Episode 254 - Conspiracy Theory Insanity with Milo Rossi "MiniMinuteMan"

Milo Rossi joins he boys his week as they break down some of the most absurd conspiracy theories, and discuss why people tend to fall for them so easily.
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[@richmondvand147]

Milo and the Chilluminati squad? HOLY FUCKING SHIT LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i've never been so hyped for a colab I"M GOING GOOGLEDBUNKERS

[@justinbennett9998]

After I read this response I became disappointed for this episode. The internet lies about everything. This episode is gunna suck.

[@shigeminotoge4514]

@@justinbennett9998 Did I miss a joke or did you miss the party?

[@justinbennett9998]

@@shigeminotoge4514 you missed a joke. You're either under 30 or over 40. Don't trust the internet for any reason. Doesn't matter what it says.

[@titi4112]

My favorite episode ever

[@shigeminotoge4514]

@@justinbennett9998 Says someone listening to a podcast on the internet? That's absolutely Googledebunkers

[@BaronVonHardcharger]

This podcast should TOTALLY crowdfund to buy that Ghost Brothel, just so Jesse can get his wish! THAT should be the 10,000 tier.

[@persuasivebarrier2419]

12:06 "science is okay with not knowing. pseudo-science is not okay with not knowing, it has to have everything figured out." well put. as data would say, "the most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom is, i do not know. i do not know what that is, sir."

[@denteater3498]

YES! Milo is a guest I’ve always wanted to see!

[@2ndperky]

Milo is easily one of my favorite KZbinrs, and obviously this is my favorite podcast. I'm so glad they had this collaboration together, and I'm really enjoying this episode. It's very enlightening and also funny and entertaining. This is why Think Tanks are a thing, because beautiful minds coming together can make some amazing assessments and have the most interesting discussions. It's even better when they're charismatic and funny. Both the Chilluminati boys and Milo are just so fun to listen to.

[@MEYGOAD]

This was the most real talk the podcast has been and I loved every second of it

[@unitjax9507]

Jesse said Googledebunkers and I instantly knew what was in store!

[@366liam]

When I heard Jesse talk about this weeks guest on geekenders I knew I had to check it out.

[@relemblade]

me too, I freaked out

[@revant2138]

Me too!

[@GeminiTasiri]

Did not expect two KZbin channels I started following for different reasons at different points suddenly intersecting like this, awesome!

[@A_Casual_NPC]

Yeah! As soon as jesse said googledebunkers on geekenders, I knew this was gonna be good

[@RealmOfUnknown]

Yoooo!!! Haha, so so soooo happy to see this collab. All of ya’ll are incredible and do an amazing time bringing a fun yet critical and down to earth vibe to topics. 🔥🔥🔥

[@devvynoler322]

So hyped to see this, Milo is such an amazing creator

[@tpickles67]

I have never heard of this man in my life, but I definitely want to check out his stuff now!

[@geoffreycannon2197]

Milo Rossi is actually very interesting to watch, for sure. He is very ... realistic In the way he presents information, even when he gets irritated or excited.

[@Lord_Shmesh_The_Squishy]

I never thought I would see the day Milo Rossi and the Chilluminati squad team up. These are happy tears :']

[@CptFUBAR]

This was fuckin great, guys!

[@wrennethestoner]

So Mathis is looking for an alien gf and Jesse wants a ghost gf. We're learning about our chill boyos every day lol

[@25Leprechaun]

I'd also like to say a lot of the issues with misinformation also have to do with the news. For example, a lot of the time I see "x study says this is bad for you" my first instinct to ask when I read that is "who paid for said study" I remember reading a few years ago, Coca-Cola deliberately didn't release the findings of studies THEY paid for that painted their soft drink in a negative light. There is a bias in who pays for what study, and guess what the news corporations NEVER say who paid for the study, they just report on its findings. Even though knowing where the study's money came from is important to knowing the context of the study.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

for some reason this happens with eggs all the time. "eggs are good for you" "eggs are bad for you" "actually, having a couple eggs a day is fine" "if you even look at an egg you will get turbo cancer" it's insane.

[@davidbodor1762]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 So the thing is, there's a ton of studies on common food items that are trash, because our current system incentivizes catchy titles that get media attention. Science is underfunded, and to gain funding, some people resort to publishing junk science with not very concrete evidence. These studies are almost never peer reviewed, and tend to make contradictory claims all the time. John Oliver did a segment on junk science a few years back, it's a very good watch if you're interested in how this works, he breaks it down really well. However I would caution people from throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Peer review is an AMAZING thing, if two different groups of scientists both verify the claims and come to the same conclusions, then you can trust what the papers say a lot easier, and the more people peer review a paper, the more you can trust them. Always check if science papers are peer reviewed. It's honestly sad that peer reviews are so underfunded and underappreciated, there's no prizes for 2nd place in science unfortunately, but it's really important to double, triple, quadruple check results with different teams, else we can't really be sure of the veracity of those claims. Also, don't take media claims at face value, ever. A lot of these papers tend to be distorted by the media, the scientist might say one thing about the benefits of one substance, and then the media just runs with it and makes it as sensational as possible, to the point where what the media says and what the scientist said are COMPLETELY different. If you can it's good to go into papers and read them for yourself to get what the scientists say. There is a lot of jargon that you have to know how to handle, Kyle Hill has some really good youtube videos on how to read scientific papers and understand them.

