Stephen Jackson: I would take Kobe Bryant over LeBron James | UNDISPUTED

Stephen Jackson weighs in on the Michael Jordan/Lebron James debate. But where does Kobe Bryant come into the conversation? He explains to Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe.
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[@TheFacilityonFS1]

Where does Kobe rank on the list of all-time great NBA players?

[@0023-j1l]

UNDISPUTED ON FS1 top 10!

[@jordancummings4639]

Top 20, borderline top 15

[@thekiddsean33026]

UNDISPUTED ON FS1 top 5 second best player ever kobe Bryant

[@BruvahSulaiman]

UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Top 4 No Order Kareem, Kobe, LeBron and MJ.

[@Gemini050788]

#1

[@timmyswaim208]

Finally someone puts respect on kobes name it's like since he retired no one cares for him

[@timmyswaim208]

im saying from the casters point of view. kobe was in the conversation of being better than mj and as good or even competing with him. now its casters not even saying his name anymore.

[@Zackfilms-jr6cc]

Timmy Swaim I remember when they were saying he was the best player in the world.

[@user-qx5mt6db7d]

Timmy Swaim He's always mentioned if you actually dig deeper. LOL

[@shaheedrahman2727]

also, since he retired everybody is the GOAT! lol..

[@royalmcmorris1211]

nah kobe legacy lives on

[@cubzrulz]

Analysts choose lebron. Players choose Kobe. I'll roll with the players.

[@roderickkearns3647]

Exactly, numbers vs experiences. 🤦

[@alejandromarmolejo13]

Roderick Kearns why do you use the “🤦‍♂️” like its a bad thing to choose LeBron over Kobe. Everybody has different opinions. If a basketball player has been in a game with Kobe and James, and thinks Kobe is better, it’s okay, he was there to witness them. But we as viewers, or analysts, or fanatics, we have the right to choose whoever we want because we are witnessing both too. On a TV or in a phone not in a basketball court, but that doesn’t mean we can differ with people who know them personally, there is no right answers. You don’t have to be a hen to talk about eggs.

[@roderickkearns3647]

@@alejandromarmolejo13 there's a huge difference in watching and actually doing.

[@alejandromarmolejo13]

Roderick Kearns but im talking about opinions. Its not like Kobe is 10 times better than LeBron. And also, people tend to rely on former players opinions and dismiss sport analysts, but only for their conveniences or when they share the same opinion as yours. Why does a lot of people hate on Paul Pierce? Because his takes are way different than others, and people jump quick to hate on him (because he really looks stupid some times)... oh but he used to play basketball, isn’t he supposed to know everything? Y’all just roll with the guys who share thoughts with you, don’t come at me saying that “doing” is better than “watching”.

[@saiyerugara9038]

@@roderickkearns3647 I'm going with the analysts on that one.

[@howarddavid31]

It’s funny how all these commentators pick LeBron as better than Kobe but the actual guys who play the game and have played against both picks Kobe.

[@theanswerpp3702]

David Howard Because they mostly look at one on one skills.

[@trueytone2021]

TheAnswerPP no it’s becuz they know kobe is a beast..kobe was on another level bro

[@DonkeyKong5479]

TheSaltMaker LeBum is not on MJ’s level lmfao as you can see most players don’t even put him above Kobe

[@SimplyCrossFire]

@TheSaltMaker lebum aint in no damn 🐐 convo get out of here its mj or kobe lebron is a bum and will be forgotten while lengends still talk about kobe poimt proven no one wants to play with lebron i wonder why 😂😂😂😂

[@robertgomez8909]

@JOHNSON DAILY lmao Kobe has never faced a team in finals like okc,warriors or spurs.also hes never dropped 51 against all star team/super team warriors or back to back 40 point games in finals.or blocks or passing assist or IQ or bron

[@tikhang1808]

Kobe didn't jumped ship to win Championship... Kobe was a straight up killa...

[@sticktothescript8299]

Kobe wanted to be traded and they wanted Chris Paul!#Facts

[@sidhushashi]

He didn’t have to

[@Ichifate]

@@sticktothescript8299 he never left tho so whats your point

[@somalipirate3291]

So because Kobe had better GMs he's better what would've LeBron do in Cleveland

[@joejenkins1827]

Kobe asked for trade to bulls the Laker just didn't trade him Bron played in Cleveland n please go look at the roster gasol n bynum better the any big the Bron played with outside of AD that include bosh n love cuz least bynum n gasol could protest the rim........one was coached by Phil when Kobe got Mike brown he got him fired let's keep all that in context....

[@vibeslivechicago6003]

Well at least we know now for sure that Stacks truly is a real one. He was on Kobe's bandwagon long before his passing. Rest in peace Mamba!

[@jkappakj4652]

Stephen Miller how do that make him real?

[@christophermunoz3679]

U can’t call him a bandwagon when Kobe doesn’t even get the respect he deserves

[@youareonindigenousland]

I think anyone that has kob over bron had that belief looooong before he passed. Only ones who wudda hopped on this so called bandwagon after he passed are kids who only saw bron play n his prime.

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

@@jkappakj4652 He's a real one because he's a stand up man, putting basketball aside!

[@4evagoodd]

Same here, kobe was always my favorite player of all time💯 way b4 his death

[@ANTHONY46015]

Kobe Bryant straight KILLA

[@albertstine2258]

tony bray Yeah killed the Lakers at end of Career

[@antar5500]

He sure is...

[@o0oStillWeRiseo0o]

tony bray 24th like is me! damn straight...Kobe Mafia

[@liamdunphy7496]

Worst FG averege in history.

[@alisalihue5220]

+Liam Dunphy Kobe was guarded a lot more than LeBron. Defense back then was much more physical.

[@BasketballPlease]

Kobe is the closest thing we have ever seen to MJ and it's not even close.

[@kingghxstgaming]

Sam LeBron better than both of them so I see what you mean.

[@chalkyblack7582]

Sam 👎👎

[@zephag7904]

playstyle not greatness huge gap btween them to

[@otf4464]

LMFAO

[@evolution71]

Sam no you idiot, if you talk about offensive style of game then yes, but overall, team and individual accomplishments, it's not even close you fool, Kobe is barely a top 10.

[@stevekaufmann8109]

Lol kobe beat the celtics big 4 with just pau gasol.

[@elleondejuda4681]

Grampa Kobe swept LeBron in the east vs west game. Grampa Kobe !

[@bowskee]

I think you forgot about Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher, Metta World-Peace, Shannon Brown, Trevor Ariza

[@Cleveland-fp8kh]

parallel wick right lol Kobe is my favorite player but don’t disrespect Lebron

[@sirpebbles6177]

He had a great team. You can’t get away with shooting 6-24 in a game 7 if your team “only had pau”.

[@CopreJack2]

Lion Y cordero LeBron is 16-5 against Kobe lol

[@jeffhardy6333]

I like how ordinary people are trying to argue with an actual NBA player lol

[@albertstine2258]

Marlon Ndoro I like how you act like it isn't a Debate show and act like this NBA Player create the NBA Shannon Sharpe Hall Of Famer 2 Time Superbowl champ and gettin paid millions by undisputed Your ordinary but Sharpe isn't and he laid facts to Stephen Jackson

[@bunsaynon2743]

Marlon Ndoro Michael Jordan thought Kwame Brown had next up. Being a good basketball player and a good judge of talent have nothing to do with each other

[@triggermanloyal2840]

BruhItsBunsAlright Lebron James thought Sebastian Tielfer was gonna be a great player. Look where that turned out

[@I_be_e]

I always say the same thing. WalMart workers, Short order cooks and bus drivers arguing with pro players that played in the NBA versus these greats. It's utterly ridiculous

[@triggermanloyal2840]

Emile Mency not to mention high schoolers, middle schoolers and kids who do absolutely nothin but play games all day while their parents provide for em. Leave the conversation to the big boys who actually know what their talking about kids 07

[@thecommentreferee646]

People really need to put more respect on Kobe's defense

[@paradigmshift7541]

Why? It's not like Old Kobe Bryant was good at locking down Prime Lejon Brames... kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqeYqJ2riNSobZY

[@thecommentreferee646]

you do realize you just helped my point?

