Epic the Musical: Ocean Saga Part 2 - Ruthlessness Marathon!

[@artemisfowl7332]

Neal actually drew some extra art of Poseidon trying too comb the ships out of his hair and then getting zeus and Hades to help him XD

[@Ella16360]

My recommendation for the Circe Saga is: Gigi for Puppeteer Laritamiauu for Wouldn’t You Like Anniflamma for Done For Gigi for There Are Other Ways

[@RinSolo]

@@Ella16360 These are mine too :))

[@liminalpsych]

The giants throwing rocks are the Laestrygonians, and in the livestream canon, it says something along the lines of “the laestrygonians throw boulders at the ships” while Poseidon starts a tsunami. The Laestrygonians are also the chorus singing backup for Poseidon.

[@Obsidiana_99]

Oooo I was trying to look up if Poseidon was the giants' father . . . thanks for the name. Turns out he's their grandfather!

[@franxdark]

Also in the original story, Odysseus and his crew didn't encounter Poseidon in this part, all the ships but Odys entered in a harbor surrounded by steep cliffs. And after the encounter with the Laestrygonians, they threw vast rocks from the cliffs, smashing and sinking the ships. Only the ship with Odysseus could escape.

[@RainyLS]

"What balls to just Get in the Water and Poseidon is right there?"

[@RinSolo]

Dammit I am trying really hard to think of a witty reply to this bc it made me cackle but all I can think of is that Odysseus definitely has the balls to do a lot of things when Poseidon is in his way...

[@Obsidiana_99]

I mean . . I wouldn't . . .I like life . . .

[@flanny701]

@@Obsidiana_99 he's calling that line out because one of the climax songs of the series is titled :"get in the water" and boy is it something

[@Obsidiana_99]

@@flanny701 omg lmao

[@flanny701]

one of my favorite parts of anniflamas is when we see poseidons view of odysseus after they finished with their excuses for blinding his son. He talks about closing his heart and in that moment we can see the distinct faces of the crew fade away in what i believe is a sign he's closing his heart off to these mortals and their pleads. They're becoming insignificant nobodies to him.

[@KaiserinReine]

I love seeing all the different animatics to Ruthlessness! Also, glad you stopped the next song that tried to play, you’ve got five whole sagas before that song comes in 😅

[@Obsidiana_99]

It scared the hell out of me! lmao

[@figaroismycat]

If you know, you know 😂😂😂 19:15 Laughed so loud at the pause to realize the implications, i'm lucky i didnt wake anyone!

[@Obsidiana_99]

Yea, my intrusive thoughts won there, lmao.

[@makaramuss]

21:38 THANK YOU! Thats not a apology, once again he is using his wits and telling poseidon something makes sense as a reason, an excuse.

[@storm_cloudxx]

Yep, exactly, keep in mind the count of men: - It starts with 600 - 7 died by the cyclops leaving 593 alive - Poseidon killed 550 men, leaving 43 alive So in total: 557 dead and 43 alive Also, of all those 550 men that died, the ones that betrayed Odysseus by opening the bag are still alive, because they are in Odysseus' ship, so not only 43 men are left, but out of those 43 men, someone there betrayed Odysseus by opening the bag when they where right there on the shores of Itchaca

[@Obsidiana_99]

Omfg you're right! Eeeeeew

[@finanightmare1993]

Poseidon is a hear me out xD

[@rhianbeam1766]

If you havent checked it out, the rest of Steven Rodriguez's (Voice of Poseidon) music is really good too!

[@Obsidiana_99]

Aaaahh thanks; I didn't know his name and hadn't looked it up yet. I most certainly will check him out.

[@ZONALH]

I love all of these ruthlessness animatics they are so well done! So far we lost 7 men (including polites) to the cyclops and 550 to Poseidon leaving us with 43 left and 557 gone Hopefully you dont get spoiled because that song you heard near the end comes wayyyy later Cant wait for the next video!

[@finanightmare1993]

Ody also said the line "I am your darkest moment" to Polyphemus... ^^

[@Obsidiana_99]

Yes! It took a couple listens, but I did catch that. Such a badass line.

[@finanightmare1993]

oh in the second video you said it yourself haha

[@finanightmare1993]

@@Obsidiana_99 Yeah! It is one of my fave songs, too. I just love Poseidons voice, haha. Love your reactions so far! ^-^

[@Obsidiana_99]

@@finanightmare1993 Thanks! I'm having such a good time with these. :-D

[@storm_cloudxx]

Also in regards to the shipwrecks in Neal's Poseidon's hair, check out this drawing Neal posted in his page afterwards (kzbin.info/door/bankswkN26UTMJswHZyfsQcommunity?lb=Ugkx45PAuRgnffYm0UpT_b-dS6OCjNSQabcJ)

[@Obsidiana_99]

Oooo I pictured him with white hair; interesting take.

