Can Conan's Map Ever Grow?

[@Eradicati0nn]

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[@dmitritelvanni4068]

Let me play the game I've sunk hundreds into. Don't give it the atlas treatment. That game isn't even playable to me anymore. Make a sequel instead. Being able to afford a new console in this economy is way beyond what I'm gonna be capable of unless things go very well for the US in November anyway lol.

[@GrymmsPlace]

The Savage Wilds modded map instantly shows that the North-East could certainly be expanded to (as in Savage Wilds covers entire footprint, twice, with land, subterranean, dungeons, and expansions, but... and consoles, to my very limited knowledge, cannot play modded, therefore held back. They would have to remake the North-West as the current lands there are almost untravellable.

[@tombooze74]

The game needs something new. I’m so bored with it. I’ve not played it in months

[@permag]

I think it's the old consoles that's actually holding the expansion back. Dropping support for older consoles and an upgrade path to a newer one for a small price is one way of forcing people to upgrade.

[@Eradicati0nn]

Older consoles will definitely be more of a roadblock than the new ones. Xbox already has an upgraded version for Conan, but I don't think PS4 does. Seeing as 49m people are still playing the PS4, that might be why. Anecdotally, I've not really heard anything that makes it worth upgrading from PS4 to PS5, that might be why so many people haven't made the jump yet

[@DianaStevens42]

@@Eradicati0nnConan was basically unplayable on ps4 for me. Literally couldn’t even get through the first few journey steps because it stuttered so bad. I went out and bought a ps5 just to play Conan

[@dmitritelvanni4068]

Bro if you can afford a new gen console in this economy, you may as well be pc master race by now, or have 0 responsibilities. I've sunk hundreds into conan(with no regrets) I should be able to play a game I've paid so much for. I'd sooner them keep things functional and release a sequel, which I'd heard isn't off the table

[@alexbrown200]

​@Eradicati0nn I play on steam but mostly for Conan on Xbox Series X and the game runs extremely well on the new platform I usually get about 70-90fps consistently but The older box's for people on my server are basically at the point of not being able to play the game, the fortress we got in age of war is to much for the crappy old consoles. Honestly this will sound cruel but I think they should ignore or forget about old gen console players in favour of pushing the game forward because it's really starting to stagnate with how used everyone is to the exiled lands Conan is amazing but they need to be more ambitious.

[@semi-useful5178]

@@alexbrown200 By that logic they should drop consoles entirely and focus exclusively on PC.

[@OKRMetric]

another idea would be to tie the Exiled lands and Siptah together through some kind of a portal.. that would be dope..

[@nealsterling8151]

Or by ship. It could be something simple like a large galley being anchored somewhere at the east coase of the Exiled Lands that could bring you to Siptah. Interact with the Captain to buy a passage. On Siptah, another ship could bring you back to the Exiled Lands. No magic gadgets needed. Heck, the Devs could release more maps via DLC that could be visited by ship. We could actually travel to Aquillonia, Cimmeria or Stygia (they could use assets from Age of Conan). I wouldn't mind if the devs would charge the price for a new Game for each map. I would LOVE that to be honest!

[@user-Jim499]

​@@nealsterling8151From where Siptah actually is to the location of the Exiled lands that be rough

[@DavidWilliamGeorgeNeul]

​@@nealsterling8151that would be a great idea

[@paollopiettrobrunoro9979]

Curiouser and curiouser, said the cartographer to the exiled man!! 🧐🤔🤐

[@Kamenskk]

It’s funny that you upload this today, I was looking at that part of the map last night and thought to myself when are they ever gonna expand it North East.

[@Eradicati0nn]

I'm in your head 😂 I've had this video planned for a little while after the AoH news calmed down a little, I've wanted to tackle the topic for a while

[@pwojo9776]

I feel like it'd also help if they added more to the map that's already there. I've walked through a the highlands a lot and it just feels empty most of the time. Not even like animals or wildlife. Like, it feels like I should be running into more animals, but it's just empty. With the desert, I'm at least tripping over scorpions, rocknoses, enemy camps, and hyenas.