[@angelcanez4426]

He's made the first-team all defense more than anyone.

[@saj1484]

@TheBestMusicOnly nah bro 9 times. 12 times for total defensive teams.

[@erickcruzm.24]

@@saj1484 correct. 9 First team selections. Lebron James 6.

[@lamontcuffee16]

I keep telling everybody... LeBron will never be better than Kobe! 💯💯

[@lamontcuffee16]

***** LeBron forming super teams...Kobe never played with 2 superstars!

[@lamontcuffee16]

***** they didnt win it do it dont matter...Kobe took a average team to the finals 3 times in a row and won two rings! That team was probably the weakest championship team of them all

[@brendonsanders4522]

Kobe is worlds ahead of Lebitch

[@lamontcuffee16]

*****​ you meant Phil had Kobe? Y'all giving Phil too much credit when he had Jordan, Kobe and Shaq! Pop is the best coach ever! Duncan wasn't better than Kobe?...stop reaching 😂😂😂

[@cedricworthy4241]

If LeBron plays with stars all around and still avenging 27 points a game like 7 assist 6 rebounds and still averaging crazy numbers he better than kind and MJ MJ and Kobe average that much because they the best on there team

[@bettysumner6749]

Kobe Bryant is one of the greatest player I have ever seen

[@Ronnie-mx1wu]

it's crazy how so many ex players say Kobe over LeBron, almost as if they know something 😎

[@MrGenexxx]

they know the truth

[@ricardosantinoespina1290]

Big Ro it's usually players who didn't really win

[@connorsmith6517]

Big Ro lmfao, can't believe people really think Kobe is better then Lebron like imagine how stupid you have to be.

[@percussionjamz6704]

Connor Smith pretty stupid to believe lebron is better to me.

[@commanderpinnacles]

Connor Smith It's about the mentally of a person, Lebron lifts the team,Kobe is for himself No one has the individual skills like Kobe that's why he'd destroy almost anyone 1v1

[@Lakergirl86]

I just don't understand, when people prefer Kobe over LeBron people get upset and bring up Shaq & Phil Jackson as if Kobe had nothing to do with Shaq & Phil getting their rings. When people compare LeBron to Kobe it's always about stats. But Kareem numbers are more impressive than MJ & LeBron but somehow no one takes Kareem? Interesting.

[@acegraham95]

I checked and Kareem's overall career average stats and Lebron's are actually a bit better than Kareems (Like 27.6 > 24.6 PER), especially in the Playoffs. Therefore I doubt his *overall numbers* are more impressive than MJ's too.

[@Lakergirl86]

BiosGod Creator I said Kareem numbers were more impressive, which his overall career numbers are. A few points more does not justify LeBron. My point was there are NBA players who overall body of work is better than LeBron in "numbers" but no one takes them. However when people prefer Kobe over LeBron somehow LeBron numbers are always brought up. But they never do it to other players.

[@acegraham95]

You said *"When people compare LeBron to Kobe it's always about stats"* and then *"Kareem numbers are more impressive"*. But then when I brought up the same stats that *"people"* use that support Lebron > Kobe, you bring up "overall body of work", which is not what people use and shouldn't since LBJ's career isn't over. So it's kind of an off comparison. And it's not just the "few points" that makes him the better player.

[@Lakergirl86]

BiosGod Creator I understand your side. However, I stick by my original statement. Your right, LeBron career is not over, which means his career stats can increase or even decrease. His stats maybe better than Kobe, but Kobe is still a better player. If majority of the NBA community is saying this which includes the likes of Larry Bird & MJ. That should hint at something. It's not always about stats that was my point.

[@eazywork7192]

Kareem is the GOAT

[@DatBoi_YT]

I wait for the day Lebron sits across from Skip and we have the ultimate showdown.... Goku vs Vegeta 🔥🔥🔥

[@Hotstylez90]

its Dat Boi LeBron is actually a fan of Skip

[@mahnamejay]

its Dat Boi Goku vs Hercule, you mean

[@mahnamejay]

its Dat Boi your bot vs drop step, made me get drop stepped

[@DatBoi_YT]

appreciate the support fam

[@NBAk-ru7id]

its Dat Boi didn't expect to see u here

[@lakersnation4034]

Kobe Bryant is the closet thing to Michael Jordan, lebron is different he basically karl Malone and magic Johnson

[@christianpetti1114]

yup

[@ragingdemon14]

I said the same thing. He do play more like magic

[@Michael-tm6vs]

Basically

[@celo456937]

I think he's more like Magic/ Scottie Pippen

[@johnnyn4776]

@@celo456937 naw

[@RahulPresentsKobe]

"Kobe could score the basketball, but he probably shot 3 or 4 more times than LeBron" Kobe career FGA: 19.6 LeBron career FGA: 19.5 lol ok

[@100ovrbatmanbron7]

RahulPresentsKobe oh they shot the same amount, Kobe just averages less points and made less shots because he's not as good.

[@RahulPresentsKobe]

+Meely lol ok

[@jaythreejohn3542]

This is actually wrong Lebron averages 19.6 FGA to kobes 19.5 FGA. So lebron shoots more

[@russell9411]

Meely right so with your own 2 eyes kobe is not as good..lets see LeBron avg 30 with a dominant center clogging the lane

[@russell9411]

RahulPresentsKobe first 4 years kobe wasn't even attempting shots. that's why bron career avg higher than kobe

[@mr.ramirez6159]

Kobe can lock Lebron more than Lebron can lock Kobe #Facts . and he played in the tougher conference

[@paradigmshift7541]

Anyone that says LeBron over Kobe doesn't know basketball. Prime LeBron locked down by Old Kobe kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqeYqJ2riNSobZY

[@Daveisnowhere.]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@WE23anime]

Also Kobe played the first half of his career in Jordan's era when the game was more physical...

[@theanswerpp3702]

Paradigm Shift That just shows Kobe is a better one on one player lmao. Lebron is better 5 on 5.

[@jaccbolton]

Lebron took advantage of being in the east his whole career. Now he in LA.... They might not make the playoffs

[@KBovaMJeFFBruceBlitz]

I WOULD TAKE KOBE NUFF SAID

[@jamesdean6127]

Kobe is best over lebron. lower case lebron.

[@norvinzor]

Id take Kobe even if he has 0 rings

[@thsu8]

Damn I felt that. I would too. The only thing that matters is mindset. Kobe's mindset was levels above LeBron.

[@thsu8]

@SoCalifornia29 Kobe at age 21 was more skilled than LeBron has ever been.

