Eps 371: Why Can’t I Find My Favorite Bullets?

[@jeanmorin3247]

Your one-shot rifle is so original and so much 'yours'! -- I see it as a dream hunting friend, and you just have to learn to work together. The 7-57 is the round with the most history in the world. May you have golden times, the two of you.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Thanks Jean. You "get it!"

[@dthunter2506rem]

There is something to say about carrying a rifle that checks off every box that we could hope for! Years ago, I worked with a custom gunsmith and he helped me make a few rifles to all of my personal specs. What an opportunity! We built the barrels from solid bar stock and went from there. Those guns will follow my family tree with my boys!

[@patrioticspartan]

You have to be one of the best rifle and ammo reviewer. Too many content creators only shoot from a bench. They dont even bring up practical accuracy like you have. As a novice hunter and competition shooter i hear how you need a better rifle, better ammo, or more practice when i share that i do 2-3" 5 shot groups at 100 from sitting. Not from a bench. That is realistic accuracy.

[@45-70Guy]

I have just as much fun reloading and finding good recipes as I do hunting. If anything it gives you plenty of trigger time and gets you close and personal with your rifle to know what it likes.

[@warrengreen3217]

I love reloading to but lets not act like reloading is the same as it used to be up to about 5-6 years ago I cant get primers or certain powders most of the time I was lucky and a shop didn't have large primers but they did have 7.62 military primers only difference I was told is there a little harder where firing pin hits and they are a little hotter, but its not the same as it was where you could go to your local gun shops and they always had what you needed

[@45-70Guy]

@@warrengreen3217I hear what you’re saying, since I was a kid I have always prepared to have what I use on hand. Maybe it was the boy scouts that taught me that I’m not sure, but even today I’m still utilizing components from 10+ years ago. The components I’ve been using that are not from say before the lockdowns, I have just acquired as they become available which can be slow and sparse. Maybe because it’s my main hobby I have focused strongly on it just to make sure I could continue doing it and testing if I was unable to find components. I believe with just about everything the convenience of just going to the store and finding everything you need will be gone for a long time , whether it’s reloading components, electrical supplies, or food. It’s a large scale sign we all need to look out for.

[@kcstott]

The neat thing about a polymer tip is the seam between the copper and the polymer, it has been found that this little groove causes something aerodynamic with the air flowing around the bullet. It reduces the BC slightly but is makes the BC more consistent. this has been tested with doppler radar

[@dthunter2506rem]

Contrary to popular belief, Nosler was not the first to come out with a polymer tipped bullet. In the early 80's I remember the Imperial ammunition company in Canada was producing a white tipped (ploymer), called the sabre tip. Some were also black tipped. Keep up with the great content Ron! I really enjoy your channel.

[@papaswoodshop4873]

Ron PLEASE get rid of that Park West rifle. Send it to me so I can suffer with it. I'm sure I can endure owning such a disappointing rifle.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Thanks for the fine offer, Papa. I'm going to struggle on with it a bit longer, but will surely call you if I come to the breaking point!

[@pepepepito623]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors wait a minute, I am pepe and offering 5% more than "papa"...

[@brickhammerSS]

Lol

[@redbeard123]

I thought my super grade model 70 had some really nice wood until seeing your park west absolutely beautiful rifle

[@thomasdaniel6495]

Ron,I love watching yhese videos,so keep up the great work.I have two comments on this one. 1. I love your S10 and wish you the best of luck with it.I think to many people now are obsessed with super tight groups,and we all want them for sure.But,that rifle is a true hunters dream for a field rifle,and I agree,its plenty accurate for the use you intend for it. 2. In response to the gentleman looking for a complete pass through on his shots,I agree and think the LRX may work,but I also would suggest the tried and true Nosler Partition.I have used them for many years on whitetails in a variety of calibers.I had a 257 Roberts for awhile and loaded 120 grain partitions in it to I believe it was around 2800 fos,but dont remember exactly.I always have a good blood trail,not that Ive ever needed it much.Typical the deer go from dead where they stood,out to forty yards and it looks like someone threw a bucket of red paint out.Just a humble suggestion.

[@Darth_Boons]

One of my dream guns is a Quigley sharps with an octagonal barrel such a beautiful piece of equipment.

[@Clayman5577]

I got a 308 that went thru break in rounds and shot 2 inch groups . Over the next couple years cloverleaf . Same ammo . Accuracy is 95 percent a mental game . Especially from the bench

[@moonray1276]

Lots of wisdom from an Old hand. No offense with the "Old". Especially on the accuracy expectations of guns, you definitely make well reasoned responses. Thanks Ron.

