7 Secrets of the Goddess: Chapter 2.3 - Kali's Secret

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@umamara7067
@umamara7067 8 ай бұрын
3:50 Kali as the inspiration for a new musical genre, Shyama Sangeet. Shyama means "the dark one" and is one of Kali's many names.
@pdev6000
@pdev6000 8 жыл бұрын
Very clear, concise, professional yet sensitive explanation of Kali. She has always mystified n baffled me; being a bengali, her image has always been omnipresent in my household and everyday life. Beautiful rendition!
@prosantomukerji3931
@prosantomukerji3931 2 жыл бұрын
@P Dev: Bang Bandu, Kalpani bloodthirsty Kali mystifies and baffles you; obviously, Are you a maha murk worshiping it and the vicious Kalpani Durga with eight 8 hands riding a lion. If not, you can discard them in the garbage. Think, and use common sense. Facts lead to the truth. The truth is bitter. Only the truth shall set you free. Satyemeva Jayete.
@o.solaris6407
@o.solaris6407 4 жыл бұрын
I always saw Maha Kali stepping on Shiva (IE Shiva stopping her killing rage) as an example of how a calm and centered man can help a woman to more effectively direct her more... fiery(?) energies. Women sometime can get SO angry that they can forget that they wield AMAZING power. A good woman needs a good man.. just as a good man needs a good woman. We balance each other. Om Sri Maha Kalikayai Namah
@sueegybeckenheim3518
@sueegybeckenheim3518 4 жыл бұрын
Since Shiva is also depicted as needing to be appeased by his wife Parvati, who is a different manifestation of Devi, trying to turn Kali into a more Parvati like 'character' (for lack of a better word) seems reductive and petty to me. Especially since it's Shiva who is interpreted to do so, it's almost an 'eye for an eye' situation.
@o.solaris6407
@o.solaris6407 4 жыл бұрын
@@sueegybeckenheim3518 Agreed
@charlesdavis7087
@charlesdavis7087 6 жыл бұрын
"The 7 Secrets of the Goddess" is a profound and timely work. Thank you all who participated in the creation of this highly authoritative work and for sharing it with western minds. These insights are not just insights upon the psyche of Mother India but upon the Nature of The God-Universe in which we live and move and have our being. Sincerely. Rt. Rev. Charles V. Davis, A.T.O.M.
@akbrahma7739
@akbrahma7739 6 жыл бұрын
It cheers me up when people are intimidated by Kali. Kali is the deity no Brahmins or Hindu clergy venerated to before Ramkrishno-Paramhans. Brahmins were the puppets of foreigners who exploited every other caste in Hinduism, all in the name of faith. Kali was the goddess who gave us Bengalis the strength to survive when our temples were razed, our population massacred all in the name of the Peaceful God. She is the symbol of defiance and resilience. Why shouldn't Arabs n Westerners be afraid of Kali? They killed millions to enforce their peaceful God. They destroyed culture, civilizations all in the name of religion. Kali is the strength of the weak and the terror of the sinned.
@benitacolmus4571
@benitacolmus4571 6 жыл бұрын
self actualise! Nice🧐well said
@navigator0311
@navigator0311 4 жыл бұрын
She's the black we need to see to know what white is...else we be blinded
@Drew_Hurst
@Drew_Hurst 3 жыл бұрын
Thus, from the mistakes and experiences of history (and also the pure essences of the deeper meaning of the words that scriptures try to illuminate i.e. do to others as You would like them to do to You, and, forgiveness of Self and Others, and, love of Self and Others, and that We are forgiven and thus We need not judge Ourselves or Others, or hold onto any guilt at all); from this wisdom comes My litmus test for Divinity: 1 Divinity does not use fear to control (all forms of fear, including hell of course, are created by Human thoughts, words and actions that are not aligned with any Divine way), 2 Divinity always allows freedom of choice i.e. free will, 3 Divinity would never encourage Us to kill Other Humans, especially on behalf of Divinity Itself (evil exists in duality-reality to be opposite to good, to show Us the difference between light and dark as a lesson to Us and to allow free will for All, not just some, as it is a universal immutable law around Our Earth). Divinity always empowers Us (any and all experiences of connection and unity with The Divine leave Us enriched, or encouraged to be better, for the betterment of Self and All Others.) Now I realise 2 of these tenants go against the letter of the words of the bible, but only the words, and not the essence of it, which is to forgive, love and do unto others. This means that either I am wrong and Divinity is murderous, jealous and dictatorial, or that the words of the bible message have been manipulated to return to, and maintain, a fear-based, power-over-Others type of control, that was the controlling method in place and used by non-divine yet powerful kings and priests before and sadly also after the appearance of Jesus, and The Other Ascended Masters, who came to show Us the way... the way not of death but of forgiveness and life, of baptism which is Self-realization, and not of fear but of unconditional love.
