Is This Anti-Puncture Tech The Future Of Cycling? + Shimano Banned Mapdec - Wild Ones Podcast Ep.62

[@josephxkendrick]

Thanks for the shout-out, Francis! Lachlan's ride brought back a lot of memories - he even stole one of my KOMs (a 300km one) along the way too!

[@davidgilfillan1934]

Thankyou Mapdec, for being an honest bike shop (backing both customers and their own reputation). Glad this happened just before I bought both a Grx and Ultegra groupset. Thankyou also to Shimano, you've made re-making this decision far easier now.

[@beseku]

For the folks looking for bike boxes in Bilbao, the Spanish postal service, Correos, sell cardboard bike boxes for 15€. You can find them on the website but need to pick them up from a post office.

[@marcmetrobuen9887]

aupa

[@hendrixinfinity3992]

@@marcmetrobuen9887 opa!

[@mateuszQRDL]

I never thought I'd hear The Triplets of Belleville mentioned on any cycling podcast. Such an awesome animation.

[@SamoyedCycling]

Slight correction, F1 teams can only closely monitor tire pressures from the pits, they can not actually change the pressure from the pits.

[@Miekzz]

Congrats Emily on the upgrade from Producer Emily to just Emily! 👏🏼😂

[@buzcheva6496]

Commute training is a must. Very fortunate to commute to Leeds on the Leeds/Liverpool canal. My coach gave me several workouts to do every week in the run up to Gralloch as I was limited on time due to having an expanding family. Did the trick and I performed well (for me ) with only 2 or 3 rides per week of training. And I use double sided gorilla tape to fix my cadence sensor to the crank

[@rayF4rio]

Favero looked at the Shimano "recall" and said let's not go down that road. I received a new Assioma pedal from them 3 days after they sent me an email notifying me of the problem.

[@kellypaws]

There’s witchery in this. An hour passes so very quickly. It’s the only chat to camera stuff I can tolerate. Excellent.

[@robbie6638]

I use Zwift most of the year. Being a cyclist in Canada winter is a brute and now the summer is fire season, so most years I’m stuck indoors in August and part of September to avoid carcinogenic air.

[@Silidons91]

*laughs in Californian. I ride when I even still see the flames. So you do go outside ever or?

[@balrog687]

Saw the madpec video, they actually have to take off the crankset, clean it, take photos and fill a form and send it to shimano, so they inspect the crankset, every single time, but every single time they ask for for replacement.

[@Silidons91]

Yup they're dumb. That's not how recalls work. Recalls don't mean "every single product is unsafe". Mapdec just sent them all back blindly which is dumb, but checks out with their opinions on a lot of things...

[@82vitt]

@@Silidons91 "every single product is potentially unsafe" so they should recall all without taking chances.

[@82vitt]

Taking photos and filling a form does not equal inspecting. How are they supposed to inspect if there is corrosion on the inside of the crank arm/spider?

[@Silidons91]

@@82vitt that’s not how recalls work. When an auto company has a recall, they don’t give every single person a new car. You take your car in and they inspect it and see if it needs replacing/fixing. These people blindly just sent back all the cranks without even checking. Every product is potentially unsafe always…

[@NorthernSkiAndCycle]

@@Silidons91not true. When automotive companies have recalls they replace the recalled part. I just brought my car for a recall that involved removing the engine. They didn’t “inspect” it to check.. you bring your car, they replace the parts in the recall and give you your car back. What shimano is doing is bullshit.

[@richardguggemos6336]

A couple of points re crank inspection and Jimmy’s comments. 1) MAPDEC remain a Shimano dealer and can order any and all Shimano from Madison. The ban is specifically against them submitting cranks for warrantee. 2) According to MAPDEC, other shops they have spoken with take the same approach of being unwilling to approve cranks upon inspection. 3) Whatever indemnification Shimano provides: i doesn’t prevent the shop from incurring time, money and expense if a claim is made; ii Is not a document (assuming it’s documented) that a shop should accept at face value without council from a qualified barrister. Finally, it appears that Shimano’s ‘recall’ is only an extended warrantee whereby visibly failed ranks will be replaced. And, of course, by that point it may be too late.