[@zeronitsuj6243]

I can recommend the Desolate Lands mod, it is a fairly new map extension and probably the best so far (in my opinion)

[@jonasbech7787]

i will love to see a yamatai area with sakurai trees and a small yamtai settlement like the snake city we have and thx for the video

[@Eradicati0nn]

As would I, though I don't think it would fit naturally north of the Jungle unfortunately. I really wouldn't be surprised if we eventually get another Bazaar bundle with Sakura trees though, it seems only a matter of time

[@jonasbech7787]

@@Eradicati0nn a sakurai tree in the bazaar i will just say take my money :D

[@Senbei01]

I mean... it's doable. There are several mods that expand the Vanilla map quite a lot. The problem is that, once you extend to a certain degree you can see parts of the dungeons floating in the sky. I still remember spotting Dagon floating in the sky as I swam West of Sep. My uneducated take on this would be that maybe this could be helped by making the border areas quite foggy (to block sight to the assets) or maybe a different skybox? Edit I think the map mod I was talking about was "the Isle of Tir-Na-nOg" mod. It expands quite nicely to the NE and South. It's not the most polished map mod (or, at least, wasn't when I played on it a year or so back), some of the textures can be quite rough on the coastlines iirc, but does add a lot more places to explore.

[@Eradicati0nn]

It's probably do-able on PC, far less worries about actually getting it to run given the better hardware. A foggy border or something to block sight of dungeon assets could work, some of the dungeons don't even appear until you're fairly close. My initial thought was "just move the dungeons north" but I shudder to think of the bugs that could cause when trying to teleport into a dungeon 😂

[@chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926]

@@Eradicati0nn They could either place a mountain chain or a massive impenetrable wall on row 14 similar to how they separated the Highlands and Savanah Biomes.

[@Grakaron]

One big thing, connect the Siptah and Exile land maps together through a teleporter like the Sunken City. There is so much content on both maps merging them would be a massive boon of a bunch of assets that already exist

[@daymon9111]

I think its definitely possible. If memory constraints are an issue it could just be a matter of putting it in a separate world space. Block it off by mountains and accessed only through a few tunnels. A steppe biome could be very cool. Or a taiga. Perhaps a khitan/yama inspired area. My personal bid however is for a large underdark type expansion below the exiled lands.

[@Eradicati0nn]

I did play with the idea of suggesting a separate world space, I didn't think it was in the "spirit" of an expansion though tbh. I'd be down for any new biome aside from desert or swamp/jungle tbh, I just want a new area to explore 😂

[@АрчибальтРомуальдович-м7ы]

Following the logic of Surges on Siptah, north-east of Exiled lands should be based on aquilonians

[@Lost_Elfgirl]

Gosh YES please more grasland with beautiful trees and no conifers, I would freak out!

[@sesimie]

A portal to Siptah like you know the Surge... Then from Siptah to Stygia. I've seen where the isle of Siptah is on the map in Hyborian art. Once you open up Stygia then the World's your oyster.

[@Ulward47]

I think, if the devs rework dungeons and make them as separate locations like Sunken city or Kurak's dungeon, then perhaps they will be able to use that memory to expand map?

[@paulrymer9979]

What a great idea for an expansion 👏🏻 Hope they do this 🤞🏻

[@arcamean785]

I wish there was more caves and hard cover you could build within because I love building things that are basically "tower defense" forts for use against purges. You can build anywhere up to 4 before you need to worry about the new and annoying metor summoners.

[@TheSietch]

I would like an Alps like environment full of different sized green valleys - where the larger clans can try to take sole possession of the larger ones. The white mountain ranges that separate the valleys should be near impossible to climb and passes (I.e. choke point) should connect the valleys. There should also be room for solos and small clans to live a grubbing life in small pockets between the larger valleys. Maybe a bit PvP oriented concept, but it could work quite nicely for PvE servers also.

