Erebus Origin 38 - The Third Watch Release From Jody And Stephen

[@AlexanderB.]

On multiple occasions Jody mentioned his love for the Helm Vanuatu it was no surprise to me he was inspired by that watch when designing the Origin. Depending on the colourway there are some Pelagos vibes in there as well. The design features certain vibes of said watches, but I don't mean this as a negative. It was basically designed as a crowd pleaser and I like it.

[@TalkingTimepieces]

I really like what Jody is doing with Erebus, you can tell he is a true enthusiast

[@Dialandhands]

These have a similar sense of simplicity to the helm but this is very quintessentially Erebus. It’s not a copy by any means. Some people would say it looks like a pelagos and some would say it looks like an angular sub. No one’s wrong but they shouldn’t be derogatory or rude about it.

[@dmoneydmoney6050]

Dude there are TONS of watches that look just like this.

[@timemasterhms]

It’s not rude to point out that these look like so many other watches. It looks so close to the Helm that at a glance you wouldn’t notice. My issue is that if anyone else did it, they wouldn’t get anywhere near as much publicity. Jody has been in the watch world for a long time but that doesn’t give him a pass to make essentially a copy.

[@AliasHSW]

That tone of the pink dial reminds me of the 80s - when neon tones were in vogue. It with the silver bezel is the most captivating and quite possibly my favorite color way.

[@etebol]

The Helm Vanuatu is a good looking watch but I don’t like the brand for their artificial scarcity tactis, so I am super happy for Jody for stepping up and try to fill the void for folks that don’t wanna be in a waiting list. And is nobodies fault that some fellas have skinny wrists, thats why they offer 38,36,34 mm.

[@xN1NJ4smurfx]

Don't know how I missed this video when it dropped... but so good to see all the colours. It still blows my mind how 41mm seems to be "too big" for so many people. I've got 7.5"/19cm wrists, and have always thought they were pretty small compared to guys I know. Maybe it's cos they're fairly flat rather than round, but the 39mm (49.5mm lug-to-lug) field watch I just built looks sooooooo tiny on wrist. Anyways, great vid as always 😎

[@jersievers]

This watch is so darn good. I bought at the release and had on the wrist for the last week. Great for my wrist size, the h link bracelet is about perfect. I am ruined now with the quick adjust and taper. These are just great. Likely thicker than most will like, but very seiko thick and tons of water resistance.

[@Horology_Report]

They should have outlined the 12 marker on the bezel with a black line.

[@landonmeier-p1e]

Hey Peter. I have been consistently watching KZbin content and reading blogs concerning wrist watches for the past 6 years and have not heard of Helm. Thank you for your contributions to the community. Cheers.

[@PeterKotsa]

Thanks for sharing! 👍

[@Spectrecontrol]

The coloured bezels look great, I think the silver bezel will work well with a leather strap

[@tonyxxx9463]

I see the similarities, but it’s definitely it’s own watch and coming in at 38mm it would weigh less and wear better on your average wrist. I think Jody and Steve have done well here and best of luck to them as their collection expands. Thanks for sharing brother

[@PeterKotsa]

Well said Tony 👍

[@astorbeijer9424]

Love that ending Peter, where you talk about enjoy the watch on your wrist, etc. I wish this was mandatory for all watch videos. Great review as always ❤

[@2manysigns]

I feel these are very good tool watches that could keep you very happy for good . Maybe especially just a regular / normal person who only wears one watch . Of course if you're an enthusiast your going to perhaps need a lot of variety as well .

[@respectablylate3081]

Went here straight after Jody's video drop. Ordered the purple 38 and waiting on the white Ascent as an Aqua Terra killer!

[@jaroslavklos6189]

Looking really good. Thank you for the review. I would only change lume triangle on SS bezel to be with black border. Sometimes it looks like that the marking is missing. I had the same issue with RZE Endeavour.

[@Naushad1210]

It looks nothing like the Helm Vanuatu, except that they are both legible dive watches with toothed bezels. Helm doesn't get to trademark thick hands and large indices so that no one is ever allowed to use them ever again.

[@Angry_Gnome]

...and the the Vanuatu hands are a complete rip off of Sinn divers.

[@ZzackOblong]

Those Helm fans are certainly fanatical. Every watch made these days has a little, if not a lot of another watch in it. Great looking watches Jody. Well done! And great review as always Pete.

[@PeterKotsa]

Very well said 👍

[@ThemysteriousMrP]

Thanks for the review PK!

[@thetattedpharmacist3215]

Looks so good! I’ve already got two 41mm Origins, a purple and a red, but to be fair, of late I’ve gotten right into smaller watches, even going as small as 34-35mm, so this is now on my list. Just got my first Squale 1521, which at 42mm is now at my very upper limit.