[@Ice_Blossom]

I heard googledebunker and I knew

[@n0etic_f0x]

The Googldebunkers for some reason think these very different birth people are not the same bird people.

[@rdfjfgjyfdhfghy67456]

I didn't want this episode to end! Please, Milo, come back once in a while!!!!

[@karlthemadscientist6295]

woah the confluence of two of my favorite youtube channels. The stars have aligned.

[@Facerip]

Real ones remember when Jesse Cox spoiled this appearence in Milo’s livestream a few weeks back

[@n0etic_f0x]

Fact-based knowledge is the best kind of knowledge because not fact-based knowledge is not knowledge

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

what's the worst kind of knowledge that still counts as knowledge?

[@n0etic_f0x]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 Trivia.

[@madmonkee6757]

The threshold to entering college should be "are you smart enough" not "do you have tons of money?" And in most countries, that is the threshold.

[@GypsumGeneration]

I hope you guys look into the Amelia Earheart Southern Pines North Carolina conspiracy, it's alive and strong to this day, with people making regular pilgrimages to the grave.

[@jaymenjanssens720]

8:49 The first 10 min is packed but this "adv ag" bit is exactly why we need to decolonize (far from the only reason). very fun show

[@patu8010]

I hadn't heard of Milo before but I love his energy

[@etherealboomslang991]

This was such a fucking good episode!! Please have Milo on more.

[@goreogre]

The crossover I didn't know I needed

[@Hebwastaken]

When the intro music hits I start walking that ******* duck 🦆

[@GypsumGeneration]

I love this guy's willingness to tackle BS head on. Big ups king

[@DrMustacho]

Great guest You guys should get a quantum physicist next

[@thelaughingrouge]

Milo's on the podcast? Hell yeah dude let's go!

[@cedargeor8852]

Now this is a crossover I was never expecting! Let’s gooooooo!!!

[@madmonkee6757]

Oh, you actually have Milo! Fabulous!

[@dalibar]

Yesssss! Super excited for this one!

[@kahunab7400]

The crossover i always needed but never knew i wanted.

[@davidbodor1762]

Awesome episode! Loved this, I hope we get more guests like Milo from other fields too.

[@robvaca6847]

Great episode, was excited for this as soon as Jesse said "google debunkers" on Geekenders!

[@jimjam7928]

This was a really good episode. Informative and entertaining.

[@bryceneedham1860]

great episode

[@MaxdamageAF]

probably my favorite episode, this was solid, fun connecting topics & still followed though

[@RobertPalmer-i2u]

one of the episodes!! mindblowing thinking

[@PhenixRyze]

this might be my favorite episode

[@titi4112]

My favorite episode to date!

[@alyxtheexorcist]

I had an old oven moved by itself in the room at the Jennie Wade House in Gettysburg.

[@Mak67]

The one thing i would say about the inside light at night in a car, 20 years ago, widows were more.. squarer? if you put a light on you'd see so much of yourself that you can't truly see the finer details of headlights over your own refletion. Having kids now in a more modern car, I'd say that's dimished quite a bit.

[@deadcard13]

This one was a treat.

[@screamingfurby]

Lol, the new patreon goal is just Los Espookys

[@madmonkee6757]

If we have to be here, and suffer through this hell dimension FOR NO REASON then god damn! If that could ever be proven to me, I'd off myself immediately. I suffer through this hell world because I think there might be something better ahead (or worse, if I off myself early).

[@mybelovedchaos]

I am pretty disjointed from social media and I have never heard of this person before but a lot of what he has said are things I have been saying for years. Its starting to make me wonder if these are my own thoughts or if I have been unknowingly influenced in a 5 degrees of separation style way. Either way he has a new follower amongst his 2 million @,@

[@Radignostic]

the guests! get Northern Lion on next??

[@mokajones74]

Now let's get Defunctland

[@cschenck90]

God i hope they bring up the stupid leviathan thing i keep seeing on tiktok

[@victorcaval]

OHH IM ALREADY STOKED!

[@SnippyDoughnut]

Can we please get an upload of the chilluminati end theme?

[@0OolIi]

We're so back

[@Endrance88]

Can you make brett bayonne a permanent member of this podcast pls?

