Equestria Girls Makes Zero Sense, Here's Why

My Little Pony's spin-off, Equestria Girls, definitely has a fun concept, reimagining ponies as humans. However, this is not without strange plot holes and inconsistencies between the two worlds. In this video, we'll be going over a few of these weird unexplained questions, and I'll be trying to answer them to the best of my abilities.
Strap in for a lot of overthinking and pointless analysises.
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[@geoffreybanditt4355]

I think it would had mad a lot more sense if the characters in Equestria Girls were college students instead of High School students because going by the age group of the main characters in friendship is magic they were obviously young adults. If the ponies were meant to be teens they would had been shown in the story as high school students just like the cutie mark crusaders being elementary school students.

[@bbbyyf.]

Yeah but remember, this show is aimed at kids, so most things won't make much sense/ be very logical to older audiences. Let's say whoevers watching the show is under 10. A LOT of shows are centered around highschool characters( no matter how mature the show is) because it attracts more people (ex. Heartbreak high, NHIE, Twilight, Heartstopper) The ponies being in college may seem too mature(?) Bc like I said, the shows aimed at a young audience, and middle school or elem. would be too young. Mlp being in college seems super realistic tho and I rlly love the sound of it

[@gabbycraft7035]

Yeah I think it’s like the other comment said. High school is really hyped up in a lot of movies and stuff already so putting them in high school instead of college was probably geared towards kids who wouldn’t notice or care about inconsistencies. Plus people would probably start asking about bills and stuff if they were in college.

[@Hirogaru_Shoujo122]

Also I don't get why they turn into half ponies in rainbow rocks when they are human and I don't get why they have unnatural skin in the show/movie

[@geoffreybanditt4355]

@@Hirogaru_Shoujo122 I'm guessing that they did they the unnatural skin colours so stupid people wouldn't berserk about all of their racism nonsense. Though even from when Equestria Girls all that stuff did look odd at first. They would had looked better with natural skin colours though.

[@regularly_priced]

Who says they have the exact same aging system(and school system) as we do? They may not have high school at the same time. It’s a different dimension, after all

[@elviejomonca4719]

Short explanation is, Hasbro wanted to compete with Mattel's Monster High; that's why the characters are teenagers in HS instead of adults, that's why they kept their colorful skin, that's why ancient authority figures are reduced to school principals and directors; they wanted to emulate MH as much as possible regardless if it made sense or not within the show's internal logic.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

I honestly think they just didn’t want to give them human races.

[@emilbutts6662]

@@imthebossmermaid3648 same, I doubt that Hasbro wanted to deal with the backlash

[@aertnadle2466]

I mean Doug and Big City Greens also have colorful skin for humans too.

[@thatgirleliyah]

I think they did it cuz them being in high school would've most likely been more popular considering a lot of kid shows/movies feature middle schoolers or high schoolers. It could also just be that the way they age in human years vs pony years could be different

[@lauryngiovannacappal713]

No wonder theyre human design looked so similar to MH

[@danielattrell]

Also Sunset Shimmer’s age is confusing. Celestia says she use to be her student, but Twilight didn’t know about her existence until the first movie. Twilight became Celestia’s student when she was a kid.

[@aertnadle2466]

I doubt Sunset's that old (she's way younger looking than Principal Celestia, Vice Principal Luna, and the other Canterlot High teachers) considering she's in the same classes as the rest of the Rainbooms and Schedule Swap shows she takes advanced physics with Sci-Twi so she wasn't held back either. Plus no one in the show comments on Flash dating Sunset before the first movie in the sense of him dating an adult (and I doubt Sunset is a pedophile). Sunset could've easily been say 13-ish when she left Equestria for the human world (considering pony society does work differently than humans, her being 13 when she was Celestia's student ain't far fetched) with time likely passing differently in Equestria than the human world.

[@EmeralBookwise]

It might be that not only are ages inconsistent between worlds, but time flows differently as well. We know Sunset had won the previous three fall formals, suggesting she's been in the human world for at least that many years, but maybe it had been a decade or more in Equestria.

[@asiodioweioi]

I don't know if the comics are canon to the show, but in one issue tells Sunset's backstory. When Celestia is teaching Sunset (who's around the mane 6's current/normal age at this time) Twilight is shown as a foal in the background. Just makes it like 10x more confusing...

[@Horgler]

@@asiodioweioi The show went through so many changes in vision, changes in staff and corporate meddling over time. Trying to reconcile everything together is an impossible task.

[@franciscodavi1323]

she always looked like 21 to 23 years to me

[@thelllleht8122]

It is not implied that the Mane Six are adults. They are adults. The show even says it. Filly Dash to adult Twilight on season 5: "You are a full grown pony!" Applejack to Apple Bloom: "This is grown-up stuff". Rainbow Dash in The Cart before the Ponies: "And it's probably best keeping all the grown-ups on the sidelines. But... what are we supposed to do now?" Just look at this conversation between Scootaloo and Twilight in Growing Up is Hard to Do: Scootaloo: "I'm pretty sure if you wanted to go to the fair, you could." Twilight Sparkle: "Sure, grown-ups can do a lot of things that foals can't. But there's plenty we can't do either. Like right now, I can't find a single reference to this flower!" It doesn't make sense for a teenager to be the principal of a school. Twilight is an adult. Equestria Girls defies logic because an adult (pony Twilight) becomes a teenager for the sake of the plot.

[@lunakingsley.7247]

The pony CMC seem to be nine or ten yet the human CMC go to highschool and seem to be older. Equestria girls ages are inconsistent

[@EffMinus]

Good point! I always thought of them to be adults, but apparently Mrs. Faust said they're teens, so I didn't really know how to properly phrase that sentence.

[@moonbowcraze1632]

i think in equestria they might just consider teenagers as adults?

[@curepinkie1637]

@@EffMinus Faust only worked on season 1-2 so maybe they just aged while the show went on like each season = one year? by equestria girls they would be at least 17 or 18 which would make sense since they are seniors in high school and EG doesn't follow the same format as FiM since it's movies and not episodes

[@psychotophatcat]

@@EffMinus When did she say that?! Rarity literally owns a business, how is she a teenager?