[@josh4lyfe134]

@@thsu8 oh yes and lebron at literally everything other age is better than Kobe every was.... not even a comparison bro sorry

[@melvynsngltn27]

@@thsu8 Kobe at 21 was inconsistent

[@cipumcomine6500]

I'd even take high school Kobe over Lebum Lames. 💯

[@paulwilliams2024]

Shannon Sharp is in denial

[@talkditingsdem5799]

Jordan = 6 out of 6 Kobe = 5 out of 7 Lebron = 3 out of 7 Enough said. Lebron skill set doesn't even belong in the same conversation with Mj and Kobe. Stats mean nothing. I watched Kawhi Leonard make Lebron look like a D league player in the finals, no one ever locked down Mj or Kobe in the finals.

[@talkditingsdem5799]

Xxerict808xX also tone all that emotion down, its not that serious mi yute.

[@talkditingsdem5799]

Xxerict808xX I'm not about to read that emotional fairytale you just typed. Bottom line 3 out of 7 chips vs. 5 out of 7. Would of been 2-7 for Bron but the league saved him last finals. Stop bitchin fassey! I rather have rings than fancy meaningless statistics, he's going to go down in nba history for the most nba finals lost.

[@talkditingsdem5799]

Xxerict808xX Oh yeah I forgot they play for stats, players don't play to win rings, what was I thinking, for some dumb reason I thought they had the nba playoffs to compete for a ring, mybad mi yute. So all this time, they were just playing for stats, so they can say they are the best player. You must of ate paint chips when you was in kindergarten because you're slow, you're the kind of slow that make me believe your parents was first cousins.

[@Xxerict808xX]

Talkditings dem so let's get another point of view. Is Derek fisher, who has 5 rings, better than Lebron, who has 3 rings??? This makes Derek fisher equally as good as Kobe? Thank you so much for clearing that up for me.

[@josenixonasignacion3902]

Robert Horry = 7 rings so whose better than 7

[@thecommentreferee646]

I hate when people say "Kobe can't defend". Look at how many times he was selected to all defensive 1st team and then tell me can't defend.

[@joshtrevino969]

The Comment Referee when do people ever say kobe cant defend?

[@basicallyl482]

@@joshtrevino969 trust me you'd be surprised

[@SuperWizzle85]

Facts

[@Teabagonyou]

The Comment Referee He absolutely could defend.

[@MichaelSmith-tp3yr]

Jordan PERIOD!!! There should be no conversation about this. Kobe never was part of a big 3. Took down a big 4. And could have just as easily been Finals MVP when Shaq was.

[@melvynsngltn27]

What year

[@dondreytaylor8001]

Kobe is a freakin beast, with and without Shaq. Everyone will always try to discredit him. He won twice without shaq. Hater would say "yea but he had Pau Gasol". Did LeBron not have help when he won in Miami? Also, LeBron did have Shaq, twice lol hahahaha

[@TheSeahawksDidntRunTheBall]

Shay Butta​ Kobe lost with a Prime Shaq...... While Karl Malone and Gary Payton was on his team.....

[@sdao23]

yeah kobe just lost with shaq karl malone and GP... oh and since you disregarding injuries and prime dont forget he lost with a squad of steve nash, pau, metta and dwight

[@prophecy9521]

No, hater would say he had Gasol, Lamar and Bynum. Plus that wasn't Shaq anymore that was Shaquille O'Neal

[@beckettnewton3098]

Dondrey Taylor he had a washed up Shaq you no brainless idiot.

[@davidletherine7628]

The Seahawks didn't run the ball Karl was out then they lose. If Karl is not injured, they win

[@Dalitszz]

Lebron ran to Miami to ring chase then tried to run back to Cleveland to a Kyrie Irving and multiple tradable 1st round picks to get a Kevin Love for a new big 3 once he felt like he couldn't win with Miami anymore. He tries to stack the chips in his favor every year now the non competitive way. He wins with talent and not with heart

[@rishikalia6022]

If you could win with just heart Ewing, Miller, and Iverson would have a few rings too.

[@hanifmartin7505]

Rishi Kalia lol facts best comment

[@noahhattrup8360]

It's actually very smart what he did. He had his best interest in mind and he wanted to fulfill his promise to Cleveland. That wasn't going to happen though with the team he had before... they were incredibly underpowered. Maybe a 30 win team at best without him. He wanted to get championship experience with a good team to become an even better leader than he was previously. He also knew that the team would tank and get better with him gone and in his return they would become a great team. He was tired of coming up close but not having the pieces he needed in Cleveland.

[@787BigZ]

Say this if Shaq was not in the lakers with Kobe. Kobe would not have as many rings it's not about the team change it's about the players that were there u can't say lebron James is worse than Kobe just because of the rings. Compare it to Allen iverson. He never got a ring and he was in like 4 different team no rings

[@benjaminpenney7150]

Dalitszz stop

[@Myrocke24]

Kobe would've never lost with that Miami team Convo OVER

[@bonzaiitrees908]

I liked how Stephen said we cant compare Kobe and Lebron, Both different players, different positions.

[@anthonyb2559]

Kobe is better and closer... So stop it

[@mdeezy247]

Better at what? Scoring? Rebounding? Assist?

[@echouses]

Don’t understand why they keep talking about Kobe having Shaq and Pau! Why don’t they mention about LBJ’s teammates DWade, CBosh, Kyrie and KLove? It’s stupid!

[@Chatty_Introvert-kun]

BeaDomTroy Because Shaq carried Kobe in their first 3 chips, Kobe was not the finals mvp during that time. He only won 2 chips with Pau. Lebron carried Wade and Bosh during his time in miami and won as finals mvp back to back and also carried cavs 2015-2016.

[@shainejones1940]

DaRomeo no

[@blakvenum7687]

Russel Llabores how did he carry Kobe if Kobe averaged 29 points and Shaq averaged 30 lol . By your logic curry was carried by igoudala and by Durant knowing damn well curry averaged 30 points per game lol. Your really don't know basketball

[@DarthRevan823]

KOBE!!!! I love Kobe and I'm a celtics fan Kobe is better than lebron and Stephen Jackson is right about it and Kobe helped Phil and Shaq not the other way around Kobe is the reason why they had a three peat shaq had no rings in LA til Kobe got there

[@jhgosnell]

ultimate gamer assassin Kobe is a killer!

[@hitman321100]

"KOBE HELPED SHAQ" LMAO even though Shaq put up way better numbers than he did. Also Kobe got bailed out by Ron Artest in game 7 while Kobe shot 6 of 24 from the field.

[@ohsombraa2131]

The Legendary One lol look at the stats before the finals, there are games before that too

[@alanc2762]

Ultimate I think both Shaq and Kobe needed each other. Case and point The career highlight play of Shaq’s career was that lob play against Portland when Kobe threw the ball for Shaq to dunk it. Btw they both came to LA in 1996

[@xplicitjc]

If I could find someone who loves me like Shannon loves LeBron, I would be a happy man.

[@thehotsungA]

I know a homeless guy you would like. He just want you to buy him alcohol in return.

[@reberiusjoseph2134]

Shannon always saying “if this” “ if that” My guy it is what it is .....speak based on the facts

[@vegathevictor]

Rondo, Ray Allen, Pierce, KG were all on the C's team Kobe beat

[@kaikawasumi]

*Rondo, Ray Allen, Pierce, KG were all on the C's team Ron Artest and the rest of the Lakers beat because Kobe didn't show up.

[@mazphamm]

Ross Banter you wanna know Kobe's stats for that game 7? 23 points on 6-24. Take that for data!

