Epic Black Powder ACW starter sets

[@BrettyUK]

I swear I spend a good period of these videos listening along while perusing Kaisers book shelves looking for something to get for myself 😂

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

I keep thinking I should move them around form time to time, check if people notice.

[@BrettyUK]

A random spot the difference. I would be a great quiz question

[@AdamPriestleyWargaming]

Reading list?

[@MiniatureRealms]

Great review, I love these extended ones with the history chatter as context. Those improved starters are really good, I can tell by the uplift in views to my own old Epic ACW videos that they've snagged some new players with them.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Are you playing Black Powder with it? I think there is a real hunger for Black Powder videos out there.

[@Kevin.Mitchell]

Very interesting unboxing(s) - that's a lot of legs to paint!

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

It really is! I just need to find some schmuk to do it, I mean, erm commission painter!

[@dr.v645]

I have been enjoying the Epic scale Black Powered Civil War line. I am considering expanding into their Waterloo line as well. An entire army fits in a small box and can be played on a much smaller table.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

The ACW standard is 5 stands to the unit, and everyone fights in lines, you might have more of a space problem.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Ignore my previous comment! You already do ACW I now realise... the Napoleonic units are generally a bit smaller I think, only 4 stands.

[@andrewwilson4975]

Thanks for the great review gentleman. If I was going to get into the ACW Epic I would not paint anything which now makes me think that it is possible!

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Make sure you buy the two player sets, or single boxes, the Guts & Glory one player is all grey only. The two player set is in both colours.

[@Aquadoc1962]

I'm a Gettysburg Day 1 person too! The battle on Day 1 was the 'Battle of Gettysburg,' which Lee won. July 2nd and 3rd was the 'Battle for Cemetery Ridge.' Lee did not win that. The question would be 'what were Lee's strategies for the following day(s). I'm seeing a Seminary Ridge defense for Day 2 and hope for a Union assault Then, on Day 3 set up a good series of defensive lines along the pike, back up to the gap, all the while causing Union casualties, then back down the Valley with all the plundered goodies and uh .... oh yeah, the casualty wagons (shhh!) Net result? A win for the Confederacy! Hoorah for Dixie!

[@andysykes4328]

Invested in the starter set and Sarissa buildings last year. Purchased all my Cavalty from Kallistra ACW range which is very compatible. Planning to use with Fire & Fury. Shop around you can find the starter set significantly reduced.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Very nice! My Minis are Kallistra too - but if I was starting from scratch I would definitely have gone with this.

[@BrushQuill]

A great look into the box guys. Really interesting to watch

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Thanks mate.

[@TheEccentricMan]

I'm slowly working my way through the big box but doing it solely as Union, John from Lost ark Games is doing the same for the Confederates. We are going with 3 bases to a regiment as we thought the footprint of 5 bases was too big. Great unboxing with some interesting facts about Gettysburg.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Yeah, I can see what you mean, 3 bases per Regiment is more manageable.

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

Man o man, I was going back and forth on these and ultimately decided not to, but dang, they are cool.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

You have a long enough list of targets for this year Tom, hold your horses sir!

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

@@ModellingforAdvantage yep. Exactly

[@Gamerswithcoffee]

750 figures ! Wow. Nice video gentlemen

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Thanks 👍 2,000 in the 2 player set!

[@steveharris5159]

Nice review, I have the original set and like many players use 3 bases for a regular sized Regiment which brings the frontage down to 18cm much more usable on a 6x4 table.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Yeah, 3 bases seems much more manageable.

[@scubawi]

The Louisiana Tigers were definitely special. They were hard fighting, hard drinking men from New Orleans. Many were Irish and German immigrants who worked on the wharf. They had a reputation of fighting amongst themselves almost as much as they fought the Yankees.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Sound like a lovely bunch of chaps!