[@Nyarlathoth]

Shimano actually replaced all the cranks that Mapdec sent them

[@Morbuto]

It's baffling to me that Shimano are willing to endure the reputational damage of this rather than just performing a proper recall. Why should someone buy an expensive Shimano crank over a good cheaper brand if Shimano won't stand behind their product? 🤷‍♂ Incredible short-sightedness.

[@YouOnlyLiveHans]

Please take Chris on another long ride. That Australia trip was so fun to watch! Might pull him out of the difficult mental spot he seems to be in currently… Also you might want to include a map view per day as I found it rather hard to picture where you guys were every day. Even though I read a book on Western Australia, I have no clue about all of the little towns and their exact location

[@AlasdairxD]

I appreciate the amount of representation for my kind. Thanks guys.

[@jrguk]

In the UK the Shimano crank recall has been registered with the OPSS (Office of Product Safety and Standards), and it seems they were happy with Shimano’s plan at the time. But you’d have to hope the OPSS might start questioning whether it is as effective as they’d been told it would be, and whether they should just replace all the affected production codes.

[@brianb2634]

As a former aerospace stress analyst and an longtime cyclist, this is not a new issue. Aluminum will eventually fatigue and if you want the lightest parts the only way to assure safety is to periodically inspect any aluminum component. It is not unique to any company. Aircraft have required schedules for inspection and parts need repair or replacements as cracks are found. If you want a durable part expect higher weight or use titanium or steel which have endurance limits. Aluminum has no endurance limit and will fail eventually with use.

[@rok1373]

"side car filled with guns and drugs" didn't get the recognition it needed! That Jimmy line made me crack up 🤣👌

[@pbandjosh]

That hub will clearly generate drag to inflate a tire, first law of thermodynamics. They claim it has no drag when not activated to inflate, so it must decouple in some way.

[@lucamuller6729]

4W when active, but there are pumping and friction losses remaining when deactivated

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

The term Jimmi was looking for is… cross threading. Can also happen when mixing threads… Metric and SAE or Whitworth or UNC and UNF

[@captain1664]

Shimano should replace any potentially faulty cranks if a shop is not 100% sure they are ok. And id a shop cannot be 100% sure then what should they do.... I support Madvek - good for them for doing what is right for customers.

[@JaiJai-by4tp]

The issue is he admitted not inspecting them properly ,it's their fault

[@mtbboy1993]

Shimano should've checked the cranks with special equipment, shops won't have that, but as Mapfec said they just ship new cranks to the shops.

[@JaiJai-by4tp]

@@mtbboy1993 Shops could have refused to be part of it ,it's not mandatory .

[@mtbboy1993]

@@JaiJai-by4tp The shop do this anyway. So I don't get it. Strange indeed.

[@maxsievers8251]

It's been known for years before Shimano acknowledged that their cranks are of a bad design that will definitely prematurely fail. Because I wanted electronic shifting and I hate SRAM, I brought an Ultegra group for a new built - except for the crank of course.

[@daredemontriple6]

In theory I think Shimano's approach makes sense. They've identified a problem that exists with a particular type of crank, and presumably they've identified it as a quality control/manufacturing issue rather than a design issue. They've narrowed down the time-frame for when these faults will have been possible, and then told everyone with a serial number from that period to get it checked out - there's a chance their item is faulty, but as a QC/manufacturing issue some of the items may be fine and don't need replacing. In practice though, it seems like the proportion of faulty cranks to non-faulty is way too high. Everyone's reporting cranks that get inspected, pass the inspection, and subsequently fail during use. Perhaps it's simply the inspection process that is flawed, but more than likely Shimano's just banking on the catastrophic failures being a result of especially faulty cranks, and that a lot of faulty cranks will get by. Sort of a "It's broken, but if nobody notices it's broken then is it really broken?" approach. Given the scale of their enterprise, it presumably wouldn't even be that hard to just totally replace all the cranks? Give it a year or two maybe?

[@jergleason15]

Another banger vid! Thanks, guys. Most bicycle shops these days have bike boxes for sale, usually 15-20euros. High-quality material so it's worth saving after you finish traveling. Eat Sleep Cycle in Málaga has the best bicycle boxes. Total VIP.

