FGC PISSED as Players forced to switch characters just got Disqualified | Players plead to Bandai

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[@bryanramnauth4390]

Sparking Zero is not an Esports game. Dont know why they insist on having official high stakes tournaments for this game.

[@666slateran666]

Because dbz stans aren't the smartest folk

[@arpadszabo661]

Because people got triggered by FGC pros saying that Sparking Zero is a fun, but not competitive game and they wanted to prove otherwise. This is the result.

[@tedjomuljono3052]

what was the prize pool? the tournament trailer didn't mention that iirc, can't say it's high stakes when it turns out the winner went home with, like, $2500

[@cRoW_Dman2002]

THANK YOU!!! I LOVE THE TENKAICHI SERIES BUT WE DO NOT NEED THIS AT EVO!!!!

[@theroyalpain]

@@666slateran666 Somehow, despite being stans, they ignored the news where fighter Z was made "against" Toriyama's ideas of balance, while this one was more aligned with that philosophy. And you get this naturally resulting.

[@LeMajesticJames]

This game wasn’t made in mind for Esports, its like Xenoverse, there is a reason why that game never got an official tournament in EVO

[@StreyX]

Let's be real, they were disqualified for making the game look bad/unfun. It's more on bandai than them. What they did was similar to the Injustice finals where it was mostly Superman doing coldbreath block strings for 9 minutes.

[@ItsSKthestupidrapper]

No one forced them to play that lame bs optimal or not

[@DiggThePump]

Or the vast majority of melee players stalling on the ledge

[@WalkBesideMe]

Good shout. Wasn't there an East Coast Throwdown for Injustice 2 where it was an all Deadshot final and just all zoning? It's basically like this.

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

This would be like if Smash tournies banned HBox or Marvel or Third Strike tournies banned Justin because they play lame lmao. Sorry they're playing the game you released. How horrible of them.

[@MatthewHerman-xx8bw]

Cheesy gameplay isn’t gameplay. Your on the spectrum strats are meant to drive humans insane, not be competitive. You’re not really better, you’re just good at being annoying. You’ll die alone, after your parents do.

[@azizkash286]

Funniest thing is that this event was a Bandai sponsored event. DQing your players because you don't know how to make a competitive fighting game is a bad look for your game lol

[@ensabahnur7657]

💯📠

[@YouAlreadyKnowBabi]

The game is absolute ass. There’s nothing to be surprised about haha

[@Shadowsunsi]

This goes to show you how far out of touch some companies are with their own games. Maybe they should have reviewed some high level online match footage first and then adjusted the rules accordingly.

[@hermanjohnson9180]

That couldn't be further from the reality of the situation. They got disqualified for not fighting each other. The tournament organizers really couldn't care less as far as their reasons as to why. It's pretty easy to figure out that they were both untouchable while they were doing the maneuver but that's not the issue. THEY WEREN'T FIGHTING. It's not about the fairness of the tactic!

[@hands-ongaming7180]

@@hermanjohnson9180that’s what timers are for???

[@magnuslehohn3371]

Naaaaaah banning them is mad corny. Tourneys are all about using the best tech and exploits to win. If it’s broken, ban the tactic or fix your game AFTER THE TOURNAMENT CONCLUDES. Telling them to change teams/characters mid match is insane. What’s waaaay worse and proves these TOs are clowns is they banned two players, but left another one alone because the same freaking thing was done offline. Now, the FGC knows arena fighters are not balanced around tourney play at all, especially with 100+ characters. Balance is simply impossible. Sparking ZERO neeeever , eeeeever should have had a tourney series off rip. Also: that treadmill looks gdlk. Need to get one of those.

[@LOGANXWORLD]

We all know why the 2 players got dq. It was nothing to do with cheating. That gameplay style made the game look bad. They want to sell this game and build the player base. things like this make the look bad with the casual watchers and deter them from picking up the game.

[@iBleed_RoyLty4368]

But, the game is only, and truly, interesting to people who are fans of either the Dragonball series or the Budokai Tenkaichi games. With a slew of these fans already saying it isn’t a fighting game, and people only buying it for fun times with friends and family, I’d say it’s still in a good spot. As long as they don’t keep bringing forth the idea that Sparking Zero is a fighting game. Because if they’re going to do that, Xenoverse is a better game for setting “rules for competition”, imo. SZ just doesn’t have that.

