Doris Burke reacts to Michael Jordan’s Isiah Thomas, ‘Dream Team’ admission | Get Up

Doris Burke reacts to newly-surfaced audio of Michael Jordan in 2011 contradicting his "Last Dance" comments about Isiah Thomas and the 1992 USA Dream Team.
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[@WeGonBeAlright]

Would it be easier to ask who actually DID want Isiah to play on the Dream Team?

[@jukejones7594]

The best players from America, he earned the right

[@doublefieldli]

especially when it is a team sport.....

[@jbirdmartinez577]

@@jukejones7594 Thomas disrespected the game, he is not an Olympic Athlete who can honestly take the Olympic Oath as a sportsman.

[@WeGonBeAlright]

@@jukejones7594 he earned the right as a great athlete but being on the team was a privilege.

[@jrollie3228]

Exactly! This doesn’t take away from the Isaiah being one of the best PG’S of all time but he rubbed them the wrong way. I dislike that most of these guys can’t own up or just say they didn’t want him on the team. He disrupts their chemistry that summer and they knew they didn’t need him to win. He had fault in that.

[@raymelleonard3075]

Bro why is it all on mj when MAGIC,CHUCK, SCOTTIE, and LARRY didnt like em either ??

[@coleeason6007]

Scottie pippen plz go to the bar

[@raymelleonard3075]

cole eason this guy

[@raymelleonard3075]

Cool Breeze how did he lie ? The man didnt say Zeke cant play on the team he said if zeke play im not playing he didnt dictate anything it was still rod thorn and chuck daly choice obvious they gone choose mj but still

[@corwinbrown2643]

Jordan didn't want Isaiah Thomas on the team but it was already predetermined before he talked to Rod Thorn. So he didn't keep Isaiah Thomas off the dream team!

[@Hugh_Jasol]

Barkley said he didn't have a problem with Isiah. Larry Bird could barely walk yet he was on the team because of what? Credentials correct? Well Isiah had everyone but 2 players on that roster beat in the credentials department.

[@TeamDaemon1980]

"Friends can come and go, but banners hang forever." - Kobe Bryant (that sounds so MJ too)

[@propre6033]

That's actually a sad commentary. I would counter with when Kobe died, banners didn't console his wife and children; friends did.

[@rogu3tharonin]

Both of you very well said

[@Reignsupreme76]

Nothing seen with the naked eye is forever.

[@michaeljordanfansaretheworst]

So if im not mistaken you are in love with Michael Jordan and you rank him as the number 1 guy so if you like you can go on the radio program and show your facts that Michael Jordan is the number 1 guy then .

[@denissallanyu4034]

What do you say pat4clippers bout that?? The gayest fan of MJ 😂

[@mletrout7942]

I want MJ to stand up and tell the world, “Yeah, I didn’t want Isiah. So what?”

[@makamurphy]

🙌🙌🙌

[@marlonsmith924]

Mj should just own it people wouldn't c hi any different

[@kfung4]

it was no secret, but its rude to tell someone they are ugly even its the truth

[@kingjohn6278]

He a sucker that’s y he ain’t done that

[@playoffp.1501]

I think mj just forgotten it 🤣

[@SowerOfMustardSeed]

Michael technically didn’t kick isiah out. Jordan “gave” a choice - either him out or isiah out. The committee made the decision.

[@rickmemmer5625]

None of that changes the fact that he lied (no matter how you slice it). I don't care one bit about MJ refusing to play if Isiah's on the team (the guy was a thug and got what he deserved). But I do take issue with Jordan dancing around his role in what went down.

[@MicrolineC1]

You are definitely on to something, and we see l to I. Mic'20

[@KingAmaniImani]

Stop! You don't even believe that bull you spewing.

[@KingAmaniImani]

@@rickmemmer5625 clearly you don't know what a thug is...

[@bucsanders7861]

Silvester W, you're a special kind of stupid aren't you?

[@georgeballew776]

When I saw Doris I clicked

[@michaelsuerken9928]

Simp

[@Christopher._M]

@Kishon Moore beside her beauty she is a great commentator

[@chrissams6230]

Ha

[@nickvalentin9909]

Chris what beauty

[@1990758]

LMAO LMAO true

[@ambalavanant]

Doris knows so much about basketball. It's good to have her on the panel

[@petergianakopoulos4926]

She is the real deal.

[@adityeaah]

K

[@thomashoornbeck1871]

She needs to host her own show

[@greatnessembodied]

Way better than Rachel Nichols. The Derrick Rose basher

[@ericthomas917]

Great sideline reporter and game analyst

[@neil5819]

To be fair though, Michael Jordan never said "don't put Isiah Thomas on the team". He gave Rod the choice, ala "I won't play if Isiah is on the team". In other words, "it's either me or him, you choose". As opposed to "I'm on the team, don't you dare put Isiah on the team". There's a big difference.