[@nbartlett6538]

Yes the compressor WILL cause some amount of drag which can be measured in Watts. It has to, due to a law of physics: conservation of energy. The energy to pump up the tyre has to come from somewhere.

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

Newtonian physics for the win!

[@cokebottles6919]

You’re correct, they claim it’s 4-5watts when inflating, but 0 when deflating I believe. Significant, but very small if it’s only for 1 kilometer. It weighs about 1lb too.

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

@@cokebottles6919 I doubt it would be zero at any time. It works by having a cam lobe drive a piston. Presumably, a valve opens to freely bleed off pressure when it isn’t needed… or the cam is clutch activated. Either way, there is both mass and friction however small. All of this goes back to Newtonian physics… there’s no such thing as free energy. Whether you’re generating pressure or rotating mass, it all “costs” something in terms of converting one form of energy (kinetic) to another (pressure differential or inertial energy).

[@hcw199]

Yh I thought that was a dumb question by cade. Obviously it will cost you energy to compress the tyres.

[@cjohnson3836]

All hubs will have a resistance cost. That's not an interesting question. What matters is whether the added cost is offset by reduced rolling resistance via optimized tire pressure for all race conditions.

[@alastairs3727]

Belleville rendezvous is such a great film ! And 450k/day ??? Insanity

[@wayneclement7201]

I saw elsewhere the hubs weigh an additional 400g, the power negative when inflating only, was 4w, happy to be corrected if wrong!

[@JackMott]

yep, no free lunch.

[@chrisb5824]

​@@JackMott next step is to save the 'energy' and release when required - hill attacks, or sprints...

[@chrisb5824]

Just thinking this through... Where does the unwanted air go when deflating, rather than inflating... Could it just reverse the process and power the hub?

[@JackMott]

@@chrisb5824 most of the energy is saved in the tire, you could deflate the tire to add power but that won't be a net win =)

[@JackMott]

@@chrisb5824 yea principle you could do that, but may not be worth the complexity

[@saracen888]

I know for a fact that many bike shops are using the Shimano recall as a cash cow. It’s no surprise that Surrey Hill Cycletwerks wants a full rollout as it’ll bump up the Xmas party fund

[@xKillYourTVx]

im using the cinturato velo tires from pirelli and had no puncture ever since (1year+) I will never ever change the tire type ever again these are utter masterpieces. Before i was having to change / repair at least twice a month in the sh-hole Berlin it was a nightmare.

[@MrTails139]

The issue with the recall is like the motor trade, if they know of a fault they decide on recall if the injury claims are going to be expensive and possibly fatal. In the motor trade we get technical updates of faults without recalls.

[@mindofmission]

Hi guys & Emily! Great show as always! I read “1 bar/kilometer”.

[@CaptainChromaKey]

If you can not get a box from any bike shop (happened to me in Japan) > Go to Home Depot or any home improvement retailer and buy the biggest moving boxes you can get. They also have tape and bubble wrap which is needed anyways! :)

[@gordonwalker4909]

Mobile/active tyre pressure adjustment has been used in off roading for years especially in Icelend,

[@Da5idc]

F1 monitors tyre pressures, but can't inflate them. Also, Pirelli sets minimum pressures for the different tracks

[@_NoName...]

43:58 For the guys who want bike boxes. In bilbao there are lots of bikes shops to get some off them (maybe not just in one shop but in couple of calls tehy will get them). Even though, in the case shops haven't got enough boxes, Correos (Use to be Nathional Mail Co.) do have some bike-boxes available for them to be sent back home + a fixed tariff to be sent to France. Hope this messages reach them and helpsthem. Great trip.

[@gingerbruner]

Winter - functionally - in Las Vegas is August. It’s too hot for anything to grow. So we have more than one growing season, and more than one riding season

[@nickyburnell]

Next Shimano recall will be the loose pivot pins that need cable tension to stop them moving. Grx 600 and 105 hydraulic

[@detmer87]

I got that Gravaa wheelset on pre-order. I get mine in March for my XC MTB. That pre-order was 3 years ago. But I payed only a fraction of the current pricing.

