I was waiting for her to say..A LOBOTOMY!!

[@Dusty_Den]

Same!

[@cali.girllivinnnevada8]

Wow you wrote almost word for word the same comment I did! 🤯🤣

[@cali.girllivinnnevada8]

Great minds & all of that! 😉

[@casandraarthur3278]

“I don’t know why he’s here” girl me too , tf get him ouuuttt 🤢🤢🤢

[@MikeGud321]

Lol 😂

[@pomegranteappleson1628]

I heard Rosemary’s mother didn’t even know about the surgery until after it happened. She was out of town and came back to her daughter like this.

[@theonlydeeyouwant]

Whoever produces this needs to just let you do your thing and not try to do these corny sketches. You got where you are by being yourself and that’s what we love. 🥰

[@sofialorettahochstrasser6902]

This a 1000000 times this.

[@antoinettemackey9777]

It’s soo annoying

[@prettygirlpandora]

I totally agree, can't stress this enough.. the gimmick is annoying & not funny.

[@samanthacurtis6162]

Stop the interupters. This was so interesting..thank you

[@squeekydinky]

I disagree. Dark History is something new, and it's fun to try new things! Dark History might benefit with some additional characters you either love or hate.

[@priscilla_annettexx3883]

Bailey: thank you Joey for the unnecessary commentary no one asked for Me: SAMEEEE

[@shaunhilder7460]

Is this the marshmellow eating bloke?

[@23rainbowroses13]

I don’t want Joey to come back. Bailey serves the comedic relief enough , don’t let him come back

[@priscilla_annettexx3883]

@@23rainbowroses13 I didn’t even think he was funny his little sexist jokes that were thrown in killed my vibe! 🙄Bailey is funnier alone.

[@334...4]

@Death Omen it's still annoying, and way too abrupt

[@vianneyflores3584]

Idk who’s pushing these weird interruptions, but I feel there’s no need to experiment with your episodes. You got here as just Bailey and I prefer just Bailey. That guy was so NOT funny and actually irritating and annoying.

[@gentrykoda]

Like someone who needed a lobotomy, right?

[@Kadamim]

I am loving these Dark History series. Will you be interested in doing an episode of Rosemary Kennedy who was forced have a lobotomy.

[@rugby846]

love that the kennedys were concerned about their single daughter sleeping around but not about their married son doing it *eyeroll x10000*. Also, i believe her father requested rosemary get the lobotomy without the mother knowing until afterwards.:(

[@abbeyboeckman6315]

I’d have been a widow within hours if my hubs did that.

[@etrnluv]

Joe Kennedy was well know for his womanizing to put it mildly and encouraged his boys to do likewise and praised them for it. Trying to maintain a sterling image and reputation because they were Kennedy's is laughable and absurd. I had no idea about poor Rosemary though. I knew she was disabled but never knew the Dark History behind it! Talk about not being allowed to join the boys club! Smh 😒

[@andreafierro2846]

So sad 😞!

[@megcerwin5728]

That is true. Joseph Kennedy had Rosemary lobotomized when his wife was out of town. She came home to that shitshow.

[@darlingdeb7010]

Ugh. The Kennedys were/are toxic

[@cailin5309]

I don’t know what it is, but I could listen to you explain the history of a gumball for an hour and probably be thoroughly entertained. You have found your calling!

[@nancybradberry3770]

Yesss!!! She could do a spinoff Podcast called "Sweet History" Lol

[@blammela]

I love Bailey. And I’m super proud of the expansion into Dark History. I get the feeling the extra production makes her uncomfortable. It feels like Bailey trying to “play”/ act as Bailey rather than it being her casual self like on M4. I assume these may also be written by more people with much more external input to the production so I can understand why. Hope you relax and find your groove lady ❤️

[@camb3661]

Yea i notice she speaks differently here, on Mondays she sounds so natural like just talking to a friend which is why I like it so much. Here she doesn't sound like that

[@amberlittle2945]

My husband noticed that too. He listens to the videos when I'm watching

[@samanthabright1376]

It took me watching EVERY M4 to finally have to listed to dark history. Some are great but it is VERY different. The netflix series is even less "her". She hasn't posted a new monday upload in almost 2 months😔 I miss that Bailey 😕🙇‍♀️💜

[@gasunflower23]

She looked so irritated by Joey's interruption. I mean really, the look on her face IS Dark History 😂

[@patriciagellin2569]

My mother was a psychiatric nurse and told me about lobotomies years ago and how harmful they were. She despised the Kennedys and noted Rosemary as one of the reasons. Love your videos.