[@adamgale6484]

Keep up the good work

[@F3rum]

[@joannafullerton4869]

As a human being I have to say that this was the most depressing episode ever. I feel a lot happier when you guys talk about tall whites and give me a nice crazy world view . I am very angry (ironically) that you made me think critically. This is mostly ironic I actually love you guys .

[@cmrnowlin]

I think the science faith idea has more validity with non-science people rather than scientists.

[@davidbodor1762]

Yeah, for people who have no idea how stuff works, they kind of have to take things at faith sometimes. They hear a scientist say something and they don't understand the underlying principles, but they accept that that's how it is, because they trust the scientists know what they're talking about. There needs to be a degree of trust in experts after all. However, actual scientists, at least within their fields, will always check and double check and measure things for themselves, rather than just take what someone said at face value. That's not to say there aren't issues with the way our systems work currently. Peer review is a something that quite frankly should be lauded and funded a lot more than it is, but there's no prize for 2nd place. People who make extraordinary claims and come up with things first, get all the glory. But it is important to be able to reproduce those results. There's also incentives for junk science in our current system, where releasing papers with not a lot of evidence with catchy titles to get media attention for a week can provide monetary gains and then those papers are abandoned, never reproduced and are most likely not correct in their assertions. There's a ton of these on common food items, like chocolate or coffee or whatever, there are hundreds of papers on them claiming all sorts of things, much of which is never actually verified. That said, I don't think most scientists would take those at face value and unfortunately those papers do damage the trust the public has in scientists.

[@November5400]

Oh let’s GOOOOOOO

[@shigeminotoge4514]

OMG, crossover of the C E N T U R Y

[@2ndperky]

So, are the Chilluminati trio Googledebunkers?

[@SnippyDoughnut]

YOOOOOOOOOO

[@user-rn7vt5mj2m]

Chillicious!🎉

[@Marthyn96]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO!

[@cloontje]

This video is googledebunkers

[@ricmrp]

Such a wholesome episode. Milo was a great guest!

[@Skiriwowi]

They keep saying "not getting into AI" WHY NOT? Get into AI! Give me Kandahar!

[@davidbodor1762]

If they go into AI, they need an expert with them.

[@relemblade]

yessssssssssssssssss!!!!!

[@connorhennessey1316]

YEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

[@chrisandrews9856]

What a poggers colab, cant wait to listen :D

[@sophiehanson8100]

My brain is weird and I can't put voices to faces (not gonna lie I know there's 3 of you but in my head it's 1 or 2 of you reading) sorry but once I googled I was like oh yh I like him he makes sense haha xx

[@grindcoreninja6527]

"Delta Green" though. Play it, it's fucking "The X-Files" the TTRPG. I need to hear a session boys. Edit: I ran Delta's "Last Things Last" and it went way longer than I thought it would, so keep that in mind. Also, sorry for demanding something, I just know you guys would enjoy it, the lore book alone is a conspiracy buffet with no sneeze guard.

[@BaronVonHardcharger]

Not needing a higher purpose is a young man's take, for sure. Gotta have your beliefs challenged in a damaging way a few times by uncomfortable reality to understand why people reach out to religion, even if you don't believe it. (Not religious but really tho... )

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

i think i get where you're coming from. thanatophobia hit me hard a few months back and i was willing to believe all kinds of stuff.

[@PointingLasersAtAircraft]

Scientists are the priests of today's religion.

[@rustytoyota]

This guy is so full of him self and has a very over inflated ego. He went from being doing it for the love of education to this very jaded and unfun know it all dead set on proving himself right. This podcast fell off. boo.

[@Radignostic]

you can just say you think hes hot

[@ChilluminatiPod]

I love this comment so much

[@DemonLordSparda]

Tackling misinformation isn't about fun. It's about informing people. That's one of the reasons why misinformation spreads. It's iften more fun or interesting than reality.

[@Radignostic]

@@DemonLordSparda the true misinformation is the friends we made along the way

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

which one?

[@prairietan]

Honestly Milo Rossy didn't do much for this pod. No idea who he is but not really impressed with the episode 😔

[@davidbodor1762]

Bro this is like one of the coolest collabs ever what are you even on?

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

meh, they can't all be winners to everybody. Mathas can be a little much, especially when he only had Santel to bounce off of and fuel each other's crazy, and Alex annoys the tar out of me sometimes. c'est la vie. but maybe you'll like next week better.

[@davidbodor1762]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 The Santel episode made me feel like I'm the crazy one XD They really need some grounded guests from time to time, especially people who have expertise on a subject, Milo is a legit archeologist, he could give so much info to so many topics, I hope if he comes back eventually, they bring a proper topic and discuss it in detail, or maybe go through a handful in a lightning round.