[@wilberfifer5563]

Thanks Ron, Your the voice of reason.

[@Patriot36]

Reloading can accomplish things in a rifle that you'd never expect. When I was 14-15 years old, one of my first early deer rifles was a 80's era, Model 81, Japan Browning BLR in .308 with Leupold 2-7 vari-x II, mounted with low-profile, blued, Conetrol mounts. I purchased that rifle with scope from my dad back in 1985 for $300 using money I earned on my newspaper route. It's slick, fairly light and quite handy with16.5' barrel and 2X option, perfect in the Parissawampitts Canyon thickets of the Kiabab plateau. It was a big step up from the open sighted, Browning B-92 lever in .44mag that used to kill my first deer with when I was 13. I've killed a lot of mule deer, elk and coyotes with that BLR, almost all of them offhand, supported by tree and once kneeling. At the places we hunted then, shots were usually under 200 yards with the average being 75-100 yards. I saw great terminal performance using a 170gr Hornady lead Flatpoint pushed to about 2600fps. I shot most mule deer in the neck when possible as it dropped them instantly and made processing a piece of cake. I never had to chase a single animal using that load, due mainly to that particular bullet and the close distances I was shooting. Tack driving accuracy was never the primary consideration because of the limited ranges but that load would shoot a bit over 2" on average. Nearly a decade later I worked up a 165gr Nosler Ballistic tip load for that rifle that saw consistent groups under 1.75" which I killed Mulies with out to 325 yards. Several friends used that rifle and load for their first time hunting experiences with 5 more deer and two cow elk taken. In 2023 I refined that load further through more tedious case preparation, seating depth experimentation and about .75gr less 4895 power. The first time at the bench, I shot two 5 shot, 100 yard groups measuring .83 and .94" with the 7x scope! I couldn't believe it and the best part was that my dad was there to see it. From the bench next to him, I told him to direct his spotting scope at my target. He looked at the two groups, then looked over to see what rifle I was shooting and he put his hand on his head in disbelief. Target selection is a factor a lower magnification of course and I had used some of those 3" blaze orange stickers which allowed the perfect amount of orange to peak from each corner of the duplex reticle that covered it, making aiming as consistent as possible. Part of me wants to experiment with a spare 16x scope but there's a certain tradition with that rifle in that it's never had the scope off.... I think I'll leave well enough alone, since I have precision bolt guns for that role. You just always wonder what you could eke out from a particular set up.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Wonderful story about your discoveries, Patriot. Thanks.

[@rogue5643]

Ron, I'm at Sturgis this week to see some friends and do the rally. But wanted you to know I also came to visit Park West. Tim I believe showed me around the shop, boy I was a kid in a candy store. We talked about your new rifle and he said you were going to come out with this video on bullets. Saw a # 10 manlicher in 22 rf that was beautiful. Your a lucky man. God bless you

[@Patriot36]

11:48 Being a life long shooter, hunter, reloader in my mid 50's, with my Dad and Grandad as mentors, my first thought would have been to ask questions if the outcome wasn't what I expected. It seems the human "thought" process has changed for the worst but maybe that has something to do with the flagrant intuitions of the average youtube viewer. Do they think accuracy is completely tied to the rifle? This perceived issue is no big deal for the experienced hand loader and even expected. Reloading will usually result in more disappointing loads vs. the few formulas that end up being spectacular. It's called "working up a load" kids and most of the time you're not going to discover that load on the first try.

[@Patriot36]

Free float that falling block already, Ron! haha! :) People used to just know but the world has changed with more growing up in the cities. Perhaps it's the difference between being raised with access to a rack or room full of rifles from the 1800's to present and someone who just watched youtube until their first firearms purchase at 23 years of age. Hey, nobody knows everything but people used to recognize their own inexperience and asked more questions. Now they just seem to spout thus revealing their shortcomings.

[@BornAgain2019]

That Parkwest rifle along with the Ruger No1 are falling block actions if I'm not mistaken and not break actions like TC Encores and CVA Scouts. But at any rate it's not too much to ask that a high quality hunting rig consistently group most rounds within 1.5 inches @ 100 yds. Loved the videos Woo Tee Woo posted of you all having a great time in Wyoming at Weatherby.

