Episode 119 - Road World Champs, Influencer Beef, Dizzle the Apologist & Keegan’s Ditching Worlds?!

[@Deanosaurous]

I once tried to say hello to Drew at a race. He spit on my bike shoes and then let the air out of my tires. He said, "This is Gravel Country!" and kicked my bike over.

[@streddaz]

lol

[@sgameirojr]

Sounds legit.

[@NitrogenBullet]

Great format for a meme

[@bryanwiertzema]

I’m part of the 1%

[@JDub-q5g]

… and he called out “you, son of a motherless goat” as he rode away….

[@NitrogenBullet]

I heard that Drew once won a for cancer charity race. He stood at the finish line and screamed at the other participants, "You'll never beat cancer at that pace" while spraying them with champagne he brought for himself.

[@enum01]

I saw Drew at a Gravel Race in Kentucky yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for his race footage or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I rode away and continued with the race, and I heard him chuckle as I dropped off. When I finally made it back up to the front I saw him trying to take someone's Gu's out of their back pocket without asking. The other rider was very nice about it and professional, and was like “You can have a pouch just ask.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear them, but eventually handed the pouch back to them.

[@Plazthespaz3]

This is true, I was there. I was the Gu.

[@MrYAMAHA32177]

Dylan should invite his baseball cap backwards brother to the podcast.

[@tomalbert3299]

well, he is there every time 😜

[@lpearson88gmail]

That’s the guy in the lower right

[@_gregvalencia]

Dizzle: "If only VC talked to me long enough to get past me giving him my absolute worst first impression ever" Also Dizzle: "I don't know how VC couldn't see that I was joking!"

[@danwelch1122]

I have spent a lot of time the last year on the trainer, devouring hundreds of hours of primarily gravel footage. Nearly every video from DJ, VC, Kerry Werner, Joe Goettl, amongst countless others. I was pretty pumped to find Dillman’s page as he has good metrics, evaluations, and well made videos with fantastic music. That said, he’s the only social media person in the gravel content category where I’ve frequently thought “why was that ‘dig’ at the other rider necessary.” Then came the insanely awkward/excuse of how much money Lachlan must make and how that somehow transfers to dollar per race second or some weird fumbled comparison. Then came the jab at the U18 nationals pro for wearing his nationals jersey in another race “no, that’s not Keegan, not sure if I’d wear that bud” or some crap. Constant jabs about other riders bike handling skills. You can play under the guise that it’s “just a sense of humor” but honestly if that’s it, it’s just really insecure humor. Loved his “whoah, those aren’t UCI legal socks” or how so many videos he is blatantly not pulling with the justification he isn’t as fast. Sure, call it a race tactic, but imagine a race of all Dillmans. It’d never finish because every one would be stopped waiting for the next guy to pull. None of the comments offend me at all as they weren’t about me or relate to me. As a viewer I see the jabs as just being insecure with the guise of “humor” apparently and wonder why they’d be made often at the expense of strangers. I don’t normally watch bonkbros but saw this as a response to VC. I’ll continue enjoying all the killer content creators that I mentioned above, but it’s clear why Dillman has the reputation that’s been earned.

[@Plazthespaz3]

You - and everyone else that like this comment - are fucking Charmin soft, my guy. Perhaps knitting would be a better pasttime.

[@bicyclestation]

Bruh we are in podunk Indiana not podunk Kentucky… smh

[@PlayingBikes]

At gravel nats Drew booed Tommy Danielson and shouted “dopers suck, Low-T Tommy D”

[@wenjtu]

Drew - your WiFi failing is god’s way of telling you to stfu. 🤣

[@matthewchubb1]

1:06:51 pure gold, riding the trainer and watching old races LOL

[@anthonyslowinski9769]

Drew should think about supporting Bluegrass Cup Series. Josh is putting on XC races that rival any national level series and hardly any Elite racers are showing up.

[@JayFairbrother]

Idk... if you have two quick interactions with someone you've never met before and all you're doing its being sarcastic and ironic, you're clearly the DB in the situation.

[@tomalbert3299]

Why don't you do a poll about Dizzle? That would bring light into the debate.