[@Mis93747]

How it works is Pony=human Everything else:whatever’s convenient for the plot

[@twiwss]

the flurry heart as a principal thing made me stop breathing

[@Thewolfguys.cartoons2000]

Same lol

[@hackidreemurr]

Also Humanville High 😂😂

[@bob8mybobbob]

“Would she be born a principal?” absolutely broke me Now I want the scene where animators somehow make it clear that a baby is a principal, and everyone is losing their minds

[@manngehen]

just like that ep in gumball where Nicole was born? "it's a...president?" xD

[@Pingwn]

The birth of a principal is something the human world has never seen!

[@blackcat80yearsago96]

Human Celestia coming out of the womb with the suit already on striking a resting bech face like that "queen never cry" baby meme lmao.

[@charemchavrutah]

I'm pretty sure Spike becoming a dog is more metaphorical or symbolic. It displays his loyalty and closeness to Princess Twilight. He is her #1 Assistant in the same way a dog is a man's best friend.

[@djstarkidmashups8536]

Yeah, but he would've been a human too. Owlowiscious is Twilight's pet, not Spike. Also, he's Twilight's adoptive brother, because she's the one that hatched him.

[@Green_Kirby]

​​​​@@djstarkidmashups8536yeah, making Spike a dog felt more like an insult than symbolism

[@nightshroud9671]

By that logic, RD should have been a dog since she's the Element of LOYALTY. It makes no sense. He's a SAPIENT being and Twilight's best friend aside from the Mane 5.

[@nightshroud9671]

@@Green_Kirby And it screwed him badly in fanworks since everyone is acting like its a taboo to have him be human. Which results him getting left out alot in many cool crossover fics since he's stuck as a dog. People, ITS NOT THAT FUCKING HARD TO MAKE HIM HUMAN.

[@nevaeh9125]

Another thing about the ages; if we're going off the age correlation in the video then what about Sweetie Bell, Scootalo, and Apple Bloom? We see them running around Canterlot High, but in the Pony World they're basically in Elementary School, maybe Middle School if we're being generous. Same thing applies to other characters like Snips, Snails, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon.

[@Tightenupyourspringlocks]

This always was so confusing to me!

[@lunakingsley.7247]

The pony CMC are likely to be nine or ten based on the information we have. It is possible for a ten year old to go to highschool although that would be under situations that don't really apply to the human CMC so maybe the human CMC are thirteen or fourteen so they wouldn't be to far off.

[@EffMinus]

We would have to first know the age gap between AJ and AB/Rarity and SB/etc. It could theoretically make sense if the Main 6 were in grade 12 and the CMC were in grade 8 with an age difference of five years (going by Canadian high school rules, since the show is pretty much a Canadian production). Though in the pony world, the age gap seems to be greater than five years, so pick your poison.

[@benjaminallisonii724]

I always though CHS was a 6th through 12th grade school and the CMC were around 6th-8th grade in the human world.

[@anerdwithaswitch9686]

@@lunakingsley.7247 I've always thought that the CMC and Spike were both around 10 at the start of the show and around 14 by the end of it, given their general demeanors and them being in the equivalent of elementary/middle school, plus gaining a cutie mark being a bit of an allegory for puberty. That also puts Twilight at around 22 or so at the start of the show (assuming a 10 year gap between her getting her cutie mark and Episode 1), which would make sense given that she seems to effectively be a grad student. Plus, since we know that Sunset was Celestia's student _before_ Twilight, she'd probably be around 28 during the first movie. Which has some *_very_* unsettling implications, given that she was hanging around in a high school.

[@benjaminallisonii724]

Sunset is in her mid to late twenties and goes to high school and she dated Flash, let that sink in...

[@EffMinus]

good thing she's dating ME now!!!!

[@benjaminallisonii724]

@@EffMinus LOLW

[@LannyArtist]

@@EffMinus LOL

[@langadube9611]

Isn't she older considering Twilight became Celestia's student pretty young and she never even heard of Sunset until the movie so low balling it she's probably in he mid thirties.

[@Ratassc3nt]

Is Flash s minor? Bc if he is then ain't that pedophile 💀

[@CraftyCopy]

I always had a theory that the mirror world only started to really exist after sunset went into it for the first time, so it took elements from equestria and reconstructed it into what it is now. it would explain the conundrum with the principles, and maybe ponies just age faster then humans, idk edit: oh right the Dazzlings... hmmm, actually maybe since Starswirl didn't use the mirror it didn't fully create the world, maybe the Dazzlings were stuck in limbo until somepony entered the world by mirror, I actually really like this theory because honestly I never liked any interpretation of the Dazzlings being 1000's of years old but not aging in the human world, it seems dumb to me.

[@EffMinus]

that's basically the Last Thursday theory for the inhabitants of the EG world that's quite spooky!

[@catraaaaaa]

I read the theory about the Dazzlings being unknowingly stuck in limbo for like a thousand years until sunset, a magical being, passed directly through the portal which makes sense, that means they would’ve physically been in the human world for around 3 years until the events of EQG1 (so all the headcanons of the Dazzlings causing the world wars have been laid to rest

[@SynX00X]

so thats what a Combine Elite does in their free time…watch My Little Pony…interesting choice solider…

[@eggzuki]

@@catraaaaaa luv ur username

[@andrewmalinowski6673]

The formation of the world doesn't work if you take into account "Forgotten Friendship" which had established that there was a link between the Human and Pony worlds going back to Clover the Clever. Clover was stated to have chased a sorceress "through a portal into another world" before it's revealed that the "other world" was the Human World and the memory stone used was buried on what became Canterlot High grounds, but it's likely that they could have either remained in limbo until Sunset passed through or they'd merely been in a "static state" until around the time equivalent to "Friendship is Magic"

[@lunakingsley.7247]

Human characters also seem to have some memories of their counterparts as pinkie, the CMC, and Megan seem to react to things you would think they shouldn't be aware of.

[@moonbowcraze1632]

ok but pinkie is literally just pinkie pie. gonna need examples on the cmc and megan tho.

[@lunakingsley.7247]

@@moonbowcraze1632 the CMC reference their cutie mark song multiple times along with a couple of other stuff the pony CMC where involved in. Megan reacts to applejack's name a couple of times. And that's just the stuff off the top of my head.