[@molon___labe]

Idk how you guys ride or run without music I have the bone conduction so I can hear my surroundings and jam out to some music! Only time I ride without music is during races and it’s because it’s not aloud not because I don’t want to lol.

[@clarklowe5632]

I am running 35 GP5000 or Gravelking SS (two wheelsets) Love them. So comfy and can ride any surface.

[@stoyanom86]

Quite interested in the shirt carrier solution. Do you have the amazon link?

[@jpg6482]

Funny I flew back from Biaritz after cycling from London in a week off work - went to a local BillaBong shop and packed my bike in clothes boxes! Didn't realise the airport shut at night though and had to sleep outside it with my bike. It was indeed mainly bubble wrap though.

[@Benedocta]

Engineer here. That pumping hub definitely creates drag while pumping. Assuming it's engineered well, it won't add drag when not in use.

[@gingerbruner]

Have you guys done a video on how to properly box up a bike? 49:14

[@sandywatson1082]

It wood be a good idea that groupset crank involved with the serial numbers was clarified before stating shimano cranks would or may be fail.

[@mtbboy1993]

Serial numbers is a must. Silly if they don't have this. I don't know if msot are effected or certain dates.

[@evgeniyp1976]

Recently I was thinking about such product(pressure corrector on the go) and here it is !

[@JonReid]

Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is happening for anyone else, but your podcast never shows up in my feed (and I'm subscribed). I have to search for wild ones podcast and then find your latest video every Thursday.

[@carlpreston2803]

Same..

[@wayneclement7201]

Click the bell, select "all"?

[@rayF4rio]

Sometimes it shows up, most times it does not. Weird.

[@mikeytek]

Yup mine randomly stopped showing up lol

[@JonReid]

@@wayneclement7201 it’s odd that it doesn’t even show up when I check my subscriptions

[@danrichards-theonearmedwon7813]

I had a my Shimano HT crankset snap [halfway on a group ride to Brighton] on my Cervélo S3 - which ultimately ended up being stolen! However, this was before the Faulty Units were highlighted for recall. I switched to Rotor, I’ve been riding Rotor by choice ever since.

[@ColinSmith2001]

I just had a Dura Ace crank arm fail in the predictable way. Shimano in the UK wouldn't warentee it as it was from a batch number outside the recall and had been resold by 4iiii with a power meter fitted. 4iiii wouldn't warentee it as I wasn't the first owner. Beyond my own hassles, cranks outside the recalled batches failing isn't really a good sign for an end to the issues.

[@AG-el6vt]

3:15 The same way a dynamo hub transforms rotational kinetic energy into electric energy, I can imagine the pistons inside this hub leveraging rotational energy for compressing air adiabatically. I bet the hub gets quite warm if this has high capacity, same way the cylinder warms up when you use your track pump. A gravel tyre doesn't need to reach very high pressure, but it does need high flow capacity if the sealant fluid can't plug a puncture. Edit: yes, this creates more drag than a dynamo hub, because the pressure-volume conversion is much less efficient than the mechanic to electric energy conversion in the dynamo hub.

[@litespud]

I discovered self-sealing silicone tape for finishing my handlebar tape - F-ing brilliant!

[@konsticraft1028]

41:10 definitely not for tubeless, had a bike shop in norway fix a hole from replacing a spoke in my rim tape using electrical tape. After a couple days the adhesive on the tape got dissolved by the sealant and it started leaking.

[@ericpmoss]

In a real pinch trying to find a bike box, try a store that carries big TVs and refrigerators. A box cutter, a roll of duck tape, and an hour might at least get you a built-up wheel box and separate frame box. Or take a train back if you can.

[@DP-PhD]

Yes I’m sure the reason Shimano ‘banned’ Mapdec was because in one if their videos they said they didn’t inspect a crankset before they sent it back to Shimano. What they most likely meant was they took the crankset off noted the serial number confirmed it was one that was in the recall set and, because of the virtual impossibility to ensure any crank in the recall set is safe, recommended the customer return it to Shimano for exchange. Shimano though are paying for inspections obviously in the hope that not every crankset will be returned back for replacement. Any shop that has a 100% return rate and/or states that return is their default position, no matter how sensible and correct that standpoint is, is obviously not fulfilling the ‘agreement’. Why would Shimano therefore keep them as an approved inspection shop and carry on paying them for inspections?