[@zezetravels]

And even if he did say that, I wouldn't blame him. Isiah played hard and I respect that, but he also played dirty and that I can't respect

[@Jiron127]

It's bigger than that even. If mj didn't play. The others would likely bow out too

[@shravansatyanarayan1665]

MJ as good as said don't put Zeke on the team. Who in their right mind would pick Zeke over MJ. This was no choice. It was an ultimatum man.

[@Jiron127]

@@shravansatyanarayan1665 Sure. But he didn't say it. In 2016 Olympics when LeBron bowed out. Other marquee guys also didn't go. Whether because of zika virus or otherwise

[@p.wildtv]

@@zezetravels they all played dirty lol. They didn't show you the bulls dirty play

[@BC___]

S/O to Doris Burke ‼️❤️

[@012gage]

Glad to see she’s back and healthy 🙏🏾

[@clee9772]

Gotta love Doris Burke!

[@emptysuit]

But why did he have to LIE about it!?! Just own it...

[@misterpete8001]

Real talk. That's why I can't respect him as a man

[@makhines431]

@@misterpete8001 nice guys choke all the time..

[@davidelsea1296]

Own what? He still had nothing to do with it. He just said he's not going to play if hes on the team. They co uld of said well thats too bad, hes going to be. business decision at that point, jordan still didnt say he cant be on the team. He just said if he is then i have no interest in playing. Thats on the organization for keeping isiah off. They would just rather have MJ. Jordan wasn't twisting anyones arm and handpicking them.

[@adame3021]

Technically he didn’t lie. He never personally said don’t let Isaiah play on the team. He just gave em an ultimatum: it’s me or Isaiah. Lol they obviously chose the better player. If they chose Isaiah then Jordan would have chilled back at the crib simple as that.

[@KNByam]

How did he lie? He said he didn't want to play with him and Chuck Daly didn't want him on the team.

[@ThatBo03]

Doris should've had the whole segment to herself. She's way more qualified than the two former football players.

[@martinwalker6671]

That was I was thinking they had no business talking. They both said alot of nothing

[@darksideon]

And she said it best when she said that others had a hand in it as well. People want to put all the blame on MJ, but Magic was also someone who didn't want Isiah on the team.

[@hexxdeus6852]

She definitely is not qualified. Matter a fact. I'd rather have a "swordmaster" comment on the fighting progress of a "swordsman"... She doesn't belong in this conversation. Just being honest. Lebron James opinion would be valued a million times over. Let's not even talk about interviewing MAGIC JOHNSON, LARRY BIRD, KAREEM, CHAMBERLAIN, CHARLES OAKLEY, STEVE KURR, KUKOC, ETC... Why are you all(ESPN&OTHERS) trying to force unwanted female commentators down our throats. LEAVE US(MEN/SPORTS) ALONE!!! Don't care for someone telling me about something that they never did themselves.

[@drewhollie6968]

@@hexxdeus6852 : Basketball is basketball and as a former standout on the collegiate level and a possible 1st rd pick who do to injury was unable to make it to the pros, not to mention she has covered this sport for decades , one would say shes more than qualified. A basketball HOFer, she's not just a reporter. She is a former player who is respected around the league and have personal relationships with many of the players past and present including Lebron. You may not want to hear her opinion but those of us who know her true credentials dont mind listening to her insight. This woman has been on the scene since 1991. She's not new to this and she's not being forced down anyone's throat. Side note even at 54 she can still get it so I wouldn't mind the taste if she was...lol

[@willsmith6291]

She's annoying

[@Dano-dn1wb]

Doris was the only necessary take in this segment

[@meuniversity4155]

They all had good takes this time - but yeah.

[@Dano-dn1wb]

Martin McDonald I’m black and I still think the black dude is annoying

[@la-do-ra-ch6810]

So much more to this story?? You mean like Isiah saying that if Bird was black, he'd just be another player? Questioning Magic's sexual orientation? Or how bout the obvious fact that Isiah and the Pistons played dirty and crossed the line many times with fouls that could have ended careers because they couldn't win with pure basketball? Why is Isiah now acting like the victim? These guys didn't just wake up from bed and started disliking Isiah.

[@la-do-ra-ch6810]

@@Stefanjohnchach I understand they squashed it and Im glad they did because I don't dislike Isiah and don't think he's a bad guy. They were actually beefing for a loooooong time and until recently squashed it. My point here was that Isiah is being portrayed as the victim but he was not at all perfect himself. There's a reason they hated him.

