Erica Stefanko: I Wasn't Sad Ashley Biggs Was Dead

Defendant Erica Stefanko takes the stand in the Pizza Delivery Murder Retrial and says she wasn't sad that the victim, Ashley Biggs, was killed after her alleged bogus pizza order.
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[@TrudylynnGunn]

@COURTTV is there a video of cross examination? I cannot find it.. Thank you

[@SummerMcKlusky]

What she said ☝🏼

[@Janis.7-]

Yeah is there ?

[@Janis.7-]

What’s Chad’s last name ?

[@leslievasquez2645]

@@Janis.7- Cobb

[@TheAngie2920]

Education certainly doesn’t mean someone has any common sense.

[@Stray..]

So true

[@zackkazco2098]

You just made an accurate statement for all the clueless liberal dumocrats in these woke marxist colleges

[@TexasBluebonnets22]

@@Stray..or a conscience!!!

[@Fee212]

THAT'S for damn sure

[@karenmclaughlan9128]

Damn right...All brains and no sense

[@mariadavis8745]

So she tells Chad that she doesn’t want drugs in the house because of the kids but she takes her kids along to a murder! That’s some screwed up morals.

[@lyndsayasia7939]

Well who knows the real picture 💖

[@dianagallegos9026]

Shes trying not to say I believe he's as guilty as her

[@deep153]

@ERIXA boundaries 01 She says No To Drugs but YES to ADULTERY FORNICATION LYING STEALING DECEPTIVE MOTIVES ahhhh and MURDER ERICA; No one can judge Wot😮 Life in prison JUDGE you mean 30yrs most,time I WILL serve behind bars. I will do alcohol drug testing I have limits Ok I'm young

[@userKIGE]

Exactly 💯😮🤔🤔

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

No no you got it wrong , she brought kids AND drugs to set victim up , long as drugs not in the house 🏡

[@Alphacat1100]

I’m new to this case. But this lawyer, laughing, chuckling, is shocking! I have never seen a lawyer do something like this and I’ve worked in courtrooms for years. This is beyond inappropriate!!!

[@Liz-up2ti]

Omg, I keep wondering why...it's just so weird. I don't know why he laughs at all the stupid tactics these two employed

[@KristenNicole616]

Seems like he's trying to play both sides like some questions and comments as if he's the prosecution but he's her defense at the same time😂

[@kimberlychelen9890]

Stop laughing 🤡 attorney! There is NOTHING amusing nor funny about ANY OF THIS! Evil, doesn't even come close to describing Erica (and Chad). Too, too many murders attributed to custody battles. In the end, the child/children have neither of these "battling parents"... Heartbreaking.

[@jordanleighwheatley]

I thought the same thing. It's a weird strategy

[@FlowerPowerWV]

He's acting like, "it's ridiculous to think you're guilty." But it's disrespectful and obnoxious.

[@kimtaylor7162]

Did they ever consider how traumatised Grace would be by her mother being murdered??!

[@kateG9]

Didn’t she feed her dog poop? Doubt they cared.

[@tomhays2704]

3😅ķmok03i GTG zh😂35😂76o3umm😮js8y😮i kav 🫂 😅😅😮7d8u​@@kateG9

[@ReeRee9]

Not for a second! Erica was a raging alcoholic who was jealous of Michael’s relationship with his daughter…….evil.

[@Tritiuminducedfusion]

​@@kateG9How do you know that?

[@kimtaylor7162]

depends if you believe her explanation on that per it being meatloaf. @@kateG9

[@Bluenariangirl]

Her lawyer didn't do her any favors. I can't believe that she took the stand - but I am so glad she did. Admitting to all the "new" crimes/felonies - wow. I am so glad this jury got it right again. Justice for Ashley.

[@K.Adamsan]

Ashley sucked!

[@janephillips3627]

That man questioning her is not her attorney.

[@Trouble-Clef]

It’s her right. Even if her lawyer advises against it. And before she does the judge always questions them about it first. And asks them if they want to take the stand. And when they say no the judge also asks if it’s their own decision and if they pressured or not. So if a defendant wants to testify there’s nothing their lawyer can do about it.