[@nikoprower32]

I agree. The players didn't exactly break any rules, but they played in a way that, according to Bandai Namco, made the game look bad. I think it was in the tournament rules not to play in a way that makes a mockery of the game or its devs.

[@ardidsonriente2223]

​@@nikoprower32yeah, it is forbidden to make anything that would question the creators of this machine that keeps tripping itself to the ground while loudly farting.

[@brettlewis2900]

Can tell you banning players is not the way to grow your comp player base. Instead own up to it and say we will fix this style asap and improve the game.. But not suprised by Bandai actions at all. They are lazy and will just blame players instead of fixing shit.. Shit devs and just exploiting an IP and nothing more.

[@nikoprower32]

@@brettlewis2900 that's true.

[@nikito_theone]

Thank you for the support and understanding why im confused and showing the public what is going on. God Bless. 🙏🏾

[@graescaleZ]

Bamco is over here trying to scare people into not exposing how broken Sparking Zero actually is. It was never meant to be an esports game. This is how you kill Sparking in the eyes of the public.

[@theshadiest7109]

ESports shouldn't even be a thing lol. Congratulations, number one button presser. Gaming is for children and relaxation, nothing more. The second you stop playing to have fun, you become a loser.

[@LeMajesticJames]

Wdym scared? Everyone knew this game would be unbalanced from the very beginning and it was never meant to be in EVO type tournaments

[@graescaleZ]

@LeMajesticJames what I mean is that they dq'ed two people that used the broken mechanics in the game. That sends a message to the competitive community... pretty simple.

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

@@theshadiest7109 the moment you say "gaming is for children" you lose any credibility in a gaming discussion. "The moment you stop playing chess for fun, you're a loser" well have you considered that winning in video games is fun?

[@ragingtyga]

@@theshadiest7109 "ESports shouldn't even be a thing" What are you, a boomer? I guess chess competition shouldn't exist, it's a game. I guess racing shouldn't be a thing, you just step on a gas pedal and turn a while. Anything that requires a skill set can and will be applied to competition. That said, a game can STILL be absolutely TERRIBLE for competition format which this game is, because it was not DESIGNED with that in mind.

[@agentsampson5623]

Telling players to not play optimal is like saying hey, you start dropping your combos or you're banned. Imagine telling justin wong to not timer scam in a top 8 or grand finals. Ridiculous.

[@SuntanXxSuperman]

Oh well. Stop running. Nobody wats to see that bullshit. If you run in ANY other fighting game people have a HUGE problem with it. But scince its "oPtImAL" on THIS particular game its ok? Man shutup

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

It's what happens when the kid on ScrubQuotes who unironically said "all you do is spam combos" gets to be the head TO.

[@steel5897]

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN it's literally if the scrub inmates ran the scrub asylum, crazy

[@DontSmokeBeer]

@agentsampson5623 that makes no sense man.. how does dashing a character up and down constantly because your character is able to do it infinite amount of times apparently to you, equals to justin wongs combo techniques or your opinion in general..? try again

[@rgb2219]

How is flying around for 10 minutes doing nothing qualify as optimal gameplay lmao

[@bigfootproph]

They literally did what the organizers told them to do and even asked if it was ok and still got banned...... stupid af esports organizers

[@naejimba]

Agree... so they change the rules ON THE FLY and you go with their poor decision and STILL get banned? Unbelievable. Innovation that breaks the game and the current meta is the highest honor as far as I'm concerned. Your reward is winning the tournament and then AFTER they can change the rules or patch the game. Anything else risks killing innovation and the spirit of competition.

[@KINGJiggyy]

Alright the semantics sure, but they obviously don't tell them "just play cheesy and do the chase game until the timer ran out" You lose point even in boxing matches when literally nothing is happening

[@xTheGokuLegendx]

@@KINGJiggyy That's not what semantics means & the person made a perfectly fair argument. Either establish a rule against it or fix the game. By your logic, FG players who play lame should be disqualified. Sorry, but if the game allows it, it should generally be fair game. Unless it's an extreme exception like Smash, blame the developers, not the players. The players aren't the ones who made the game the way it is.

[@KINGJiggyy]

@@xTheGokuLegendx elaborate on how that's not semantics if you don't mind

[@xTheGokuLegendx]

@@KINGJiggyy Sure. This isn't an argument over words, it's over the *content* of what is or isn't being said. It has nothing to do with the intricacies of words or phrases. They explicitly did not have a rule about playing like this.