[@vegathevictor]

Lebron complimented that, thats why he joined the heat, Kobe was good enough to do that to win a chmpnship

[@RetroMamba]

maz phamm still better than 8 points

[@guylabayen1677]

Kobe also got 15 rebounds and guarded Rondo... so yeah

[@crazeespender]

If Kobe was on the east coast he would of put up some ridiculous numbers, regular season and playoffs. LBJ is a great player but i would take Kobe to start and finish a game. The thing that separates Kobe and LBJ is Kobe has better foot work and post moves, he even has a better shot and he wont pass it in the last 3 min of the game unless he knows for sure its an easy assist. We cant say that about LBJ. Last point to add everyone says LBJ makes players around him better we could say the same about Kobe because before Pau came the the Lakers he didn't have that killer instinct in him Kobe engraved that in him, he also made made his teammates go harder in practice and that filtered on the games. LBJ great player but as of now i still have Kobe in front of him. LBJ best at his position all time Michael Jordan first at his potion all time and Kobe Bean Bryant second right behind Jordan. Ill even throw this in, D. Wade could be third behind Kobe. So everyone keeps saying how many rings would Kobe have without Shaq when the real question is when would LBJ get his first ring if it wasn't for Wade the third best at his position behind M.J. and Kobe? #YourTrueNBAFan

[@coreytrepagnier9343]

Jonathan Wynn nah lebron turned chris bosh n kevin love in spot up shooters

[@eviltwin4760]

Jonathan Wynn well said bro !

[@nasirjones3744]

exactly bron made them worst and now they are laughing stocks

[@NotLikeUss]

Kobe on the east would've went to the finals how many times straight before his damn Achilles popped? Ya'll sound stupid Kobe on the east wouldn't even make the playoffs with 2007 Cavs. FOH talking stupid Kobe had Prime Shaq imagine LeBron with a PRIME SHAQ. We got atleast 5, no 6, no 7, no 8 rings.

[@francisbawasanta6310]

@@NotLikeUss Please. The eastern conference have had so little competition over Lebron's career there have been teams that made the playoffs with sub .500 records. Even the teams that weren't sub .500 wouldn't even sniff the Western Conference playoffs. It's easy to advance when you're beating up on trash the first 2 rounds every year. Now that LBJ is in the Western conference we see how hard it could have been for him. Those Cavs squads would have been 5-6 seeds every year in the West. Kobe didn't need half of team USA either to cop the next 2 chips. Lebron needed 2 Max players and half of team USA to "feel" like he's ready to compete. The two best players Kobe played with on his second run were Gasol and Odom. Great players but Wade and Bosh? Definitely an upgrade. Bynum didn't even ever play again after leaving LA. I'd argue Kobe did more with less while in tougher waters than LBJ.

[@PAuWang-dv4yn]

Kobe is better than Lebron

[@antar5500]

Yes he is.

[@anthonyortiz8053]

💯

[@33weaponx]

Nomad 47 should be, Kobe better overall and all-around than Lebron. less help, not a bunch of all-stars in their prime

[@liamdunphy7496]

At what ? Getting carried by shaq.

[@JaeMizz]

Liam Dunphy Shaq didnt carry him, there was no legitmate center for Shaq to play against. Name the centers shaq played in the finals that actually mattered? You cant.

[@Jaxon23294]

Lebron over Kobe is INSANE

[@festivalxd1997]

Lebron averages more points, rebounds, assist, blocks, steals, FG%, 3PT%, better PER and does it more efficient, lebron is light years better

[@joshfreeman9011]

@@festivalxd1997 if all you're looking at is stats then you're not watching kobe. The man is the closest to jordan. Kobe was a winner and finisher.

[@raferalstonisgoat4457]

LeBron is also better in 4th quarters. Men lie and women lie but stats don't lie

[@joshfreeman9011]

@@raferalstonisgoat4457 stats dont tell the whole story.

[@MallyG678]

@@festivalxd1997 I wouldn't say light years ahead, but Bron is just the better basketball player. People just get enamored w/ scoring, but I get it. Kobe aesthetically had the better looking offensive game. Bron is just more efficient in almost every phase sans free throws.

[@elchapo2287]

if lebron never left his team he wouldn't have any rings

[@onepiece6529]

I doubt that for some reason. It was js a matter of time until Cleveland becomes a superteam.

[@beam2348]

Henry Tran If lebron never left then they wouldn’t have gotten Kyrie

[@albertedmond9134]

El Chapo if Kobe didn’t have shaq he wouldn’t have any rings if if it

[@gabrielbennett877]

Albert edmond But he won 2 without shaq so you really can't say that.. What has LeBron won without a closer?

[@albertedmond9134]

Gabriel Bennett game 7 vs the Celtics go watch what Kobe did and the only reason he won in 09 bc kg got injured and no one could compete with them I love Kobe no doubt one of my fav players but everyone needs help

[@dirktha8892]

Replace Kobe with Lebron on the 08-10 Lakers and the Lakers would not win a ring, let alone make 3 straight final appearances.

[@albertstine2258]

DirkTha88 Lmao Kobetard alert Give LeBron Frontline of All Star Bynum and Gasol with versatile 6th Lamar Odom with Defender All Star Ron Artest with Phil Jackson and LeBron would win 3 Rings with those Lakers If LeBron can make NBA Finals with 0 Hall Of Famers in 2007 he can win with Lakers team in 2009 an 2010 2007 Cavs that LeBron got to NBA Finals with no Hall Of Famers lol Kobe would have lost EFC to Pistons and Kobe wouldn't even make NBA Finals

[@lengend03]

DirkTha88 blasphemy kobe never had a super team.

[@cjcurry2446]

since when did Bynum, gasol, and odom become hall of famers???

[@Uchawibeatz]

Facts boy

[@Uchawibeatz]

that's on paper. Most people don't even remember these guys being that good. Without Kobe that team would have never made the finals. Did you even watch during the games how Kobe was coaching (literally) Pau and Bynum on how they could draw the defense and better perform their pick and roll. That's something Lebron doesn't have. The knowledge and the defense Kobe had, even during his last years in the league he was still a better defender than LeBron is. If you saw the Finals you'll know what I mean

[@justineandrei4705]

I miss the time when NBA was about watching the game, not the stats. Anyone who actually watches the game would know that Kobe was the closest thing to Michael Jordan (both are SG, so it is natural). LeBron plays on a different position (SF/PF), so it is actually kind of impossible to compare them

[@Dapper_Dean]

you can compare them by their killer instinct though, in which Bron had zilch. S. Jackson said it best.

[@mrniceguy5531]

KOBE hes a Killa! He would take on anyone!!

[@noahcaucasus]

Lebron is not even in conversation with Kobe in terms of Game on the court, Lebron plays in east his stats look good, but on the court he is not as polished, not a confident shooter, keep him from the rim and he is average.

[@liamdunphy7496]

That's why he beats him in every stat....

[@Chatty_Introvert-kun]

Noah Caucasus keep him from the rim and he passes and creates open shots for his teamates. Can rebound and is a floor general and a team leader. I doubt someone can keep him from the rim tho.

[@aravbhatt2875]

ur an idiot

[@angelofdeathjk]

Damn this aged poorly. Not only is LeBron 1st in the West, but he also has a higher shooting % than Kobe. RIP Mamba.

[@tyranitarxd2819]

I'd take Tim Duncan ovver lebron

[@GetFitWithManny]

tyranitarxd ,u can take jvale Mcgee over bron,cuz ur bron hater😂

[@mitchellajieroh]

tyranitarxd too far

[@berionggorilya6010]

I'd take Terry over leflop drama queen

[@cellthegreat4365]

tyranitarxd DAMM

[@jamesdean6127]

Duncan way better than lebron.