[@user-Jim499]

Thanks Eradication! I don't think a map expansion there would happen as a bigger picture is a new map entirely The Hyborian map has land there but it is also what map is Canon I play my toon a bit different as she was sent there by like the dark force that seen in the surges of Siptah and wounding the beast where it dropped her short of destination and she is to free all the exiles from the exiled lands by taking down the green wall and taking the portal from Thot Amon which is mow guarded by the Armies of Zingara until it's destroyed or dismantled.. not bad for a 12 year old orphan girl and her mighty steed Oso

[@Eradicati0nn]

Thanks Jim! I'm on the opposite side, I think this is more likely than a new map. It's likely far less work to make an expansion than a new map, though of course a new map could be better built from the ground up to avoid the issues that TEL has with optimization. IMO, I think the devs are probably a bit wary of a new map since Siptah failed. That being said, if they expanded the map and people really enjoyed it, it could restore some confidence in potentially building a new map in the future

[@DrentheOutcast]

On the RP server I'm on, I recently had an idea for a storyline that involves the amber bracelets! Really cool to see this!

[@Eradicati0nn]

Awesome! The amber bracelets are one of my white whales in the lore, I just need to know more about them 😂

[@DrentheOutcast]

@Eradicati0nn I know, right! I even flew around the map once in single player to find those people, to no avail. That lore I must have!

[@OuchXXI]

Why not have a huge subterranean underground area, similar to Elden Ring? It wouldn't break the lore, because you are within the fences still and you could scale enemies as you go deeper underground.

[@googanmcboogie9307]

I've always thought the gem in the bracelet was a good springboard for different maps (Emerald/ Exiles Amber, Jade, Onyx, ect).

[@Biggarou]

THis is a question that has been asked for a decade. and I rember a few people talking with out really knowing what was happening up there and bases what they knew on speculation. one of the HUGEST things I saw ther was a land for the ARSIR finally. It would be mind blowing if a place loaded with valkries actually existed. with Nothers slavers and such as well.

[@CARP42]

There are multiple mods that expand into that area of the map, so we know its possible. I like your idea of tying it in with the Serpent men and that story arc, but what culture would the humans of that area be? Lemurians would have long since killed the serpents or died trying. Would it more Nordheim or Cimmerians, or maybe a Pict people. Lol I shouldn't comment in the morning without enough coffee. Food for thought. Ty for the vid Eradicati0n.

[@Eradicati0nn]

Thanks Carp! If memory serves, the Lemurian people turned into the Hyrkanians after breeding with other races, so maybe Hyrkanians? The lore on it is very scarce so it could be any group, though I think some might be a better fit than others

[@oneill6291]

I hope it does!!

[@Eradicati0nn]

You and me both!

[@Pyrate_Of_Las_Vegas]

I would love to see Funcom use that upper right area of the map. So much wasted space.

[@h.f.v.1428]

I know that the conversation is about the map expansion, but one thing i wish the devs could do is rework the combat system, make it more fluid and the enemies more scary.

[@MrWildoneHoogeveen]

I DEFINATIVELY would LOVE an expansion !!!! So much cool stuff could be done with that........ The Isle of Ipsa i never even considered , since it is basically a new game for it isn't connected in any way with the Exiled lands. Don't want to start over , but an expansion to the Exiled Lands , now that would be it !!! Ps. I am a PC player , and to be honest i feel it is a bit ridiculous that the limits of a console hold this back........

[@AndrewRyan05]

Okay...I want a map extension with a second great city and a lot of stuffs designed for great companion questlines. And maybe some areas for building too, but secondarily

[@AndrewRyan05]

in a next chapter of age of heroes*

[@TBathory]

I would like to see the are like the redwood forest in Siptah that are is some of the most beautiful in all of Conan Exiles.