@rjb9239
@rjb9239 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully said! You should write more on this.
@prosantomukerji3931
@prosantomukerji3931 2 жыл бұрын
@A K Brahma, Britishers, though Christians, massacred and looted for the late her majesty Queen Elizabeth, not Christianity. At the same time, kalpanic Kali, the witch, and Durga, with 8 hands riding a lion, LOL, remained idols. Caste apartheid has been practiced for 25000+ years, many millennia before the British landed as the East India Company at Calcutta. Facts lead to the truth. The truth is bitter. Satyemeva Jayete.
@andrewsnowmon2586
@andrewsnowmon2586 5 жыл бұрын
As of yet this is the best representation of Kali I have heard. 😎💃
@ArcticXun-936
@ArcticXun-936 4 жыл бұрын
*Hail Kali Ma , I call on you Kali; your power & wisdom with my love and respect, please help me transform all my weaknesses into strength. I call on you Kali Ma to please give me guidance & protection on my path into becoming a co-creator of my own reality & existence of divine light and love.* *Ave Kali, the Mother Goddess of the Universe, I trust in you* 🙏🏼💜🔥
@kalimackay9878
@kalimackay9878 2 жыл бұрын
some weaknesses can be strengths if re-evaluated and purposed properly. others must be simply banished; like turning over a new leaf. good luck. but also be careful
@karnchaturvedi9050
@karnchaturvedi9050 3 жыл бұрын
This series has changed my prospective about real reason behind gods. Thanks for the content.
@atavi7322
@atavi7322 4 жыл бұрын
I love the voice and accent of the narrator
@Majeed.
@Majeed. 5 жыл бұрын
7:28 powerful statement 🙏🏽🌹
@ilovepiper666
@ilovepiper666 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew all the forms of Kali before watching this video, it's just astonishing to get to know my own culture deeply. No wonder Hinduism prevails from all the religions around the world.
@manikantasesetti1105
@manikantasesetti1105 4 жыл бұрын
The best depiction ever, we all bow to your efforts ❤️🙏🙏🙏
@artofwrick
@artofwrick 4 жыл бұрын
In these days of fake gurus and fanatics, we need people like you who explains everything with true, harmless and credible gesture without bothering about self intention.
@prosantomukerji3931
@prosantomukerji3931 2 жыл бұрын
@Priyadarshi Mukhopadhyay, What else could one expect for Hinduism worshiping KATILS like Sri Ram, Krishna, and Shivji and KALPANIC devi devtas like Durga with 8 hands riding a lion, LOL, while murdering Mahishasura with a trishule. Sri Ram and Krishna are claimed to be the avatars of Vishnu without presenting any evidence in the last 5000+ yrs. Valmiki and Tulsi Das narrate that Sri Ram murdered Ravan and Khunbhkaran for Sita haran with the help of a monkey, Hanuman, that failed to pluck out a Sanjivini booty from the Drangiri parvat, yet, the monkey broke apart the parvat that is still there. LOL. Krishna popularly called makhan CHORE as he routinely stole from the neighbors and ogling their women bathing at the Yamuna ghats. Frequenyly, he would hide their clothes to lust longer at their wet, partially nude bodies like a PERVERT. He encouraged Arjun to do his dharma as a Kshatriya and personally assisted as the charioteer in mass killing of 100 Kaurava brothers to resolve their family feud over the inheritance of Hastinapur, Shivji beheaded his son, then at the insistence of distraught Parvati covered it with a large head of a slaughtered elephant, creating a composite MURDA, Ganapathi, worshiped for good luck and removing life obstacles, Textural Facts lead to the truth and the truth shall set you free.
