What do you think about using the non all in sizing for bluff efficiency? Would you still expect him to fold what he claimed he had?
@legendiary3094Ай бұрын
Odds would say if he got a better price he calling his “straight” but the jam was probably too much. Also at the time he’s only has 800$ of his money on that pot when it becomes 2100 to call so
@thomastomasello2705Ай бұрын
This is a donation bluff on the river most of the time. Guy repped pair+ draws at minimum from flop and almost everything is snapping off any river bet. Spot sucks but could be made easier with smaller flop bet. Villain bet too small on turn. The check by him on river made this verrrrrrrry strange. Villain shouldve led 1/3 to 1/2 pot on river and expect to be good when called some of the time. This is such a weird hand cuz both players didnt play it great. By the river they r just clickin buttons.
@danielmeuler2877Ай бұрын
If I folded a flush here (I most likely wouldn't) I would have said I had a lower hand. I will also do the opposite sometimes and say I had a better hand. Moral of the story, unless you see the cards, it's all just empty words.
@notallowed337Ай бұрын
Yep😂
@5saMan6Ай бұрын
Words are wind
@McBluffinsАй бұрын
I’d almost always check flop back with TT. Played as is, calling checkraise and halfpot turn bet makes sense-would definitely fire a hefty bet ($1200 or so) if diamond falls on river and villain checks. Board pairing diamond is even better. Doubtful villain is trapping river. I’d be betting AA and KK for value which would be balanced against missed draws.
@HoutenaarАй бұрын
Against the fish I would check or small bet
@EllieBanks333Ай бұрын
Hero played the hand just fine. I do think his river bluff was large, actually looks a bit bluffy. It did work out though. Not sure I buy villains reveal though, his sizing should be much larger with a straight here. Now I think it's fun for me to put something in the comment that certain people will find crazy. I could see folding on the flop here. Hero will very rarely hit the turn & when he does it will often bring in diamonds or if he hits a ten - it puts a 4 straight on the board. This will drive people crazy because "how could you ever flop an open ended straight draw & fold??""
@pot_kivach160Ай бұрын
I'd fold flop without much hesitation (V's profile dependant). R: it's a flush draw only the hand that I beat here. In which case my open ender has 6 outs only. Strange H never said profile of V?? . Flop and river bets were overbets!?? I don't think that a pro would've missed to pick these up.
@siIverspawnАй бұрын
I'd definitely fold the flop. I'm not confident in declaring that calling is negative EV, but at best it's mildly positive EV with huge variance. If you're an extremely strong player with a large bankroll, maybe this call is correct. But if you're on a downswing, playing like this seems very hard to justify. And I'm not convinced it's even +EV in the first place.
@chrisowen3878Ай бұрын
I figure if we are betting the river for value against hands like Qx or QJ, we probably don't want to go much more than $700 to get a call. So if we want to get those hands to fold, I would suspect $1k would be the magic number
@pugsnhogzАй бұрын
1. Check back flop Sure we can bet at some frequency but I like check a lot more most of the time. Villain has a ton of Qx/Jx, why bloat the pot and reopen action. Peel IP and evaluate
@thomastomasello2705Ай бұрын
if you check flop your range is capped cuz ur never checking nuts being this deep. villain is unlikely to raise seeing that you have 2 tens making straight unlikely and probably needs 2 pair minimum and probably at least a set to raise if they r on tighter side. bet 1/3 to 1/2 pot on flop and if raised it shouldnt be a bad price to call n reevaluate turn
@pugsnhogzАй бұрын
@@thomastomasello2705 that sounds fine too, I still don’t think it’s so bad to check sometimes. I mix in these spots depending on player notes/reads, personally.