[@mitchenigma1698]

Honestly Sparking Zero was never made to be played in high stakes tournaments lol.

[@NotTheWheel]

Why not? You can hold tournaments for whatever stakes you want. It doesn't matter for what that thing is - if people want to compete in it let them. Why do you get to decide?

[@shodragon94]

For this sparking problem… THIS IS EXACTLY WHY BANDAI WAS either posed to CONTINUE WITH FIGHTERZ BY GIVING US A NEW GAME OR ADDING SEASONS, OR ACTUALLY REALIZING THAT THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE JUMP FORCE PROPERLY JUST SIMILAR TO THE DBFZ gameplay by making a 2v2 games. But instead they went with the cash grab knowing everyone would want to play the nostalgic game we once owned as a kid knowing that there is no way to make a battle arena fighter with 140+ characters balanced or even naturally competitive.

[@thebrianjohn]

The TOs are clowns and clearly just making the rules up as they go.

[@alistairlacaille]

I hope that the next players up in that Sparking Zero grand final do the same thing. And the next ones, and the next ones, until they fix it.

[@EWOODJ]

Yeah right…

[@djandjb1]

They can’t fix it, it’s a 3D game built around free roaming. People need to fix their expectations for this style of game. It cannot be competitive by its very nature… Like someone dude, you can stand behind a building and fire beams at your enemy… This game doesn’t actually have a neutral, it’s just run up, punch/vanish, laser beam when they’re away, no thought at all.

[@johnysimps1191]

They can't really fix it. They aimed to make a mid cashgrab. Mission accomplished

[@Rio..o7..]

all they have to do is put it in writing in the rules for future events

[@meswil]

it wasn't built like that to beginning with if this wasn't dbz IP people would be more honest with themselves this ain't a fighting game, there's nothing to be fixed.

[@milksandwich8560]

There's something similar to this in MVC2 called the "dead body" glitch where you can juggle the dead body once you kill a character and another is supposed to be incoming. You can just juggle them keeping the next character from coming in and thus timing out your opponent if you have the life lead. Even tho this exploit is in the game, TO's will disqualify you if you do this in actual tournament.

[@Jude_Zilla]

From what I remember, you can only juggle players until they’re in the corner. Anything after that is considered an exploit

[@Rio..o7..]

yea "its in the game" has been a dead argument for a while

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

That's because that's an actual game-breaking bug. This is more akin to banning Justin because he turtled too much.

[@ardidsonriente2223]

Also the tournament rules for the "dead body" exploit were clearly set BEFORE the matches were played. That is perfectly valid and a gigantic difference from this crap maneuver from the TOs and Bamco.

[@naejimba]

@@ardidsonriente2223 , ^This. This person gets it. The rules are set BEFORE the tournament. You can't change things on the fly because it doesn't look good or hurts your precious feelings. The cost of doing otherwise is destroying innovation which is one of the best things about the FGC. The competition is sacred and without that we have nothing.

[@SquidwardProfilePic]

Imagine getting banned for effectively just playing competitive Mario party

[@Edge-op9xi]

Lmao Arena fighters will never be taken seriously all this asshurt because people are simply using the games buggy mechanics to stall is absurd either ban the androids or continue having people abuse a party games mechanics. Dont expect namco to care because the game is simply a cashgrab arena fightet.

[@DANCERcow]

Why is Tekken and Soul Calibur taken seriously then? They are both arena fighting games!

[@prinyaz]

​@@DANCERcowfighting in arena =/= arena fighter

[@iBleed_RoyLty4368]

@@DANCERcow Tekken and Soul Calibur are NOT arena fighters. They’re 3D fighters, like Dead or Alive and Virtua Fighter, where you can move in 8 directions in foreground and background, and balancing is often implemented through patches. Arena fighters are like the Ultimate Ninja Storm series or Demon Slayer, where you move freely and balancing isn’t really a thing. Know the difference.

[@hotzauhse]

3d fighters and arena fighters are not the same thing my friend​@@DANCERcow

[@kinabalucat]

​@@DANCERcowno they don't. Just don't kid yourself

[@MisterTwit]

So either the ruling in France or the ruling in Japan is wrong, since they can't both be right. Can't wait to hear which. I haven't played Sparking yet but infinite anything in a competitive game just sounds like bullshit to me. It's almost as if the game was designed NOT to be competitive. God, imagine that

[@DocDarkAngelo]

I think the "no lame play rules" apply, so France are on the right. Something sound strange on a pro level competition but make sence if you remember that official tournament are a also way to market the game. And oh boy seeing 2 clown flying for 2 minutes up and down on a grand final does not look good for Bandai Namco. Oh yeah, Bandai are on the wrong for multiple reason and should not act like that obviously.I think i'm not clear when a I re-read myself, so DQ is not deserve but expected.

