Episode 6 - Internalized Homophobes

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The Navel Gays

The Navel Gays

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How much of a role does internalized homophobia play in the decision to transition?
This podcast is the regurgitation of an in depth conversation about the experience of autosexuality (sexual or romantic attraction to oneself), which often manifests as homosexuality. Meta sexuality is the ingredient that seems to turn auto sexuality into homosexuality.
Here is a glossary of terms for anyone not already steeped in sexological discourse:
Auto = self
Allo = other
Gyne = female
Andro = male
Meta = self-referential
To use in a sentence… an allogynephilic male is the clinical term for straight man. He is male, and experiences external attraction to females. Lesbians, which both your hosts here are (regardless of how Aaron feels about that word), are also allogynephilic. But in the hosts case it appears to be the result of autosexuality. For Tali, that was attraction to her own female body projected externally. For Aaron, that was the manifestation of an internal desire to be male (meta-attraction). How many other lesbians can trace their allogynephilia to autosexuality?

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@h.orrore
@h.orrore Ай бұрын
This was a great episode! You guys rock. I love how non-partisan you both are -- not obsessively woke or anti-woke. Really operating outside of the culture war. Very refreshing. I just subscribed. 🤘🏼
@phililly
@phililly Ай бұрын
Haven't listened yet but lmao at the title (I'm assuming this is about autogynephobia and autoandrophobia)
@miroirs-jumeaux
@miroirs-jumeaux Ай бұрын
hey Phil!
@TheNavelGays
@TheNavelGays Ай бұрын
Yes, and then some!
@cormorant12
@cormorant12 Ай бұрын
Another aspect that gets interpreted as "internalised homophobia" is masochism. "I want to bottom for a man while the idea simultaneously disgusts me and I don't understand why but it's still hot" is not a femboy hating the fact that he's gay, it's masochistic attraction which is common in AGP.
@cormorant12
@cormorant12 Ай бұрын
"Sex between masculine men is gross, at least one participant needs to be feminine (even if only in his own fantasy)" is a reliable marker of AGP/GAMP. No gay man, no matter how self-hating, finds masculine hunks repulsive.
@RussBlake80
@RussBlake80 4 күн бұрын
Im an agp, have been since childhood, and made worse after puberty, i never was interested in women or men however had several crushes on men throughout my life which grossed me out. I did eventually get with a woman who was quite masc and tough when u was 21. I never enjoyed sex. Was never turned on by her, and at the same time i have never been with a guy in the bedroom to see if i enjoy that. Ive done drag before at the point of not being able to stand seeing myself as a soft natured baby faced man anymore, and would dance in gay clubs for just over a year which was great, however my daughter who i had with that same girl was growing up and i knew i couldnt be selfish engaging in such perverse behaviour, she needed her dad. So i dont engage anymore. Im probably gonna be single for the rest of my life and live for my daughter which jsnt such a bad thing. As shes amazing. Coincidentally shes turned out to be lesbian however presents very girly, whilst at the same time has some tomboyish elements..think its the adhd, it makes guys feel like girls and girls feel like boys. Such a crazy topic to try and get to the bottom of. Doubt we ever will fully. And one more thing, when i did watch porn which i dont anymore i used to watch girls to learn and mimic them not because i was turned on by what i was watching.
@lizicadumitru9683
@lizicadumitru9683 Ай бұрын
Perfect timing...gym session! ❤😂
@miroirs-jumeaux
@miroirs-jumeaux Ай бұрын
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