[@Trouble-Clef]

@@janephillips3627 Yes he is. The only people that can question her on the stand are her lawyers, and the prosecution lawyers. It’s normal to have more than one lawyer in a murder trial. For example: one of her lawyers may specialize in evidence, while another one may specializing in direct or cross examination, and so on. And the prosecution can have more than one lawyer as well, for exactly the same reasons. Murder trial can be very involved, especially one that was already over-turned on appeal.

[@kelli7]

Idk about this case....this one is new to me.

[@mariadavis8745]

Why does her lawyer think it’s funny that she tried to ruin someone’s life? I hate that he laughs.

[@looking4things669]

He's just as slimy as she is.

[@Liz-up2ti]

Yeah...same...some say it's a tactic to help her relax but I call BS...it just seems insensitive, there's nothing comical about this case...

[@jessvickery7686]

It had to be some sort of tactic. I can't imagine any other reason for it.

[@MsKaramelbrowne]

It was hard ASF to listen, let alone look at him make stupid gestures while making questionable facial expressions (smiling, damn near cheesing) while he posed the same questions in different ways. 😒

[@larajhilton]

He doesn’t… he’s relaxed her to get her talking. It’s an effective tactic. We see a more human side to her, that’s what he wants us to see. She’s an educated woman, loves her children etc. But none of the facts of the case were diminished during his questioning. Her explanations give us everything we need to know … and the horror of it… and the perversity of it. Kids in the car , breast feeding a baby whilst they go to kill/hurt someone😳.

[@JessLBreen]

Her defense lawyer did a FABULOUS job working for the prosecution to secure a conviction!

[@circesoul2218]

Maybe he has morals and realizes she needs to be locked up.

[@buellacalhoun7504]

He really set her up .

[@buellacalhoun7504]

Dam! He making her tell it all as if he is the prosecutor.

[@buellacalhoun7504]

He must be a rookie ass defense lawyer A silly one at that.

[@MariaLopez-mi4ol]

He sounds like the P.A.!!!!!

[@corinadaschievici9002]

How can you trap someone innocent ,take her life and continue to live normally? How ?.

[@barbmurray8557]

Ask her. She did it very easily

[@TheVAULTofHORROR]

Narcissism

[@AliceA333]

I'm trying to imagine someone I truly hate, somebody who I feel like "absolutely wronged me" (2 people throughout my life come to mind, as far as what I'd consider doing things wrong toward me for personal gain). I couldn't do this them. Not sure how she justifies this to herself, but I imagine by telling herself she did it for the good of the child (the child Erica & her husband treated like garbage, I've become sure of)

[@corinadaschievici9002]

@@AliceA333 and the way she values her life is like it all it matters. I couldn't believe at one point she said " I didn't feel bad she's dead". She was worried about her husband not having a partner. Really? I'm sure he will soon.

[@AliceA333]

@@corinadaschievici9002 I think she had to admit that she didn't care she was dead, or risk not looking credible. If she pretended to care suddenly with all the evidence she hated her guts, it would make the entire testimony seem false. I can't think of any way she had to get out of this, and I'm thankful for that because I think she's right where she belongs.

[@celticwarrior777]

Never let a man drag you into his past domestic mess. Dont spend your life in prison for any man

[@Janice-f9g]

AMEN!

[@nakha9123]

Good call. God bless your words and answer this beautiful wish for all of the people on the world.

[@jbb4019]

Or women

[@AlGrant-bh9or]

Seen it happen with women pretty often.

[@sayitaintso684]

She instigated it make no mistake. A lot of women instigate this very behavior

[@urrutia8able]

No remorse whatsoever

[@jenniehughes6927]

That constant blinking is annoying.

[@XxDyneXxFreeEnergyx]

​​@@jenniehughes6927 Blinking is related to the cardio vascular system something to do with heartbeats and pulse rate I believe.