[@editingsinge3774]

whos megan again 😭

[@lunakingsley.7247]

@@editingsinge3774 Megan is one of the main characters of G1.

[@editingsinge3774]

@@lunakingsley.7247 ohh ok I’ve only watched g3-5

[@jellysunii]

discord in the pony world : nooo dont turn me into a marketable plushie !! discord in equestria girls : AAAAA-

[@vegetafan9922]

"I guess the writers thought it would be too weird for Human Pinkie to have an actual Alligator as a pet." Counter arrangement against the writers' decision: . . . IT'S PINKIE PIE!!! NOTHING IS TOO WEIRD WHEN IT INVOLVES HER!!!

[@GoatedDigbar]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[@Hamiltonloveforever]

I know right

[@Bitchy-girl]

FR

[@paintressanimator]

she might have been an accepted floridian/j

[@CosmicKitten67]

They all failed

[@vivixeyl5380]

Since the Canterlot people are in crystal prep. Why isn't Twilight's old friends there? They couldn't have Sci-Twi not really feel happy with her old friends in crystal prep? That couldn't have been a better idea for the friendship games and would display a good message on how you should let old things go.

[@lily_pinkyay6980]

It's not ment that canterlot people are on crystal prep, crystal prep us meant to signify Twilights life before she made friends and moved to ponyville (canterlot high). On the first episode of mlp her friends are encouraging her to come to moondancers party, saying things like "I think she cares more about books than freinds" . That's not something a crystal prepper would say

[@EnriqueLaberintico]

I thought the same. Would have been cool to have the Canterlot friends as villains, of the ones we got I really only remember the sarcastic one.

[@knightmachine9148]

For as much as I love the Equestria Girls Trilogy (so much so that I even saw it several times in four languages), I need to admit that, when it comes to its internal logic regarding the main series; its existence and execution are actually really bizarre. I gave up a long time ago to try to find a cohesive logic that explains this spin-off, but that doesn't mean that I'll stop loving these movies despite of all of their flaws and plot holes, and I can laugh every time that I notice more of these flaws. In summary, I have nothing to give to the discussion more than the fact that I loved the video and I totally would love a second part. Your videos are awesome Eff, keep going.

[@nash6568]

The inconsistencies between the worlds aside, I really enjoy the Equestria Girls series and have watched it multiple times and even am currently writing my own fanfic 😊 But yeah I see your point 😅 Though it is nice to watch as a stand alone series as well 😊

[@knightmachine9148]

​@@nash6568 Agreed. Hope we can read the story you're making eventually.

[@nash6568]

@@knightmachine9148 I actually already posted it, I can post a link here if you want?

[@knightmachine9148]

Nice! That would be great. Thank you.

[@nash6568]

@@knightmachine9148 Okay so posting a link here doesn’t work

[@FlinterWoof]

I'm glad there are still people making new pony content. Coming up with new and interesting video ideas after a decade of G4 isn't the easiest thing I'd imagine.

[@offsewingdragons9142]

G4 sucks. Give me the classic MLP or the version i grew up with (this one) anyday.

[@digitalzealot7026]

Flash sentry is kind of an oddity, too. All of the ponies have the same interests in the human world, except they don't have jobs. (Except apple jack, who seems to still work on a farm). But Flash was a guard in the Crystal Empire, but has a band in the human world, while Shining Armor works (don't know what he was actually doing though) Idk maybe that means Flash will enter the military soon in the human world? Like, I guess his protective spirit still carries over into the human world since he helps Twilight, but so does everyone else. Idk maybe pony Flash has musical hobbies that we don't know of, but why not just make him a Crystal Empire musician then??😭😭😭

[@shangothunder1055]

They do have jobs; they all worked at the mall. Sunset worked at a sushi joint, Twilight at a tech support joint, Rarity at a fashion store, Pinkie at a dinner, Rainbow at a sports store, Fluttershy at an animal shelter; while applejack worked at both a smoothie joint, and on the farm. Flash was a jobless though.

[@digitalzealot7026]

@@shangothunder1055 I mostly meant in terms of the main movie series, but this makes sense too.

[@hahayuck2169]

His relationship with Twilight was pretty much underdeveloped too :(( Kinda wanted to see them together idk

[@Airendayoo]

@@hahayuck2169 i remember i started to bored with this series, just because i can't see their relationship again lol

[@mcKaeyaa]

There's a convo in FG which can contribute to this. Sci Twi: "Shining Armor? Why is my brother here?" Cadence: "As an alumni, Principal Cinch thought he would be a great perspective." Sci Twi: "Perspective on what?" Abacus Cinch: "Why, for the Friendship Games, of course."

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

In my opinion, the reason why EG fails so hard is because It had a weak foundation unlike my little pony the show, which since the beginning had clear rules established of how the world works, EG always went with whatever happened and the only explanation ever given to us is that "magic works differently" but we're never explained in depth how exactly it works, which is weird because in the first movie Sunset makes fun of Twilight for not knowing what happens when you bring an element of Harmony into another dimension, but she spends the rest of the saga worried about what magic may do because it works differently and she doesn't understand it so at the end of the day, while when watching MLP you know what is happening and how it is happening, In EG you just wait for them to explain what's going on because you don't have a clear idea of how things work

[@victor2641]

Soooo

[@thatgirleliyah]

It might be possible that the magic later on in the other movies is different from whatever she was talking abt with the element of harmony or she knows something messed up can happen if an element of harmony is brought into the world but doesn't have a full complete understanding of what exactly happens

[@thaipankatima658]

I may be biased here, but I do enjoy the Equestria Girls. Probably due to my touch with anime. Sunset Shimmer was definitely my fav in the whole show. The only gripe I have with the movies and series was the introduction of Flash Sentry. It was clear that the writers wanted to bring in a love interest for Twilight but they simply tested the waters and went for the 'Will they/Won't they' scenario. He was hated for being a waifu stealer and such so much of the pony community didn't want him getting involved. Flash could've been so much more, but they decided to scrap the whole thing. Other than that, I find the Equestria Girls setting pretty cool.