[@deviousdoggo5534]

I think it's entirely possible. I'm really craving a more water focused map or area that adds sea traversal.

[@Dragonstalon1001]

Perhaps the Dev's could make a PC ONLY DLC, which would eliminate 2 of the issues, Memory and $$$

[@Eradicati0nn]

They could, though I don't think they ever will. PC is probably the smallest market, and the optics of only developing a DLC for a portion of the player base would be horrendous. For better or worse, I think all platforms should get access to a map expansion

[@some_guy255]

Doing that would probably end up dividing an already divided community, and also would lead to easily hundreds if not thousands of problems for servers with pc being untouchable and likely even more powerful with new equipment, leading to console players that bring most of their money leaving the game altogether

[@Dragonstalon1001]

@@some_guy255 How do you figure? PC users can use Mods and with a little tweak (code given from the Conan Dev's to the 'Modder' about a 20 foot entrance through the 'Death wall by the Dev' to allow the new lands to be opened up, whether the Dev's put in a Cave through the 'Death Wall' themselves where you have to snake through or some way to 'Teleport' in where only the Mod would allow the entrance. Think of it as a Paid Official Mod ONLY for PC users, and they could open it up to the Top Modder's to build some 'Examples' to be placed in that area (Towns/Cities/POI's etc) ALL CREATED BY THE MODDING COMUNITY. The Biggest issue would mean the Dev's have to stop their War on Modder's over asinine things only for the Dev's to take that Modder's Ideas and Work and implement it themselves in the next 'Age' without giving the Modder any Credit.

[@domdom3938]

Whether it makes any impact or not, would an expansion like that make sense lore-wise? The whole point of the Exiled Lands is that everybody inside cannot get out, us players especially. The big pillars surrounding the entire map and the green barrier are a proof of that. Now what would adding an expansion outside the boundary of the pillars mean? Would they retcon that part and make the barrier and pillars further out, would be we technically free from the bracelet by the time we get there lore-wise, or would it just be swept under the rug?

[@Eradicati0nn]

There would definitely need to be a lore reason. The knowledge of the Giant Kings isn't infallible though, they were misled by the Serpentmen and their bracelets were subverted by Kurak, so it's possible that Mek Kamoses or another sorcerer could break part of the wall. My idea of it leading into another penned-in area was a way of trying to parse out the amber bracelets mystery, I think it's probably better to handle it that way outside of the "oh there are mountains at the edge of the map that you can't climb"

[@feywynnightrunner9380]

@@Eradicati0nn They could add in a process that changes the color of your bracelet to amber, thus allowing you to enter a new area.

[@chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926]

@@Eradicati0nn The answer to this is simpler than you think because there used to be a Cursewall that separated the Highlands from the Savanah and Desert biomesin the lore, but the pylons were smashed in the war that basically wiped out the Giant Kings so it wouldn't be much of a stretch for their to be another layer of Cursewall beyond the North East section. All you really need is an event to bring down the North East and seeing as Stygia has gotten a lot of attention from the Age of War they are the most likely suspects to bring down that section of Cursewall.

[@yorkletronik]

The map has expanded at least twice I think, before. You can see the ruins of the old curse wall pillars. The swamp and northern biomes were not in the original map.

[@АрчибальтРомуальдович-м7ы]

@@yorkletronik Yep. Original map is noob river and a desert + Unnamed city which is ridiculous. I remember how i thought that the game would be dead in months back in 2017 when i gave it a try.

[@bosshog9185]

Whats funny is if you get your own server or play offline you can go to select map and or savage wild lands on console. Wonder if that will ever happen

[@danthrax]

Redwood from Siptah and/or a swampland

[@kryes974]

Ofc it's possible, just have to look on PC how many expension they have on this side of the map "Land of Tel'navar" for example, "Darkwood" and so on

[@corylevine4524]

All is possible, Conan 2, people of the amber bracelets

[@egekuzey5541]

Definetly need

[@ph11p3540]

Funcoms worst mistake was dumbing down this game just so it can work on game consoles

[@AdisiTaliWaya]

They should make it all frost and snow then move the frost giant's and dragon there and put the Aesir npcs in the The Temple of Frost with the frost forge being there and where you make the Aesir armor. They also removed the aesir from the the old purge and they don't have a place of their own and in the lore they did live to the north of the Vanir who are in New Asagarth. They could even make it pictish land and add pictish npcs.