@NaturalGallantBodybuilding
@NaturalGallantBodybuilding 2 жыл бұрын
love these. Very insightful explanations from many angles.
@mdeleon1708
@mdeleon1708 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so helpful and informative. Thank you so much ❣️
@crazyman3958
@crazyman3958 5 жыл бұрын
Jai maa kalika🙏🙏🙏🙏
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 7 жыл бұрын
Majority of the Thugee were Muslims, they used Kali as some of Taquiya to gain confidence or practicer of both. They looted not because of poverty but in the name of Islam as they targeted only non-Muslims. It may be possible that it was some kind of caste and many members accepted Islam as they felt it approves of loot and killing of non-Muslims. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee
@kalisimic3858
@kalisimic3858 7 жыл бұрын
bas kir
@basantagurung369
@basantagurung369 3 жыл бұрын
All Kali education u r giving is so precious non of so called vagats cannot give such knowledge
@LivingDead53
@LivingDead53 4 жыл бұрын
"From a forbidding force she became a forbidden force."
@supreetagupta1574
@supreetagupta1574 5 жыл бұрын
She punishes those who disgraced her ... Devi kalinaa
@pheresy1367
@pheresy1367 6 жыл бұрын
Gosh!!! People have forgotten the BEATLE'S 1965 movie "HELP" was all about sacrificing a person to KALI, Ringo ended up wearing the "special" ring that whomever wears must be sacrificed, it got stuck on his finger... and then all kinds of hilarity... and outbursts of Beatles music ensues. I remember seeing it when I was in 5th grade and having no reference for this strange goddess. American culture in general had no reference point either. But the culture of England did.
@supreetagupta1574
@supreetagupta1574 5 жыл бұрын
Kali maa ek shakti, adbut have asseme thakat fearkess ...naman
@navigator0311
@navigator0311 4 жыл бұрын
The last few lines are fucking brilliant hats off
@dramakun4931
@dramakun4931 3 жыл бұрын
Mother ❤️
@IbarraAlejandro
@IbarraAlejandro 7 жыл бұрын
जय माँ काली
@Venkatesh_Sowmya
@Venkatesh_Sowmya 4 жыл бұрын
You maybe pictured as violent Kali or Benevolent Gauri...as symbol of rage or harmony.. I am not here to define, understand, judge or form opinions about you because I'm your child, you are my mother. And a mother only knows to love it's child and nothing else...Her love is unparalleled even to those who hate her or those who love her. Mother's love is unconditional..and when we fight among ourselves over our beliefs.. she's the one who experiences the pain of her one child abusing the other..
@akhil766
@akhil766 9 жыл бұрын
very good..post more nd more.videos please
@karank2136
@karank2136 6 жыл бұрын
God bless us
@parmarmayur7004
@parmarmayur7004 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelevable goddes of puare love
@ankitsinghrathor689
@ankitsinghrathor689 7 жыл бұрын
Please explain "by denying them material pleasures and exposing them to the terror of existence".
@canibaloxide
@canibaloxide 4 жыл бұрын
A nightmare with the intent of jolting you out of your slumber
@ankitsinghrathor689
@ankitsinghrathor689 4 жыл бұрын
@Jay Blood thank you!
@ankitsinghrathor689
@ankitsinghrathor689 4 жыл бұрын
@@canibaloxide a night long is all ahead, my friend!
@bhagirathdudi6193
@bhagirathdudi6193 5 жыл бұрын
jy maataa🙏
@Jimbobmoonshiner
@Jimbobmoonshiner 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting overview. I’m not sure about the post modernism creep into these ancient traditions. Seems it’s everywhere, but will no doubt cycle through like all fads.
@sanunayak2490
@sanunayak2490 8 жыл бұрын
at 3:24 sangharsh bollywood movie 3 sep 1999..
@weewilly2007
@weewilly2007 9 жыл бұрын
What parametrics used for voice-over, Some sort of compressed and boosted mid range? More expert-ism at work? Mother knows best is that right?