[@goofydufus]

Sadly if she was capable of showing remorse she probably wouldn't have done the crime to begin with. Expecting a conscience from people without a conscience is delusional.

[@KohalaLover]

Erika comes across as detached with no warmth. Even her voice is flat. No empathy for the victim. Allows her boyfriend/husband to be violent with the children and the dog.

[@lindsay8003]

Yeah she’s one of those obsessive women when it comes to her significant other. Seems to be the only thing she cares about or shows feelings towards.

[@diane4488]

​@@lindsay8003 That's very self centred and narcissistic. She seems very proud of herself, and deluded, in this questioning. Very perky and arrogant, which is shocking, given the circumstances.

[@nybrite46]

I cannot believe this evil monster got another trial 🤬

[@fearless7989]

Me neither ugh. If I'd been the prosecutor, I'd have objected to all the completely irrelevant biographical and historical info her attorney asked her for the purpose of getting the jury to get used to her/like her. Did I need to know how many times she moved as a child, or how many dudes she's shacked up with? No I did not.

[@WyattRyeSway]

Yeah, all because he testified via camera during a pandemic when everything had to be done by a camera. It’s nauseating

[@Dee-ur1hk]

@@WyattRyeSwaythat made me so mad that she got a new trial. She was given a fair trial. I watched every second of her first trial and I thought the judge did a fabulous job. Now EVERYTHING has to be redone. So frustrating

[@charrielyn1231]

@@Dee-ur1hk Yeah - how come so many trials are “unfair” now - give me a break!!! It certainly isn’t happening as much as new trials are being doled out

[@scroogemcduckrich9705]

she’s going to be found guilty again. she’s a sociopath

[@FMT2003]

What is wrong with this defense attorney? He’s laughing and acting like a comedian-so unprofessional.

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

Strange

[@looking4things669]

It's because the defense is a joke. It's as believable as she is innocent. NOT!

[@lydibug51]

He's goofy 🤪 AF😅

[@diane4488]

Maybe he actually wanted to show her, as the thoughtless and uncaring person that she is. Perhaps he didn't believe she should get off lightly.

[@SwedBaben]

This lawyer comes off extremely unprofessional, laughing and snickering about a child losing her mom to murder.

[@gregmontbello6969]

I thought this was fake for a while with that lawyer laughing like that. Unreal. Laughing straight to a life without parole sentence

[@alllifematters]

Omg he has got to be the worst lawyer! I think she realized after he asked her if she knew that throwing her phone out the window was another felony of tampering with evidence, her face changes .. I cannot believe how he's laughing, it's almost makes me wonder if it's his past day on the job or something

[@JoST41]

I think he’s laughing at her stupidity and how senseless her actions were.

[@nadinekeating3255]

I don't believe for a second that she thought Chad was just going to plant drugs in Ashley's car. I think she definitely made that call to Domino's, knowing she was luring Ashley to her death.

[@niyaranerhe5849]

Definitely!

[@waynefoote3781]

Yes...Plus she had years to come up with that story!

[@meurumtrain4747]

I mean I do believe her that she expected the planting.

[@waynefoote3781]

She also expected the killing and the jury agreed.

[@Joyce-dd3fm]

GUILTY for sure

[@rogvortex58]

There’s a recording of her admitting to helping him. She lured her there. She’s guilty. Lock her up and throw away the key.

[@melizakipple2769]

She says Chad was abusive to her and kids but doesn't believe he was abusive to Ashley

[@juliarussell5619]

She also says a bit later that he normally had a very calm demeanor. I wouldn't expect that of someone constantly abusing their family...

[@sayitaintso684]

@@juliarussell5619my money’s on her being a hothead!

[@kaylynroth8847]

She is so guilty

[@militantnormal428]

“Not alot of things to do or places to go”. Gee, sounds like what jail is supposed to be like!

[@SouthPawGirlie]

😂😂😂

[@hellothere918]

I think she blinked more times in this video than i have all year! How exhausting!

[@celticwarrior777]

😂😂😂

[@makaveli4205]

Ya its really annoying

[@hellothere918]

Im surprised her eyelashes havnt fallen off 😂

[@cherylmyke1693]

You all would hate me….. I have Tourette Syndrome and I blink all of the time..