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[@crystalwaltz]

They did my boy Nikito horribly! I was there from start to finish. He deserves answers after that fiasco.

[@mindfart6607]

"But running the clock is optimal brooo"🙄... I'm with them in principle that it's wrong to DQ someone who didn't break the rules. But God if that's optimal then throw out the whole game like cmon.

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

No? Playing lame and turtling out the timer is how some of the best players in the world got their accolades. Justin Wong used to get literally booed off stage for it.

[@iBleed_RoyLty4368]

While not optimal, it is an option. I don’t like it. But, someone has to win. And when money is on the line, you know someone’s going to do it.

[@mindfart6607]

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN I hear ya, I just doubt it was lame as what was in this recent sparking zero tournament.

[@mindfart6607]

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN good point though. I like Justin though so I didn't need that example 🥲

[@xTheGokuLegendx]

You're right, throw out the game if this is optimal play. Even from a casual standpoint it's fucking boring to watch people play that way. Idk why people aren't just telling Bandai to fix the game instead of penalizing players or making excuses for bad mechanics.

[@buddhabird9809]

Bandai wrong om this one. Capcom saw tokido corner lock someone by jabbing with a cancel buffer behind it ad they patched the game they didn’t ban tokido. It's the games fault not the players. Hell, even without a patch they could have just introduced new tournament rules after the fact. Again banning them for not following instructions That were created after the fact is wrong af.

[@someaccount5200]

They also patched out the Dan infinite in a very interesting way as well in SFV

[@studivan]

That’s the answer, patch the damn game, stop sponsoring tournaments until you patch it, and allow both players to play, they didn’t make the mechanic, Bandai did, however they players get no brownie points because they shouldn’t be penalized have known how this was going to play out.

[@GarredHATES]

The first mistake was thinking an arena fighter like Sparkling Zero should be played in tournament

[@Violent_Wolfen]

That's not the first mistake it was THE MISTAKE!

[@willthelemon5681]

I get the whole "erm its in the game lmao" but lets be deadass with each other. You KNOW what you are doing, I know what you're doing and so does everyone else.

[@vulcanh254]

This is the equivalent of telling Justin Wong to stop playing lame, or telling Daigo to stop spamming Hadoken with Ryu because the viewers don't like it.

[@locopatman8736]

That's not at all comparable. In SF you can punish that with footsies, in DBSZ you can't punish them, and they can run the timer out. Bad comparison man

[@vulcanh254]

@locopatman8736 The reaction is comparable. These scrubs are complaining because of "optimal" gameplay so they would complain about footsies, turtling and zoning too. They cannot be taken seriously. I also don't care how bad the game is, that's Bandai's job to make it less broken. If they don't want androids to abuse this ability, remove the ability or ban the character like they banned Old Sagat in super turbo. If you don't ban the character then everything is allowed, yes even glitches and option-selects.

[@hands-ongaming7180]

@@locopatman8736this ain’t sf not every fgc revolves around footsies

[@yendayo]

I was curious so I dig a bit. The players were trying to send a message.

[@realtec4632]

Dear ButtonCheck, Love your vids, and I play Sparking! comp, the players mentioned are exploiting the game and yes its part of its current state, the previous games did not have this issue, but these TO's never made rules to fix the issues the game currently has, its a mix of TO's making tourneys way too early knowing full well this game is unfininished. and the games being exploited, okaying passively is fine and was a thing in all games, but S!Z is a buggy terrible mess. they have issues that stem from being rushed for the sake of coming out with daima... P.S look at JP qualifiers, TO's are hypocrite.