[@Losttouchjs]

The Pistons wasn’t a dirty team they were a great defensive team. The Pistons couldn’t touch Jordan without getting a foul call against them so they just adapted to a harder style of play and got their moneys worth! You can’t win back to back championships by being dirty! They were very talented with a incredible defense.

[@kingjohn6278]

Zeke was the boogie man of the nba cus he wasn’t no push over he fight anybody so if u a sucker an u finally get power then of course u ain’t gone invite the boogie man they all was scared of zeke the way I see it the toughest player ever to play in the nba an he was small Jordan a sucker like zeke said when I see these guys they be on my 🥜’s basically straight suckers

[@la-do-ra-ch6810]

@@kingjohn6278 Nobody was sacred of them. They were just upset that they didn't play basketball. Would rather foul people to death.

[@brextonhawk]

Imagine how people would react if leaked footage came out about lebron if a similar situation happened

[@AJ0880]

There’s a lot of dark stuff about LeBron. I mean, a lot. It will all come out in due time.

[@Teke4391]

This is why i say most of the stuff in the last dance is BS. It was all to make MJ look good

[@Julian-rt9qs]

@@AJ0880 hold onto that bitter hope for 25ish years. The docuseries will be ready then

[@2_2_4_3]

LeBron is on PEDs.

[@zero1188]

@@AJ0880 lebron cheats on his wife with white girls that one lowkey secret

[@drgeorgetayloriii4280]

Mrs. Burke - class and smarts; the second reason to watch ESPN right behind Stephen A.

[@alfonsogayman9699]

Stephen A. Smith is a gift to tv. One of the hardest workers on all of TV

[@usmcmikeco0651]

Plus shes dating Drake 😂😂😂😂😂

[@joshuaadams-ri2su]

I’d hit 😛😛😛

[@gamexsimmonds3581]

Doris has a great voice, is always pleasant, knows her stuff and she was a great ball player back in the day

[@brandonhayes8364]

Is this illegal, as far as mj stopping a player from playing in the Olympics? Could Isaiah actually sue mj or rod thorn

[@PrinceH8907]

Give Doris her own show!!!

[@Khanvict08]

It wasnt just Jordan. He was right in saying he didnt leave him off. Because a lot of other ppl also let him off.

[@albolton4974]

He forced they hand tho

[@courtneywhite6036]

@@bballgriotd-e-e-e-troitbba604 Jordan didn't own The Dream Team, The Olympic Committee picks the team not Jordan

[@TeamDaemon1980]

I think Michael Jordan nearly broke into tears because he isn't stupid. He knows he hurt people along the way. He knows he lost friendships by being that way. But that's the price it took at being the best.

[@spideysnakeeyesoptimusfan]

It appears Jordan's recorded statement in 2011, is the opposite of what he said in Last Dance. But, given that many in the NBA, and on the Dream Team, thought the Pistons style of play was bad for basketball, why would the Coach of that Pistons team, that helped orchestrate that style of play, be on the Dream Team? That doesn't make sense to me. And if I'm Daly, I don't take that opportunity. If i was part of creating that style of physically dangerous style of play, and my best player is taking the blam for it, and is excluded from the Dream Team, I'm excluding myself. What's upsetting still, is for years, because of ratings perhaps, the NBA higher ups allowed it. That style of dangerous play, the NBA higher ups should not have allowed. And if the other Dream Teamers thought Pistons Basketball was bad for the game, no Pistons, Coaches and Players, should have been on the Dream Team.

[@gsmantb]

That's a good point about Daley

[@jackzanetti6235]

Roflol. These people are pathetic. Last dance documentary quote "I said who's all playing... The guy you are thinking of isn't going". Who do you think that was referring to? Doesn't matter how it came across the obvious fact was made on the documentary. Mike wasn't playing if Thomas was playing. That being said, why is there blame going around? If it were the other way around, do you think anyone was going to leave Jordan off the team to make sure Thomas had a spot? What is obvious and clear is that the selection process favored Jordan over Thomas. Thomas and you journalists crying over it and trying to find a story makes no difference. It is what it is. There is no blame to go around here. There is no story here. Stop being dramatic

[@kweli05]

Maybe Daly didn't coach them to be that way. Obviously the players who had a problem with Isaiah had no problems with the coach.

[@cb_norwood]

The guy tells MJ in the 2011 tape Chuck doesn't want Isaiah ergot MJ never had to flex any sway on the topic. MJ is a God and you people are insects.