[@laurenhoffman2751]

Didn’t notice the blinking now it’s all I c

[@vintagebeliever5023]

What kind of mother drags their children out at that time of night for such evil.

[@barbaranoel3186]

When the husband is a controller

[@bigfishbunny77]

As a female pizza delivery driver, I can confirm, you have to be a certain kind of person to do this job, especially as a female. You are significantly more likely to be murdered on the job than a cop. At one point, the bureau of Labor and statistics had it listed as the 5th most dangerous job in the United States.

[@melissadesaire1989]

Really??? I didn't realize... would nvr had expected

[@julianyc422]

You mean big fancy No. 1 America filled with freedom? Not cement parking lots with the same few stores, and unregistered, unregulated guns everywhere and no universal healthcare or childcare or free healthy food for school children

[@allisonhaskell5440]

@@melissadesaire1989oh yea think about they get called to any and all addresses ! Never know whose behind the door.

[@MaribethKing-j5v]

Why was Ashley murdered?

[@rdv217]

​@allisonhaskell5440 or if someone could be setting them up for something!!!? Scary!!!

[@Indiartworks]

"Are these the actions of a good mother? Are these the actions of a good person" "no." Are these the actions of a cunning, decietful, selfish murderer? Yes!!! Its sickening that the defense attorney actually said "For the kids sake did you not go to the police station?" How about "For the kids sake, you set up their Mother to have their entire life ruined, and murder her in the process? Is that for the kids sake also?"

[@tinab3627]

That’s why they get paid the big bucks. It’s what defense attorneys do

[@HollyGW]

Sorry but I must...'i' before 'e' except after 'c'...."deceitful" not "decietful"

[@alyssaadams1698]

@@HollyGW 'except for before c' always changes when I sing it in my head 😅 "except before.. what is it before?, or wait is it after? 🤔😒"

[@HollyGW]

@@alyssaadams1698 lol 😂

[@mandilynn24]

😂😂😂

[@mariadavis8745]

If she’s capable of setting someone up like that, she’s capable of co murdering someone.

[@looking4things669]

You can bet she had both feet in and loved plotting and conniving to destroy Amber's life. And she did it with a smile.

[@Tritiuminducedfusion]

​@@looking4things669You mean Ashley?

[@looking4things669]

She's as believable as when my uncle dressed up as Santa. 🎅🌲🌲

[@SaffronHammer]

This lawyer is oddly upbeat about it all, even jovial, laughing quite a bit.

[@Chicagocubbiegirl]

He's getting paid and has 0 pressure. Everyone knows she's guilty as hell.

[@ssmith364]

For a minute- I thought this was the prosecution by the way he was questioning her

[@SaffronHammer]

@@ssmith364 same! And I kept waiting for the objection from the defense.

[@larajhilton]

@@Chicagocubbiegirlthere’s always pressure to win. Your track record has to be wins rather than losses. Nobody hires a lawyer with too many losses. And no law firm keeps a lawyer with too many losses because it reflects on them.

[@Decades-pl2kl]

Probably smoked 🚬 a bag of 🌿 before court

[@miogi0072]

Remorse? I don't see any indication of that whatsoever but what I do see is the desperate escape from accountability.

[@yanglin2209]

I thought a professional attorney would not often do that kind of laugh while questioning/commenting🤔

[@ashdixon945]

Same thought

[@newnana9070]

He wasn’t laughing because things are comical. That’s to relax the defendant. (I like you and I’m a nice guy).

[@blueplum143]

I don't mind it; I can understand him being affected by her ridiculousness it appears internally he's not buying it and isn't hiding it very well.

[@waynefoote3781]

YES He tried to make it seem so lackadaisical...I thought about that too that did NOT work!

[@Jazlin92665]

Defense attorneys are often very childish.

[@gaylereid8264]

Why does this lawyer smile & chuckle during this woman’s testimony? Please ???