[@davidbrock1565]

That SD 10 meets your hunting needs, is sentimental, chambered in a classic round, and has taken game! Sounds good enough to me. Your reloading skill will figure it out. Love the single shot rifles

[@cenccenc946]

I forgot I even made that comment at 16:20 . The ironic thing is, I have since bought a car, that in some countries has a speed rate limiter on it; but, I have found I can not handle the car at high enophe speed to test if it is enabled on my car. I guess we all need some practice. 😀

[@brianschumaker5912]

If you can't find commercial bullets that meet your needs you may have to go to your second option. Buy a mold and make your own cast bullets. The trick is getting them up to the proper hardness and using gas checks to get as much velocity as possible. Yes , you may have to cut the velocity back from jacketed bullets , but you'll still be able to shoot your firearm.

[@brianschumaker5912]

Bought a Savage mod 11FC back in the early 90s. Did a proper barrel break in. I do still get 1/2 moa groups with carefully crafted handloads. Yes, I do admit I have to do my part. The weather conditions have to be perfect, and im using a good bipod. No bull. As for the barrel break in. I learned this from David Tubb. He called it bullet lapping. He has changed his thinking a little since the 90"s, but i think he is pushing his final finish system. You did cover this in a video about 3 years ago. I am a firm believer in bullet lapping. First, clean barrel thoroughly. Then shoot 10 single shots with a cleaning AND de-copperizing with a phosphor bronze brush between each shot. This gives completely bare steel for the next shot. Then shoot 5 groups of 3 with copper cleaning between each group. You might not need all 5 shot groups. When you dont see any blue residue on the patch after a 3 shot group, the barrel is good to go. Let your patch tell you what's going on. You will notice a difference on the patches as you go. This smooths out any tool marks that might be in the barrel or throat. It's a lot of work but in my opinion well worth it. And it's a fun day at the range instead of doing the honeydo list!

[@pepepepito623]

26" barrel and eboni stock (specific gravity of 1.17) a team is needed to carry it to the range...

[@bobbygreen2291]

Ron ,,love the shows and your new beautiful rifle ,I don’t comment much but had to try to help this time ,,I’ve watched all your recent videos even though you don’t give us too many fine details about your loads and I understand why you don’t ,,this is something that took me many tries to figure out with all the variables with reloading,,the first single shot rifle I tried to load for whipped my butt until I figured out that they were very sensitive to seating depth unlike a good bolt gun ,,I want you to try this with your new rifle loads load three bullets just like you’ve been loading except leave the bullet sticking out far enough to come within six thousands of the lands ,,then take those three and shoot your best group just to see if this idea would help your group size. I hope it does.

[@ricktaylor5744]

Ron that rifle is a beautiful work of art i would love to own one even half as pretty. Some times changing gunpowder types can effect accuracy ( ball powder versus extruded). Just a thought.

[@dukefanshawe6815]

I'm thinking of getting the same rifle in 6.5x55. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that cartridge over the 6.5 Creedmoor since they are very similar.

[@kentowens2179]

Ron, if you are happy with your rifle, that's all that matters. If you want a tackdriver, build a bench gun in a accuracy caliber, .i.e. 6 PPC. I think it IS a beautiful rifle!

[@abbeybremner4162]

One advantage of supressors on rifles can be that the point of carry shifts in front of a protruding magazine due to more forward weight

[@marklomax7452]

a stock that is full length ebony will be very heavy- and good luck finding an ebony blank!

[@TonyMarasco-j6e]

I like your approach...keep the single shot ( P.W) Myself, I would need to exhaust all possibilities and perhaps minor gunsmithing options before giving up on it. Jim , was correct the Ruger #1 did " break my heart" after trying everything I could. It was 7x57 as well. I have grown to like and use single shot rifles for Big Game hunting but the #1 disappointed me too. Here is why. I hunt horseback exclusively, and always looking for light , fast and short hunting rifles. I am not a shotgunner, so the tang safety ...is not safe enough for me.. I messed with the barrel channel issues/ hanger without seeing improvement. The rifle lost a coil spring set screw( on the lever) the action would not hold closed without that silly screw and spring. I found this on the last trip to the range before a Northern B.C. fly in trip. I would of been out of luck if I did not catch this problem prior The tiny coil spring is impossible to find in and around the shooting bench. I am also a lever rifle guy and prefer a external hammer...so I replaced it with a Browning B78 My 1% of wisdom Cheers

[@chrisowen5497]