[@Incompetences]

As someone with severe migraines, epilepsy and seizures due to Arnold Chiari Malformation (that I've had brain surgery for), thank you for talking about this, Bailey. I cannot even begin to think about how horrifying my life would be if I'd been forced to live in the past, where it was common to force women with pain into lobotomies. It's absolutely humbling to think just how far we've come, but it also reminds me of just how much further we still have to overcome a lot of stereotypes and misconceptions in the current world.

[@honigfuchs111]

I hope the surgery helped you and you're (at least a little) better now💗

[@Venomousvoodoo]

My mama had Arnold chiari with syringomyelia, she passed away dec 2019 due to COPD complications. But I remember her being diagnosed. She received a shunt to drain fluid from the cyst putting pressure on her brain. I hope your doing well. Sorry to rant, but it's not everyday I see someone who also has Chiari.

[@mirandamuth7509]

“Couldn’t even make a salad without have a complete meltdown…” I felt that lol! Quick edit. I’m sure Joey is a nice guy… but I’m going to have to go w the rest of Baileys cult and say Joeys interventions need to not. 🤷🏻‍♀️ It ruined it for me. I just felt myself getting irritated AF. I’ve always loved Bailey and she doesn’t need help. Her face. Was my face. Every time he showed up.

[@mhapich]

Perfectly put - he was really irritating AF. But yeah. As a person he’s probably a nice guy.

[@mirandakh17]

YES!

[@MikeyGryder]

I'm sure he's nice, but yeah I agree. I actually had to check my phone to make sure youtube didn't glitch out and send me to another video the first time he appeared.

[@Amysbiblereads]

Yeah after the first time I had an inkling it wouldn’t be the last so I was on edge and couldn’t concentrate properly incase he popped up again.. which he did 🤦‍♀️

[@catherinemobbs5916]

@@MikeyGryder same 🤣🙌

[@SariSmithArt]

Okay so I worked at a state hospital in Warren, PA and they had this room in a building on the grounds where they would do crazy things to these patients that were "crazy” and there were student desks all around the table for students to observe these procedures. They closed the building down, but I've gone up there and the floors are still stained red from the blood. They had jars of body parts and baby fetuses in formaldehyde in another room...I can't imagine the things some of the patients went through back in the day. And you could literally just get dropped off there for a lifetime stay if your family or husband didn't want to deal with you and you weren't truly crazy either. They would slam these people with meds that turned them into completely different people with adverse effects that are just horrible.

[@M123Xoxo]

Is today really better though? Now these people, instead of being cared for in a hospital, are left to be homeless and die in the gutter. The pendulum has swung too far.

[@HonestnTrustworthy]

Walter sounds like he needed a Lobotomy for his delusions.

[@akumamakima2280]

Classic narcissist

[@ladyheart308]

He does haha 😂

[@kerrimunday5170]

This is an awesome comment lol

[@HonestnTrustworthy]

@@kerrimunday5170 thank you 💞

[@JRmidwife]

I don't know who's idea "Joey" is but his interrupting ruins the show. Please keep what works and that is: Bailey Sarian only!

[@kristengrimm7340]

Who is he exactly? I know it said "lighting guy." Is he really the "lighting guy?"

[@Dogz_Gang]

Agreed 💯! I'm in the comment section to see if anyone else thought the same thing.