[@Ms.Ramellibaby]

He is so annoying! His questions are stupid too. I wouldn't hire him off of this trial alone

[@bluecube7247]

Because true psychopaths cannot mimick all human emotions... they frequently reveal a very dark abnormal emotions in that way.... inappropriately entertained by a crime.... he is a monster defending monsters because he relates to them.

[@heatherann1560]

What is with the attorney laughing so inappropriate

[@AG-hg2oc]

I think he's being sarcastic... maybe mocking her.

[@JannatulFerdousluna]

Same question!!!

[@JannatulFerdousluna]

What's his problem!

[@dianapaxton6373]

When people do things like this they never think they are going to get caught!

[@newnana9070]

You never admit that you’re not sad the murdered ex is dead. Just say that you’re not happy either. Because of the child involved. Especially when you drove the killer to the spot to do the deed. She admitted that she made the call to get her to the lot where she was attacked. She assisted in the murder!!! Guilty. I don’t understand how people end up with their partners best friend?? How does that work???

[@mariabarco7226]

Lacking imagination!

[@alabama.worley]

​@@mariabarco7226Lacking a conscience and empathy.

[@mariadavis8745]

She admits to not wanting to lose her husband even though she knew he committed a murder. What does that say about her?

[@sayitaintso684]

Her “abusive” husband. Her words

[@mariadavis8745]

What a stupid weak argument to say that with Ashley dead they wouldn’t get custody because they’d be the main suspects. Does this stupid lawyer not know that murderers never think they’re going to get caught? His questioning is really very annoying!

[@kelliannbyrnes9335]

I agree This guy is a shmuck His laughing and smiley and his comments like oh so you tampered with evidence and oh your actions caused like 3 felonies and blah blah blah He’s ridiculous

[@katmah78]

Grow a conscience… she never had one. And omg 😮she was breastfeeding her son, what a hero of a mother. GTFO. 😡 Waiting for the prosecutor to take her down.

[@georgeeatmon7673]

She admitted to calling for the pizza delivery so isn't she basically admitting to felony murder ? Same thing someone robbs a bank someone dies everyone involved is charged with the death, felony murder

[@a_lucientes]

That's if someone dies in the commission of a felony. Idk the facts in this case but the difference is that calling a pizza order in is not a crime, having any part in a bank robbery is.

[@georgeeatmon7673]

@@a_lucientes that pizza delivery girl did die

[@christina5kids16grands]

The crime she was involved in committing was not what she thought it’d be. He switched up the plan without her knowledge. She’s still guilty of a crime - just not murder imo.

[@waynefoote3781]

YES...She knew exactly what would happen to this poor lady when SHE made the phone call.... and made up this story while in jail for the last couple of years. I think that she deserves to be found guilty.

[@waynefoote3781]

That poor lady did die because she was lured into a trap by this terrible stepmom. @@a_lucientes

[@MaribethKing-j5v]

You can educate a person, but you can't make them smart.

[@mikecartermulcy]

Lawyer implied she started growing a conscience? Doubt that...

[@ssmith364]

This is her lawyer!?!?! The way he mocks her about ruining her life committing felonies AND her poor choices….. IMO he didn’t help her DEFENSE.

[@DestinyV-px5mr]

I literally thought he was for the other side. He must have wanted her to go to prison.

[@zamangwanekhanyile3962]

He was acting on the word of karma, which told him to throw this thorn under the bus

[@realtsarbomba]

Actually her lawyer did pristine work against all the evidence and witnesses, managing to reduce the potential sentence.

[@MikeWilliams-pk6oz]

We’ll see what’s so funny when the verdict is read😳😳😳

[@lilyreyes6807]

😆😆😆😆right!

[@elaineg60]

This defense attorney’s behavior is beyond bizarre..chuckling, joking around…talking about this crime. I’m…out of speechlesses…

[@sheilarainey218]

Unbelievable she got another trial hopefully back in soon 🙏🙏🙏

[@matthewkuffler3680]

Wym? She helped and more than likely planned the murder. So why should she get a 3rd trial? She lost both and is definitely guilty tax payers money shouldn't be used for someone clearly guilty with no remorse to have a other shot at freedom.