[@EffMinus]

lol, i should've mentioned in this vid that i actually prefer EG over MLP. i'm just critical of it more because i like it more if that makes sense.

[@christiankallio8586]

Sunset is my favorite too (In all of MLP) What they did with Flash, I do like/find it funny how they moved him more and more to the background as EG went on. Like, I get why he was so prominent in the first one, more or less to fulfill the "High School Movie Checklist a la Love Interest" and as the series went on the less and less use they had for him and as a minor role in EG I say he works out fine

[@dc7981]

I mean EG is more popular then FiM in Japan for a reason… it’s basically a magical girl anime

[@thaipankatima658]

@Mario & Sonic Fan Are you thr same guy i see on onekface fimfiction? Love is Magic?

[@nightshroud9671]

What about the issue with Spike too?

[@D0VEGUM]

about the aging slower in the human world, what if the ponies age the same way real horses do?

[@paracuna]

Lauren faust made a twitter post about it recently, horses can live up to 40 to maybe 50 years old if I'm correct, so it might make sense?

[@briarbat]

I've wondered this, but it isn't supported by the show unfortunately. There is a flashback to Sweetie Belle's 5th birthday party where she looks even younger than usual and acts like your typical 5 year old. Horses in the real world are fully grown adults by age 4-6, and considering sweetie belle is definitely nowhere near adulthood, I think it's safe to say ponies don't age like their real-life counterparts.

[@GwenTennyson555]

@@paracuna and in the series finale their in there 40s or 50s

[@paracuna]

@@GwenTennyson555 human 40s or 50s, in pony world they could be just in their mid 20s

[@GwenTennyson555]

@@paracuna their are in their 20s before the series finale

[@Acyliuss]

"born as a principal" killed me.

[@doc_anubis]

I love the way you overanalyze the EqG universe, even if there is no such thing as over analyzing You mention the obvious issues that most people have realized already, but your way of getting to conclusions is really interesting. Its something you wouldnt think of immediately, or at least I wouldnt

[@EffMinus]

guys go sub to this man

[@doc_anubis]

@@EffMinus Thanks man, people who read that probably already subbed to you, but Imma say it anyway, sub to this man too!

[@patriciov.catricura3074]

Never understood why they made Gummy a Plushie because having an alligator "would look out-of-place" in Human world... I mean, everybody in Equest--... Canad--... The Human World consider having an intelligent horse disguised as a human who's powerful enough to enslave them... and DID IT is totally normal and not a Alien Invasion-level threat xD And the most important question is.... Why are Tiara, Silver Spoon, Rarity and DJ Pon-3 -being apparently utterly wealthy -studying at the low-to-middle class school instead of Crystal High?? (Probably their families already despised Cinch)

[@celebrityguest.9530]

i mean i think the simple answer is characters like dj pon-3 were too popular for hasbro to not try and find an excuse to make dolls of them as soon as physically possible haha

[@Commenter839]

I don't think Rarity is particularly wealthy. At least, her family certainly isn't. Rarity is obsessed with high class fashion, but the rest of her family is pretty normal and down to earth. As for Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, and DJ Pon-3 (I guess Octavia too), we don't really have an explanation for why their pony counterparts live in rural Ponyville either

[@magnus6609]

@@Commenter839 In the episode that Diamond Tiara's father is introduced it's said that his grandpa was one of the founders of ponyville and that their fortune comes from selling the Apple Family's zap apple jam

[@Commenter839]

@@magnus6609 That's fair, I forgot about that episode. Though afaik we don't have an explanation for any of the other apparently wealthy people living in Ponyville

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Their parents wanted to keep them down to earth and not thinking they’re better than less rich people ig?

[@TanyaDenusych]

Considering the fact that real life horses live for about 30 years, it's very likely that at the age of 17 they are mature enough to work and have families while in human world they are only highschoolers...

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Yeah that explanation seems to make the most sense. I honestly feel like they just wanted to shove everyone into a high school setting tho, which creates the eerie illusion(if accidental) that the entire world is just a high school snow globe.

[@offsewingdragons9142]

Yeah the high school world thing always felt weird to me

[@TheIceFlowe]

Meh, in FiM they do seem to age just like humans. The most likely explanation is that Hasbro didnt actually try to make it make sense, they just wanted to compete with Monster High. Thats also why i'll never consider EG as canon, especially considering it has no bearing at all on the actual show.

[@海苔-k3d]

It is unlikely that ponies in MLP age the same way as real life ponies. Let's say, people live until 80. If the mane six were only 17 years old, which is half the horse's age, it would be 40 in human world. But Twillight and the others are implied to be young adults, not someone in their fourties. It seems like the writers of Equestria Girls just didn't care much about the logic.

[@ikathiibean]

Okay so I get why Sci-Twi doesn’t have the wings in her pony form, but what doesn’t make sense is that in the Legend of Everfree, when she ponies up, she gets WINGS so that’s why it also kinda doesn’t make sense why she has wings when she ponies up but when she goes through the portal she doesn’t have wings. Edit - I would also like to see a part 2

[@-memoria-2136]

It always really bothered me why her ponied up form has not only wings, but _alicorn_ wings.

[@ikathiibean]

@@-memoria-2136 ikr that’s what doesn’t make sense. When poined up yes alicorn wings! But in pony form - no

[@NoBodyNotACrime]

@@-memoria-2136 because princess Twilight is connected to sci-twi, while pri twi worked for her wings, sci-twi didn't. That's why she doesn't have alicorn wings and it's only accessible for her in human world , not in Equestria.

[@NoBodyNotACrime]

@@ikathiibean plus princess twi was not born an alicorn, that's why sci Twi also does not wings. She didn't work for friendship after all. Just like when princess Twi was before she got her friends

[@Commenter839]

@@NoBodyNotACrime But Twilight isn't a natural alicorn. Celestia gave her those wings. Rainbow and Fluttershy having wings would make sense since their pony counterparts are pegasi, but Sci-Twi's counterpart is technically a unicorn.