[@RestartVandelay]

I really like the logo with the transparency. It should help when you have 3, 5 or 6 people on the call and the logo isn't blocking people in the center as much.

[@peterm.7497]

1:13:00 it works when it appears on Tyler's forehead.

[@augustgames6502]

Drew brings so much chaos. I just love it

[@barrowsworm1226]

Right with ya Dylan! Really, really disappointed with the very few Ranchers who are haters of SBT. Adam: SBT does support the community, and the actual "impact" of the event on the haters is non-existent. I have ridden SBT 3 times, and there is almost zero traffic out there on the gravel roads. The vast majority of the Steamboat community is very supportive of the race, there are only a few "bad apples" here spoiling the batch. It really is a shame, as Amy and her team has done a ton of work to address the concerns of the ranchers. New Ridley ASTR for wide tires, specced to fit up to 52 mm tires.

[@dannywhipple2633]

Having worked for many years in yampa Colorado I can confirm that ranchers hate cyclists. Steamboat is unique in the fact that many of these ranches have existed since the early 1800s. There is a strong tension between the wealth in steamboat compared to the historical ranches that kind of scrape by that is unique to this area. Leadville and Trinidad are different because the wealth divide isn’t so prominent. Steamboat ranchers hate these cyclists disrupting their workday. It’s an interesting tension since they don’t benefit in a way that is tactile to their daily lives.

[@tombardy3813]

I’m surprised the episode isn’t locked on Spotify either! Good stuff but no video for last weeks episode

[@mudcit83]

Is there a way to ensure that Drew has a severe migraine whenever you guys record?

[@williammorris4419]

Little events are the heart of grassroots racing. Thank God they exist and all races aren't MASSIVE budget produced moneymakers with hords of riders.

[@jamespaul6798]

The youth nica series in Kentucky is growing quick. Drew you have a local team was just wondering if your helping with that. The only way to ever have a large competitive biking community is to make one.

[@PurelySnype]

I'm a 40+ year old fan with kids and knows about (and has ridden) RAGBRAI, Core 4, and Snake Alley. If I got offended every time the guys balked to Drew in past episodes about those rides..... Keep the hate rolling! It makes the podcast hilarious! #FlameOn !!!

[@musclelessfitness2045]

I don't know Dizzle, but saying he was joking after treating people bad just sounds hypocritical. I still enjoy the podcast though.

[@MrYAMAHA32177]

Flame on bruh.

[@stang3477]

I don’t care what anyone says. Drew makes the show

[@tomalbert3299]

Indeed. He so ridiculous that I have to burst into laughter so often!

[@rudyelizondo1935]

Yup, great show guys, good luck with the sugar race!!😅

[@gregmorrison7320]

I agree with DJ, Trek really stuffed up with the new Checkmate. Even on my original Checkpoint from 2018 I can fit 50mm tires front and rear. Why would I downgrade to less tire clearance on the new Checkmate? And only 1x to boot! Get it together Trek!

[@AeroPortoCiclismo]

“Hi, would you pay to get spanked by MVDP in gravel worlds…?” “Sure thing, where do I sign?” “No thanks, my gravel training agenda is more important…” 😂

[@danhutjens8328]

Are 2.2 Race Kings really that much better than the 2.0? A lot more bikes will fit those if they have 50mm clearance.

[@michaelnewman4302]

At least Dizzle stepped up with the Tiz-Cycling shout.

[@chrissheldon2681]

Will the bonk bros gang be at Big Sugar, should do a live podcast recording with a small audience, maybe at the meteor or something, would be super cool

[@tonykonvalin9959]

As one who races in a few of those podunk races I was not offended as you are right there are no "big" races. We are down in South-Central Ky and we have a few races down here in the area. I will agree it is hard to get people to the races but "heck" not offended. Boondoggle Events tried a few gravel races but people just did not come so there are less but we do have what we call "All Road Championship" and it is a great course but again not a lot of people. What ride do you put on Drew as did not hear about it?

[@thenoclue90]

1:18:11 This! There are a lot of pros that have a 340watt Z2. Difference is and why it’s so crazy is that he is so light relative to the big boys (Ganna etc).