@joseenativemetis4611
@joseenativemetis4611 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Akshaychouuhry
@Akshaychouuhry 8 жыл бұрын
jai ma kali
@hermescarraro3393
@hermescarraro3393 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely Kālī, mother of mercy, who resides in the infinite ocean of life and in the cremation ground, were all fears of death and pain come to an end. Within you is self realization. Narayani, all beings live in you. Brahma fails to comprehend you, Vishnu seeks your guidance and Śiva rejoices with you. You are the hart and soul of your devotees around the world and of all those who seek your love and guidance. Utmost fit for worship, sublime lady known by many names and forms, source of all. All contraddictions of life cease within you as they become one. Who can undestand you? Can we? It is you who grant us this blessing and allow us to join you. Goddess whose body is the starry sky, the heavens and the dark earth. You grant us freedom and liberation and free us from our sins. We bow and bow and bow to you, oh Mother of endless splendour and love. All glory and praise to you God of all things, all glory and praise to mother Kālī!
@svetlanaparvathi7871
@svetlanaparvathi7871 6 жыл бұрын
Through darkness we are finding the God Light within, finding that there is no darkness, no light, no good, no bad, only eternal nothing ness that people know as bliss, love and peace, indescribable truth that never born never die...
@raincoathaveli
@raincoathaveli 6 жыл бұрын
Colonialism is awful, but the Thuggee were an actual religious sect, though it was never as big as they claimed and they killed lots of innocent people.
@jayashreeprasad9763
@jayashreeprasad9763 5 жыл бұрын
Kali prepare the ground for sarswati
@TriniSid
@TriniSid 9 жыл бұрын
jai devi
@cristianorover5261
@cristianorover5261 7 жыл бұрын
Siddiq Mohammed ,I am happy you think so.but my friend,I even though am a Hindu am compelled to tell share the horrifying truth about Kali .I have faced problems due to a Tantrik Kali worshipper,Kali has destroyed me,She is a malevolent,dark , evil entity,stay away from her please😥😥😥😲😲😲😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😲😲😲🙁😲😲😲😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@yashrajsingh6554
@yashrajsingh6554 6 жыл бұрын
Cristiano Rover where r u from????and what happened to u ?Plz tell
@PArasumaj
@PArasumaj 2 жыл бұрын
Bengal famine of 1770 was nothing in comparison to the famine of 1943 ,a man-made one under the nod of Winston Churchill.
@stevesanjeev4259
@stevesanjeev4259 8 жыл бұрын
amma KALIKAYE NAMO NMAHA
@daviddoch4872
@daviddoch4872 2 жыл бұрын
Lust destroys everything in a man life. I really don't think women truly understand how lust has destroyed families and marriages.
@kvr322
@kvr322 4 жыл бұрын
God is holy ,he don't have lust. God is infinite, there is only one infinite. Worship true God who created u.
@emerald8jambs
@emerald8jambs 3 жыл бұрын
The Trinity/Trimurti for the new cycle remains Vishnu/Shiva and Kali, God the Father so is the Son of Man; Shiva who is the Son of God/Gaea who rose from the dead when his Linga was returned at the end of the War in Heaven and Holy Spirit is Kali
@Xareal
@Xareal 5 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with your assertion that Kali's foot touching Shiva evoking embarrassment is Patriarchal interpretation. You say yourself that all of the creatures of the World begged Shiva to STOP Kali's Rampage- to save them. She was destroying everything because she became overcome with bloodlust. Rather than employ violence to try and stop his Wife's Rampage (which would symbolize the Masculine dominating the Feminine), Shiva (Her Husband that She loves and is devoted to) instead lays himself down in her path of Destruction. When She sees that she has done something which ANYONE would consider an insult to Her very own Husband- of course she is ashamed! She Loves Him, why would She wish to insult Him? In this way, Shiva demonstrates his Wisdom by returning to his Prostrate form before Her- as She originally found Him!
