Erie Lackawanna Bippus to Hammond Indiana

[@LotusbandicootRR]

They're here! I can REALLY nail down some of the locations if anyone is interested. 0:00 is at the north end of Huntington, the US 24 overpass is in the background at 0:19. 0:48 Clear Creek Rd. looking east toward 300W, northwest of Huntington 1:17 900W/Bedwell St. crossing 1:28 WN Tower at Newton Junction (EL/PRR) east of Laketon. SR13 overpass is visible in the distance. 1:44 Same train, looking west toward Laketon. There used to be a crossing here but it was cut off. 1:56 RX Interlocking, west of Laketon. This is where the single mainline split into the old two mainlines again. The signal tower and signal in the distance are both still standing. (The signal is buried in trees and impossible to see most of the year, but the signal tower is out in the open.) 2:27 W 1050N crossing between Laketon and Disko. RX signal tower is visible again at 2:56 3:05 SR15 two-level overpass near Disko. This area has been filled in using some of the railbed fill and completely leveled, as far as highway grade goes. Much of the tall rail grade still runs through the countryside leading up to it though. 3:26 300W between Disko and Akron, IN. Probably the best footage of EL's grade separation out there 3:33 Same spot. At 3:52 the 1475E bridge is visible. Last time I passed through, the bridge still stands. 4:13 Shot from a bridge that used to stand on 400S at Disko. 1475E bridge is in the distance again. 4:20 Same train and spot. Train is heading east toward the main crossing in Disko. 4:44 Akron depot in its original location down by the SR19 crossing, where it remained until recently when it was moved into downtown and opened as a coffee house. 4:53 The Revelation West End video claimed this is near Rochester. 5:00 SR25 crossing near Rochester 5:43 Shot from Erie St. in Rochester, at the diamond with the former Nickel Plate IMC Division 6:06 Rochester Erie depot, near Fulton Ave. The depot still stands, as far as I know. (Flasher signal at 6:40 was still in place as of 2017, though the lights have long been removed from it.) 7:23 Back at Erie Ave. The gated signal still stood as of 2019, though the gate arm and flashers have been removed for a long time. 8:05 200N crossing west of Rochester. After this point, I become less intimately familiar with the locations 8:16 Leiters Ford, IN. Depot was moved to a park in Delphi, IN 10:39 Monterey depot. Still standing, but only ever got halfway through a restoration and has been sitting for years. 10:56 Tippecanoe River bridge near Monterey That's about where my precision cuts off. North Judson would've been an amazing place to railfan in those days.

[@johnschultz9023]

I saved and restored several E-L signals for the HVRM in North Judson. 908-2, 921-1, 948-1, which was at Leiters Ford and I got it moved to the museum.

[@johnschultz9023]

I saved and restored several E-L signals for the HVRM in North Judson. 908-2, 921-1, 948-1, which was at Leiters Ford and I got it moved to the museum.

[@johnschultz9023]

I saved and restored several E-L signals for the HVRM in North Judson. 908-2, 921-1, 948-1, which was at Leiters Ford and I got it moved to the museum.

[@johnschultz9023]

I saved and restored several E-L signals for the HVRM in North Judson. 908-2, 921-1, 948-1, which was at Leiters Ford and I got it moved to the museum.

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Thanks! I've pinned your comment to make it easier to see.

[@blainenodes8182]

Great footage❗the consists,the out bldgs,the signals,real enjoyment from MN 🥶,railfan 75 yrs👍👍

[@GmanftpG59]

so awesome seeing my hometown of Griffith getting such a big section

[@milepost4846]

Wow! I am lost for words on this coverage. Wish I could have seen all this in person. Griffith, IN looks like that would have been a great spot to sit and watch trains back in the day.

[@simonetaormina7080]

I’m modeling the Erie RR in N scale , great video

[@ssnk79]

These EL Videos are awesome!

[@HenrikSweden1]

great video ! fantastic to be able to trainfan after all these years, look at all those freightcars. its is so 1970s, thanks !

[@wmuzeke]

33 years after the Revelation Video came out on VHS, it's nice to finally to watch the director's cut of Paul Geiger's EL Indiana footage. Your transfer from 8mm to digital is fantastic. One of my favorite "outtakes" is at the end when Paul is waiting in traffic in downtown Hammond on Fayette St. as the outbound Amtrak James Whitcomb Riley passes through. What a scene. As a nod to Ron's EL West End video, I muted the projector sound and watched this while listening to Strauss’ Wiener Philharmoniker Fanfare and Schubert's Symphony #3 (2nd movement).

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

This was transferred with a Retro-8 by MovieStuff, but it still required a lot of processing to remove heavy amounts of film grain and to improve the contrast of the transfers.