[@enum01]

Drew not understanding that he came off like an ass is so hilarious to me 😆

[@robhawks]

there is a third option that doesn't involve a bad email address or something going to spam: maybe you pissed him off enough that he has you blocked, based on how the first impression was set.

[@bluegreymtb3350]

Dizzle and Vegan, race!

[@skibmbp]

It’s too bad about Steamboat. As someone who rides bikes and rodeo’s I know some of the ranchers. Keep in mind, not only do they not want the bike race they don’t want the town of Steamboat. On a serious note the race creates multiple hour long traffic issues and there are many more events every summer that have the same impact in addition to the race. That said it stinks no one was able to come up with a better solution. The new course was an attempt to solve some of the traffic issues.

[@titejano]

I can get 50c tires in my Checkpoint. Probably bigger up front.

[@50Fifty-u9n]

How many gravel races are USA Cycling sanctioned? Not many that I can think of. If USAC isn't getting revenue from the discipline, should they be paying for gravel athletes to go to Worlds?

[@paulcratty1637]

How does Drew sounds so much smarter on The Match Box?

[@nathanmontover1436]

Hands up who’s here for Dizzle? 🙌

[@zoeyongod]

fella drew seems like a real flamer 🔥🔥🔥

[@kennethward9530]

1)Poll anyone from Kentucky on I-265 or I-264 between 4:00 and 6:00 PM, and they too will swear everyone else in Kentucky is an idiot. 2) When is the Fairdale Fondo scheduled for 2025?

[@OpusXtr]

Yea, but Trinidad has more “dispensaries” than restaurants. The big draw of Trinidad is that it’s bigger than Raton.

[@saysthetedd]

You guys really need to add timestamps.

[@robbchastain3036]

Tough hand being dealt to Steamboat, this rejection of dirt road closures by local ranchers. But I'd suggest we let the promoters do their good work and not bad-mouth any locals. And big picture, lots of opposition to events and who knows why. Look at the Euro pros. They fly over here for two road races in Canada and nothing in the States, as if our scene is rinky-dink.

[@mickelkobeck7376]

Tennessee's racing is DOA.

[@nhabben1]

How can you not love Drew - 2 kids, steel is real bike, follows Christ. Most based bike rider.

[@yungchimpu1436]

Dillman gives huge "constantly talk about how i'm a christian but i'm actually a creep behind closed doors" energy

[@JustSnowglow]

Yooooo Dizzle remembered the password!

[@timtaylor9590]

One thing I learned about being a very sarcastic person who always jokes is the ppl who get mad are the ones who feel inferior and have self esteem issues.

[@johnnyvanderwell6996]

Dizzle is making beef like the heel in wrestling

[@dt5337]

Drew, watching a man dig his own hole deeper is most entertaining. Keep it up! And yes, you make the show - the chili in the mix

[@peterm.7497]

Everybody has a white backdrop, expect Drew, he's in black -- it's ominous.

[@peterm.7497]

What's next, a flame kit and devil horns?

[@MickJabber]

How much did Dizzle charge for this webcam footage? /s

[@streddaz]

💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

[@CoryOstroski]

2.1 Back and 2.25 Front Thunder Burt on 2024 SC Stigmata

[@911xj]

i had to pause the show and watch the race video... LOL

[@brandon6322175]

Team Drew!

[@ZenEndurance]

My mom decided to give birth to me in Cincinnati instead of Kentucky because "nothing good ever comes from Kentucky." So Dizzle isn't entirely wrong. Well his racing kit is just so very wrong, but you can't get everything right.

[@celestialemissary4934]

Drew is the best part of this podcast :D

[@Allride_]

Where's episode 118? Is it just me being stupid?

[@wateim3951]

the logo is ok but maybe put it bottom center. middle is distraction; i ack that''s where it's always been so why complain now? Better late than never.

[@johnhudrick]

you all need to do shorts to get more subscribers.

[@JohnBQuinn-mk2vf]

The show is good when Drew is on. It's even better when his WIFI works.

[@bryanwiertzema]

Part of the 1%

[@keith_cottongim]

Does this show ever goes as planned? 😂😂

[@Wds__99]

I stand with Dizz! VC needs to eat a burger and chill.