@tylerabbott7108Ай бұрын
The small blond will have a lot of QJ and K10 in range here right? I’m not too sure about the immediate c bet on the flop followed by a call? What is hero representing? AX diamonds? KQ? QQ? JJ? AQ? Don’t know id fold to the flop raise tbh. Just doesn’t seem like a good continue at all in my opinion villian will have all strong hands that easily call down and hero can’t really represent a Q9 or J9 all that easy? I don’t know seems like a thin bluff to me
@moneyman1110Ай бұрын
Heroes enthusiasm is 🔥
@aliharoon5623Ай бұрын
I wonder if hero called an audible and switched the hero and the villain in this hand, going by his tone 😂
@MichaelFoucault-u4hАй бұрын
You never know what's going on in his life so judging his enthusiasm like who cares
@jacobbirkenfeld9261Ай бұрын
My man calling in from the local T-swift concert 🙄
@johnny8309Ай бұрын
In this hand its a great bluff spot because likely villain hand on QJ 2 pair is also counterfeit by Aces and Kings. Regarding the sizing, I prefer putting max presure on weaker players and making the middling sizing on better players. On the can you make K10 hand fold its completely player dependent, a good player can fold that straight but many Rec's cannot, people give players too much credit and Im not trying to make that miracle play. Often I exagerate the hand I folded when I think they had nit to needle them.
@nolimitpokerАй бұрын
Poor range construction on flop just compounds mistake after mistake. Why would you ever size up 1010 and put that in your big size bluffs. Use a10 small pp or diamonds in your big size. You sized up flop and get checkraise bye a passive spot. Flops just a snap fold
@pugsnhogzАй бұрын
2. Love the river bluff and size seems fine to me!
@pot_kivach160Ай бұрын
you should go pro.
@pugsnhogzАй бұрын
@@pot_kivach160 okay, back me? :D
@skelorbonorАй бұрын
Brotha is reusing the thumbnails💰💰💰💰💰
@brianpotter2812Ай бұрын
Hmmm. Betting to setup a bluff on future streets. Going to have to remember this one!
@pot_kivach160Ай бұрын
who did that?
@jakecooper5855Ай бұрын
This was a hard one to get through. The caller must have been in a really bad mood or extremely nervous from the beginning because he sounds like a complete douche. He did get a bit better by the end at least.
@MichaelFoucault-u4hАй бұрын
Sounds like he's just frustrated by his run bad
@Mathemagical55Ай бұрын
Graham's a regular caller and always brings some good hands. It's hard to be chipper when you're on a downswing.
@maxs2047Ай бұрын
Why not just bet pot on the river in hopes to fold out the QJ and Straights?
@the_jeremiahАй бұрын
In most low stakes games a Half pot bet often just a secon pair or single pair holding. Villian's bet on the Turn screams one pair.
@IshbikesАй бұрын
Right? Low stakes is a completely different game
@deanalbertson7203Ай бұрын
I think he had AQ.
@daithi1966Ай бұрын
The caller sounds like he is struggling not to fall asleep.
@benbenxu711Ай бұрын
I didn't go see the end before write this comment. a simple think that oop check raised the flop,beted half trun,checked the river with diamand 9, i think oop really had flush complete,but why he checked the river,one idea is that he was afraid pair 99 on the board, because ip could had full house with QQ JJ,so oop went check wanted to show down, i agree ip jam the river as bluff, because one pair was already behind oop
@pot_kivach160Ай бұрын
A flush does not check river here. He played it all the way for this card, and letting it go just like that defeats the purpose of his play. Particularly not an "A" high flush.
@hypergenex1419Ай бұрын
I‘d never trust someone that folds their hand face down but 10/8 or even K/10 does sound reasonable since there are 2 diamonds and many Potential action killing cards. Idk correct me if i am wrong
@pot_kivach160Ай бұрын
look: one who was called on x/r flop, DOES NOT bet weak turn in hope opponent would've folded. So: V most likely had a pair with straight draw. (AQ/AT). That's it. He bet turn just to maintain his "hand dominance". Obviously, V was not interested in river whatsoever.
@guybrushthreepwood8174Ай бұрын
If you're at a table with three pros, 3 decent recs and only 1 truly bad player is that game still worth sitting in?