[@markp353]

What you said sounds quite reasonable. But if the crank then fails after the inspection who is going to be sued, the mechanic or Shimano? Visual inspection on its own is not enough to verify if the crank is safe but rather seeing if failure has started to occur. Another big company just trying to reduce their expenses at the expense of the rider's safety. What this does do, is turn me off from using Shimano going forward.

[@DP-PhD]

@@markp353 as I understand it, approved inspectors are exempt from litigation and Shimano has full liability. However, how water tight this exemption is I'm no expert! I can understand why Shimano took this approach but it certainly doesn't fill me with confidence. However, on the flip side this should increase the QC scrutiny on 'new' Ultegra (and Dura Ace) cranks, which should ensure these don't have the same failure potential. Also 105 apparently does not have this issue

[@ebikescrapper3925]

Gravel World Championships was really the Urban World Championships. I have a tyre inflating system, a pump.

[@rantingwrench]

Another detrimental effect of the Shimano crank 'recall', at least here in the UK, is that the volume of returns to Shimano UK/Madison has completely crippled their warranty claims system. It now takes weeks to months for claims to be processed, even on non-Shimano products (bear in mind Madison must be one of, if not the largest UK cycling distributor, with dozens of brands under their umbrella), because there is such a massive backlog. I submitted a claim for a customer's Thule bike rack recently and it was stuck in a TWO MONTH QUEUE. If all Madison had to do was send out new cranks, rather than inspect, pass/fail and then either return or replace them, it would be far less time-consuming. Shimano not only thrown customers and bike shops under the bus, but their worldwide distributors too.

[@jamieohalloran3743]

Done a few bike packing trips to Spain and France - Decathlon normally have a plethora of boxes.

[@cb6866]

Thank you Emily , Francis , and Jimmi . Francis , the frogs , in the Triplets ?

[@GeekonaBike]

Back in the very early days of Stan's sealant the rim tape was Strapping Tape 1st layer & then a layer of electrical tape.

[@cuebj]

Shimano cranks: my 2018 Ultegra was replaced easily enough via my LBS. But... if only I had asked for a 165mm crank instead of the replacement 172.5mm. I'd been aware of benefits of shorter cranks for years but forgot about it in relation to the replacement

[@SteveHorton-rf7dr]

Took mine to my LBS, here in Spain, they spun the crank and went “you need a new one” no fuss. They sorted me out with a loaner bike, until the replacement arrived. Really good service from the LBS, not so much from the way Shimano have handled the whole thing

[@johanrr4]

I would love for you to check out some of the new Cube bikes! The 2025 models of both the Nuroad and Attain seem like crazy good value compared to most of the big brands, even Canyon.

[@emmabird9745]

The crank damage looks more like cracking than delamination. I thought these cranks were aluminum, which does not delaminate, however near critical length cracks are often not very long and usually invisible to the naked eye. I wonder which Shimano officer will be in the dock for manslaughter when someone is killed by a broken crank?

[@Zhoron]

It's delamination because the crank is made by gluing two halves together and it's failing along the join

[@emmabird9745]

@@Zhoron Thanks for the info. My budjet doesn't run that high so I had to judge from the various pictures I could see.

[@jonkepko9217]

I had a set of Ultegra cranks on the decal, so I just ditched them for Rotr cranks.

[@mtbboy1993]

I checked a local rider's cranks on his road bike, but told him he should keep an eye on it, but I touched it, did visual inspection, wiggled it flexed it. All was fine. But I can't day for sure it's safe. I'm not a roadie so I would not have to deal with these cranks on my bike, but if I were I would've swapped to something else.

[@ish474]

If you think of a shake weight every compression after a single rotation would produce a tiny bit of air. Multiply that by your wheels rpm and you could indeed produce a good bit of air pressure

[@generalruler]

picture a hotdog...

[@johnsfulton]

If the Shimano issue was in the car industry there would be a full recall due to the failure mode. I have had my crank changed under warranty but I will be purchasing SRAM from now on.

[@johnfarr5415]

Pretty sure you talked about this around Paris Roubaix this year...yes Visma road team.