[@buffyregalado7210]

This defense lawyer is so inappropriate for all the cringe laughing 🙄

[@debramarshall7264]

Her lawyer sounded more like a prosecutor. He didn't help her in my opinion. What an idiot🙄

[@celticwarrior777]

He did i thought he was the prosecutor at first

[@zamangwanekhanyile3962]

He knew she was vile.. He just couldn't help himself

[@perfectionnotallowed6093]

I want to give a shout out to the defense attorney for his contribution to the prosecutor’s case. 😂

[@SAMeyer-hh7cv]

Watch her eyes blinking...looking to the right...she is lying! She is more involved than what she is admitting to. She colluded in taking a life...called and ordered the pizza, set Ashley up and drove the getaway car...probably more than that. She is just as guilty as Chad. Lock her up!

[@Blue_SeaSmoke]

its people like you that nake me want to take a year off from anything true crime or court related....A blinking eye???

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

It’s to the left 😂 but yes this is well planned

[@nybrite46]

Don't talk about it, be about it 😂👋​@@Blue_SeaSmoke

[@mandymags411]

Rapid eye blinking is a sign that one is being dishonest. Ask any body language expert. It's not simply blinking. Normally people do not blink super fast the way she is.

[@bostonb4kedbeans]

​@@nybrite46you're weird

[@waynefoote3781]

Didn't her stepdaughter say in the first trial that Ericka fed this poor child dog feces? THAT IS UNSPEAKABLE if true. And she deserves to stay in jail just for that.....ATROCIOUS isn't a good enough word.

[@WyattRyeSway]

Oh apparently it was meatloaf. Yeah, I’m not buying that either. I believe the step-daughter

[@James_Doyle83]

Yes she did

[@emoliver80]

That was covered here. She said his daughter was around 4 and having a rough day, Erika made meatloaf for dinner and the daughter said "ew. This is dog poop. Im not eating this" and Erika said "yes, it is dog poop, and you ARE going to eat it." I dont believe a lot out of her mouth, but this is one thing im unsure if its a lie bc its absolutely something a small child would say, and a response from a "mom" who is fed up for the day. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@waynefoote3781]

Hmmmmmmm. I wonder what the daughter will say now that she is older. Maybe you are right. Still it is a Horrible thing to say to anyone.

[@newnana9070]

@@waynefoote3781 One moment of bad parenting. I’m sure we have all had more than 2 or 3 ourselves!!!

[@HeartVisions]

It boggles the mind how people like this girl can participate in another woman's murder and thinks she has a right to her own life. I hope they keep her locked her up for the rest of her sorry life. She has NO remorse whatsoever.

[@mazzy131]

1:36:28 if anyone wants the time stamp of when she said, she wasnt sad that Ashley was dead.

[@shmoopiebear]

The defendent's counsel is either a rookie or incompetant. The defendant saying she isn't sad the victim is dead literally implicated herself. And both lawyer and defendant laughing, showing no remorse to the victim, and playing victim for her choices are not endearing themselves to the jury. What a kangaroo court.

[@ronniesapp4469]

She has a psychology degree Wow

[@bettykeller7576]

Why is the defense attorney snickering

[@bluecube7247]

Because he enjoys hearing his client describe her crimes.... he's a psychopath

[@cherylmyke1693]

I think its to make the jury feel that this is just silly, laughable to even ask the question …..

[@lisahentschell4741]

Why does she get parole in 30 years? She deserves no parole at all.

[@Freethemotherfknunicorns]

this lawyer is disgusting the way hes laughing .... a person was murdered like wtaf

[@bluecube7247]

Psychopath... defending criminals because he's really on their side, if they're guilty. He is very entertained and thrilled by his clients crimes

[@Ladiescodelavely]

@@bluecube7247you really know nothing about how defence lawyers work do you?

[@Danijean85]

Is her lawyer roasting her?

[@shanks4391]

Perfect description! I couldn't find the right way to describe this evil clown show.