[@clawcakes]

imagine being twilight and going through a magic portal and you come out as a human teenager in high school when you were previously an adult pony. what in the goddamn

[@animkotna]

you're actually right...there are so so so many unsolved questions about the human world, and that makes me think that actually the whole human world thing had a lot of things unplanned and it just turned out as a one big mess

[@BBBHuey]

One headcanon I have, is that Principal Celestia and Vice-Principal Luna are clones of Princess Celestia and Princess Luna. The mirror was in Princess Celestia's possession a very long time, so she might have had some knowledge about humans. So once Luna returned, both princesses visited the Mirror Pool, made clones of themselves and sent them to the Human World to observe and blend in.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

That’s creepy.

[@midwintersymph]

I really wanna point out how Cheerilee seems to be about the same age as the mane six in the pony world while in the human world she looks like a woman in her mid 20s while the mane six are all teens. Make it make sense

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Maybe human Cherilee just looks young for her age? Or she’s a couple years older and is a student teacher?

[@midwintersymph]

@@imthebossmermaid3648 being a young teacher would actually make sense, I agree 🤔

[@sharaheartsixx]

Cheerilee probably is older than the Mane 6 but not ridiculously older to look all that different as a pony. Like when I was 15 one of my teachers was like... 21/23 ish so that's probably whats happening with this.

[@Harudodo]

My guess is that Principal Cinch is supposed to be Queen Chrysalis. Since changelings don’t exist (to our knowledge) in the human world, Cinch might be Chrysalis’s ponysona like how Thorax had Crystal Hoof? It would match up with the principal = royalty thing. Not to mention that Cadence “overthrows” Cinch as well. The competitive nature and desire to win by any means necessary can also mirror (haha) feeding off of love in a more human way since, usually, people don’t literally feed off love It’s a bit of a stretch, but it’s the best idea I got

[@nightshroud9671]

There is a human Chrysalis actually. Only in that one app though.

[@sapphanimates]

My headcanon is that Equestrian beings like Sunset and the Dazzlings who just live in the human world, don't age, or just age incredibly slowly. This is due to some movie bs between how the worlds and their magics interact.

[@liongod360]

Back when I was a kid I legit used to think that a crush real girl was just a rip off of monster high.

[@Thewolfguys.cartoons2000]

I mean, the character designs do look kinda similar each other

[@liongod360]

@@lunaticmotorstormer Oh crap

[@liongod360]

i used the mic.

[@Nitroblitz105]

I'm surprised you didn't mention at all the fact that they have clothes coming out of the portal, we know that accessories are transferred over like Sunset's bag and Sci-Twi's glasses, so naturally it feels like they will have the same clothes going back and forth. I mean obviously we know why they didn't made Twilight come out of the portal naked, still doesn't make sense

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Maybe the mirror gave them clothes in order to fit into the human world better…and so that she doesn’t get gawked at by boys.

[@stxrlixiaa]

For me, I personally think that: Any animals that can talk: Humans Any pets that can’t talk: Pets Any assistance: Dogs/Cats I also think that The mirror existed wayyy after celestial and Luna was born so that’s why they look like they’re in their 20s-30s

[@nightshroud9671]

Really bullcrap. Assistants are not some sub-species. Spike is a SAPIENT living being.

[@Quartz_111]

Oh no- They turned gummy into a marketable plush!

[@michawegrzyn4897]

I think they just took a more meta approach. In the show, Spike is Twi's sidekick, so they made him what could fulfill that role in the "irl" world. They of course needed the main character to be in high school so they could rival in toy sales with Barbie and Monster High etc. so they just shaped this world around the concept, while trying to keep a similar role of the character or it's relation to Twilight. Might not be a very "in-universe" explanation, but i guess there'll be never an answer. We could nitpick more things obviously, for all of we know, Sunset could as well kill her human counterpart. And sure, great headcanon, but that's not information we were given by the show.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

Yep, money and rivalry. There were PLENTY of companies wanting a piece of that Monster High fame.

[@amandaslough125]

Actually, there was a canceled movie for the series. It was supposed to be the 5th and final in the saga, centered around human Sunset coming back for revenge of Pony Sunset stealing her identity and ruining her life. The ending was supposed to feature a threat of dimensional collapse if the world connections stayed open, and focus on pony Sunset's decision on which world she wanted to live in.

[@zamzamhassan2985]

@@amandaslough125That actually sounds like A VERY compelling story that could touch darker themes!

[@nightshroud9671]

That is really not a excuse to make Spike a dog. He's a SAPIENT being. By that logic, Snip and Snails should be lowly pets since they were literally Sunset's evil sidekicks/henchmen.

[@nightshroud9671]

@@amandaslough125 Did that movie mention anything for the issues about Spike?

[@monsterjambrony]

I'm so glad that you are keeping G4's spirit alive!

[@EffMinus]

if you're watching these vids, you are also keeping the G4 spirit alive! thank you!

[@monsterjambrony]

@@EffMinus You’re welcome! :)

[@hoodiefreak9206]

Also I just found something that makes the alicorns topic even weirder I was rewatching a clip from the Legend of Everfree movie and when they’re fighting the villain and “pony up”, sci-twi has wings. Sooo- sci-twi is just weird

[@Boccpikmin456]

Another thing that bothers me is that there’s no horn when the mane seven “pony up”, yet sunset and twilight have gotten horns in their big angelic / evil form and that’s about it from what I recall

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Honestly? It’s probably just because it looks weird/would be inconvenient.

[@Green_Kirby]

Me: *sees the title of this video* Also me: wait, since when did EG make ANY sense?

[@victor2641]

When did mlp or any cartoon

[@ladybuggamer4479]

I would love to see a part two of this! ❤ It’s great watching MLP videos again.

[@moon_lily_rosieplays]

4:19 “here lies Rainbow Dash 2010 - 2019” Does that mean that she is only nine or something?

[@Birdsflight44]

The thing about Spike's form is that Spike may have messed with his destiny by flinging himself through the portal to chase after Twilight. Things aren't a perfect 1:1 between worlds, and we see that human world Spike was permanently "marked" by a single pass through a portal, so maybe if he hadn't gone through the mirror at the same time, making himself an accessory to Twilight, maybe he could have gotten a different form.