[@metrostoel1645]

Jimmi's t-shirt is sick! 🔥

[@christopherstaples6758]

@7:20 they did inspect them , but they sent all of them back regardless if it was a fail / pass , they did not want to be accountable for it failing 1 week latter etc ... it was shimano that was not inspecting the returns

[@vlbz]

If a bike shop tells me my cranks are safe and it breaks, I'm not going near that bike shop again or buy any Shimano product. It's a safety critical component, it has to be replaced no question. My opinion...

[@neilr90]

personally i see no reason to continue with shimano when they are doing this. You shouldnt wait until your crank fails, its pretty evident that shimano doesnt care about consumers safety and probably only did this due to some external pressure. Cant fault the bike shop for doing their best. Also i've heard that the current gen ultegra/duraace cranks can fail at a similar spot as well

[@vlbz]

@@neilr90 I should add, I do like Shimano and use their transmissions on all of my MTBs. The value is too good. A failure like this would put me off completely though.

[@kramrenrut950]

I snapped a shimano crank whilst riding 10 months ago, sent it off still waiting, there’s a big grey area with bike shops saying that crank is ok and then it failing for the customer and they have a terrible accident

[@T4nsho]

Love the ending! 😂

[@oheso]

I have heard of airlines refusing bikes that aren't properly boxed up, with a different definition of what that means for each airline of course.

[@ebikescrapper3925]

As somebody who gets hayfever and lives in Scotland indoor training is a good thing,

[@hananas2]

Oh I haven't bought rim tape ever in my life. Discovered electrical tape as rim tape when I was 16 and never bothered doing anything else.

[@elononoras1902]

GCN has very short short about that tyre pressure adjusting hub pump.

[@schmerol]

electrical tape as rimtape for tubeless works perfectly, i used it alot. it's just not the lightest

[@PuhutaanPyöräilystä]

The self inflating tire's hub has a drag of 4 watts while inflating and 0 not inflating. So nothing too bad.

[@qwerty261]

Got to be careful with the cranks. I took mine to Specialized to be checked and their mechanic said the list from Madison didn't include my crank. I then pulled the list from Shimano out (the actual press release) and it was on there, so they checked it. How many people are just accepting the mechanic/Madisons list? It has been checked since by another shop. They get paid to check and I get confirmation it is safe, for now...... Win win

[@cokebottles6919]

The tire inflator thing is pretty cool, but very niche and the price/weight would only make it worthwhile for pro’s, only for flatter mixed terrain courses, and only for gravel bikes.

[@CycletheNation]

Planning and cost for any World Record event is huge! (And that's before you start talking about all the verification processes) My next one (another fundraiser) for 2025 is 'only' 170 miles (270km) a day for 14 or 15 days, but I've already planned the rough route, and already set up a crowdfunder to try and help raise money to cover it all. Fuel costs / hotel (or motorhome if someone will lend me one!), food, spares, ferries, potential planes - that's before you start thinking about what you're riding and how damn difficult it's going to be. What the likes of Mark Beaumont / Lachlan Morten / Lael Wilcox / Jenny Grahem et al. have done is a huge, huge inspiration to me, even moreso the unsupported rides - but my word it's difficult and stressful to even get off the ground. It's the reason I try as hard off the bike to try and find a way into the industry as I do on it!

[@garrynewton6213]

Yes you've mentioned it before and it's 4w drag

[@realnutteruk1]

Don't forget Ed Pratt, who unicycled around the world, including the Nularbor Plain.....

[@josephxkendrick]

Legend!

[@nickbaumcycling]

I made a review video of the '23 canyon Grail and their new integrated cockpit and i say basically exactly this that it's super super annoying you cant adjust anything. I wish new bikes didnt do this edit: whoa, you talking about training on commutes is crazy timing! I just started commuting to work by bike more often and been looking heavily into opinions and details of this in the last couple days

[@jarislikeparis]

I need to know where Jimmy got the Lachy shirt!! Please please please 🙏🏽

[@apollochimp]

Just wanted to give a shout out and say that all of you guys are awesome, and so happy it's not a sausage fest like every other channels. Emily I'm a big fan! One of the only cycling channels I'll consistently watch. You guys put those obnoxious Nero pricks to shame.