[@ethanadjack5289]

"so now you're tampering with evidence, lmao, that's another felony right lol?" - Erica's Attorney

[@heycesa]

Wow, her lawyer's questions helped convict her? Had her admit on the stand to a felony- felony murder.

[@zeldafitzgerald3530]

She was more prepared with stories this time trying to explain it all away.

[@deefredericks6446]

Urgh, that lawyer constantly “laughing/giggling” is cringe worthy, annoying, and quite frankly, not right !

[@brendabaldino8857]

This is HER lawyer??!!?! The prosecutor is going to simply say "no further questions"

[@levithewonderdog335]

😂😂😂

[@300sl5]

Hello COURTTV, why do they not show the cross examination ?

[@spalanki352]

I'm wondering the same

[@galaxyglitterlatte4664]

I will NEVER understand how people think can get away with sh*t like this! And I want to ask them: "Was it worth it? Now YOUR life is over." And why do lawyers ask such stupid questions like, "What did your parents do for a living?" What the hell does this have to do with anything?????? Who cares???????

[@nora__]

I’ve heard lawyers chuckle/laugh a little in questioning because they want to sort of emphasize that a point or accusation made by the prosecution is ridiculous or illogical. But this lawyer doing it continuously throughout is in bad taste and inappropriate.

[@BlessedMomfmTexas]

I think her attorney actually Cracked her, in a good way.

[@zamangwanekhanyile3962]

Thank you. He got her guide down

[@dorishernandez3221]

She was cruel with her step daughter 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@looking4things669]

Didn't her stepdaughter testify, in the first trial, that she forced her to eat dog doo?

[@dudemorris7769]

@@looking4things669yes and that was proven to be a lie. Chad even admitted it wasn’t dog poop & said it was blueberry yogurt. Erica explains this that it was meatloaf & the blueberry yogurt was for an antibiotic to be fed to her.

[@69footballgoats]

⁠@@dudemorris7769she says she told the 4yo stepdaughter ‘yes it is dog poop and you’re going to eat it’. Irrespective of whether it actually was dog poo or not, to make a young child believe they are being forced to eat dog poo is cruelty and emotional abuse 😮 stop defending bad parenting

[@tinab3627]

I don’t believe she didn’t know. She helped Chad with everything. She would help him to commit murder as well

[@suzerick75116]

She also said she didn't say anything to the police about what he did because she wanted to be with him and the children. That is a totally sick mind to want to be with a murderer and her children to be around him as well which puts them in danger. She is a terrible so called "mother".

[@zamangwanekhanyile3962]

She made a lot of bad choices trying to hold on to the life, to the man she thought was her everything

[@CaraMills0106]

Why is this attorney laughing, I am not sure but I am guessing he is laughing at the stupidity of this witness/ defendant testimony.

[@HeadNtheClouds]

He is high on mushrooms 😂

[@VioletJoy]

No doubt it's a tactic, but it's very off-putting.

[@Chicagocubbiegirl]

How is her life in prison relevant? None of this should be allowed.

[@interestedobserver587]

Agreed.

[@devidsndl2913]

This lawyer was supposed to help her but instead he did sink her.

[@filomenadossantos4120]

This lawyers manner is a first, laughing and smiling when questioning a suspected murderer

[@BlueMoiraine]

It often doesn't work out in the defendant's favour when they testify for themselves.

[@holaholahola473]

She didn't say I feel remorse that Ashley is no longer here. I feel remorse that a baby girl lost their momma. Because everything that happened led to that one awful moment that changed so many lives.

[@EmperorOfMan]

She's trying to get convicted twice?! At least pretend girl!

[@christina5kids16grands]

She admitted to felonies on the stand. She minimized nothing. I don’t know her nor do I know her family (I’m clear out in Seattle), but I do not believe she knew he was going to murder her.

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

So what

[@majo7028]

@@christina5kids16grands Then they are very naive

[@AKA-Nana]

These women, with kids, that throw their lives away for a man or jealousy or whatever is shocking. Hope her children are okay and being raised by better people.