[@jjstrains4547]

The projector sound really makes it for me. Reminds me of the past.

[@kelvintorrence5994]

love the big e,my favoritr road

[@artillerest43rdva7]

so great that someone was there to catch all these wonderful roads on the rails! the ones at the end I have never seen before, it was so interesting seeing all of the different trains, crazy the wobble in the rails.

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing. Very much enjoying these videos. 👍

[@brianidzior5488]

Amazing video

[@bobtrevorah2305]

Awesome vintage footage, but had to squash the projector rattle. Two thumbs up!

[@markshogan2642]

I remember the EL at Sterling Ohio where it crossed the B&O. The track wasn’t all that bad there. I also remember train 28 out of Cleveland Union Terminal. The Youngstown commuter was the last train out of the terminal. It lasted into Conrail. I still have an original Erie Lackawanna jacket from the early 70’s. It’s torn on one spot, but it’s a reminder of the past. By the way, I love those semaphores.

[@dontderockmerizz3211]

Cool to see the IHB switcher engines. I live next the main line where it crosses the NS (former N&W & Wabash) in Chicago ridge. VERY busy line. Any clips of the wabash line from Chicago to Bement?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Not that I have.

[@chatanugadotorg]

When it comes to railroading, there are times I think I was born in the wrong decade/era.

[@albertcarello619]

@chatanugad...: I think I was born at just the right era enjoying seeing all these lines when I was a kid. My Dad would drive various places and we'd come access railroad after railroad.

[@Bri-rb5lq]

Me too😮

[@Bri-rb5lq]

Very good video I wish I had a copy of this❤

[@bobpoortinga7352]

Absolutely fabulous!!!

[@ericsimmons7716]

11:50 At North Judson, Indiana, a westbound Erie Lackawanna train crosses the Bradford side diamonds, located to the right of the tower.

[@spaceghost8995]

The EL line is a rail trail from Judson east to Ora. It's just 12 miles but it's a start! Just biked it yesterday!

[@squirrelguy2195]

It's so cool seeing this footage in much better shape than poor transfer on the EL West End DVD. There's also a few scenes here that weren't on that DVD as well.

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

That was originally a VHS tape released around 1991 and was later re-issued on DVD. And you're right, the transfer quality was terrible.

[@erie910]

Swaying is a function of speed also.

[@millcreekrails]

Great video as always!

[@cbalducc]

I’ve seen some of this footage on another KZbin site. It mentioned that the video at Rochester, Indiana was filmed shortly after one of the tornadoes in the 1974 “Super Outbreak” passed through town and the damage could be seen.

[@spaceghost8995]

I just biked down a short segment of this EL line! North Judson, IN to Ora, IN. It will be extended east to Rochester and link to Nickel Plate Trail and west to Lacrosse to link to Pennsy Panhandle Trail. It will be part of the transcontinental Great American Rail Trail route. ❤

[@JosephMusgrove]

Seeing the violent swaying is a reminder of how bad eastern railroads had deteriorated in the 70s.

[@ericsimmons7716]

14:38 A near 15.8 miles west, the Erie again cross the Bradford at Kouts, Indiana.

[@spaceghost8995]

It crosses the PRR Panhandle line in Kouts I know. I've never heard of Bradford.

[@squirrelguy2195]

@@spaceghost8995 Bradford Line is just another name for the Panhandle due to Bradford, Ohio being a large yard/junction along the Panhandle main.

[@b3j8]

All those diamonds at Griffith! Probably drove the poor Maintainers about nuts!

[@albertcarello619]

I'm surprised this railroad was never retained and run by Conrail which is now NORFOLK & SOUTHERN and CSX.

[@b3j8]

West of Meadville PA, Conrail already had the former PRR Fort Wayne Div thru Ft. Wayne aa well as the former NYC further north, both of which had better signalling than the EL, esp the CTC-equipped NYC, and were maintained for higher speeds. The EL also had little on-line business. It would've made a great race track for Intermodal, but little else sadly.

[@albertcarello619]

@@b3j8 I think the former EL would still have been a great bridge route and it could have been upgraded by CSX or Norfolk & Southern. The L&N the former MONON didn't have a great deal of online industries either and had a relatively short distance line compared to the other RAILROADS.

[@b3j8]

@@albertcarello619 The Erie didn't even finish building the mainline until nearly the 20th century, long after the other railroads had taken the choice routings that allowed access to major cities, so it kinda always was a bridge route. Had it had managed to hang in there till the Staggers era who knows, there might have been enough interest to keep it.