[@eddilovee]

Skip hit the nail. LeBron choked in 2011. Besides Dirk, the best player on that team was who? Tyson Chandler?

[@slimdougmaddox4634]

The Mavs were a great team, they same way the Pistons were, when they beat the Lakers. The Heat were great players, wearing the same jersey.

[@Teabagonyou]

Russell He absolutely didn’t even want the ball in game 4,5, and 6.

[@Teabagonyou]

SlimDoug Maddox They weren’t great. They were good. Lot’s of role players. Besides Dirk no stars.

[@angelofdeathjk]

@@Teabagonyou Weren't great beat the defending champion Lakers 4-0.

[@davidarreola2013]

Zyphur7 with 3 injured players including Kobe missing the series before and coming back with a broken finger

[@bullymaguire6773]

Sharpe must have forgotten that Kobe was an elite defender when he talks about Kobe like he's only a scorer. Kobe even had more selections than Scottie Pippen.

[@rockafelladw]

Westbrook just averaged 30 ppg and a triple-double for the season! LeBron's NEVER done that. Yet I don't hear one person saying Westbrook is the best player in the league. So obviously stats aren't that important. Well, if stats aren't that important then all that's left are championships and the mark you left on the game and it's fans.

[@FALUKYOURMOM]

he will still lose. he was a choke artist back then.

[@taylorjaquez]

He's not efficient he's just the only good player on a team potentially a lottery team without him. #took34shotstogetit

[@sama.7850]

All those triple doubles because he's a selfish player. Oh, and how many rings does Westbrook have? Yeah, nuff said.

[@sama.7850]

Anthony Mercado - Basketball is a team game. Lebron has made people on his team BETTER. Lebron can do everything! Westbrook just attempts to carry his team which sure is impressive but they would have better luck with teamwork...

[@Xxerict808xX]

rockafelladw his triple doubles are slightly overrated. He has the highest percentage of leaving his man open for a shot AND his team seriously dodges out of the way of an EASY rebound to give it to Westbrook. Not the impressive

[@TheRabidbunnies]

1:50 Actually, people have looked it up, and over their careers, Kobe and LeBron averaged the same amount of FGA's, although Kobe did average 0.7 more FGAs in his prime than in LeBron's prime. #facts People just stay hatin on Kobe since he retired smh. They forget how much of a monster and killer he was for YEARS before all the injuries and age brought him back to Earth. I honestly don't even know how much basketball Shannon watched during Kobe's prime, cause at certain points it just sounds like he's making things up as he goes just so he can win an argument

[@lonzoball410]

Skip lowkey in love with lebron lmao

[@charliemoody3318]

What ? You mean Shannon ?

[@EEMonesE1]

That's white men Jealousy. Skip has no white men to compare to Lebron, so he tries to put him down; racist and Hypocrite.

[@milesgardner9988]

He isn't racist at all. Whenever he puts LeBron down isn't he always saying a different black man is better?

[@Mike-sx8nc]

Petit Pè you that guy that always gotta bring up race

[@EEMonesE1]

You just don't get it; naive. He just doesn't have any white man to compare to Lebron.

[@cut1986]

I would take Kobe over Lebron. And Michael over Kobe. Done.

[@saiyerugara9038]

Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant

[@yixu5586]

I’d take Bird over Lebron as best SF. Lebron’s all round playing brings good stats but actually hurts teammates’ positioning. Why everyone has to sacrifice stats and fit in his ‘system’? SF should do what SF’s supposed to do, isn’t it?

[@saiyerugara9038]

@@yixu5586 Lebron James is better than Larry Bird for me.

[@yixu5586]

@Saiye Rugara okay... I just personally prefer tough guy mentally more than physically.

[@knightofthelordjesuschrist1471]

@yi xu exactly someone that understands, bron is good yeah but he makes the pg on the floor useless and is listed as a sf , he makes positionless basketball which pushes everyone into 3 pt shooters kind of like Dray in GSW but against hand checking rules that’d be useless therefore Larry would be more useful than bron

[@lionofjudah2999]

Stephen Jackson is my dude man! When I worked for The New Jersey Nets Stephen was like a brother to me.

[@PaulMic]

Shaq was never the closer, he needed Kobe for that. Lebron is not a closer. Shaq and Bron would not win many rings if any coming out of the west.

[@christophermoffett7517]

exactly what I be saying that Bum has NO half court game at all. Closing Hunger Ice water in the veins never say die in their veins mastering their crafts is what made KOBE AND MICHEAL Greatest Of All Time

[@aa19776]

Paul Mic lmao yea they wouldn't need to close. And lebron closed out the pistons and a few other teams

[@thepac12andbig10suck]

and when they couldn't do it, Big shot Bob came in the CLUTCH

[@jbestderulo45]

Kobe average 15ppg and won stop it

[@jorgeescalante8275]

This is by far the dumbest comment I have read on KZbin since I’ve used the app

[@bleach299990]

Kobe over Lebron all day and every day.

[@cumbusta9175]

Kobe ain’t greater

[@CMcycle]

Shannon acts as if he also played against both Kobe and LeBron 🤦 I'd take Stephen Jackson's opinion over some analyst that never played in the NBA 🤷‍♀️

[@kytelonbarksdale4973]

stats doesn't proves who is a better player Bruh I'm tired of that. who is the better player kobe. LeBron fans hate to admit that they always go to the stats. LeBron have never been hurt like kobe during his career, LeBron will always have better stats bc he had a better team and to be honest he don't even have to shoot the ball like that. Kobe had to shoot all those times and those that call kobe a ball hog let me go to the facts here Yall remember when kobe blew a 3-1 league to the suns in the series. He stop shooting so he prove the world his team is nothing without him. kobe stayed with one team during his career he proved that he could win WITHOUT SHAQ. Let's see If LeBron James can without 2 all stars.

[@kytelonbarksdale4973]

If you LeBron would've stayed with Cleveland at the beginning when he wasn't winning and plus he had to shoot all the time his stats would've been just like kobe.

[@Chatty_Introvert-kun]

Kytelon Barksdale Who has the most missed shots? And also, Lebron has more points with less shots than Kobe. Kobe had Pau and Fisher during his time also.

[@akolangsakalam3172]

search their one on one stats guarding each other then slap it to every lebitch legay lechoke lesoft leflop lebald fans out there

[@xaviervega468]

joebert jumawid Except Lebron is 16-6 against Kobe for his career.

[@franknice187]

Kytelon Barksdale stop watching basketball bruh.,........Kobe is nowhere near LeBron or Mj

[@winstonsmith7399]

KOBE THA BLACK MAMBA> LBJ

[@alexsnowberg2181]

The most important aspect of a player can't be found on a stat sheet. CLUTCH. Kobe is probably the greatest scorer under pressure or with seconds remaining on the clock than anyone ever. LeBron, not so much. I'll take Kobe any day.

[@charlescooks9360]

Alex Snowberg he missed all those shots under pressure

[@himmothy111]

Lebron is more clutch than Kobe

[@nabilinho8936]

Let this fact sink in: Kobe made it to the playoffs with Kwame brown and Smush Parker. If it was Lebron he would cry about it and demand help.

[@alldubs6764]

In the west

[@himmothy111]

Lebron took the cavs to the finals with a bunch of nobody’s in his fourth year in the league

[@youngerudit2524]

hee made the playoffs then what?? LMFAO Lebron made the FINALS with a way worse team and woulda won a momentum changing game 1 on the road if it wasn't for Jr. Kobe can't be compared to Lebron it's not even close. he's still a legend and an all time great tho,RIP.