[@johnysimps1191]

It's the game's fault for having those mechanics. It's not an exploit. You can combo with ki blasts from behind with most of the cast. Not an exploit. The game just has bad mechanics and is not fun to play. Don't blame the player for playing it. At least that's how we do it in the FGC. Not sure SZ is invited to the FGC cookout 😂

[@realtec4632]

@@johnysimps1191 thats not the issue, your talking about a basic thing that can be countered. unless you mean the infinite ki bug which IS a bug as seen in the code by modders, some characters are missing the cooldown like kef, and Broly, the mechanics in this game for the most part are good the game is unfinished such as Perception/S perception having terrible recovery making it spammable or Revenge Counter being the most useless defense in the game.. again, these issues were not prevalent in previous FINISHED titles... I don't even have to prove it either a simple google search can help if you looked up Grand Master Hawk or anything. TLDR, these arent mechanics and the Android issue is the biggest oversight ever, there is a reason Ryo Mito-sama never let that happen in the original games.

[@realtec4632]

@@johnysimps1191 The mechanics in this game are fine, *this* game is the issue, the previous titles never had these issues and im mainly focusing on the android chi not depleting on Dragon dash/asc/desc. this was added in this title as a mistake, its gonna get removed anyway soon. These guys are indeed abusing it. but you can see the TO's are at fault the most for not researching the issues to their own game, then taking action over non existing rules, I dont know what you are going on about when it comes to the ki combo thing, that is easily counterable.. the only ki bullet issue is a bug in the game where somecharacters don't have their cooldowns set up in sparking! mode, Kef, and Broly are the biggest examples here, again these were NEVER issues in Sparking! Meteor, the game was balanced mechanically, this game is unfinished and rushed... thats it.

[@marioster2]

Honestly anyone who plays that broken game deserves whatever they play against. It’s an arena fight with the sole purpose of being unbalanced

[@firestriker6846]

This is why I don't understand why Bandai is constantly trying to host tournaments for this broken game

[@Grevier]

7:41 This is *NOT* the FGC Ernersto. I said it once I'll say it again: the real enemy of this game is the casuals, since SZ is *NOT* a Fighting Game we now have people outside the FGC opening their mouths when they have no clue how the FGCompetitive scene works. They never saw a Dhalsim or Cetrion's zooning so they don't understand the reasoning behind these players abusing infinite ki to zone and win by timeout with health advantage. Remove Sparking Zero from the competitive scene and let these casuals enjoy and flame whatever they feel like.

[@Yin_Strider]

Facts. This wasn't even a thought during Xenoverse or any other Arena Fighter...but Sparking Zero is now an issue? Get the scrubs out our scene with this trash ass game.

[@espurrseyes42]

What do you do in the game? Fighting. It's a Fighting game. It's just not a traditional fighting game. It's not that complicated.

[@Yin_Strider]

@@espurrseyes42 says Mr. Casual 2024. It's not a game that should be having serious competition. It's just meant to be played for fun. Your logic is laughable. Stick to Pokemon buddy.

[@espurrseyes42]

@@Yin_Strider Being for fun doesn't change what you do in it. Fight. Learn what words mean and what genres are defined by, brainlet.

[@shamfyre]

​@Yin_Strider didn't the Naruto arena fighters have a competitive scene? If those do then idk why this game couldn't.

[@Yeet-ing]

That Bison skin better come with the audio.

[@mrcuddles2199]

The onus is on game designers and T.O.s. Stalling is a strategy as old as time but for entertainment purposes professional sports have rules to control this. Tekken fixed this when they did away with infinite maps and nerfed back dashes(haha step).

[@WalkBesideMe]

Yeah, this is quite literally the definition of "don't hate the player, hate the game"

[@joshmcginn7546]

The tweet in the last video on the dragonball tournament put it perfectly, all these responses make it really obvious who is actually coming from the fighting game community and who has no experience with it at all. EVERYONE should agree it is a BAD precedent to be banning players for things that arent even in the rules

[@johnysimps1191]

Casuals when they get combo'd 😂😂😂 I saw a yt short with the caption "Finally cooking your homie who beats you in dragonball fighterz when sparking zero comes out" as the game was dropping. I wrote a comment saying if they get cooked in fighterz then ain't no way they stand a chance in sz coz people who play fighterz will go to the lab and optimize the shit out of their gameplay. Here we are complaining that people are doing combos in a fighting game. Just bizzare

[@LeDanc]

Sparking zero CAN be competitive, BUT, not now at this moment, they need to make sure everything is responsive and not something that may or may not work (the counters and tp) and also have something like xenoverse has a vigor for flying faster aka superdash

[@sqpenn]

Imagine being banned for playing to win

[@espurrseyes42]

It's not exactly playing to win when you're at match start, full health, flying around like a lunatic. That's playing to screw around. Just like those Bayonetta players in Smash 4.