[@thesolver1970]

get a g-shock mudmaster and everything (except maybe the huge Tuna on a black wave strap) looks small after wearing that....

[@deethreekay]

I dig the stainless steel bezel. Screams rugged tool watch. The silver in particular is really cool. But I dont think the bright colours work at all. It just doesn't gel for me. It's like someones got a bright sticker and whacked it on top, or just painted over one of the other colours.

[@michaelcoleman7260]

Another great review Pete. Am seriously digging these releases. The blue and silver dials look great, but the pink with stainless steel bezel? Fantastic! Cheers.

[@AdAce21]

5:16 I'm really digging the one with the silver (white?) dial with the stainless steel bezel

[@Naushad1210]

As in the larger version, the white dial of these looks the most appealing overall.

[@watchalot919]

Definitely a better size, however if they made the original in a 39mm they wouldn't have had to make two sizes. Who wouldn't wear a 39mm diver? I'll wait until a good used purple one comes up on eBay

[@cesarespinozaspain]

I have what I consider a smaller wrist, and I have the original Origin, and its a perfect size. I also have the larger sized Bulova lunar pilot, and fits fine as well. Same with the Seiko Arnie, all of these are considered huge watches especially the Lunar pilot and Arnie, but the seem fine on my smaller wrist. You see a number and think oh its huge, but unless you actually try it on and see for yourself, you may be pleasantly surprised . Jody got it right the first time, This smaller one, you ask and sometimes you receive.

[@5ifty_cow997]

I will be getting that hot pink dial. Such a bright color it's awesome

[@D3ZG1978]

Love that baby blue version! Great video as always Pete 😊

[@wikster6630]

I thought of Helm as well when i ordered my blue dial Origin. And a little of the Pelagos. And i would have purchased the Ascent from Jody if my number from Helm didn't come up a the same time. Almost 2 years on the Vanuatu wait list, had to jump on it. Helm does make a great quality watch for similar prices with Erebus. Cheers

[@jacc88888]

My favourite is the silver dial version. Admire what they’ve done with these watches - amazing specs and great quality for the price but for me the design just doesn’t appeal enough to justify buying one. Great you could showcase them though.

[@adk7962]

I’ve already commented on Jody’s Channel stating the Silver on Silver is REALLY calling my name. I think these will sell out quick! That camera shot of the orange dial from bright to dark where the lume looks like a light got turned on the watch was very cool! Thanks!

[@thesolver1970]

yeah very Doxa 600T but probably made better. Thats the one I'll get so I can park my Seestern homage for a bit.

[@adk7962]

@@thesolver1970 I have the Seestern 62mas Silver Dial on a FKM Tropic, and I have to make a conscious decision to take it off my wrist and wear something else…

[@thesolver1970]

@@adk7962 my 38 just turned up today (silver) - it looks great! a little less toolish than the Seestern 600T but well made and feels nice on wrist. Very legible and makes for a nice dress tool watch. Pretty good, but not sure its twice the quality of the Seestern for the price - but its a low volume watch, so that price difference is expected. Well done Jody!

[@adk7962]

@@thesolver1970 Damn I’m jealous. I just can’t swing it right now. Yes probably not twice as good as a Seestern but definitely worth the money. Enjoy!

[@hattyfarbuckle]

More choice is always a good thing. For me 41mm is better, though I'm out of my heavily loomed bezel phase and do like a stainless bezel with just a lume pip.

[@SingleTrackMined]

A beautiful tool watch beautifully presented.

[@leonm2407]

Makes sense they made a smaller version to capture more of the market. Now for the 44mm?

[@PeterKotsa]

💪

[@ladykoala208]

I just love these! I’m setting my alarm but since I already love 3 of them I don’t have much time to decide so I think I will be watching this video multiple times today 😂😂😂. Thank you as always Pete.

[@PeterKotsa]

Hahaha

[@ExhumedTornado]

Two options. 1.) Remove the Date, add a lume spot. 2.) Add a half the size lume spot at 6 under the date.

[@jasonspeirs6981]

Or a possible 3rd option. Move the date window over the "6" position, & lume the date wheel. Keeping the symmetry of the dial. Just a thought

[@greglipschitz]

Would have been great to see the pink bezel insert on the pink face. The Mrs would go for that in a heartbeat.

[@josephgiuca7076]

As always great review. Love your content sir and your delivery of the infor,stuon

[@Mystery_Man84]

This looks a bit small for a 7.5 inch wrist. I would get the 41mm but they don’t make it in pink.