I’ve found that a lot of people have very unrealistic expectations about rifle accuracy. Part of the fun is finding that “sweet”spot for accuracy. An example of this is my Browning BAR Safari in 30-06 would shoot differently sometimes. What I found is the forearm screw would pull the stock close to the barrel on one side if you weren’t careful. I made an adjustment so it would always seat the same way every time. Now, I have a sweet shooter, every time. I have lots of other similar situations for other rifles, but they work out. Then, there’s the ammo……😊

[@JkwJewish]

Kinda sad for O Gs . Its all ar-15s 2K yard drops on elk. 9mm or 500 s&w magnums shot one handed. I saw a laser sight on a Bow for cripes sake! at least Griffin and Howe still consider the FN 98 mauser action as " particularly fine"

[@SD-vr6nv]

What a lovely rifle! I am enjoying your quest for a good load.If Park West used a factory load for testing,could you use the same load as a control in your experimenting.Stuart, New Zealand.

[@jwdundon]

I bought from Nosler, "factory second" bullets FROM THE FACTORY with BUSTED plastic tips. - Very VERY VERY discounted price. They shoot JUST FINE for "plinking" or hunting bullets up to 300 yards. (As an Oregon Hunter, I don't often shoot past 300 yards, I HAVE shot up to 800 yards to kill, but, not often). Broken tips don't affect accuracy, In My Experience.

[@doylethorn9251]

Concerning the gentleman with the 6.5 Creed and losing animals. Bullet placement may be the issue. I have found that some people think that behind the crease is behind the shoulder. Those shots only hit the back of the lungs and liver. Which results in slower death. Straight up the front leg and slightly forward is actually the behind the shoulder shot. There is no need for a blood trail when you take out the heart and or the front of the lungs.

[@rojellyocordova9729]

Hey Ron I recently picked up a Ruger American ranch rifle. In 5.56 I’m looking to make an All round rifle from planking to hunting on a budget. I constantly see that people take deer with 223/556 but then at the same time people have trouble with the caliber. I was wondering if you owned this rifle in this caliber. what would you do? And what would you recommend shooting through it? It has a 16 inch alloy steel barrel and a one and eight twist

[@billhatcher2984]

Ebony weighs easy twice as muchas a dence walnut

[@allennolen5279]

If you are a reloader I just sold two boxes of 375 bullets to the trading post in Farnham Va. he probably would be willing to ship them to anyone if you want them. If you don’t mind tell I recommend him to you thanks

[@ricktaylor5744]

As for the suppressor that the bullet hit . One possibility is that the bullet came apart in flight. This has happened with my son's 7 mm Remington mag. Using 180 gr Hornady bullet. And a fast twist barrel the bullet would explode in flight at about 40 yards from the muzzle, you could see a cloud ☁️ of smoke. And nothing hit the 100 yard 4'x8' paper target. It was a bad batch of projectiles. The high velocity and fast twist rate coupled with Sharp rifling caused them to come apart.

[@michaelcollins5287]

6.5 creed is very high at 50 yards and under they are hitting the void, the doe I shot last year was at 10 and I was aiming good center mass and took out 5 vertebrae instead of lungs

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Michael, that is not caused by the cartridge, but the zero setting someone chose for that rifle. Think about it: if your sight is 1.5 to 2 inches above your bore, your bullet emerges that low. But if your reticle is set to strike, say, 6 inches high at 100 yards, your 140-gr. 6.5 CM bullet at 2,700 fps would be just .86" high at 25 yards. At 10 yards you'd still be 1/2-inch low. Something else is going on.

[@pattysmith536]

G’day Ron, Mate I think you will find that when people are mentioning for you to try using a bipod. They’re meaning for you to use the bipod for shooting groups off of your bench!! “Not” to use one while hunting in the field. Because I’ve heard you read that same suggestion out a few times now, and every time you answer it by saying that you have found them to be impractical in most hunting situations. But that’s not what they’re trying to suggest to you, as you don’t carry your bench and front rest with you while out hunting either. Kind regards Patty Smith 🇦🇺

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Fair point, Patty. I might try some mounted bipod groups one of these times. But not with this SD-10 due to its barrel mounted stud connection.

[@missey3164]

Id like to know where all the older caliber bullets have gone

[@guloguloguy]

THANKS, RON!! IMHO: I HAVE NEVER LIKED ANY "PEEP-SIGHTS", OR, "GHOST-RING SIGHTS"!! I DON'T LIKE HAVING ANYTHING BLOCKING THE VIEW OF THE TARGET...