[@sqpenn]

@ if you win by getting hit less, flying and waiting for an opening is the perfect strategy The bayos just sat there fully exposed with a “gentlemans” agreement

[@espurrseyes42]

@@sqpenn Where is the "waiting for an opening" when you start running away the instant the match starts when no life has been taken? Just because something is happening doesn't make it any better than the "gent's" agreement.

[@sqpenn]

@ well since its a movement ability that uses your resource its a balance of staying unhittable with the movement and not leaving yourself open with no resource. Which is how shiryu won the LA trip or smth, great defense when he got caught and good enough punishes when his opponet ran out of bar. No ones saying its the hardest thing in the world but there is enough interplay for it to result in a winner and a loser - so if they both commit to the same strategy because its the most consistent and easiest to execute you cant hold it against them when money’s on the line, and the whole point is TO WIN, dont hate the players

[@espurrseyes42]

@@sqpenn "since its a movement ability that uses your resource" Not if you're 19 or 20 who DON'T CONSUME KI WHEN DOING IT. So they can do that FOREVER with no real way for you to hit them. Tell me you don't know what the controversy is about without telling me you don't know what the controversy is about. There IS no counterplay to this. "and the whole point is TO WIN" How is IMMEDIATELY going into this untouchable strat at the start of the match before any damage has been dealt, continuing to do it throughout the match, and switch to the other character that can do it for no real reason when the previous can't be touched since, ya know, they can do the strat "playing to win".

[@imeaniguess.6963]

Calling is an exploit is a pc move. It’s in the game exactly how they designed it, either ban it from the beginning or don’t.

[@Robeebert]

There's a point where"playing passively" turns into "not playing"

[@ludoletono]

Ayo that Bison event music is lit!

[@XxxSPIKEx]

This is why I don't consider sparking zero (and tenkaichi styled games), to be a fighting game.

[@lile4life713]

Wow they taking this to far , you disqualified them that’s crazy , telling them to change their team , they making up rules while they go, sparking zero is not trash

[@willh7352]

Nah, its trash. lol

[@trevor384]

@@willh7352might have meant “hot trash”

[@Josie.770]

​@willh7352 I think it was meant to be said in a sarcastic tone. "Here's all these issues the game is totally not trash, right?"

[@666slateran666]

@@lile4life713 nice cope

[@Dark_Necromancer]

Sparking Zero aint a real fighting game And this Shit right here Highlighted that Fact.Shit is Over.Get this Shit outta Here!!!!! hawk TWAH!

[@da_001]

Bandai namco being an unorganized mess of a company. Nothing new.

[@000wolf]

Playing keep away and running out the clock have been viable and non-infringing tactics in most fighting games that give the players the tools/options to do so. The onus of action is upon the TOs and Bandai Namco to address this tactic if they, or the community, find it to be such a problem. This should have been addressed before the tournament and not in the middle of the GFs. I'm not sure how French law operates, but if there truly was no ruleset in place to counter the play-style, then I could see potential legal action being an option for the players, especially if there was monetary loss involved.

[@KusogeMan]

this is no different than ghostfaceban cause he has 100% combos but nobody actually wins tournaments with the characters

[@bowserjr476]

16:45 finger jumpscare 💀

[@OgSleep]

Why are people trying to turn sparking into a pro game to begin with?

[@startsumtin]

7:16 it's like you're back playing tekken 7 and both players spam the hell out of Steve Fox's evade the entire match without throwing a single punch. It's weak. Even better it's like going to a live match and both fighters just duck and dodge each other all match. There has to be some type of engagement for it to be considered a contest.

[@noBody-ue6cs]

Put your treadmil on the wall and walk vertically. Practice your chakra control

[@Underratedgamerkid]

8:37 what in the HELL type of strategy is flying up and down!!!!

[@Underratedgamerkid]

The problem with this is the mechanics themselves. This game was never meant to be competitive.