[@bobbysbluebooster]

@@youngerudit2524 he (kobe) made the playoff and won two rings with smush and kwame. Maybe you forgot

[@christianhenry4173]

@@himmothy111 but now he's on the west and hasn't won much still? Lol I guess all those losses catches up with his legs and he has 4 rings. He maybe ahead of Hakeem or Dr j but I still say he's not ahead of magic or Kareem the disrespect has to stop. I don't think lebron has fully surpassed Duncan who's whooped him twice in the finals and the fact the warriors have bested him 3/4 should end the goat debates especially since he joined a superteam himself

[@josecastanon3083]

#1.Jordan=🐐 #2.Kobe=BlackMamba #10.Lebron=🚽🗑

[@nolimitmiller]

Dominic dominic 5>3

[@DonkeyKong5479]

KD > Kobrick and LeBUM

[@davidortiz2026]

Dominic dominic, but all you gus say that rings don't count. Now you are counting final mvp

[@aravbhatt2875]

@@nolimitmiller 3 FMVP > 2

[@FoxyChariot]

Dominic dominic Lolol 5-2 vs 3-6

[@IMBATMANANDIMCOOL]

Lebrons impact decreases his team mates stats. Why did Lebrons team mates stats decrease? a) Wade b) Bosh c) Kyrie d) Love. Lebrons stats increase and his team LOST. The problem is Lebron is 3/7. Kobe on the other hand his teammates Pau, Bynum and Shaq's stats were the best and his teams WON. 5/7

[@francomendoza8995]

Kobe is way better then lebron period, Kobe is a GAME WINNER!!! lebron is a cry baby of all time!!!

[@thestarksofwinterfell1155]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@koreysylver9276]

Shannon Sharpe is paid to be an antagonist. I still believe that. His unrelenting drive to prove Bron is the greatest player the NBA has ever seen, not one of the greatest but “GOAT James” has just become so repetitive that it feels like theater

[@ralx225b]

Shannen DO SOME DAMN RESEARCH! Kobe's career average for shots per game is 19.5 guess what Lebron's is? 19.6 so no Kobe did not take more shots per game than Lebron through the entirety of his career. There were seasons sure, but throughout the entirety of his career Lebron averages MORE SHOTS!!

[@MIZ0217]

just hapens lebron was more efficient therefore more ppg than kobe lol.

[@MIZ0217]

Anthony Navarro kobe is a better scorer by abit lebron is a better rebounder passer defender and team player . idk what you trying to say lol. lebron is MUCH more efficient than kobe is . lebron has shot 57% twice with 27 and 28 ppg respectively. kobe has never shot above 50%

[@hints21]

Anthony Navarro Lebrons career high is 61 against the bobcats playoff career high is 49 while Kobes is 50

[@jasirvinmann8036]

That's only because of the crazy low 5 fga as a rookie Kobe had. Lebron was always carrying a team from day one. Outliers can skew data.

[@sonicdagoon4819]

Look at from 2000-2013 when Kobe was in his prime years he was taking more than 20 shots a game. And Lebron is known as a pass first player

[@xAUSTIN316x]

kobe is a better player in every way then leflop payed off reff james

[@kadehanley7639]

lebron averages more ppg, apg, rpg higher % in the field more mvps more finals mvps only thing kobe got over lebron is rings and he wasnt even the best on his team 3/5 of them kobe has the most missed shots in nba history and lebron is 3rd all time scoring list and has a pass first mentality, one of the best passers of all time and the best in the league right now in his first season as a point guard

[@tammaralsadkhan6739]

Kade Hanley passing? Look at his turnover ratio. Averages 4 turnovers. I would hope he averages more rebounds since he’s way bigger. Kobe has the most missed shots because he played shooting guard longer than anyone, while lebron plays in a cupcake era and scores. Lebron has melted down WAYY more. Lebron gets his finals in a weak east, now in the west he’s missed the playoffs and will lose before the finals again. Those finals appearances are overrated. Kobe’s stats in first finals were down because he got injured purposefully and in game 4, when Shaq fouled out, he closed the deal in overtime and carried them. That’s without saying how great kobe was in the western conference finals against Portland when he carried them, including the 4th quarter of game 7 when they were down 15. In 2001, he averaged 25, 6, and 5, and in 2002 he averaged 27, 7, and 6. Lebrons more efficient because he plays in an era where everyone is efficient. Now do me a favor and use stats with context, not without.

[@xAUSTIN316x]

@@kadehanley7639 if your only logic is to go by stats then hows this one kobe 5 and 2 and leflop 3 and 6 with super teams in a weak conference.

[@markl2007]

Hey sharpe, how many rings would lebron get if he didnt transfer to MIAMI>??

[@fangiscool1]

Mark L 0. Every team he's on players get worse. He needs to stop trying to coach.

[@jerrychapman4187]

Great question

[@arcreal7608]

Hey! How many rings would Kobe get if Phil Jackson didn’t coach the Lakers?

[@gabrielbennett877]

Archx Real lol players play the game.. if anything Phil held Kobe back

[@arcreal7608]

Gabriel Bennett Yes players play the game but this is NBA! No matter how good the player, he can’t win more title without a great coach. Kobe can’t bring the Lakers to the Playoffs without Phil Jackson. In 2004-2005 season when Phil Jackson didn’t coach the Lakers, The Lakers missed the playoffs for the first time in Kobe’s career. Even though Kobe finished second in scoring but still not enough to bring the Lakers to the Playoffs. Kobe can’t make playoffs without Phil Jackson. Kobe needs Phil Jackson. Lol

[@mj4life59]

RIP to the Mamba. One of the GOATS 🐐

[@debulonfive1319]

Why does Savanna Sharpe keep talking about Jordan be swept in the 1st round when LeBron got swept in the finals. Smdh

[@mikitaskov873]

Lebron will lose in the 1st round too, now that, he is in the west playing for the lakers.

[@hailemhailem1320]

Savanna sharpe.lol

[@peterstark4562]

@@mikitaskov873 worse, he didnt make the playoffs even after activating his playoff mode.

[@Noors14]

How is it worse to get swept in the finals than the first round that makes no sense

[@peterstark4562]

@@Noors14 Context dude. Jordan was swept by great teams (twice by dynasty team) in FIRST three seasons in the NBA. It was also a best of 5 series not best of 7. It was like rookie to junior lebron facing the San Antonio Spurs in the first round of the playoffs in a best of 5 series! Also the finals is the main event, biggest stage, national and worldwide TV event where the best of the east meets the best of the west. Not the 8th seed meets the 1st seed.

[@Kangman02]

anyone who thinks lbj would run kobe off court a damn fool. KZbin 2012 and 2013 all star Game when kobe plays seriously against lbj. also stats lie so much. lbj is more efficient but that doesn't make him better as a player. rebounding and passing is the only 2 attributes better. kobe got footwork, post, outside, jumper, free throw , better perimeter defender (12 time all first team defense), tougher mentally, killer instict. Shannon is so biased. if you say mj the goat and the goat even says kobe better then what's the debate

[@Only1Feedie]

All the nba players know wassup with Kobe

[@yashanohime]

Especially Lebron

[@TrisjenHarris1203]

G Malco Exactly

[@WOWOWOWOWOWOOWWOWOWO]

Magic takes Lebron top 5 he has never said that about kobe. Doc Rivers as well... Isiah thomas has also..