@andregonzalez1496
@andregonzalez1496 4 жыл бұрын
Maha Kali
@Hutiyapawithancientknowledge
@Hutiyapawithancientknowledge 4 жыл бұрын
My research say Kali means black hole or the voids of space . And Shiva means whole atom . And Bramha Vishnu Maheshwar means Electron Proton Neutron which is today's language. Maheshwar and Shiva is not the same . Maheshwar is Neutron and Shiva means The whole Atom . And black hole and voids only let anything inn in the form of Atom . Only Atom by Atom you can get in a Black hole or in a space voids . We Humanity are living in Andhakar , actually forced to live in andhakar and not knowing the real truth behind Indian ancient knowledges . See now these are some briliant ancient psychology. Which Today foreigners are researching about it and developing and inventing new new technologies these are those people who were researching they are and were not a true believer and worshiper of it . They can't crack the complete psychology And they mislead our ancient knowledges to us for one and only Capitalism money . Money is not precious infact it was never precious for humanity . What precious is knowledge . The knowledge of life and truth , The knowledge of the Universe . Knowledge is precious . And See what we learn as knowledge now is not life and Universe knowledge , Today's this Britishers type schools and colleges they only teach you limited knowledge only to earn money . This ghor Andhakar gor humanity .
@jmaico
@jmaico 6 жыл бұрын
The intersectionality is so unnecessary. Otherwise, this is a good channel
@monicazegaib8889
@monicazegaib8889 6 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍😘🙏🏼
@emerald8jambs
@emerald8jambs 3 жыл бұрын
How ironic Kali became Elizabeth I; Durga/Demeter was Queen Anne and Henry VIII was Shiva, are you surprised? We are born is and of each other and move in small groups trough time
@emerald8jambs
@emerald8jambs 3 жыл бұрын
The Thugs did indeed work for me and do today as well, they remove the eye of those who were charge to Shepard humanity, move toward to greed, lead them astray and you will lose an eye
@ankising
@ankising 7 жыл бұрын
👍👏
@LivingDead53
@LivingDead53 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not going with any Satan, no matter what my thoughts think, because he's going to kill me. I want my brain back.
@达努佳
@达努佳 3 жыл бұрын
huh? Kali just represents the energy current inside of you that is wild, empowered and all-loving.
@rohitadhatrao6877
@rohitadhatrao6877 6 жыл бұрын
i avoid not reading of the horrors of the british, but they haunt me everywhere, it makes my blood boil to see they winning the world war thanks to US and SOVIET, and many forced indian soldiers forced to fight, and not facing the ignominy and shame that the german nazis face even today.
@general9064
@general9064 9 жыл бұрын
can i conjecture that thugs originated from thuggi?
@sajiwannaicker
@sajiwannaicker 8 жыл бұрын
yes
@AmanSingh-je3cn
@AmanSingh-je3cn 3 жыл бұрын
No form of kali mata evoke disgust watch your word before create such video indeed she evoke fear in heart of evils. Jai mata
@LivingDead53
@LivingDead53 4 жыл бұрын
They're going to try to break social norms or invoke violence against competing cast members. I will bring civilization to its knees. Well, I'm probably not that powerful, but I am potent. Let's just not warp the internet and leave me alone.
@sudiptosengupta3028
@sudiptosengupta3028 4 жыл бұрын
I still don’t know why almost all Bengalis worship ma kali? This is not the case in any other part of India..
@lionofapollo4636
@lionofapollo4636 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think the actions of the gang of thieves from the accounts were all that exceptionally brutal or outside the norm to not be believable. The Tantric practice of Abhichara promotes the mindset, and it's only Adharma if an "adept" of the path attempts to or kills, robs, or deceives another "adept". The unwitting are open game, and it can even be seen as awakening them by giving them the harmful experience. Backwardness and violence, in an ignorant and fearful fashion to please ones God(s), are still today used as justification by the rich and powerful. This can be jungle tribes to expand industry, Islamic countries for oil, or rural America to expand urbanization. Many of these don't even need the justification that they are violent.