[@KyoLuvsCats]

I love in the first picture he’s trying to brush his hair himself. But then gives up and his brothers help in the second and newer post. 😂

[@Aquarius-zz6bo]

Me over here crying like a lil bitch because HAH Studios got shafted

[@Obsidiana_99]

? What happened ?

[@Aquarius-zz6bo]

@@Obsidiana_99 oh no, I just love there animatic of ruthlessness and I’m sad more people don’t react to it that’s all.

[@someothermon584]

to this day, Anniflamma's Ruthlessness is still my favourite honestly, I just like eldrich horse god Poseidon.

[@finanightmare1993]

I find it really hard to decide, they are all so unique and great! ^^

[@Obsidiana_99]

@@finanightmare1993 I just had the idea to draw all of em playing poker lol. . .

[@finanightmare1993]

@@Obsidiana_99 Nice idea! :D

[@RinSolo]

OH POSEIDON, you sing nicely but go back to your hole pls. What do you even want, like do you actually WANT Odysseus to close his heart and treat you with the same ruthlessness as you did him? But why though? Why would you want that? What do you gain out of this, Poseidon? What's even your thought process here ... LIKE IT GENUINELY BAFFLES ME WHAT DID HE EXPECT WOULD HAPPEN? WHAT DOES HE WANT FROM HIM? DOES HE ACTUALLY JUST WANT ODYSSEUS TO TREAT HIM WITH RUTHLESSNESS BACK? WHAT F O R, POSEIDON, ARE YOU SURE THAT'S A GOOD-- *cuts off, takes a deep sigh* I guess he expected Odysseus to die with his crew in the end, but like in that case why was he bothering with that whole speech? If they're all gonna die anyway? Idk it's just so funny to me bc he came there allegedly to kill Odysseus and then gets so caught up in his own display that he manages to let Odysseus escape XD (Btw idk if you can tell but I had a blast with this video, just this song is lowk funny to me now instead of tragic, after all this time and all the thinking I've been doing about it.) Eh, who knows, maybe he really just felt like ranting about ruthlessness for ... some god logic reason. Oh, right, he has a reputation. I guess he felt like he had to live up to that. Ehh... Personally, I think Poseidon you should have learned to stop when someone begs and forgive while you still had the chance ... Just some life advice, Poseidon ... before you might find yourself facing the fact that ruthlessness is *not really* mercy upon yourself because being ruthless can actually have quite painful consequences. And so can a really unnecessarily grand show and showcase of power. ~~I mean, you totally could have avoided Odysseus' escape and all the troubles IF YOU HAD JUST KILLED HIM IMMEDIATELY. B U T N O O~~ Hear that, Poseidon? ... Nah he can't hear me he has seaweed in his ears. Too bad bc I am smelling a parallel ... *coughs very loudly* ANYWAY -- listen I LOVE this song it's SS tier just I hadn't listened to it in a while and this was really jarring with future knowledge. One day you'll understand why (then I'll elaborate, I promise.) Until then I'm done screwing around or I'll accidentally spoil sth. All I'll say is this song is a vibe, despite how tragic it is. RIP 500+ men, your final moments were heard as you called your captain in vain, but Odysseus will never forget you. Also, Odysseus' apology was perfectly fine by ancient Greek standards as far as I am aware. That and yk, personally I far prefer hearing someone who hurt me genuinely explain why and that it wasn't out of malice over them saying the word "sorry" and very evidently not meaning it. Odysseus wasn't sorry for what he did to the cyclops because he genuinely didn't do it out of malice; as he said, he hurt him to escape. I have a sneaking suspicion that Poseidon said that he should apologize because he wanted him to grovel and humiliate himself before he killed him. That and/or it was some kind of test whether he got the message of his whole song. I think it's far likelier he might have let him off if Odysseus had replied with ruthlessness of his own, as that is what Poseidon is criticizing him for not having. Like leaving the cyclops alive was the mistake he made... Maybe that one previous comment I made makes more sense now about how I'm salty that everyone tries to gaslight Odysseus now into believing leaving the cyclops alive was the mistake and not the name thing. It's exactly because of this. That whole "Ruthlessness is mercy" is god logic; it's how all the gods are wired so it's understandable why Poseidon does it, it's just frustrating anyway because like ... do y'all REALLY want Odysseus to be as ruthless as you? Like really? *I MEAN YOU TOTALLY COULD HAVE AVOIDED ALL THIS HAD YOU JUST KILLED--* I AM SORRY I AM DONE I PROMISE T-T I hope you at least found this comment as entertaining as I did the video (I had a great time

[@Obsidiana_99]

It reminds me of a cat playing with it's food. . .

[@RinSolo]

@Obsidiana_99 You are not wrong... But it backfired really hard and that's funny ah to me

[@HolyMolyOdy]

MY BABYGIRLS.. (specifically, Neal’s Poseidon.)

[@Obsidiana_99]

I know! Neal's is unusually hot. lol

[@HolyMolyOdy]

@@Obsidiana_99 Like Mortius and Casper said: “would.”