[@Only1Feedie]

WOWOWOWOWOWOOWWOWOWO I am sure Kobe is in Magics top 5.Magic even thinks Kobe is better than him he calls Kobe the Greatest Laker Ever And even MJ,the greatest player ever thinks Kobe is better than Lebron

[@justsomerandomshit1390]

1.Kobe 2.Mj 3.Kareem 4.Magic 5.Larry Why lebron on their list? Hmm i dont think so lebron isnt even top 10. He is top 20 of all time.

[@iconiccreditservices692]

Get the fck out of here

[@MallyG678]

Terrible list..... Just terrible. 😅

[@Jordan23-G.O.A.T.]

Jordan never shrank in the playoffs or finals period. Jordan has the highest scoring average in history for season and playoffs. 6-0 finals. Goodbye.

[@antar5500]

You're right FRANK WHITE and LOL @ "Goodbye"

[@detectivedoggo204]

Playoff record without Pippen?

[@TheGreatWesternTrendkill]

the way Jackson explained his point is legendary

[@greenwaytruckinginc6134]

I died when Shannon said "Man I can't believe you sit up here and said that jack"!😭😭😭

[@fernandocarlos3269]

I agreed 100% to Stephen Jackson Kobe >LeBron

[@cumbusta9175]

Stop smoking

[@SincereSentinel]

Finally some truth from a former nba player, alot of guys and especially the broadcasters, want to have the viewers on their side so they'll do whats popular and gets their approval. But Kobe still is and was better than Lebron. They never got to face each other in the finals, but if they did Kobe would've when been happier than anyone cuz he begs to challenge anyone who thinks they can beat him, and it woulda been personal. Some people shine in the Finals, it woulda taken 12 flagrant fouls, two injuries, and a stretcher to keep Kobe from taking lebron out in the finals

[@charlesdoss4162]

arronnov imagine if Kobe was surrounded by "great" shooters in a weak east......hmmmmmmmm

[@sillyboyyt3708]

Charles Doss shooters are useless with kobe team he isnt passing the ball hog to his tea mate😂

[@charlesdoss4162]

jerwin lacoste not true...he had no-one to pass"to"....surrounded by d-league players most of his career... .when he had "1" decent teammate...shaq/gasol....he delivered 5/7......there is a Reason....most NBA teams complained when Lakers try to acquire Chris paul.....Kobe most likely would have added to his "rings".....and would "still" be playing if he had talent around him to shoulder the load......Kobe= best I ever seen

[@fatboyRAY24]

Real talk, LeBron shies away from challenges, which is why he loves creating stacked teams in the East.

[@Swayone24]

strikehair55 I absolutely agree bro Kobe will always be a killer and a threat to the game... who ever he plays looks at his 81 point game and his 40 point games in a row. He is absolutely a beast and a freak of nature

[@mr.ramirez6159]

Lebron handpicked his teams and had another ballhandler in the crunchtime in his championship teams like wade and kyrie to ease his pressure. Kobe was always the man in the crunchtime and he delivered 5 rings. When Lebron couldve made the gamewinner on Kobe in the all-star game, he passed/turned it over. mamba aint kyle lowry boa!.... Yes Lebron will have all the stats cuz hes a freak. Kobe bout them rings

[@mr.ramirez6159]

good point

[@MaJeSTiCz0]

Emperor Gaucho True

[@DJQuan718]

"I'm not a Phil fan" Skip: Thank you 😂😂😂

[@Bisher__]

The thing is guys agree or not Kobe wanted to be almost exactly like Jordan and Lebron is his own self so I prefer Lebron that's my opinion

[@Jason-id3yp]

After watching a lot of these videos, I'm starting to realize that Shannon rides Lebron like crazy.

[@AncientWisdom-TV]

Kobe is better at winning 5-2 in finals Lebron 3-7 soon to be 3-8 there's no debate here

[@julystylez5087]

Professional basketball players would have the best judgment on who's better because they played at this high level

[@demarcopatterson4955]

Exactly

[@Teabagonyou]

July Stylez And played against the guys they speak about unlike Shannon. Who is apparently a basketball expert now. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@slipnorris5882]

If you want to have fun play with Lebron, you want to win rings play with Kobe

[@kidkino5150]

Per Larry Legend!

[@jaybrick8973]

Easy to win rings when you playing with arguably the most dominant big man ever

[@amandamcnabb3398]

@@jaybrick8973 oh fr could u have done it

[@duntrellegray4902]

@@amandamcnabb3398 ez cause shaq could get 50&16 ez I could drop 30 ez

[@marcopolo12fly]

somebody tell me wtf “All around player” means. All around to me means both sides of the ball 🤷🏾‍♂️ Kobe a better offensive and Defensive player than Lebron soo that should be the end of it

[@JJClarkNice]

How is he better on offense, I can't really even say Kobe is even a better scorer, since Bron is averaging more points, but defense, absolutely

[@cumbusta9175]

And lebron still greater

[@mrboss20ten]

No. 8: Eight All-Star game appearances (1998, 2000-06) Two scoring titles (2003, 2006) One slam dunk contest championship (1997) Four All-NBA first team selections ( 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006) Four NBA Finals appearances (2000-02, 2004) Three championships (2000-02) Four all-defensive first team selections (2000, 2003, 2004, 2006) No. 24: Ten All-Star appearances (2007-16) Two scoring titles (2007, 2008) Seven All-NBA first team selections (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013) Five All-NBA defensive team selections (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011) Three NBA finals appearances (2008-10) Two championships (2009, 2010) Two-time NBA Finals MVP (2009, 2010) 2008 NBA MVP Kobe 8: 23.7 PPG 16,866 points,. 451 fg% Kobe 24: 26.2ppg 16,717 points,. 433 fg% Identical numbers. Kobe won 2 without Shaq yet people say Kobe got carried. It sucks that Kobe couldn't be a star in his own team at the time because he would have move MVP and alot less criticism

[@juliusnailor]

Stubbo242 Shaq doesn’t win those Championships without Kobe and Kobe doesn’t win without Shaq they needed each other. Period

[@adriannieveras620]

STATS MEAN NOTHING! 3PLE DOUBLES?! 35, 9, 8?! MEANS NOTHING IF YOU DONT WIN. TITLES OVER RECORDS! 6-6, GOAT! 5-7, CLOSEST EVER. END OF DISCUSSION! ✌

[@maxinevailoces5999]

6 wins 0 defeats MJ 5 wins 2 defeats KOBE 3 wins 5 defeats LBJ

[@xrpedro]

Shannon: "We already know who he gonna take" Jackson: " I will take KOBE" Shannon: 😨 LMFAO!

[@newmansoon7444]

LeShannon yelping like a little girl after hearing another man speak highly of his boo

[@warmarchine1178]

It's crazy that everyone discredits the 3 peat cause of shaq.... Shaq was drafted in 92 didn't win a ship until he got with Kobe as a full time starter in 00' nearly 10 years!!! Was swept by the rockets in the 95 finals with The Dream who avg 32.8 11.5rebs 5.5ast 2.0stls 2.0blks ON SHAQ!!!!! And swept them 4-0 Shaq had a team The had 57wins and had penny hardaway 6'7 smooth pg who avg 25 8. & 4 that series... sooooo save me with the weak facts Had another magic team that had 60wins and got swept again by Jordan in the conf. When he cam back from retirement shaq needed another player with an skill set as Kobe all around elite skill set... he had a facilitator in penny and got swept multiple times 0-3 by pacers magic when penny avg 20+ 57win team 0-4 bulls jordan after retirement with a 60 win team 0-4 by Malone when Kobe didn't start 50+ win team 0-4 by spurs when Kobe didn't start 50+ win team Kobe first starting yr.... when they went to playoffs is when he won his first championship...period Mamba🐍 Kobe avg 28 and shaq avg 28 that 2nd ship of the 3peat And on the 3rd trip Kobe avg 30 in the playoffs and shaq avg 30.... sooooo who needed who 🤔

[@100ovrbatmanbron7]

WarMarchine 11 i love how you conveniently left out the first one.