[@cheepymcpeepy]

@@kristengrimm7340 One of the writers far as I can tell

[@kristengrimm7340]

@@cheepymcpeepy ahh, thank you 😊

[@catmomlavender3036]

@@kristengrimm7340 I actually think he is one of the writers, at the end they listed the writers , and one of the writers has the first name Joey. But idk for sure

[@msr1183]

Joey kept on waking me up from my slumber. I love Baileys soothing voice, helps me wind at the end of the night, Joey on the other hand, heightened my anxiety.

[@erica1529]

I heard there’s a procedure for that

[@msr1183]

@@erica1529 lol same, looking into it.

[@angelaphillips1731]

Same girl, same.

[@lovenaturalhair1]

I really want you to do one on the “Father of Gynecology” 😳

[@nicolanewton1084]

It’s deeply disturbing that as Bailey was explaining the desired affects I was like, I would totally be sold on this. To not have my mind constantly like this with one quick easy surgery sounds amazing and I can totally see why so many did it. Plus Bailey could sell anything lol

[@ericadoglady4968]

Loving these episodes Bailey. You seemed way more settled into yourself this one - your own jokes rather than bad ones written for you. But that Joey guy, nay nay girl, he gots to go!

[@shaniadolter9839]

Bailey when will you do a podcast on the native Americans / indigenous ppl of North America and all the horrors they went through 🧡🧡🧡please we need some recognition and ppl to learn the horrors of building this country

[@hunnypie1873]

This would be a great topic to address 💕

[@ashleyhintze2678]

She did mention doing a podcast on the Trail of Tears

[@Xochiquetzal_xo]

🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

[@darlapoole7181]

Agreed!

[@maggieannvladimirsky877]

I so agree!

[@nataliebrown3839]

"you know when you see a guy who has like four hairs...." LOL I love her analogies. and she's just the best story teller!

[@rockwellthegreat7118]

When the lighting guy came in.... I’m sure he’s funny and all but it was uncomfy and felt a bit inauthentic... I’m sorry I love you so much and very happy you’re getting a professional team. But I love your chill demeanor and vibe. I think he could be involved in the future if he were to show the chill side of him. I’m trying to be more thoughtful and don’t mean to criticize.

[@erinredfox5131]

The movie Sucker Punch featured the main character going through a lobotomy and the fantasy world she created. Very interesting to know more of the history of this controversial method of control. Thank you, Bailey!

[@echogrey7029]

Look up Rose Kennedy. She got a Lobotomy.

[@erinredfox5131]

@@echogrey7029 she was one of the first people Bailey talked about in the video/podcast. Poor girl!

[@ferisera]

I have to add to the, "Did not like or enjoy Joey The Light Guy" interruptions. It was... I mean, a rude man loudly and crudely talking over the host? That is never funny. I was really looking forward to Bailey covering the topic, but I wanted to turn this off because he kept appearing. It's a testament to Bailey that I stayed.

[@lilt6517]

Im the 100th like yay

[@josephleonard6695]

She reacted on Instagram. It was experimental. I think she will listen to us.

[@cokeychopper2709]

Bro what..

[@strawberrycow7087]

I was filling up my Mop bucket and when I heard it I was so confused I had to rewind it

[@christina6586]

Twice is not keep appearing

[@kelseygilbert6302]

I am obsessed with these dark history!! Bailey makes anything interesting im currently binge watching them all 👀

[@elizabethgalvan9766]

The Rosemary Kennedy sister was done at the DeJarnette Sanitarium. It’s in my home town, it’s a huge set of abandoned buildings, they have been condemned but you can still sneak in. It’s really creepy. Everything has been left where it was the day it closed, the drawings on the walls and writing makes you want to cry seeing that someone was trying to communicate but was no longer able to.

[@Lorenzo12887]

That's so creepy but very sad too ☹

[@breannajeffries916]

Wasn’t a fan of the Joey guy kinda ruined the mood of the story. I love watching all your videos and you do a great job on your own.

[@lauraellerman9443]

Also didn’t appreciate what he said

[@klynne8410]

Kinda felt the same.

[@La_cabezutti]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@tamarapaquette5204]

He needs to stay in his lane.