[@andrewd7586]

Speaking of Helm Peter. I’m wearing my Komodo now, but just 4 weeks ago I got the Vanuatu! Yes I also see the similarities but I think there’s enough spin on Jody’s model to be different. Oh & I also have the Helm Khuraburi.🤭

[@PeterKotsa]

👍

[@eshwarrao7358]

Great videography as always Peter, beautiful dials. I believe in one of the videos it was mentioned that Helm takes one heck of a time to be available after its ordered (lengthy backorders because of the qulaity they maintain and its one man army). I believe Jody went safe like you said and also saw a good chance to make money using similar model while Helm is unavailable - Business strategy.. Thanks for a nice review. White dial & Black one with steel bezel are my fav, light blue is okay.. How about yours?

[@PeterKotsa]

I like a few of them personally, the Teal and Pink are striking (although I might not personally wear them) I think they look great in the hand I'd probably play it safe and go blue or black..😊

[@eshwarrao7358]

@@PeterKotsa Blue looks amazing... just too many blues in collection -:) - Yeah Pink is cool.. wish they made one in 32mm or something.. girls will buy like hotcakes.. Thanks again for all the pretty videos

[@ninasethi]

Honestly, I think that if they could source a relatively high accuracy quartz movement I would buy this watch. I know the NH35 is proven, but the inaccuracy puts it in the same category as basically everything else. I high accuracy quartz movement with this design, really high quality build and finishing would be the perfect every day tool watch in my opinion. Mechanical watch snobs will think my take is stupid but these mass produced mechanical movements are just as soulless as a quartz. I'd rather have something accurate and durable. Especially at this price point.

[@onewatchjustisntenough]

Yup you're in this boat by yourself 😅

[@bestboy897]

Amazing colors

[@DrDjDD]

If you really want to go back in time then you can see Korsbek Ocean Explorer. That was way before Helm. If I remember I left the comment after you reviewed original Erebus.

[@Tyrone2714]

Jody is a big fan of helm, only ever heard about them through him. Imo his look better than helms as i orefer the hands, and its far from a direct copy and has more than enough origin-al desing language to be its own. Stellar vid as always

[@michaelj8793]

Im sure that it will be every bit as success as the forty one although I wish that you showed off your photography skills just a bit more but that's just me Be well my friend and Thanks for sharing as always God Bless 👍

[@Alrekr666]

How is this on arm hair? My main issue with the first was the hair pulling.

[@PeterKotsa]

I didn't find any issues on my wrist

[@aussie8114]

Not a fan, but the black with steel bezel looks ok.

[@craig2100]

What's your favorite color with the new editions?

[@PeterKotsa]

I like the Teal and strangely the pink Would I wear pink?...probably not, but its pretty sticking nonetheless. Safe bet is the blue, blacks and whites 👍

[@andrewhannam.]

Helm is an ISO certified diver and like Zelos are one of the earlier micro brands.

[@peterboyce1422]

Hi Peter. Do you want me to send you my titanium Helm? I can also send my 41 Erebus Origin. You can compare for yourself. Some similarities however where do you draw the line? They have three hands…

[@PeterKotsa]

Thanks for the offer Peter..all good brother 😊👍

[@Silverscope]

Thwy look good. But in my opinion they pump out to many variations in such a short time.

[@violinmke]

I think it's a strike while the iron is hot deal .

[@alastairforbes2792]

Hey Peter, I disagree with the wear of the bracelet on the production of the 41 Origin. Mine is exceptionally uncomfortable with incredibly sharp edges. I am a big fan of Jody and grateful for all of the content over the years but this is a miss for me. Hopefully the J style bracelet on the Ascent I have ordered is better! I enjoy your content too BTW! Thanks 👍

[@PeterKotsa]

Thats not good...which variant of the bracelet did you get on the 41? I recall they had two different types

[@jaredstephenson6468]

I bought 2 of the original 41 and both bracelets were as soft as could be. Either a huge exaggeration or a hit and miss issue.

[@alastairforbes2792]

@@jaredstephenson6468 nope, not a huge exaggeration. I have assumed it’s a production issue and this comment was the first (and likely last) public one on the issue. I DM’d Jody and Steven on Instagram at the beginning of May to ask about it, but only in the context of understanding if the O style bracelet on Ascent was machined in the same manner. I prefer my black dial Origin on a black waffle FKM strap so I wasn’t that bothered; I only purchased to support Jody. Enjoy your weekend.

[@alastairforbes2792]

@@PeterKotsa I picked it up on the flat link purely because I preferred the design language of that one.