[@zod4365]

Sparking Zero, to me, isn't a pro-fighting game. According to Bandai/Namco it was never meant to be, so why are people, T.O's, entertaining this foolishness? (zero balancing due to manga power levels)

[@arpadszabo661]

To be fair, the devs, Spike Chunsoft said that this game is not being made with a competitive aspect in mind and Bandai most likely forced the official tournaments due to popularity. Typical out of touch Bandai stuff

[@tedjomuljono3052]

this is Bamco's idea, the tournament was made by them, promoted by them, and is hosted on their channel so the most foolish one is Bamco

[@DANCERcow]

Same thing with Smash bros, Sakurai and co have stated multiple times that Smash Bros was never meant to be a fighting game but here we are, sparking zero has fighting in it with combos and supers and meter so it is a fighting game just as Smash Bros is under these same rules lol

[@zod4365]

@@arpadszabo661 I can see the "Bandai push"

[@zod4365]

@@tedjomuljono3052 agreed

[@huevonesunltd]

Such an anti FGC move from the tournanent organizers in a game that people insists it's a fighting game. This shit doesnt happen with a regular fighting game for a reason

[@waterdog737]

Bandai Namco, fix your game.

[@supakaioshin]

Theres nothing wrong with it

[@waterdog737]

@supakaioshin OK, sure supak

[@SubaruWRX500]

Ernesto please cover the fact that maximilian and jwong both said the arturo word on their respective footages, yet people still praise them

[@mathchewtv8389]

Merch suggestion: 1. I don’t know what it is I know it’s to get better. 2. Buttons needed to be checked

[@barryschalkwijk9388]

Now that i've seen the footage...They were definitely trolling. But then again it's like having people playing competitive Mario Party.

[@Rennikz]

i know how that guy felt, imagine being in a wired online tournament and the person i was playing against is wired to a wifi extender and think he's wired... i complained and they brush me off like it was nothing, forced me to continued until i got elminated. my advice is don't take it seriously, find something no matter how small it is and just laugh, it aint perfect but its better than being in rage at these ppl who just dont give a shit about you.

[@nikoprower32]

If you want this game to be competitive, here's what I would assume needs to happen: 1) some new rules implemented into the tournament. 2) Special rules in lobbies (ie. Character/stage bans, items not allowed, etc) similar to Smash Bros. 3) better communication from the TOs to the participants. And not exactly in that order.

[@B_Ahmed1234]

This is why basketball has a shot clock, so teams have to play offense eventually when they have the ball. If players can just dash around and avoid fighting, then fix the mechanics so they get punished for stalling

[@Darksaige]

Off topic here, ad placement is sinister lol rolling into each topic there was a skippable ad but it was like cliff hanger set up.

[@theamazingrobin927]

I might get one of those treadmills for my wife’s office. She’s been asking for a walking treadmill

[@TonyTheTGR]

Sparking Zero: WHAT IS HAPPENING One player cheezing another player to win is "fair." Two players cheezing each other infinitely to disruption is a DQ, even though said players are basically doing the same thing. Reminds me of Evo Brawl. You remember Evo Brawl? Neither do I.

[@GarethXL]

FGC : stop calling SZ a fighting game, just call it an arena fighter and just enjoy the game as is butt hurt SZ players : theres 2 people fighting, it's a fighting game also butt hurt SZ players : 😫😫wahhhh..... baddie chose meta character and strat preventing me from winning, i'm attacking more i should win not the lame ass meta player🤡🤡 FGC response : you want to win? then pick the top tier 😎

[@kinabalucat]

Already seen this happening arena fighters like db sparkling zero is not tournament viable. Unless you make it like one piece: fighting path. But that game still have no global release date

[@HolidayHaze]

I love Rooflemonger’s take.

[@kayanims]

This might be the thing that kills Sparking zero

[@krazykuz13cmc]

THE ORGANIZERS DEFINITELY VOTED FOR KAMALA

[@Adobiibo]

Sparking zero really shouldn’t be considered a competitive game

[@daddyikie966]

Nrs/wb did the same thing in mk11 when tiger used Sheeva

[@Tony-r3e6g]

Its like two players picking the same characters that have a teleport move. The two players decide to just spam the teleport move over and over with the intent not to engage each other. It would be amusing for like until first round but after that it will get annoying fast.

[@han3wmanwukong125]

If you're playing a fighting game where top tier characters are top tier because their teleport is OP then that's a design flaw in the game.

[@pocketvices]

Wether it's intended or an oversight, if you choosin to play then u gotta hold that, cheese and all. You cannot be serious "he cheesed me out and taunted on me. Against terms of service"

[@GarethXL]

if that was the case daigo, tokido, or the lamest player ever justin wong would never have a career

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

"You're not allowed to annoy/bore me" is not a rule that should be in any competitive enviroment.

[@Th0tpocket505]

Ketchup like if it was NRS it would be a character specifically made for that lol

[@Liddo.]