[@stephenheath8465]

There was rumor back then that ATSF was going to merge with the E L

[@b3j8]

@@stephenheath8465 The thing about the EL is had it not been for the major damage Hurricane Agnes caused in the East, the railroad likely would never have been included in the Conrail pot. I'm not saying it wouldn't have still failed, but there would have been time to talk w/ the Santa Fe.

[@Thunder_6278]

I wish the locations were listed. I used to live in Hammond 30 years ago. Sad to know it's all gone.

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Did you look at the video description?

[@trainencounters586]

Thank you !!!!!!!

[@cbalducc]

The twin-level overpass at Disko was removed in the past few years and the road reopened.

[@tomt9543]

It would be real interesting to know how much of the trackage in this film is still in operation, and how much is gone forever. Those Milwaukee F’s looked awful!

[@tomt9543]

That is one strange track arrangement around the 13 minute mark! Is that the Judson, ? Place? And working semaphores!! Forgot that there was such a thing! And hooping up orders! What a walk down memory lane!! I can’t stop grinning!

[@squirrelguy2195]

Yes. That would be North Judson. The Erie mains had to separate a bit in order to fit the C&O/NYC diamond, which is why the westbound has that jog in it. The Pennsylvania crossed the Erie by the tower.

[@tomt9543]

@@squirrelguy2195 Is all this trackage still in place in 2024?

[@squirrelguy2195]

@@tomt9543 Unfortunetly no. The C&O remains, but ends just southeast of town, while about 2 miles of the Erie remains and ends just east of State Road 10. Both segments are a part of the Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum's trackage. The Erie was actually relaid between Main Street and the where it now ties in to the former C&O by the museum's shops.

[@spaceghost8995]

​@@squirrelguy2195 Yes! I just bicycled the Erie Trail from N. Judson to Ora yesterday. I think the line they cross in this video is the NYC Kankakee Belt which ran from South Bend and around into IL.

[@McCracken_9]

E8s pulling freight wow

[@1940limited]

Lots of former Erie and Lackawanna E8s bumped to freight service.

[@nucanoe1]

My hometown is Huntington, IN. My father and uncles were 3rd Gen Erie guys. Is there any footage from in and around Huntington?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

I should have some coming up soon.

[@MilePost106]

What’s so nice about the old days, everything was free of graffiti. I can remember the hobo signs we would see on boxcars written in chalk.

[@stephenheath8465]

Old Griffith is classic railroading at it best.That place is all CN now Sad

[@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye]

I have the Highland tower wooden “ND” sign seen starting at 24:26

[@furfman]

At 5:51 the very front of a 1976 starsky and hutch painted gran torino.

[@Bri-rb5lq]

Are these e units hauling frieght😮

[@AlcoLoco251]

Did the EL regear their E units so they could be used in freight service?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Apparently they did.

[@squirrelguy2195]

They did. The re-geared E8s I believe were good for 55 MPH and were largely based out of Marion, Ohio to be used on freight trains on the West End of the line, especially west of Marion.

[@douglasskaalrud6865]

This video reminded me of how E-L and Milwaukee had a pool arrangement that didn’t work out because the Milwaukee sent the E-L their garbage units. E-L dropped the pool.

[@gerardjewels5259]

The pool arrangement happened after the Milwaukee was 'Borrowing' ELs units outside Chicago 😂

[@cbalducc]

So the EL had more than one stretch of single track west of Huntington?

[@squirrelguy2195]

The Erie was largely single track between Aldine (just east of North Judson) and Bippus (west of Huntington). The only double track between the two points was between Akron and Laketon as the westbound and eastbound mains were grade separated. West and east of those points the Erie main was double track.

[@lynwoodme8558]

Aw, no state line tower. Great informative video!!

[@simonetaormina7080]

What is the location with all the diamonds crossings ?

[@squirrelguy2195]

Griffith, Indiana. Crossing of the EL, C&O, EJ&E, Grand Trunk, and New York Central.

[@spaceghost8995]

It may not be shown much but you should Google North Judson, IN also. They had four major railroads all crossing each other in the tiny town. (PRR,NYC,EL, and C&O!

[@spaceghost8995]

That iron truss bridge near Monterrey over the Tippecanoe River is still standing and in good shape. It's on the National Register of Historic Places. It will soon have the rail trail extended over it coming from North Judson. Eventually will be rail trail to Rochester also.

[@snagletoothscott3729]

Those poor E units, being subjected to manifest work.

[@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye]

Lol they were regeared

[@KeithStevens-wc4kl]

I know 10 people.That got killed by the Erie, like a one on rare road in Rochester.Indiana one guy got his head cut right off

[@KeithStevens-wc4kl]

I heard. A lot of the engineers on the eerie lack of wanna write a note did homosexual acts