[@jonathanowen9917]

Great unboxing video! I think that Warlord has done a pretty good job. That said, I really wish that Warlord would upgrade the figures to give them more historical detail (eg. uniform regiments wearing kepis, Hardee hats, havelocks, or campaign caps for Union, also some in great coats would be nice; unique sets of generals for the Eastern, Western, and Trans-Mississippi theaters; a uniform sprue and a ragged sprue for Confederate, with varied headgear, holes and patches on the uniforms, and some men being barefoot; earthworks, fortifications, and siege guns for Fort Sumter, Forts Henry and Donelson, Yorktown and Williamsburg, Vicksburg, Fort Wagner, Petersburg, Fort Fisher; clusters of houses and buildings that can represent more urban settings like Fredericksburg, Vicksburg, New Orleans, Sharpsburg, Gettysburg, Washington DC, Richmond, Petersburg, Atlanta; some gunboats; a large round base scene for Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis each with an entourage visiting the front; flag sheets for each theater). Painting and basing 750-2,000 soldiers is an enormous task! They’ll look impressive on the table once they’re finished.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

I think it would be a long time before you see that lot in plastic... one day maybe.

[@mattcappelli5822]

As always, great video. Always appreciate the history discussed in these. Way better than looking at sprues. I love the idea of these small scale figures, but I find them far more tedious to paint. I lost all interest in the Napoleonic set since they take me twice as long to paint three bases of figures

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Yeah, the sets can be quiet overwhelming as well with the scale of it. As in, the quanitity.

[@someguyinatshirt2624]

I found it daunting as well until I exchanged excellence for expediency. Going to contrast and skipping all of the fine detail changed the game for me. Rifles are just brown. Skin color over faces and beards. Straps are colored in with shirts. Canteens, knives ect are painted brown along with shoes. Made a world of difference in completion. And at that scale it still looks wonderful. Contrast paints are key.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

@@someguyinatshirt2624 I think this is the only way most people are ever gonna get through a set like this.

[@leonleese4919]

There was a Field Column which I think was a column of companies which was quite a deep formation with 10 companies to a Battalion therefore 20 ranks deep. In epic scale it will be 5 companies marching in 1 base wide and 10 ranks deep. Best to refer to the reenactment groups to be sure..

[@vonketteringham]

I always seem to be off pace Collect 15mm acw but sell it off as there were no decent rules, Black powder then gets released. Restart acw in 28mm, Epic scale is then released!😫

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

I did a similar thing, painted up about 10 regiments of Kallistra metals then this series was announced. Lovely kits though.

[@andrewwilson4975]

You should consider the old Johnny Reb rules from the 80s

[@e-4airman124]

i love reading the titles of the books behind you!😘

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

I really should change them form time to time, keep people interested

[@carlclink9993]

The fences your referring to are called worm fences. There were 5 or 6 rails high with a cross at the ends with another rail places on top. They were built Horse high and hog tight. Meaning a horse can’t go over it and a hog can’t go through it. They are very sturdy.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Thanks

[@dmwiggy7661]

I have the launch box but I might add the Gettysburg set

[@austinvickymoore3656]

I have always loved miniatures and wanted to get into playing/painting them just to paint them... but with one of these sets I could easily play by myself..... plenty of minis to paint come in this box... think I might sweet talk the wife now 😂

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

You can do it mate, just hide it ;)

[@austinvickymoore3656]

Also the barns that come with these sets my house is actually shaped like it so it's very fitting here in Southern US

[@hamsteronthepaintingtable6465]

Free scenary i Wish 🤣 Good review guys 👍

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Well maybe not free, but you know what I mean, some scenery in starter sets I always approve of.

[@hamsteronthepaintingtable6465]

@@ModellingforAdvantage defo, always good to get the full monty😉👍🏻

[@leonleese4919]

I’m very tempted to buy these, because as a solo player I have to provide both the grey and the blue. With a large regiment being 5 bases (300mm in line where in 28mm an 8 base regiment would be 320mm) Therefore the ground scale of the 13mm buildings would perhaps be closer to the ground scale of the game

[@loganoldon8924]

I know after ww2 it was common for the house to be white with the barb being red. And then later on as more space was needed for sheds to be made out of galvanized steel. So they were a strong natural grey

[@nikolaistarkweather5313]

We've been playing quite nice games of 2 forces from guts and glory. The forces are small and we are playing on half size tables, but it's been quite nice for introductory games.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Nice to know it is a decent enough start game.