How come they didnt do this in the matches before the grand finales?

[@VDViktor]

Gosh FGC is just a bunch of regards

[@yujilee112]

just make a rules that if they're not try to engage , both disqualified.

[@JusRed48]

I hope players really understand how silly this is. The reason the players did this is because of the GAME MECHANICS and the fact that it actually has gameplay benefits. This would be like banning players after getting a Guile or Dhalsim mirror in grand finals while they're top tier in a game. This is very much a "Don't hate the player, hate the game" situation. The players who got banned did not deserve to be banned for this lol. At the very least, whatever the actual violation is needs to be clarified.

[@bruce_leon1044]

They got banned, I'm pretty sure those guys understand perfectly how silly this is.

[@davidleewilderjr.6848]

Wassup Nesto... It's crazy for them to be DQ'd... If that's so players should get DQ'd for using non stop command grabs in SF6 in Tournament Matches!!!!

[@someaccount5200]

If people get dq'd for this then people should be dq'd for doing throw loops

[@SonsOfSparta562]

You the real MVP my guy.Keep up the good work

[@ColdPika]

So what if hypothetically we get a modern jp in grand finals that just spams projectiles? Would he be banned?

[@blackcephie1800]

So I guess my question is what exactly is the advantage of the up and down thing the players were doing? What's the advantage of that strategy? How does it work?

[@gregam1128]

By flying up and down the opponent can't catch you, by the time the opponents dash catches up, you are already moving the other way. This allows the android player to approach on their own terms. They can wait out an opponent's instant spark, hit and run, etc. Android 19 and Dr Gero don't use Ki to fly up and down, so they can do so forever. There currently isn't a way to counter this, so it is the best strategy in the game atm.

[@zosazsatara5889]

Trolling in fighting games is one of the stupidest things anyone can do, I wouldn't blame someone who ragequits against that.

[@ATerriblePlayer]

I cannot wait until the next time someone tries to tell me that Sparking Zero is a competitive game

[@Gleapgoogleplusisgone]

We need bogus journeys back!

[@silvrshado7]

"You don't know what happened in France" is some real clown shit. I felt disrespected by that one myself. It was funny af tho 😂

[@chrispham6599]

I'm slowly beginning to believe that Esports is becoming a bit of a joke now.

[@brettlewis2900]

The admin that put out the ban statment in france is the same admin that said in japan no rules were broken so play on.. Like how does anyone back these clowns with that type of behavior?

[@pkphantom]

This toutnament shouldn't even be a thing, but since it is, they have no right to DQ them for playing the game. I hope they get dragged through the mud until they apologize

[@NUTGORE]

Sparking zero is not a fighting game.

[@Mac-MDC]

If this game was balanced.......it wouldnt even be lore accurate.

[@ToastyMileage]

Mfs thought we was enjoying what we was looking at

[@VanFactor]

Lol glad they explained the exploit they used. I thought they were just playing keep away to nullify the heal mechanic because the androids heal off grabs. Pretty piss poor management on rulings though, they might be new to tournament organizing.

[@Panicjac]

Nesto with the good good sponsors

[@steel5897]

Pure clownery, this game.

[@alexandermccalla5098]

Is the infinite energy thing for all of the androids in this game or just 19 and 20? I always see it done with 19 and 20

[@Squall0014]

This is messed up on Bandai.

[@Ichithix]

Using some vague ass code of conduct to disqualify players is fucked up.

[@ragingtyga]

I said this in the previous Button Check post, and I'll say it again. Let the Sparking Zero BS happen. Don't ban anybody. Because when the audience and sponsors stop supporting it, because of how dumb the "competitive" play looks, the SZ community will have no one to blame but themselves. They spent the past year yelling with their full chest about how much of a "legit" fighter this game is, and now they'll look stupid. Some people gotta learn the hard way, let em learn that lesson

[@blckmarvl5652]

uh no this isnt the first game thats had to be played like that and generally one of the reasons why they dont let shit games like that in or why a ton of games stopped being played competitively. MvC2 Storm used to do that. 3S Chun mirrors STILL do that. Besides one day players will figure out they can take you to court over this.

[@DonteWilsonChrisDorner]

If I was one of the people that got bumped up in their place I'd do the exact same thing. I hate Bandai so much.

[@1994silent]

Then we should Ban Roll Cancel from Capcom vs Snk, If it's not officialy ban the strategy can be used. It's a tournament everyone wants to win.