[@bdr5207]

Agreed

[@CuppaTeeh]

Bailey’s Sarcasm is like fresh coffee in the morning. Dark, strong, and I love it 🥺

[@kiarasimone123]

When she opened the book and the pages were blank I died laughing but I loved it😂

[@ryanfoxx3142]

I wasn't a huge fan of the joey cut ins tbh. baileys story telling is already immersive and funny she doesn't need it. it really distracted from what she was saying and felt disruptive. if he added in valuable tidbits and fun facts I'd appreciate the cut ins more but, the corny jokes... were a choice.

[@EstelleLaufeia]

I have to agree with you there.

[@amethyst1826]

Before Joey popped up you kind of had the feeling Bailey was all by herself, well I did, and he has spoiled that for me now!

[@stacyrussell460]

What happened to Rosemary Kennedy was simply tragic. As if that wasn't bad enough, most of her family basically forgot about her & wouldn't even talk about her for many years.

[@MissBee13]

Of all people, Teddy was the one who seriously was there for her the most, after Eunice.

[@kennedysmith4689]

Not a huge fan of the lighting guys add in moments. Bailey doesn’t need the extra help! She’s the Queen!

[@georgiamold5135]

I'm with you on this. Absolutely love the gossipy history lesson vibe and love the podcast but I just found his little cameos a bit jarring...

[@Idle.Homestead.]

Don't like him either

[@Atttttt123]

Agree! Im so glad I’m not the only one! It’s important we let Bailey know and support her wonderful self 💗

[@eddied.5156]

I was wondering if that's another podcaster or KZbinr trying to do some cross promotion.

[@Cherry-uh2gp]

Isn't he her husband?

[@Hunter_IRL]

We love hanging with Bailey. So chilled and real.

[@mollypearce5572]

Wow, I can’t believe people are being so incredibly rude about Joey. Obviously it was a bit of fun 🤷‍♀️ I think sometimes people forget that there is a human on the other side. Loved this dark history episode ❤️

[@ShadowCat-3]

Bailey is human? I thought she was an alien Angel goddess sent from another dimension to bless us mere mortals. 😝😁

[@ShadowCat-3]

But I totally agree...people need to lighten up a bit. Jeez.

[@jettatrujillo3462]

I agree!

[@hanr7488]

People are allowed to not think he’s funny and voice their opinions before he’s a regular on the podcast lol

[@dontgetjazzywithit]

@@hanr7488 there’s a difference between voicing opinions and being unnecessarily mean behind a screen. Children literally die bc of cyberbullying. People can voice their opinions and not be gross. You know it’s bad if Bailey has to make a public statement about how terrible people are being.

[@truckarttinbox9644]

love this podcast and love you bailey, don't appreciate the annoying lighting guy for "comedic relief" like really against the idea I'm sorry

[@diannespruill5614]

He scared me when he popped up

[@melodylamon2221]

Exactly what I thought.

[@pburk1965]

Yeah, he was way not funny. Just annoying.

[@christalmccollim]

Bailey > Joey I don't know who is writing the scripts, but they need to just let Bailey do Bailey. We're all here for her.

[@taylordouglas8830]

Joey, Bailey, michael and Jed. So it makes sense that Joey wrote himself into it

[@briamichelle5911]

That’s rude af.

[@stacieelias3501]

She obviously wanted that to happen it’s part of her show changing it up a little bit yea the loudness is shocking due to her setting so yea there’s nothing wrong with a change up every now and then if she didn’t want it she wouldn’t have it in her video

[@cookingwithtoomuchgarlic1187]

Yeah I totally agree. Over production is not a positive thing. I really enjoy the set and lighting they set up. The producers should not mess with anything else, she is already prefect! 💕

[@spaceycasey2225]

She even said that SHE was the one trying it out. She could've said no but she liked it so she kept it🤣🤣

[@quenn3368]

I SWEAR TO LIFE THE LIGHTING GUY'S ENERGY JUST SCARES ME 😭😭😭

[@amykat75]

Please, no more Joey. Annoying so much I almost turned it off and let Ratched be my lobotomy source.

[@pishangemas]

Ahhaha lol