[@nikolaistarkweather5313]

@@ModellingforAdvantage I will say we play with smaller regiments. 3 for inf, 2 for cav, 2 for 6 gun artillery. Using everything in the box we get good opposing forces. That said. For more variety, I've just ordered Gettysburg.

[@taylorshorey4411]

Man I just love you gents. Sniffing the new book!!! You won me over with that good sir

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Often the best part.

[@flowerknight4879]

Your videos always give me big grin, keep it up!

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Glad you like them!

[@Napoleon2513]

Thank you for making this video because i thought the guts and glory miniatures were blue and grey too, but you unboxing it showed me it wasn’t 😂😂

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Glad to help - the big box has mixed, but not the Guts & Glory one.

[@alexvids9232]

Bought the Gettysburg rn for $145. My son wanted $15 generic ones. Got him these.

[@melonboi927]

As an American from the south I can say but those styles of Barnes along with the fencing are somewhat iconic but more so in the eastern part of the US

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Eastern as in, the main theatre of the war? Sounds like a good fit.

[@melonboi927]

@@ModellingforAdvantage yeah the Eastern theater for the most part, when you travel through modern-day Tennessee you still see lots of those fences I've never been to the Virginia's but I imagine that would be the same

[@michaellee9975]

3 inch Whitworth.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

That the rifled canon? Sounds familiar.

[@michaellee9975]

@@ModellingforAdvantage Correct..

[@giantorres3352]

I think these could work great for the war of the triple alliance.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Possibly, I honestly know almost nothing about that conflict sadly.

[@barkeater123]

The gettysburg set is only in one size? Do they make different mm sizes for the gettysburg set?

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Yeah, they make a smaller set aimed at a single players force.

[@leonleese4919]

About the French “Very pretty. But can they fight?”

[@alans6459]

Can this be played on a 4x6 table?

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Of course. It would be better on a bigger table. I'm just short on space in my spare room where we film.

[@jackasdf5]

good video

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Thanks

[@15mmGustavus]

For those interested Ken Burns Civil War docco is floating around on KZbin

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Great series.

[@e-4airman124]

all Union except Zouves had kepi hats Warlords should make that change

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Maybe one day, I know those sprues cost them a lot to make so they went for this half way house option. It it sub optimal, for sure.

[@BenFaffler]

I know that at least the Iron brigade wore black hats.

[@mike5d1]

If you use the correct loading procedure a man can load and fire a Civil war era rifled musket just as fast as he could load a smoothbore musket.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Interesting.

[@leonleese4919]

There was more than one confederate general that prevaricated over orders and failed to advance Lee may well have been victorious on day 1.

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

History is full of potentialities for sure.

[@timothysmith6211]

I love hail Caesar and have been looking at this but it just seems so bland. The topic is awesome but its basically all infantry , and both sides are exactly the same. Its more like a game of checkers than chess. Other than leaders there doesn't seem to be much variety to any of it, or am i missing something?

[@ModellingforAdvantage]

Quality and unit sizes in actual orders of battle are wildly varied. I mean you could say the same about Napoleonics - yeah the cav can fight each other, but are largely useless against formed infantry once the battle reaches this scale.

[@timothysmith6211]

@ to be fair I have further researched these rules and purchased glory hallelujah since I made those comment. I am pleasantly surprised at its options and I am moving forward with getting the starter set. Thank you for taking the time to do this video and responding.

[@ccreasner2034]

Union models are basically the same as the confederate models which was very disappointing. For the price you would think they could at least make two different molds that are accurate for the Federal side.