[@lisboah]

One thing that always bothered me is that they never explain how the time difference works between the two worlds. Let me explain. We know that the Dazzlings were banished through the portal a thousand years ago. However, according to the comic issue detailing their backstory, they seemed to have been in the Human World for a couple of years at most. Sunset Shimmer went through the portal while Twilight Sparkle was still a foal. And she was still a student during the plot of Equestria Girls. This would imply that time flows considerably slower in the Human World compared to the Pony World. However, Twilight spent a couple of days in the Human World, and when she returned, it seemed like only a couple of hours passed in the Pony World. I say this because everypony was still next to the mirror and there were no indications that they have been there for a long time. By the logic I mentioned above, it should feel like she had spent months, at minimum, in the Human World.

[@grac3ly152]

I think I have a theory, What-If: Based on what were given on the show the portal to Equestria open and closes for a specific amount of time right? So what if when the portal is closed then the time between two words isnt synced then if the portal opens the two worlds time get synced hence why it explains your last statement so as soon as twilight used the journal to keep the portal open that meant that the time between two worlds will always be in sync

[@mizoboe6193]

bro imagine giving birth to ur child and theyre just full grown and already a principal 💀 6:16

[@ferretqueen2908]

I weep for Principal Cadence's uterus

[@MiraculouschanneltalesOfvid]

6:12

[@Synth_Gaming]

Definitely make another video because you have yet to talk about the spring breakdown special and the other ones too. I remember one scene where they fall into quicksand and are teleported to Equestria and Sunset says something like "there could be a multitude of portals to Equestria" that they don't even know about. And I thought that was funny because who knows how many humans could actually be in Equestria without anyone knowing. Also the ending with all the humans in ponyville is kinda funny too. Oh and the one friendship games blooper when the pinkie pies switch places, literally proves how easy it could be for a human to enter ponyville without anyone knowing

[@xCREAPYPANDAx]

4:26 I heard, Discord is one of the characters, who has no human version. I mean... He is LITERALLY god of Chaos 😂

[@AutumnIsFalling331]

I’d love a part 2! The switch of Canterlot high and Crystal prep always bothered me. I think they could’ve come up with a better alternative to humanville. They could’ve just kept ponyville since they didn’t change the other names either.

[@jesusalvarado9086]

All of CHS now believes in magic. All of CPA knows that magic is real.

[@Bloddylosser]

5:34 Funfact! Flash Sentry aka Twilight "love interest" is actually lives and work as a guard in Cristal Empire (in the pony version)

[@killy_pl]

it has so many holes it makes me cry

[@strawbae308]

adult pony twilight falling for teenage human flash always rubbed me the wrong wat tbh

[@mr.peepers34]

i was dieing when you asked if flurry would be born a principal XD

[@EffMinus]

it only makes sense!

[@mr.peepers34]

@@EffMinus also i found some more inacurate blind bag characters

[@mr.peepers34]

@@EffMinus Juebug, Wave 22 Octvia, Wave 9 Lily Valley, and Wave 24 Fleur de Lis

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Nah she’d be born as President of Canterlot state.

[@mohammedal-mustafamirghani5010]

I can't believe it's been almost 10 years since the first equestria girls movie came out, God I feel old.

[@caliasophie]

Flurryheart would be born a principal omg I'm dying

[@mikedanielespeja6128]

Flurryheart as a principle got a good long chuckle outta me.

[@emilyrain5702]

In my opinion, they should have made the main 6 (and other characters) college students who are going to college for their special talents they have in Equestria (For example: pinkie pie going to college to become a baker, Applejack going to college for agriculture, etc.)

[@m.d.diablos4423]

Rainbow Rocks is one of my favorite movies ever. Villains were dope and the songs were dooe

[@perfectharvestmlpstudios9152]

My biggest gripe with EG is this: Whenever there were big magic battles in the films, particularly when these battles were in the city, why on eartth didn’t anyone in the vicinity call the emergency services or armed forces?! We know police exist, because in the music video for DJ PON-3’s song we see a traffic cop, but that’s it! Am I over-thinking this as well?!

[@enriquer.puricelli1437]

I feel your hurting yourself with this one XD Would def want to see a part two

[@cyanity1017]

Honestly I feel like Equestria girls would have worked better if they put the characters in college, it'd still have a school setting but also the characters could believability be adults like how they're implied to be in the main show and really nothing would change aside from the setting.

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Agreed

[@aertnadle2466]

Wouldn't that make them less relatable to target audience then given the preference for younger characters in animated shows nowadays?

[@cyanity1017]

@@aertnadle2466 I mean, not much would change, it'd still be in a school-like setting and it's not like college hasn't been shown in kid's shows before.

[@aertnadle2466]

@@cyanity1017 We would run in the issue of how they pay for college, what they do to support their incomes and live on their own. Heck, the human CMC would also be out too since they wouldn't fit a college setting.

[@cyanity1017]

@@aertnadle2466 well one, I don't think they'd talk about that if they chose that setting, they don't talk about stuff like their parents or more sensitive high school topics in the original setting anyway. [ not to mention I'm pretty sure most of them have jobs that would make enough money to pay for college. ] Plus I think it'd go the same with twilight's arc where she lives in the library for the first day in the human world and lives with one of the other mane 6 for the second day. And the human cmc wouldn't be completely out, just have it where the college is near an elementary school so it's more believable they'd be there, like they come there to see their big sisters or something.

[@pipisochkaaaa]

"A natural born principle is even beyond our understanding "

[@SilverSpoonRiche]

You forget, Luna and Celestia were not born Alicorns. They were just as shocked as all involved that Flurry Heart was born an Alicorn. They said this has never happened in Equestria's history. I think it was a power they found to defeat Discord the first time and in so doing became Equestria's rulers after vanquishing him using half The Elements each. Or maybe I am once again confusing canon with fanon.

[@SilverSpoonRiche]

@@real_abender Luna- "It is beyond even our understanding." Hence, it has never happened in their life times.

[@DilettanteThat]

Bro, there's a reason I never watched the season Flurry Heart was born and onwards, as far as I was concerned MLP hit the fan after that.

[@SilverSpoonRiche]

@@DilettanteThat Cool, I made it to season 9 and gave up with only 5 episodes to go. The Discord/Grogar scandal was too much to bear.