[@zayacz123]

If one person with a 1 MOA rifle claims it’s more accurate him and another person claims he’s more accurate than his 1.5 MOA rifle, who’s right? All I know is that’s one beautiful, accurate rifle!

[@shanerhodes925]

What do you use to get a barrel really clean?? I clean my rifles Everytime I shoot them. I use hoppes and a bronze brush then dry patches. I am not sure what else to do. However. I just bought a Browning x bolt in 308 and it has not performed quite right always throws one shot. Driving me nuts. Is there something I should try as far as cleaning goes? Thanks.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Un unclean barrel is not the likely cause of one thrown shot per string, but to thoroughly clean use your carbon solvent and patches repeatedly until they come out clean. Then switch to a copper solvent and repeat until they come out with no blue (0xidized gilding metal/copper) on them.

[@shanerhodes925]

@@RonSpomerOutdoors I started this with a brand new rifle. And broke barrel in according to my rules one shot clean 3 times then 3shots clean twice then five shots clean twice. And it did it straight out of the box really. So I'm lost. However I will strip it of copper and give it a try. Thanks Ron for your help.

[@davidfornkahl8374]

The comments about the Ruger #1s that are ---- Negative, well I have 3 and are very accurate. One is a .218 BEE, one is a .250 Savage, and the other is a 6mm Remington. I have only gandloaded for the 6mm and .218bee. The only thing aggravating to me is----- I get3 shots touching at 100 yds with factory Hornady 60 gr. Flat points. I can't get that good , YET, with handloads.

[@Yetified_Mayhem]

1/2 MOA 700 yds hunters are more common these days than practical bastards.

[@bekkerbosbeer3453]

Yes Ron ad usual you are right, i have no idea who wants a hunting rifle and wants to get 1/4 moa 😂 you only shoot once maybe twice at a animal....if your accuracy is off from one shot sure ...

[@sindeecharlton8857]

Most Henry Lever Guns do NOT have a floating Barrel. Yet once a person learns to shoot one, the game don't care.

[@csipawpaw7921]

I agree, ignore those comments. Every rifle is unique and one of the true joys in shooting, and reloading is the search for and finding that near-perfect combination of projectile, powder, and primer for that specific rifle, and the wild game you're hunting. Continue to have fun. I hope you work up great loads for different wild game and conditions. The 7x57mm Mauser is a great cartridge for experimentation. I'm so jealous!

[@swampdonkey3278]

Always love the videos but with yout 6.5 Creedmoor I don't know what it is but I hate that round with so many different bullets and different bullets it has did very poorly. And im not trying to talk bad about smaller bullets i use a 25/06 and 22-250 for most hunting in Texas

[@peterconnan5631]

Hey Ron, I love your silly expensive and inaccurate single-shot rifle! Stick with it, it's more than good enough, and I bet you can shoot that rifle better off-hand than many of the complainers will be able to do with their plastic fantastics.

[@peterconnan5631]

Actually, I've just watched one of the episodes where the comments are coming from, and I've found the problem: It's you complaining about the rifle. All the comments are just responding to that.

[@michaelcollins5287]

If parkwest is guaranteed 1/2 moa you shouldn't have to work up 20 different loads to get consistent 1 moa groups, you are a great shooter and more than capable of at least 1 moa. The flyers is what would be worrying me, 2 in the same hole then off by an inch and a half. Sounds like the rifle not the load. If they shot it to 1/2 moa before shipping what load did they use, I would try it and see if it will do it with that

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

The guarantee is MOA, not half. I've already gotten that.

[@allthingsconsidered3211]

I think the poster with 6.5cm needs to work on shot placement. The older eyes might not be as good

[@JohnTBlock]

Why do single-shots seem to have such accuracy problems, Ron? First I've heard it alluded to...

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Two piece stocks do not allow for a solid "floor," a bedding surface for the receiver to rest upon while the barrel is free "floated" to oscillate undisturbed or full length bedded to increase barrel stiffness.

[@lawrencestanley8989]

See, that's why people should shoot black powder rifles like God intended. You can make your own powder. You can make your own primers. And you can order custom bullet molds based on your own bullet design and cast your own from hard or soft lead.

[@lmbear]

Doesn't Park west have an accuracy guarantee, and send you a target of how your rifle does? How did that target look? Would be interesting to see what they shot in your rifle. It's a "hunting" rifle, so hopefully they tested it with hunting bullets. Inquiring minds thing..