@MarkNolan-v9tАй бұрын
No
@authenticallysuperficial9874Ай бұрын
Are you the truly bad one?
@guybrushthreepwood8174Ай бұрын
@@authenticallysuperficial9874 no, I would be a decent rec. some people say "as long as there is at least ONE player worse than you, its a good game". I'm thinking that in that game I described, I'm gonna get preyed upon by those 3 pros more than i will be able take advantage of the one player that is noticeably worse than me.
@mdg4347Ай бұрын
I like the jam. Guy's gonna have a hard time, sweating. Whatever non boat or non flush he has.
@mrhumble2937Ай бұрын
Never see that at 1/3. I fold too with flush and paired board.
@InnerEngineer999Ай бұрын
Firstistake ever heard bart make when he said tt was drawing to nuts on qj9 flop or am I confused
@revbenballАй бұрын
Whar do you mean by a spot player?
@lvbestmattress3973Ай бұрын
It means it's a employee of the poker room trying to keep the table open for short tables
@MarkNolan-v9tАй бұрын
Thanks. I live in Europe. I play online so never heard this term
@moaf2padventures757Ай бұрын
it just means a very weak player that the better players want to play pots with.
@moaf2padventures757Ай бұрын
@@lvbestmattress3973 no that would be a prop.
@Mathemagical55Ай бұрын
It just means a fish. The "spot" in the game means the player everyone is trying to win money from.
@Spinning-WinningАй бұрын
Fancy play syndrome.. check back flop,, call turn,, call or fold river based on in game dynamics
@S3CONDGLANCEАй бұрын
There is some merit to this
@HoutenaarАй бұрын
I hate the way he played this tbh
@jornbeleke1175Ай бұрын
How is a straight a huge fold on that Board? I'm snapfolding in villains spot
@skylertaylor7283Ай бұрын
Where do you play please let me know so I can get you to fold to monsters under the bed
@jornbeleke1175Ай бұрын
It's a paired board and the flush gets there. A straight is a marginal bluffcatcher at best. With no flush and boat blockers, this call would burn money, especially in live poker where barely anyone bluffs rivers for huge sizings. If you frequently call your straights in this spot, then gl to you :) @@skylertaylor7283
@jornbeleke1175Ай бұрын
Just rewatched the Video. With the Line sb has taken, then a straight is probably one of the worst hands he has here, which would make a call even more atrocious
@brettmiller6343Ай бұрын
@@skylertaylor7283KT straight is probably an easier fold than QJ in this spot. Hero is saying he has nut flush or a boat. QJ blocks boats and tens are in heros bluff range so straight is an easy fold for these odds
@Mathemagical55Ай бұрын
You'd get run over in a tough game but people generally don't bluff river enough so your fold might well be correct in the pool you play.
@jonathanpham7397Ай бұрын
don't like the idea of forced straddle via peer pressure... game is already perfect without adding in "gambling" variables just to raise the pot.
@dajerseyratАй бұрын
Did he really say Parx 2-5 was terrible?
@supersmoo7377Ай бұрын
lol at least this caller can admit he is a Rec. he sounds more like a sh*t-rec with that comment.
@bluedog424Ай бұрын
That fish doesn't sound like too much of a fish.....
@CribNotesАй бұрын
I love hearing from the guys who move up to $10-10.....because $2-5 is too hard. LOL At least this guy has balls!
@grahamplayscardsАй бұрын
who said it was too hard? said it was bad, there’s a difference - weak limped pots no action is definitely a bad game…
@moaf2padventures757Ай бұрын
id always check back flop here. youre up against a weak player whos never folding better on a board that hits his range pretty hard. obviously your hand has decent equity against his range but its never great when youre called. you just cant get value from worse ever except for naked diamonds, naked tens and T9 and you block a huge portion of those hands.