[@jontpt]

If they had used the high beat Miyota movement instead of the same old low-grade Seiko, I would have bought three of them

[@Thomas-cz2vg]

agree so tired of nh35 😊

[@jontpt]

@@Thomas-cz2vg Yeah, it's just so cheap and lazy. I'm pretty much over all these Chinese made micro brands anyway...

[@thomaskelly3188]

Probably grab the teal and hot pink! Love the colored bezel, please issue the pink with a pink or white bezel! The 38 will put it on my gfs wrist and many other women will jump at the pink. C'mon Jodi, gimme a hot pink bezel like the teal, orange and purple!

[@jouwenlee7829]

World be nice if the hour and minute hands are distinctive from each other in this newer version. I could find myself staring at the hands for more than 5s just to read the time. Have a great weekend!

[@michaelcollins2473]

Don't dislike them, but I don't much care for them either. Meh.

[@BosworthMcG]

Yeah, for me they just look too much like what I’d see on ALIex.

[@DrNitin14]

not for me looks a bit cheap, very much a microbrand design. Their other models is much better IMO.

[@AudioFlat]

I’m not entirely impressed by the case finishing 😢

[@johnsoradi]

nice but 38 millimeter is too small for me can't wear it.

[@Angry_Gnome]

It's funny that the Helm fanboys are giving Jody flak for ripping off the Vanuatu when that watch is a complete homage to the Sinn U1.

[@DrDjDD]

Nothing to do with Sinn. U1 was created in 2005, but there was a plenty of of watches created by Fricker at that time, one being Korsbek for instance, Ocean Explorer. Many wannabe watch enthusiasts if you were call them used to order and make their own 'brand' so to speak. Old WUS forum had all kind watches available, small batches and people making their own brands as I mentioned. What you get now is Erebus, tool watch.. 😂, I have to laugh. Take a minute of your time and see wstch I mentioned, Korsbek, Ocean Explorer.

[@minnkonamike6658]

MmmmmGood

[@billymoss1585]

The original looks like a cat box. This one looks like a smaller cat box.

[@latinballa88]

Fantastic review as always. Something about the 38mm diameter just makes this one look and feel like it will be a classic.

[@farukhhasan11]

Oh Pete it's coming in just $299 I suppose it's a steal buy. These watches are so well made and amazingly designed.

[@OBZ-f7j]

More than 2 negative comments on the original. Where's the paid promotion notice?

[@PeterKotsa]

My oversight..just clicked the link Thanks for letting me know, cheers

[@thegorn]

Is there really a market for these ladies-sized watches?

[@DrDjDD]

😂

[@jontpt]

Clever marketing strategy to omit a 40 mm in favor of a 41 and 38. They're probably selling a lot more watches that way, to both new and existing customers

[@FlightEagle]

I don't see too many similarities between the Helm Vanuatu and the Erebus Origin. No more than you see between most dive watches. What is the same - rectangular lumed indicies? except the Origin has a double indice at 12 compared to the Helm's single. The bezel notches are cut differently, the bezel inlay is completely different. The hour and minute hands on the Origin are pointed compared to the rectangular hands on the Vanuatu. The seconds hand is different. Yes, the share a stainless steel case, like 90% of divers do. The lugs look different. The crown guards look different. Internally, yes, they share the same bland NH35 movement like so many micro brands - but that isn't visible. The Vanuatu only comes with 1 dial choice - black, compared to the rainbow of colours available with the Origin. You are taking a huge, unjustified, leap to say the Origin is in any way a copy or homage of the Vanuatu.

[@ThemysteriousMrP]

Thank you! I agree wholeheartedly

[@Gr33nMachine83]

Paid promotion?

[@PeterKotsa]

My oversight..just clicked the link Thanks for letting me know, cheers

[@robberlin2230]

Nothing wrong with the new Erebus. In 100 years my kids will be selling them for 24,000 dollars, but that will also buy minimum chips with inflation at that time

[@adrianomazzanti497]

Way too small. Next!

[@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv]

Crap. Like really crap.

[@watchingbrief7072]

Thanks for the constructive feedback. Very helpful.

[@Timetrends-n5t]

EREBUS?? ... wtf ... can´t they come up with e better brand name? The number of watches I skip because of the name is getting longer and longer

[@violinmke]

Fussy fussy. Erebus, in Greek religion, the god of a dark region of the underworld and the personification of darkness. Erebus is one of the primordial beings in the Greek creation myth.

[@Timetrends-n5t]

@@violinmke great 😫

[@HoaxersUltima33]

he is the offspring of Chaos, and the father of Aether and Hemera (Day) by Nyx (Night);

[@Timetrends-n5t]

@@HoaxersUltima33 terrible name nonetheless

[@slavemi3018]

FIRST! Pin!