[@thefaithslayer2553]

Ark 2 and Elder Scrolls 6 will come out long before there is a map expansion or new map in Conan Exiles.

[@DiamondTexasViper]

They could do something like ark and allow us to transfer characters to different maps.

[@Eradicati0nn]

They did have server transfers before the Age of Sorcery (I think) for a brief period, though they were removed and there's been no update on their return since. I don't think they ever said why, though I remember a few people voicing Pay To Win concerns with the difference between Siptah and TEL's weaponry. Having server transfers return would be nice to have, and would probably get more people on Siptah

[@bentilbury2002]

That's a good idea. Leave the Curse Wall in place and have the only way of getting to the North East being teleportation or tunnels (dungeons) or something, which actually transfer characters to a different map.

[@joshhop982]

The iced portals in the ice giant dungeon. What if that is where they go

[@silverbird425]

Space Aliens. Must have Space Aliens.

[@joseenriquesanchezreche6393]

II want to believe that Funcom had an idea to make the map grow that direction. But it never happened. Modders created that part of the map and i´m wishing to play it.

[@jonathanmartinez-toledanop-g7q]

Sin construcción y solo mazmorras de siptha 😋

[@timothykruse3362]

Man, Devs!!!! are you getting this info??? make it happen please!!!

[@Eradicati0nn]

The devs definitely do watch Conan content, though I don't think I'm saying much new here for them 😂 They know the community wants it, it's just the more boring details like optimization and cost that are probably hindering them

[@War_Hunter]

Of course Funcom can expand the map, they just have to update their code and change from unreal engine 4 to unreal engine 5

[@yiany]

Funcom should consider just leasing the Conan I: to a new studio and let it make a new Conan survival game. Funcom can keep Dune.

[@mlg4017]

Maybe Age of Sea or something?It is possible to make a map consisting of rivers and islands, anyway the main reason is please give me "shippppp"!

[@patrickmace5340]

I'd rather not have an expansion. As opposed to say get a whole new/old map. I'd like to see the exiled lands transformed, back to its glory. Including having to beat those legends of that era new world bosses, well, stuff of legends and only ever hinted at in the currently decaying exiled lands. I'm aware this is a pipedream. it'll never happen. At least give me an amber gem for my bracelet. So I can finally pass through the wall. Oh and sandbeasts as part of the sandstorm that'd be great 👍.

[@latestaff9748]

i think it would great to expant the map instead of seein a big empty spot i feel like at some point in the near future they might expand by giving us new advetures or new dungons it would be nice to explore something new for once cuz that right hand corner of the map just looks blah why even have it there why even show it if its just going to be empty might as well fill it up with something in the near future hopefuly funcom does something right for once in there life time and add something to the and fix the game and bugs andeverything else so it would be more fun

[@jonathanmartinez-toledanop-g7q]

Yes posible

[@ArchReverend]

I have played in the north east plenty thanks to mods.

[@HernanFontes]

Yeah devs

[@Pyrate_Of_Las_Vegas]

I hate when Game Developers say "That's not possible" I'm like "You literally built a working digital world out of Code. Dont give me that BS."

[@Winterizes]

if it helps for your understanding, the version of Unreal Engine that is being used for CE is actually being pushed to its absolute limit so to speak. The map's size is as big as this version of the engine can actually handle without everything going to shit and being unplayable. It's also a reason that some of these random bugs happen with one notable one being weird physics bugs as well as thralls or enemies falling through the map if I understand correctly.