@andrewshantz9136
@andrewshantz9136 4 жыл бұрын
Overall an excellent presentation until it dissipates into political interpretations in the last few minutes. Seeking to co-opt a force as elemental as the image of Ma Kali into a post-modernist political narrative serves no one ultimately, ironically assuming a part in an otherwise far more sophisticated presentation. The story of her rampage and treading on Lord Shiva has a far deeper interpretation than to dismiss it as some aspect of patriarchy or embarrassment over someone or other’s gaze (how many times does the word ‘gaze’ need to get used anyway? Apparently everyone is under someone’s gaze all the time. It’s like the eye of Sauron). Mythology - to say nothing of Divinity - exists on a far deeper strata of the human psyche - Western or Eastern - than ephemeral politics. The conclusion of this video is a sour compromise to the overall quality of the series arising from an unfortunate trend amongst the world’s educated who so widely feel the need to identify a perpetrator and a victim in every human interaction.
@geneoluminology
@geneoluminology Жыл бұрын
shame is a very european theme...the pillar of th power of th church...making humans guilty for the suffering of Jesus ( when they were th one s who did it) What dies is always reborn....wow .... On kali The-origin of one s birth determines the identity...Kali was born to defeat evil..to kill demons who s blood if fallen around, would only multiply evil.....Kali is not thirsty for blood! Just like any Goddess, capable of many things, Kali has one more attribute: to digest evil and remain good.... She does this, disgusting act...yet, she doesn’t become evil....a devil s blood can fall on her and it does not multiply...she digests evil Transmute the negative..for the sake of life, and the victims she defends.... Not that she wants to drink disgusting devil blood...she on,y can,..that s her greatest power....but, like-a goddess...she also has many facets....Im sure , as a true goddess, she has no limits...she can transform into Aphrodite.. Besides, to drink someone else’s misery, ( blood with all its karma) and not feel repulsed nor disgust? ....only great compassion can transmute that! Only true love can make one embrace a devil....she transmutes the negative and there s no rejection nor disgustin her, nor any critical thought in her, that would bound her to negativity... Kali is the personification of compassion and liberation Only one with great love can swallow a devil s blood and not vomit..and not become a devil herself
@eljemlimedamine
@eljemlimedamine 4 жыл бұрын
:p
@tasnimtabassum2447
@tasnimtabassum2447 7 жыл бұрын
So, your gods are dependent to your imagination, norms, cultures. They only exist in your mind. I've been watching this epified videos for some days and became sure that hinduism has changed with time. May be it was from the god once, but now it has changed.
@tasnimtabassum2447
@tasnimtabassum2447 7 жыл бұрын
If there is no God, who created u? With due respect, I just want to know about your belief ..
@vinsin328
@vinsin328 7 жыл бұрын
Same person who created God. Why you want to know my belief?
@ankitsinghrathor689
@ankitsinghrathor689 7 жыл бұрын
Supposedly God is god and one only and religions are different ways to perceive, just, be it Hinduism, Islam or any.
@justabir4182
@justabir4182 7 жыл бұрын
They exist everywhere. Our soul is the content of God, mind is the projector and the universe is our screen. It just shows that happen in ourselves. Not only with God but everything. Ek bindu me purna sindhu.
@incubusk8r
@incubusk8r 7 жыл бұрын
@Tasnim can you tell me where does allah exist apart from your mind? gimme some empirical proof of his existence.
@darklipstickgirlshi7871
@darklipstickgirlshi7871 6 жыл бұрын
If we see maa Kali... God shiva god narsima...etc they are purely devilish God ...it's upon human which side we choose to worship..their good side and devilish side also ...to worship...I excepted Goddess Kali all rupas
@dis4980
@dis4980 9 жыл бұрын
Doubt lol. People still sacrifice humans to kali here and there in India.
@AmartyaBhattacharjee
@AmartyaBhattacharjee 9 жыл бұрын
+Dar “BigD” Eis You should come with references when you make such steep claims
@dis4980
@dis4980 9 жыл бұрын
+Amartya Bhattacharjee you should do a Google search and look at news stories lol
@AmartyaBhattacharjee
@AmartyaBhattacharjee 9 жыл бұрын
Dar Eis The one who claims who give such references. I am not denying your claim or approving it, I am asking you to justify it
@dis4980
@dis4980 9 жыл бұрын
+Amartya Bhattacharjee I'm not gonna spend time copying and pasting. It doesn't happen often, I personally love kali. but it has happened just Google it lol.
@dis4980
@dis4980 8 жыл бұрын
Obviously, but there has been a history of it. Like I said do your own research.
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