[@offsewingdragons9142]

I think officially luna and celestia got their wings very very young, in “a tale of two sisters”, they had wings long before their cutie marks and in all of the comics that i can think of they grew up with alicorn powers. I really like sawtooth waves’s explanation of alicorn magic, that C&L represents sisterly/sibling love, shining armor and cadence represent romantic love together (and cadence represented romantic love before meeting SA as well, everyone wanted to date her lol) twilight obviously has the magic of friendship and flurry heart represents the love that children have for their parents. Twilight got her wings when she got involved with her friends and finished a spell about friendship. Celestia and Luna presumably got their wings early on, since sisterly love isn’t instinctive, but is a readily available bond to form. Cadence must have gotten her wings shortly after pony puberty since thats when romance typically enters the mind (since canonically she has her wings pre-shining armor) and Flurry Heart was born with wings because the love she represents is instinctive from birth. Thanks for reading all this rambling lol. I really wish the wing thing was explained more in depth tho.

[@GlitchyOnAChair]

its funny how theyre so shocked about a pony being born an Alicorn and we be seeing background characters of ponys being alicorns

[@supersunshine1023]

With the ages, there’s also the possibility Equestria society works like the Pokémon world or something, where young teens can be their own, unlike the human world, which is why the human mane 6 are in high school while the pony ones aren’t?

[@owo1125]

@Marav Reviews meybe ( like in a lot of alternative universe plots ) time is faster/slower in one kf the worlds? For example 1 day in human world is month in pony world.

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Basically why I think EG should have just been it’s own thing or at least a spin off disconnected from the continuity of FiM just like pony life. Honestly I love how there’s an entire world outside of Equestria that we know next to nothing about outside the movie and sometimes the comics which are debatably canon anyway

[@AwesomeGamer-om4hm]

How about using EG to revive Jem? Hasbro uses popular IPs to revive their old ones, most notable in their Transformers comics bringing back GI Joe in the same world.

[@tixx5078]

You have a good point in all of that. A part 2 would be nice! (Ps your pony-avatar looks so cool!)

[@Melanie-ro9se]

Another thing that doesn't make sense is the whole love plot between Twilight and Flash Sentry. Like, they blush around each other for two films and then Twilight goes back to Equestria and... that's all. Just like the girls were telling Flash a few times throughout the films, it's highly doubtful their relationship could really work since Twilight is literally a princess from another world, who has duties, family and original friends back in Equestria. Maybe they could visit each other at first but eventually one of them would have to leave their original world to be with the other. The fun thing is that in the end of the first film they even showed us that there is pony Flash and he is a guard in the Crystal Castle. And Twilight met him. And... that's it. He isn't even shown or mentioned anywhere neither in the next EG films or the main show. And even human Twilight doesn't show any interest in him, instead going for Timber Spruce in the fourth film. I just feel bad for Flash at this point, he was originally added in the story for the sake of a romance line, and then his romance line just gets dumped.

[@EffMinus]

I think Twilight’s just the type that’s logical enough to know that the relationship wouldn’t work out long-term, so she doesn’t bother trying to initiate anything. I agree with you on Flash tho lol.

[@丈王主]

@@EffMinus Hello, is there any possibility of updating EQG?

[@cindylikesloona]

just some extra info I'd like to add: 1. his pony counterpart did make appearances in the show but rather as a background character, in twilight's Kingdom part 1 & 2 and in forgotten friendship. he seemed emotionless to twilight and sunset just like how a normal guard behaves, faintly hinting that twilight didn't make a move for him and anything. 2. also you need not to feel bad for the human one, in the equestria girls shorts and specials, he got closer to sunset again but since the show didn't get a proper ending, it's not 100% canon.

[@Melanie-ro9se]

@@cindylikesloona Ah, right, I forgot he used to date Sunset Shimmer. Well, then I guess things are looking a little better for him, even though it is also unlikely that he is going to reunite with Sunset again, since I suppose their past relationship weren't really healthy back in the day due to Sunset's attitude, and though she has changed, it might've still left them both thinking recovering those relationships might be a bad idea. And in all honesty, while I haven't watched some later shorts of EG, it seems to me even Twilight & Timber relationship doesn't really progress that much. Show creators overally don't seem to want to work with romance lines. Which is, partially, understandable, since it is originally a show about friendship, after all.

[@n1ck_real]

if you think about it rarity has only managed to attract dogs

[@Moldylunchgal]

when EQG first came out I was actually pretty disappointed that Spike didn't become a human. But now that I think about it, Spike would be a middle schooler or a freshman like the CMC and scramble the scene when Twilight first meets Fluttershy. and since Hasbro is a toy company it would be pretty hard to make a spike doll with a unique mold that would most likely not sale at all :/

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Plus little girls might not want a male human doll as much? Sucks but that’s how it is.

[@nightshroud9671]

@@imthebossmermaid3648 Didn't they made a Flash doll though?

[@nightshroud9671]

Nope, Spike is kind of older/around the CMCs age. He can easily fit in as at least a freshman.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@@nightshroud9671 And how popular was he?

[@nightshroud9671]

@@imthebossmermaid3648 Flash? For Spike, he's pretty much is popular.

[@MidoriLeaf-sr5fy]

2:30 I think the actual reason spike became a dog is not becouse he is a dragon but becouse he is a "pet". The diamond dogs (as far as I remember) didn't have an oner. But Twilight is technicaly the "owner" of spike.

[@astronarmi]

I had this idea back then, about the other species (i.e. Dragons, Griffins, Hippogriffs etc.) to be humans as well but with different cultures and tradition (as shown in a few episodes like the Yak's Snilldar Fest and The Blue Moon Festival) and something that in a way can also be tied to their apperances and behaviour in the pony world. It'll make the story of Equestria girls more interesting but i think will confuse the younger spectrum since they're the main audience.

[@ferretqueen2908]

Yeah, I definitely agree with that. The series essentially portrays them as other races/nationalities, but I still think it's dumb to portray Spike as a dog since he is essentially a humanoid character. He's slightly older that the CMC (probably?), so by that logic he could also be a high school student, which would be more normal than a student prancing around with a talking dog.