[@chaosgyro]

Stupid consoles always holding development back. Honestly, I'd settle for more attention being paid to Siptah though. That map is seriously underrated amd underutilized by the community.

[@Rolandais]

Another thing you don't mention. But one that matters probably more than any of the things you did mention, is the game engine they're using, and the limitations inherent in not just their backend coding, but with UE4 in general. With Epic on to UE5 (and probably 6 at some point in the not too distant future) at some point, (probably not too far from now) they will run out of ways they can "Improve" their (by this time likely massively butchered) code. And there are no updates to the engine, or code coming, ever.

[@Eradicati0nn]

I don't know much about engines tbh, though the devs have said before that, from their assessment, upgrading from UE4 to UE5 wouldn't fix much, and would create a year-long backlog of just engine work because of their custom framework plugged into Conan. It sounds like their version of UE4 is highly modified compared to just the stock engine. From my rudimentary knowledge, I can believe it won't be a magic bullet fix. Spaghetti code will definitely be an issue though, it's worth wondering if they can clean it up, that may free up a lot of space to do more

[@pest1l3nce]

It would be a waste not to use that space

[@joseenriquesanchezreche6393]

IDK but companies could accept mods into the game code like something usual as far as they offer QOL for the player without being a cheat. They dont even mind properly fighting cheaters on official servers. Just mention the modder or use its name in stuff in the game; Same as Firespark arrows exists as a tribute for a YT cchannel. Do anyone remember how Steam was born?

[@hahaNO56]

The mods Grim Map and The Darkwoods expand that part of the map so my guess is they don't do it because of console.

[@Eradicati0nn]

Yeah, most likely. Mods only have to consider PC performance so they've got a lot more headroom in that aspect

[@lathim66]

They promised us that expansion in the 1st year. There is even a spot on the maprooms for 2 areas. But then they gave us Siptah. Sony needs to get off their arses and make PS5 more attainable to others. I have a 5 but yeah. Imo just another excuse because externals work well with the PS

[@Eradicati0nn]

First year as in Y1 of release, or Y1 of the ages system? I didn't start playing until 2019 unfortunately so I missed a bit of the early days of release I've been out of the console loop for a while, since about 2017, but I've not really seen any compelling reason that would theoretically have got me to upgrade my PS4 to a PS5. Especially not that recently announced PS5 Pro 😂

[@lathim66]

@@Eradicati0nn if I am remembering correctly it was just before they sold it to 10cent games.

[@Lupus_Dei_]

add it only for PC

[@pyromancerinquisitor]

short answer: it's complicated. as anything to do with lots of lines of code.

[@Eradicati0nn]

Pretty much 😂 Shoulda made this a 10 second video and just said that lmao

[@pyromancerinquisitor]

@@Eradicati0nn make a nice youtube short 🤣

[@Chromium_az_egyetlen]

My 6 year old pc that costed 500 euro runs the game almost on the max graphics. Why do people still strugle with consoles? A good pc is not expensive.

[@Eradicati0nn]

The PC I bought back in 2017 was like £800 prebuilt and managed to run Conan decently. PC is definitely less casual-friendly, it's not as simple as just holding a button on a controller and sitting on the couch, but also PC can seem quite intimidating. I know I thought getting a PC would be much more complex at first, it wasn't until I actually had one that I realized it's not as complicated as it can seem

[@deavonw]

So sick of Siptah and Exiled Lands. Guess it's time to leave Conan behind. You're idea is thrilling though. Doesn't have to be a huge expansion but slow growth over time would be a blast.