@myanaloglife9450Ай бұрын
Guy won, what’s wrong with how he did it, if this is a dumb comment please educate me, newer player
@andywarhaul12Ай бұрын
I mean he gambled pretty hard. Maybe he knows the villains game well but hero holds a pocket pair, blocks a lot of the potential straight hands out there which is what you’d be hoping the villain has when the 9d comes on the river. The top few nuts changes drastically from the straight to quads, full houses, and diamond flushes. For the same reason you are hoping that the villain has the straight, you now have to be worried because what if he had pocket 9s, diamonds etc. Again you’d have to know the guy but I think it’s reasonable to rule out pocket queens as there was no 3 bet pre, jacks at these stakes and this game I have no idea how often people are 3 betting that but it possibly more likely that those don’t 3 bet I don’t know though. Basically there are several plausible hands you are losing to, and the hands you would want the villain to have which would make him scared of the river, you block by having 10s. Could have gone very badly but was played well for the most part I think if the hero knows the villains game
@myanaloglife9450Ай бұрын
@@andywarhaul12 thank you, much appreciated, I will think about what you said, I may have a question later..if your willing to entertain it.. thank you
@MarkNolan-v9tАй бұрын
Also. Main point is. Winning doesn't mean you're making the right decision. You want to try to make the right decision regardless of the outcome. Make the decision that has the highest probability of being correct if you played the same situation 100 times in a row
@pot_kivach160Ай бұрын
@@MarkNolan-v9t exactly!
@pot_kivach160Ай бұрын
@@andywarhaul12 not sure what you mean "H blocks potential straight hands"? a) There are 2 more TT in the deck. b) IF he blocks straight, then his river shove is even more ridiculous move. He can force ONLY a pair of QQ to fold here. That's a horrible play! Moreover: you do not need shove to make that happen.
@dans0nАй бұрын
This dude sounds so confident and knows a lot of poker lingo, but it seems like he knows just enough to be dangerous. Every time he talked it sounded wrong to me. Maybe im dumb.
@Mathemagical55Ай бұрын
Despite sounding suicidal Graham is a good player (although I check the flop here 100%)
@BigBadVVolf22Ай бұрын
This guy just sounds like a mis-reg
@lexnyc10003Ай бұрын
His whole demeanor is bad, DEF a mis-reg😂😂
@supersmoo7377Ай бұрын
I’ve only watched 1 minute of this video, but the caller’s voice sounds sleepy and lazy. I don’t like the cut of his jib. You’re doing a call-in with Bart Hanson, and making a YT video; speak with some energy and confidence ffs!
@aidanhickman6621Ай бұрын
who cares?
@MichaelFoucault-u4hАй бұрын
It's just a KZbin video like who cares some people just speak in a certain way. Like why are you judging him for that it's just ignorant. You want everyone to be happy all the time and act fake if they're not? Like this comment is just dumb
@supersmoo7377Ай бұрын
@@aidanhickman6621 i care, it sounds like nails scratching against a chalk-board to me.
@stevenundisclosed6091Ай бұрын
Repost
@somanyquestions7194Ай бұрын
Seen a few of your videos. What’s going on with your mouth?
@LlamabetsАй бұрын
Can you review more tournament hands nobody cares about these boring live cash game hands. Cash is for fish
@MichaelFoucault-u4hАй бұрын
Lol
@LlamabetsАй бұрын
@@MichaelFoucault-u4h I don’t see what part of my comment was a joke but okay 😆
@dormie9Ай бұрын
Naive comment of the decade
@LlamabetsАй бұрын
@@dormie9 ?
@IshbikesАй бұрын
@@Llamabetssarcasm?
@32266msАй бұрын
What does "The Spot" mean? I wasn't able to find it easily enough on 2+2 or in wikipedia. I don't understand how anyone makes money in this game. This guy calls himself a rec (does he not think like a pro?). If there's 3 pros, 3 recs, "The Spot", and the house with a guaranteed rake, who's making money? Seems like everyone is just hanging around waiting for the inevitable - just like any regular casino game if you're not an advantage player.