[@warmarchine1178]

Meely which one bro.... I responded to that point cause that's everybody favorite line

[@warmarchine1178]

Meely ...first and for most Jordan and Kobe are the same family line as players Jordan & Kobe their all around skill set guys... he's an all round Specimen and "Facilitator"... magic johnson bill Russell wilt chamberlain type of blood line Facilitators naturally have better stats in the ast and rebs category ... example look at magic rebs and ast compared to Jordan's Look at Jason kids rebs and ast compared to iverson different style of play Now look at magics jump shot and shot off the dribble compared to Jordan... look at lebrons dribble pull up and shoot off the dribble compared to kobes they lose if you compare them in those aspects Lebron skill set is lacking not versatility but skill set the ability to have a move for each thing you'll see and opponents use... the most glaring one is the below avg threat of a jump shot or dribble pull up... most ppl think he passes because he's unselfish but the reality when you watch film is he hasn't developed a threatening jump shot especially in comparison to Kobe & Jordan... brons double teams come because of his power and on the drive ... Jordan & Kobe double teams came because of the skill set eliteness two different type of double teams because they're different players this is why he says it's night & day if you watch coaches film it jumps out to you right away... if you think I'm lying go back even to the last finals this is why every team backs offf and let's him shoot... now that doesn't make he less of a great player.... but remember everything is in "comparison" to these two greats... he doesn't equal up.... hands down Jordan is the goat... but kobe is the hands down most elite maxed out skill set player to ever play in the NBA... he's the only player Jordan himself said can beat him ... Everything an opponent is able to display on def Kobe has and elite response That's why every player in the NBA hesitates why the try to ask them to put bron over Kobe or near Jordan The bases of perspective from a casual fan and many of these analyst are off because they base if off stats but a player is basing everything off film first I play in the NFL it's a term we use which is eyebin the sky never lie... The Film tells it alll Mj=The Goat Kobe= The Best Basketball Player Ever Period Bron=Best Modern Day statical Goat

[@MegaPat223]

facts.. kobe got them rings for shaq

[@dexxterthatguyy8180]

W_B are we taking into account that Kobe was like 20-21 years old. he was the same age as D.Lo is rn.

[@David-cr3pt]

Top 5 NBA Players Of All Time 1 - Michael Jordan 2 - Kobe Bryant 3 - Larry Bird 4 - Magic Johnson 5 - Tie, Take your Pick Kareem Abdul Jabber LeBron James Shaquille O’Neal I’m 45 years old and those are the best players I’ve ever seen play the game. This is just my opinion. Discuss

[@jerichorazalvlogs8472]

Bron at 7?? Wtf lmao

[@commanderpinnacles]

Kobe is just a straight up hooper idk if there's ever been a more offensively and defensively skilled player that can literally do everything. But on the stat sheet Lebron wins But Kobe was just good at basketball Like you don't wanna guard him

[@jr5296]

+Heisenberg-SchrodingerEmc2 How so? Are you just parroting what the original comment is saying? At least post some stats/facts

[@GroovusChrist]

the player you're looking for is MJ. Best two way player ever

[@arturoluna475]

hero ball doesn't really work, and it's pretty much a selfish style, but somehow Kobe won playing that way. pretty incredible

[@Van_ax]

Arturo Luna That's because he played second fiddle to Shaq for three rings and had the best front court duo in the NBA in 2010. (Gasol, Bynum, Odum). He never shot above 40 points in the finals

[@Van_ax]

Heisenberg-SchrodingerEmc2 There isn't a single stat, award, hall of fame player, that thinks Kobe is better than Lebron.

[@jeremyjames1659]

Kobe was the last of the old type of players.

[@Naveed123abc]

Jeremy James well Kawhi is now

[@pendletondrew]

LeBron lost 2 more Finals and missed the playoffs since this 😂

[@zubeirjamaa]

Fr

[@cumbusta9175]

And still greater then Kobe

[@himmothy111]

And won 1

[@slylancey]

The craziest players to ever play in the NBA are literally picking Kobe all because of how fearless he was on the court

[@mr.n1933]

to be the greatest you cant take shortcuts. kobe stayed in LA weather is good or bad.meanwhile lebron take shortcut to win a ring by joining wade and bosh.

[@jamesdean6127]

lebron would never had a ring if it were not for dwane wade chris laboch

[@dominiqueclark787]

But it takes a"team" to win a title..no team in history has done it with just one player

[@joejenkins1827]

Drafted to the historical great Lakers(even tho they hadn't won a title in ten years the still was the Lakers with Shaq) in la ran by buss fam in la where everyone moved for a better life a owner who had no problem paying players n was coached by Phil also not drafted to be the savior or drafted to save a town n team Cavs in Cleveland ran by Daniel Gilbert who the first time around wouldn't spend any money on any good players 03 - 10 yo best teamate was big Z or maybe Larry Hughs n best coach Mike brown( the same one Kobe got fired in his prime) y'all comparing apples to orange two different style of play n two different builds of player....

[@Abbad1579]

That’s because Kobe played for the lakers. They’re known for great management.

[@melvynsngltn27]

@@Abbad1579 and had Superstar Shaq. How many losing seasons did the Lakers had with Shaq again

[@murilocruz7752]

NBA players know who is scarier to play against. They will say that they respect Lebron to the max, but they will almost always say that Kobe is scarier.

[@greyez7]

People who don't have Kobe near the top 5 are haters or have no knowledge of basketball. This many was elite on offense for sure but what helps make him a legend besides the big clutch moments was that he was an elite defender most of his career. Larry Bird should NEVER be above Kobe. Idgaf about Bill Russell's rings when there were only EIGHT teams in the NBA. You can't even legitimately say 10 guys who are arguable with Kobe. MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bron and MAYBE Hakeem, Wilt, Shaq and less likely Russell and the Big O. No one else should be mentioned in the category of better than Kobe especially Bird and SysTIM Duncan

[@ASAcosta1]

Media pushes Lebron. Why is there even an argument from a a pure talent and winning mentality standpoint. Kobe.

[@peacepeace5930]

Remember in more than half the time I’d say most of the time most players choose Kobe over Lebron . I think I’d take a actual nba players choice much more serious than those who aren’t . Kobe = 🐐

[@jaydubb2005]

L3-6bron never passed Kobe, let alone Jordan. It's literally and logically impossible to be the greatest of all time with a losing record of 3-6 including 2 sweeps in the Finals. #lmao #MediaPropaganda

[@jaydubb2005]

@AM4929 Idrk Lebron failed to lead his team to a Winning Finals Record, 3peat and a Dynasty. Lebron is not great like Jordan and Kobe who have Winning Finals Records, 3peats and Dynasties. Plain and Simple. Excuses are for chumps and excuses don't matter in Life.

[@QuitCryingYouLost]

KOBE IS BETTER

[@RonielShooter]

Its crazy how real nba players who played with/against Kobe or Lebron would pick Kobe🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️