[@Bradysmommy]

Take a drink every time the lawyer says “turkey foot lake road”

[@karenmclaughlan9128]

She says....how can anyone do that to an animal. Yet she didn't mind luring Ashley to have her killed....yeah...sure!

[@Neraa777]

Her lawyer is just deflecting off her into Chad. I’m not buying this BS, she had tooooo many chances to go to the police and she chose not too 😳 she is just as guilty

[@zmancan5290]

Erica minimizes more than a browser window when your boss walks in. Hard to believe her defense is to admit to multiple crimes to make her seem more credible when she denies the ultimate crime of conspiracy to murder. Luckily she won't convince any jury of this. If you are willing to plant drugs and frame a mother to get custody, if you are willing to commit felonies, it logically follows your moral compass is so off that you would also be willing to facilitate a murder.

[@kaylynroth8847]

Ashley is dead..she has no remorse...

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

How can she have remorse 😢she’s guilty but what’s happening hung jury first trial “

[@dianapaxton6373]

He is leading the witness!

[@m.w.976]

*The entire time the defense was leading! Apparently the prosecution just let it go 'cause the defense was helping his client hang herself.*

[@vivaldi1948]

Worst actress ever! Well rehearsed but lacks emotion and sincerity. Flat affect.

[@ssmith364]

What is her attorney defense strategy….cuz it seems like he is trying to make her look like a freaking joke…..

[@sayitaintso684]

To convict her this time 👏👏👏👏

[@Lindsay8585]

She doesn't seem to be taking this seriously...super odd person.

[@rjfoster5496]

Yeah definitely a lack of empathy

[@butterflydana3856]

Of course Erica wasn't sad that Ashley was gone; probably very happy. I mean look what she did to Ashley's daughter "eat dog do do"

[@Badgerlife]

Prove that

[@christina5kids16grands]

It was freakin meatloaf 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@HeadNtheClouds]

It was cat poo poo baked in a casserole with hamburger helper.

[@Badgerlife]

@@HeadNtheClouds give me a break

[@looking4things669]

Her last hubby said she smiled when she called Dominos.

[@doygazgar]

You don't see many defence attorneys help the prosecution out, but this guy did 😅😅😅 he helped to convict her AGAIN 😅

[@BookishDark]

I’m happy to see so many people thinking the lawyers snickering is disgusting. I thought it was just me.

[@girlmom0849]

I hope this attorney was appointed and not purchased. Geez smh he did her no favors 😮

[@kimbercoleman7089]

Every time I hear a professional say "Cops" it is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

[@cherylmyke1693]

I absolutely despise the term COP,. In my mind it’s so disrespectful..

[@OMWone6629]

Its throwing me that the lawyer is laughing at them planting drugs and the other things he snickered at. Its not a time to be laughing.

[@ShoeChic5441]

This attorney is one of those people who make inappropriate jokes or comments at the worst possible times😮

[@AliceA333]

Ok guys, this is the 2nd time recently we hear about somebody offering the ex $ to give up custody before just killing them (Donna Adelson). If your ex offers you $ for this, be afraid....

[@Catmommy711]

Right!

[@annied9864]

She reminds me of Latricia Stuac

[@jeanettesmith765]

She seems so cold about the death of Ashley Biggs.

[@adeledorman6447]

Jealousy

[@Indiartworks]

Her defense of "it wouldnt make any sense" is bs. Of course she would assume that if Ashley was dead the other parent would gain custody of their child! She was just too stupid to relize that that would be the xase if they were not the obvious suspects!

[@kittybridgeman3524]

Worst grammar, wow

[@Chilisparkinglot]

Where is cross

[@kaylynroth8847]

I call BS..

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

Of what ? She’s honest and guilty af . You mean the babe in the woods act but she admitted to being complicit.

[@ssmith364]

All of this over CUSTODY!!!! Smh….so many lives ruined for custody!! That expires by age 18!!!!

[@Tadzio5050]

would someone drop a link for the cross-examination? Thanks!