[@Huw-u1i]

All they have to do, is sell the map as an expansion in the bazaar, you get a key or something, similar to the way World of Warcraft, does new areas, then if you are on console, you don't have to buy it to unlock it, or if you want it buy a new console. They could also put a teleport facility in the Library of Esoteric Knowledge to portal to Siptah to blend both of those maps. So much can be done, but it will never happen as CE is just into making as much money out of the small player base it now has. If modders can do these things, surely Funcom could just buy a mod from one of these and incorparate it into the base game

[@Eradicati0nn]

The devs have pretty much ruled out selling a map expansion with the Ages system. Everythjing gameplay is free, almost all cosmetic stuff is in the Bazaar. Selling the Siptah expansion was one of the main reasons the player base split and Siptah ultimately failed. Modders can do it with ease because they only have to worry about PC optimization, but I am a supporter of buying mods and integrating them into the game, especially map mods I think if it weren't for the worries about how it would perform, and being stretched incredibly thin with the development cycle before now, the devs would have either already done it or would be working on it. They have a pretty good idea of what people are interested in, and new areas to explore seem to rank quite high

[@Caligator89]

dungeons are really expensive??? since when? I've run a server for years and making new dungeons *on my own* just using PIPPI takes me maybe a week at the most? I can only imagine with the dev kit and with people experienced in it, it would take far less. honestly the lack of meaty content has really been this games absolute bane imho-- heck its why I'm teetering on uninstallation at this point because of how threadbare things are. the exiled lands has so many placeholder zones and assets, *especially* with giant king ruins, that it boggles the mind why its never been filled in. I love this game in concept but in practice, funcom has been really lazy, and possibly dishonest. consoles have limited storage space, sure, but for the most part it shouldnt be an issue. memory limitations are more based on graphical *density* rather than, say, a map expansion. as is, map files are not that huge. Savage Wilds, for instance, is less than 2GB. when playing conan in *singleplayer*, the game runs simulation for the map in ONLY the area around the player. it does not load the map in totality. its why it lags and loads when you teleport-- the game is having to spin up the zone youre traveling to.

[@Eradicati0nn]

I presume dungeons are expensive because people have to be paid 😂 Making textures, coding, building assets etc, someone's gotta be paid for every task. There's also outside parties like voice actors. Modders can make dungeons fairly quickly (to a degree), though modders have the benefit of that being their sole focus, not having to worry about running it on console and the other, likely more boring, parts of developing new features that we don't really see I don't think memory management is talking about actual storage space, probably more about VRAM from the graphics card and RAM. I would also suspect they have to optimize for the worst-case scenario, being basically the entire map extension loaded at once, as it would likely be when everyone floods there on an official server after an update. I'd have to refresh myself on the specs, but PS4 and Xbox One are probably lagging quite far behind on those specs

[@Caligator89]

@@Eradicati0nn well thats what I'm trying to say-- the RAM and VRAM requirements for added dungeons would be negligible in actuality. you dont load the whole map in singleplayer, just the immediate zone around the player (hence why multiplayer on a solo game has that tether). if they build a zone with too much object *density*, like too many structures (al meriah for instance) the game would lag on console-- but their normal quality for density is darn near threadbare. they could add a hundred dungeons of the quality/density of the silver mine, and have no performance impact on users. now there MAY be **some** issue for official servers, being as they would be shouldering any extra load, but honestly it shouldnt be anything more than it already deals with on a populated server. like I said, this is being said from experience on running this stuff and mucking about under the hood with mods. conan's worst performance comes from HD size and not being able to cull local rendered buildables that are out of sight. Now you bring up a fair point about paying people for new assets, but honestly at this point, they have so many assets in game as is, that they could easily repurpose a lot of it for new zones. I've seen some very impressive work with using the base game assets in modded maps-- recycling both objects AND monsters. and whats more, they have all the assets from the cash shop they could use to decorate things. that would cut out so much development cost right there-- and for narrative, they could just use notes, as theyve done all over the exiled lands. no need for a VA for 'bumblesnortch's burrow'-- just a small campfire with a half chewed bloody note that illustrates bubblesnortch was a fool for using this cave to hide from a sandstorm. explore the cave, find a skeleton at the back and a host of spiders. dungeon done and dusted. paying devs to make the dungeon layout and testing; that would cost some money sure, that I will certainly cede.