[@samwernerb5424]

Ron you stayed that riflemam magazine displayed rifles of just under 1 moa to 1.5 moa for 3 shot group. Actually NRA always utilizes 5 shot groups to display accuracy. That makes it even more impressive!

[@ItalianShooter01]

Get a Bergara BA13

[@JohnTBlock]

So, copper fouling can really mess up accuracy...

[@patrioticspartan]

It can. Every rifle and bullet combo is different

[@anthonyjbargeman5280]

I like your rifle. I think Betsy did you real fine. A beautiful piece from a beautiful woman. Enjoy.

[@davidfornkahl8374]

But if Jim Carmichael made that comment, by God, listen to him, not me, that guy is a LEGEND!!!!!

[@bekkerbosbeer3453]

6.5 creedmore is very overrated, 6.5x55 you can shoot 156 gr/160 gr and then of course shot placement is key ontop of bullet selection

[@lylewalters909]

Hey Ron.. the 243 may not be able to compare to the 6.5 cry baby, but in my opinion, the 260Rem will easily step out , out shoot, out, run, and out class the 6.5cry baby. Yes, I own both, and I do hand load both. The huge problem with 6.5 Crybaby is that it's too SLOW! I have no trouble getting 3000 fps with my 260Rem. I struggle to get 2900 with the 6.5 cry baby. Oh, why do I call it the cry baby?? LOL, glad you ask. A few of my friends had to run out and buy the 6.5 crybaby because they just had to have the newest,latest, and greatest cartridge going. As a friend, I did try to warn them, but unfortunately, the advertisement had a sharper tongue than I did, and they tripped over their wives' purse to get to the gun store, lol. Now, every year, we get to meet up out on the woods of northern Michigan to track their deer. Finally, last year, i convinced the last 2 guys to work up 120 or 127gr TTSX loads so we could stop having to track these 200 plus pound bucks. Oh ya, also making them keep their shots under 300yards also made a huge difference. Just because a cartridge is accurate out to 500,700 even 800yrds doesn't mean they are accurate out to yjat yardage. If I want to shoot paper or steel at 500 to 1000 plus yards I will grab the crybaby out of the safe. Yes, the 260Rem is just as if not more capable of doing the same thing, but let's be honest. t The crybaby kicks less, and I'm getting old, lol. The 260 in my experience and opinion does a better job on a big northern Michigan whitetails.

[@Steve-ev6vx]

One thing I have noticed with polymer tips is no blood trail. It leaves a gigantic exit wound and imparts hug amounts of shock, but the deer doesnt bleed like with a traditional mushrooming softpoint.

[@RonSpomerOutdoors]

Steve, I can't imagine a tiny cone of plastic altering hemorrhaging in the slightest. Most bullet makers advertise the tip drives back into the lead core or copper hollow to initiate or increase expansion after which the usual expanded bullet rips and tears until it passes through or stops. It would stay in one piece with some bullet construction, remain in one lump and pass through with others, but I can't imagine any way in which it would reduce bleeding.

[@abbeybremner4162]

Im just not the most accurate shooter in the world. Im good enuf for my self imposed hunting ranges, but we cant all be dead eye dicks

[@gloryfire_official]

Hi sir. Are you open to a product review? Could you share the email with us?

[@williamkirby-wt7su]

Stacking tolerances are when all the tolerances in the assembly are added together. Industry standard is +-.003 inch per part unless otherwise stated on the machinist print(out). If all parts are max spec on a ten-piece assembly then it would be +.030 total out of spec or -.030 if all were minimum spec (stacked). Usually the pluses and minuses cancel each other out. Threaded parts also have tolerances with larger threads having larger tolerances. this allows for tooling wear. If a new tap was used the female threads would be cut on the max side and a worn die would cut the male threads on the minimum side of tolerance. If each was .003 inch that would be .006 per threaded interface. Ten assemblies x .006 = .060 inches (stacked tolerance). If the silencer baffles became loose and began to unthread then they would "droop" down into the bullet channel and allow bullet to strike them and shave bullet material and accuracy would be long gone.

[@davejones6006]

Those four boards behind you look like a horse butt and head. They better not get rid of 17 wsm I just bought a rifle in it.

[@patcoder7308]

F1 IS AUTO RACING

[@lmbear]

Losing a little respect for you, when you bring up that putz backfire. That guy doesn't know wth he's talking about. You can carry on though Ron. Your rifle should be shooting 3/4", especially when you are only shooting 3 shots per group. Generally guys in the know, will shoot 5 shots, minimum, to prove out a rifle and load.