[@MooreMatt]

Getting our weekly dose of cringe 😬. Flame On 🔥

[@ff2e]

goth drew!

[@chrisbaum7407]

We love you Drew from Nebraska!! So if you get kicked out of Kentucky we will adopt you!!!

[@TyTy22_]

Take him

[@nicholasmartin9655]

*Tyler Pearce

[@damionmiller3448]

Red bibs 🔥 for the WIN 🏆

[@bourkey222]

lets be real the flames are awful

[@BigTscycling]

Nice

[@blackdog2006]

I've always wondered why DJ hates GCN so much, but it turns out it's b/c they know more about tires than he does: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoC6mYGEiKiMbqs #40sFTW #CurrentlyReevaluatingMyWholeWorld #IfYouCan'tTrustDJWhoCanWeTrust #BiggerIsBetter #ThatsWhatSheSaid

[@yetiman72]

@33:30 that's why I started following Drew

[@bruceh5933]

Dizzles back must be sore, from carrying the podcast all the time.

[@barrowsworm1226]

Hey guys, on Gravel Worlds... Additionally the course seems pretty lame, with a large amount of pavement, and it appears it has little terrain to make much of a selection. Seems like the UCI is trying to define gravel racing (courses) in a way which is very conducive to the current World Tour "star" riders winning the Rainbow stripes. And then there is the use of the road rankings to call up riders at the start, which is relatively unfair to riders who specialize in actual Gravel Racing (other than UCI Gravel Races).

[@ervin7178]

The spirit of gravel is all about inclusivity, please stop being so elitist and accept that no matter the course world tour watts will beat Keegan. Also the course last year was tighter and more technical than many US gravel races that are just wide bumpy roads. but it’s in Belgium this years so idk if they have the terrain to make a course that isn’t lame.

[@barrowsworm1226]

@@ervin7178 I am sorry, I guess I was not totally clear in my response, by no means am I under the illusion that Keegan Swenson is likely to beat someone like M. V-P in a gravel race! Although, of course, he did smoke Matej Mohoric at Unbound... My post was meant to illustrate that the UCI's version of "gravel" is flawed, IMO, and should be revised. A gravel race should be required to be at a minimum, 75% dirt/gravel surfaces to be worthy of a "World Championships"-this is not Strade Bianchi. The UCI's approach to gravel races seems to favor European style road racers, rather than gravel specialists, and I suspect this favoritism is purposeful. The fact that UCI gravel races use UCI points (mostly earned by UCI road racers in road races) to stage the start line is obviously unfair to gravel specialists, especially those who mainly race outside of Europe. At last years WC's, Keegan was staged way far back, like around 60th or something like that-he had a good race, and ended up 6th, beating many WT pros, including Wout V-A. Albeit, ultimately, if WT riders such as Wout and M. V-P were to concentrate on gravel, it is likely that they would dominate the discipline.

[@matthewchubb1]

Team Drew all the way and roasting the Vegan cyclist who he has “beef” with 😂

[@ezclimb1]

those shirts would be so much better if you removed the word "podcast". Not needed.

[@jerrodpink]

Maybe stop poopooing every bike that doesn’t fit 2.2’s guys. A lot of us spent a lot of our hard earned non sponsored money on our bikes before you all decided they weren’t good enough. Also maybe don’t lose to anyone else on 45’s DJ…big fan, fun show.

[@thenoclue90]

VC is exhausting to listen to. I try every video he does to make it through because he does do cool stuff. That said, I can make it through anytime because he complains too much and is overly dramatic. Makes sense that he is a vegan from California. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@gearmonger8616]

Wow, feelings hurt much? Dictionary, impressive. Major sub loss from the Dillman spray - dig that hole boy!

[@ekrasnai]

This podcast has become insufferable. The unsubscribe button has been hit.

[@andyzephyr1582]

When did VC become such an arrogant doosh--bro? I missed the moment he made this fateful transformation-I guess it was a gradual thing. But it’s very obvious to me and it’s pretty sad. Not a fan anymore….

[@mikecardwell6497]

Drew definitely adds to the show ,screw the 1% keep it up Drew😃😍😂🚵‍♀️