[@buzzman4860]

The tire inflator to put air in for the sprint would be well worth it.

[@veloaa-montreal6924]

When I was 14 I had my leg cut open by my 1-piece BMX crank that snapped off, if I had the Shimano Ultegra/Dura-Ace cranks in question I would not be comfortable riding them, regardless of inspection results.

[@robinseibel7540]

Yes, there is "drag" from this hub. More accurately it takes energy from the bike/rider system to do the work of compressing air. Whether it's significant or not is hard to say. There's no such thing as a free lunch.

[@susiepellow3612]

My understanding was that carbon bikes were too fragile to be loaded with paniers so manufacturers do not provide rack mounts - but the Specialized Vado SL2 is a carbon bike with rack mounts. So, why don’t more manufacturers offer them? It seems reasonable to not include them on ‘race’ bikes, but most people don’t race their bike even if it’s made of carbon and might, on occasion, want to attach panniers (without resorting to the expense of Tailfin’ solution). If Specialized can do it on the Vado SL2, why can’t other manufacturers offer the same functionality?

[@NewtOrelands]

I am a NYC Bike Courier & have never worn Earbuds. My mind wanders, as I ride, but I am in "Tune" with Traffic. The only downfall, is that sometimes, my internal soundtrack, becomes tedious. At 53, there a lot of Tracks embedded in my head and sometimes KARAOKE happens.

[@AquidoSquido]

I just use default training programme from my headunit, Zwift is just way too costly and I'd rather pay that money on gym instead.

[@bikingchupei2447]

sad that GCN, the largest cycling channel on youtube, never made a dedicated video on the shimano crank recall news, i challenge you to try and find where they talk about this issue.

[@MrJasonodonnell]

The Triplets of Belleville is arguably the best cycling Movie ever made.....

[@Steven-Sea_gull]

Surly it's a no brainer if Shimano pay £35 per inspection and you have it inspected 3 times it's has to be cheaper in the long run for Shimano to just replace all cranks . way cheaper than a compensation claim and better for the brand reputation

[@adamcoppock5018]

This Shimano crank thing is an absolute nightmare and they've really failed as a brand to tackle this. When they say 2.8m may have issues obviously it feels like this is on the lower end of the estimations (probably lowest). So I would imagine you could easily double that figure and still be in the realms of possibility. DT Swiss had an issue with their hubs and handled it much better. Recommendation to Shimano would be to offer people the opportunity to buy a new crank at cost if you have a certain serial number as a critical non-essential to restore Trust.

[@Cloxxki]

What are the latest best ways to get LONG cranks please? People are getting taller, cracks are optimize for short people. 175 mm is for a person 170 cm tall with average leg length. A tall rider with relatively long legs can easily see his optimum exceed 200mm. No standard frame accomodates, good luck finding anything over 180 mm. I have old 185 and 195 mm sets, bulky square spindle ones, but it's ACE. Wait for 3D printing to mature? Bespoke carbon solutions? Weld-on extentions?

[@NotDeadYetThanksForAsking]

Framework Bicycle makes custom length cranks. Just came up in an interview with Peak Torque.

[@josephw8662]

According to bikedynamics UK, recommended crank length for 170cm is 165mm based on published reports and experience? Crank choices are generally getting smaller (often due to pros opting for shorter) but i agree more availability of lengths beyond 170-175mm is needed.

[@McHayes76]

My shop inspected my Ultegra cranck and said it was ok. I then asked if they could garantee it wouldn't fail on me two weeks later. They said 'no'. This whole inspection thing is a big farce and made me choose Sram on my last bike. Honestly? I think Shimano did the maths and compared the cost of replacing them all against the cost of lawsuits that could follow and choose to take the risk.

[@VirtualCyclist91]

Instead of looking at your blob pedal thru watopia you should try Rouvy and watch your blob pedal thru real life locations,maybe itll inspire you to go there someday

[@andrewlcs542]

Yes, there is extra drag when the hub-pump is in operation. Regarding Shitmano cranks, why not just power test it to 90% of the designed max?

[@johnnunn8688]

*130%

[@andrewlcs542]

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