[@edwinve4112]

​@@ferretqueen2908I always thought that for examples the ponies were the equivalnet of US and the UK, the griffins France/Germany, the Yaks pribably Middle East, the dragons and changellings im not sure.

[@nightshroud9671]

@@ferretqueen2908 And he's a sapient being.

[@evnrs]

In the human world, Discord is the janitor of their school

[@memethyst]

the biggest question of all... WHERE IS THE HUMAN SUNSET SHIMMER? did pony sunset kill her and take her place? does she live somewhere else like sci twi did? how does pony sunset have a house? i doubt she makes enough money working at that sushi restaraunt, does she live alone?

[@EffMinus]

my h/c is that Sunset spent months maybe years studying Human Sunset's every move, and maybe "magic'd" her away somewhere

[@wendyheatherwood]

There's quite a lot of human characters that we've never seen a pony counterpart too and pony characters that haven't shown up in Equestria Girls. Either those characters don't have counterparts at all or they live in different towns.

[@memethyst]

@@wendyheatherwood yeah

[@dc7981]

@@wendyheatherwoodI’m pretty sure some twitter writer confirmed that not every character has a human counterpart

[@real_abender]

There was a planned special that would have seen a dimensionally displaced Human Sunset return for revenge, but EqG was cancelled before it happened.

[@hemlocktea6643]

Now I'm thinking human pinkie actually hunted a baby alligator and had it taxidermied. So that would be the real human world version of gummy....but he was just a regular alligator pinkie caught

[@nostaldec4705]

In Equestria Girls, Applejack has a horse, so I wonder if that horse is a human in the pony world?

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Tbf we do see regular cows in the pong world. There probably are regular horses as well.

[@nostaldec4705]

@@imthebossmermaid3648 There is no proof that not all cows can talk in the pony world.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@@nostaldec4705 Idk how that relates to what I said tho? not trying to be mean, just confused.

[@nostaldec4705]

@@imthebossmermaid3648 All the cows in the pony world look the same, whether they can talk or not, so what makes them 'regular'?

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@@nostaldec4705 The fact that they look like regular, real-life cows. And thus can be kept for their meat.

[@GoosefieldYT]

also confirmed that princesses turn into principals the transformation is getting hired

[@bruhhhhhhhhh7837]

Sci-Twi's existence kinda fucked up Elements of Harmony in human world

[@ladyheavdev]

She's also just bland and just unnecessary as a character. She should'nt exist! You could take her out and nothing would Change!

[@just_sonic]

I can't wait for someone to say "this is a kids show stop thinking on it so hard"

[@3liipzx]

Some one already did ☠️

[@just_sonic]

@@3liipzx i wonder who

[@thetruthpony]

I never understood why Pinkie Pie couldn't have a real pet alligator in the human world. Many people do keep alligators as pets in real life.

[@shim8007]

Please make a part 2! This video was really interesting :D

[@snatchingcareers4681]

For the age thing. I think just age works differently for ponies. 15-16 for ponies means they’re fully grown in real life so maybe they follow that rule. Obviously they’re also magical ponies cuz it’s a tv show so I guess it’s safe to say: 15 years+= full grown Alicorns apparently age slower in MLP rules. So I’d say even Celestia and Luna are 1000 years old but their physical age is probably like 40-50 like you said so when they cross the portal that applies.

[@DaveMan1K]

I love these needlessly complicated and over analytical takes. Subbed.

[@wiwita63]

3:06 this basically how in anime the student council are above everything else and can do whatever they want.

[@Abimations7]

The age thing would probably be something to do with the actual aging of horses

[@alishaanimations3058]

5:40 Completely unrelated but Twilight is soooo cute

[@johnthechoochooaddict796]

When I was younger, I used to watch the Equestria Girls movies quite a bit. Now, I can see what you mean by how the movies make no sense.

[@AlphaPizzadog]

Apparently, there was going to be an actual human sunset shimmer. Unfortunately, there is NO actual instance of her human self otherwise. So now, either shes in equestria or she got disappeared, or she doesnt exist.

[@TheBirb101]

or she's a hallucination or spirit guiding the mane 6 through the highschool and helping them with their "magical powers"

[@Gosh-darn]

Maybe the human ponyville is a small town near human canterlot that sends their students to canterlot for highschool?

[@Akira-xh5od]

The thing is they didn’t think bout that, their only goal was to make a nice little show for young kids not to get everything matched up and stuff, their content wasn’t for full grown adults 😭

[@Calcb]

Imagine the portal doesn’t take you to a realm it just takes you to vary far human countries

[@christiankallio8586]

Yes Part 2 please I guess to explain some things the difference between the Pony World and the Human World is 1 to 1.5 rather than 1 to 1. By that I mean it's "Familiar yet different" like things are the same but just a tad off or changed when matching them up between worlds. Makes sense things wouldn't line up perfectly. Also a lot of people ask "Where's human Sunset?" I already came up with an answer, she took Swi-Twi's place when she transferred to Canterlot High

[@CherryFizzOfficial]

The one inconsistent choice that I actually agree with is the change in Big Mac's color, red would have looked so nightmarish on a human model

[@TheMonkeyKing4933]

Sci Twi in PONY World: unicorn Sci Twi in HUMAN World: Alicorn

[@mitchiribeetle225]

I think the reason that Winona and the other pets are their original species is because they didn't have to go to the portal and be subjected to wacky horse magic.

[@kingmagikarp97]

I do hope that this gets a part 2

[@real_abender]

I honestly just chalk most of these inconsistencies up to alternate universe weirdness. Especially the age bit; we can already see that everyone is a different species in this alternate world, who's to say they can't be a different age as well?

[@Zeromle]

my little pony: Celestia: go touch grass Twirlight: but I found- Celestia: go touch grass

[@MrConredsX]

Just wait when G5 introduce their Equestria Girls show and after thousands years of time skip you are still going to see cameo of Sunset Shimmer meeting Sunny

[@exentine7693]

Not flurry heart being born a school principal 💀

[@EscapeReality123]

Celestia and Luna ruling the entire Kingdom in the Pony World, and being just Headmasters in the Human World was always so frustrating for me. They've really compared the entire magical world to one high school, which kinda ruined the impression of how big and majestic Equestria is.