[@piotrgruszka9128]

Thx for video. I won't comment because my comment will disappear again. If they don't want to, they won't do it, simple as that.

[@bentilbury2002]

Sorry, can't see your comment, it disappeared 😋

[@ptooff]

Of course! - DDO it!... Who wouldn't want more... Personally I don't like that the whole gaming world has to be hheld back by an old console. If it's pbsolete - leave it behind. That is the failure of consoles. I've never cared about them. Proprietary crap and way inferior to PCs. Get a computer or be left behind. As far as what the new area would look like ... I don't really care as long as it is new and exciting. Devs get creative freedom there from me. I love this game. I appreciate that they listened to us and ditched the battlepass and made the best of it. Things seem to be looking up for this game...

[@LadyVesuvius]

A very unprofessional opinion, but I dont think its fair to hold a game back because of console, especially when the majority of players are probably PC (from my research anyway, could be wrong). This would breathe new life into the game if it was done right but yeah, probably will never happen, sadly.

[@Eradicati0nn]

It's a double edged sword IMO, it would definitely give the game a boost in player count and probably retention, but I would also suspect the majority of players are on console, and if it doesn't run well for them or actively makes regular gameplay worse, it may end up having the opposite net effect. I tend to presume more players on Playstation and Xbox because it's two platforms, but also console players seem to stick to games for longer, PC players are far more discerning and jump around titles a lot, at least in my experience. I don't think there is any solid source for player numbers on those platforms

[@eldouyet]

They will start to lose players if they don't do anything, for a discovery and mystery adventure game, it's rather limited

[@lyleseward8638]

These issues are a little more complex than your video suggests. And I kinda think you and Funcom are trying to blame console players for Funcom's shortcomings. I agree there are some player side limitations and console is one of them. There are a lot of issues that are server side also. Some can be fixed with better game design which is limited in some cases by Unreal Engine. Some can be fixed by upgrading the server hardware as well. Some can be fixed by optimizing the databases (I bet there is a lot of room for improvement here on Funcom's side). The only real limiting factors are Unreal Engine and end user consoles. I get the fact that Funcom doesn't wanna throw Unreal Engine under the bus but KZbinrs don't work for Funcom, right?

[@Eradicati0nn]

There is absolutely no console player blaming happening in this video 😂 People play on the platform of their choosing, it's the job of the devs to make the game work well on that platform within its limitations. 4:12 - 5:17 covers optimization and makes a point of showing that Funcom needs to optimize, especially given the content they've added over the Age of War and how poorly optimized some of that has been.

[@lyleseward8638]

@@Eradicati0nn I kept hearing you repeat like a parrot the console limitations. I get thats what the developers said but why repeat it so many times? And if I missed the optimization part then part of my comment is unfair. I will go back, listen, and change if appropriate.

[@Eradicati0nn]

@@lyleseward8638 Because the console limitations are likely the biggest factor outside of development costs, thus most questions about a map expansion come back to that answer 😂 They're mentioned heavily in the technical section because, well, it's the technical section, and they're also mentioned in the wrap-up that summarizes the video contents. The other sections deal with the myth of the dungeons being in the north, and a potential lore reason behind a map expansion

[@lyleseward8638]

​@@Eradicati0nnI have seen developers blame customers for their own shortcomings. I have specifically seen Funcom's developers make excuses for their own shortcomings quite frequently. A lot of the players on the servers I frequent know when Conan devs are making excuses. Guess I figured you would know the difference yourself and not parrot what the devs say like they know best. Most people with a year or more of experiencing Conan and Funcom seem to note the difference.

[@Nifter71]

Goddamn console players ruining everything for us again! 😄

[@Eradicati0nn]

Them bloody console players 😂 Nah it's not their fault, they're probably a significant majority of the community, just gotta hope the devs can do enough optimization to get stuff to run on those consoles. I was very surprised at the 49m people still on PS4 though