[@amenstal123]

What Opposite ?? In the audio Ron assured MJ that Chuck (Barkley) also doesn't want Isiah, So RON DECIDED that Isiah wouldn't be on the team. WHICH PART SHOWS THAT IT WAS MJ'S DECISION TO EXCLUDE ISIAH ?

[@ShermanSitter]

We need more Doris! So eloquent.

[@stevenbrown6956]

Dominique made a good point that I've thought to myself. Jordan ended up having a good relationship with Chuck Daly, but there is venom towards Isiah. Yes, the Pistons team crossed the line at times, Isiah was the leader, but Chuck was the head coach. There must be something that Isiah did that allows them to embrace Chuck and Dennis Rodman, but have disdain for Isiah. I don't know if it was the all star game freeze out or what.

[@cactaceous]

I think the “Chuck” referred to on the podcast was Charles Barkley, not Daly.

[@raya5090]

Somebody should ask Dennis Rodman

[@jephtahcoe]

The Pistons were haaaaaated bacl then, and they went with that image that everyone and esp the NBA created, and because Isiah wasnt a kissass poster boy like Magic and MJ. I feel the NBA was adamant to make sure Isiah was not there, just like what they did to Allen Iverson in the decade after

[@mrray7169]

@@cactaceous yes he was referring to Barkley on that tape. But Jordan did form a relationship with Daly during that Olympics tho.

[@ryancallsin]

Jephtah Coe players despised the pistons because they were trying to end people’s careers. I would feel worse for Isiah if he took more responsibility. He’s got that huge smile of his but there’s a lot of shadiness behind it. Hes the definition of a snake in the grass.

[@CoDJmic]

Doris is fantastic. I love everything she does and says. I may not have agreed with every word she said, but I agree with how she said and put everything. We need more of her everywhere. She is the G.O.A.T.

[@naymac3]

The GOAT doesn't have to explain anything.

[@WILDDEVIL1425]

MJ ain't the goat.

[@askyourwhoremother3292]

Kenya Kinard let me guess, lebron is the goat? How is he the goat when he’s the one who admitted to “chasing the ghost in Chicago” even your own goat admits to Jordan being the goat 😆😆😆

[@broncobilly4029]

Foxworth asks some good questions. The outrage against the Pistons is certainly selective. I think the reason why Jordan didn't like Isiah Thomas, is because Isiah's team beat Jordan's team regularly.

[@thebestdadeverr]

He threw chuck under the bus.. MJ most credible work 😂😂

[@dmoody4628]

Lmao

[@Jiron127]

It's widely documented about half the team didn't want Isaiah there. Magic, pippen, mj, chuck, bird, malone. Everyone else followed suit. Since they understand chemistry. No mj, possibly ruin's the dream team. So an executive decision was made.

[@thebestdadeverr]

Jiron127 I agree but at the end of the day..come out and say yea I had some to do with it..don’t try deny it..

[@petermendez5184]

Jiron127 Lol....i bet the only person who DIDN'T have a problem with Isaiah Thomas was Christian Laetner 😂

[@brewer921]

They don't address "Chuck doesn't want Isiah ..." That should tell you something about Isiah.

[@chrischance1063]

his relationship with chuck daly went down hill once the players did the walk out vs the bulls. He felt disrespect and felt he lost the team ( felt Isaiah couldn't stopped what happened but he didnt) it made Daly look bad

[@aholmes74ah]

A dead man can't defend himself..

[@edmerc92]

We have no evidence it's true, it's just MJ's word which may be worthless.

[@Jay-n262]

Too bad Chuck's not around to answer if it's true.

[@kvothethebloodless7555]

Actually Jordan said "it wasn't me alone that didn't want Isaiah on the team" he never said he had nothing to do with it...smh come on Greeny

[@jasonbournesburner3845]

Exactly!!!!!!!!

[@eugeneflynn7435]

Thank you! That is my recollection, and “Greeny” should be called out. This whole segment is off base and disappointing.

[@kpro1890]

This...it's not a stark contrast. It is a similar statement. It wasn't Jordan alone.

[@corwinbrown2643]

Exactly!

[@edmerc92]

Jordan said on the documentary that he had nothing to do with the decision. It's clearly a lie. And the thing is, there's no reason to lie about it. Just own up to it MJ.

[@gedrictudio]

Didn't someone correct this that "Chuck" wasn't Daly, but rather Barkley.

[@deadninjastorage6160]

Still confused on which Chuck is what lol

[@mrray7169]

Barkley

[@montazownianr1]

@@mrray7169 No it was Daly not Barkley.

[@therealdewaynewashington]

Right. His coach wanted isaiah they talking about barkley

[@lamonteganaway2322]

Eye thought they corrected it from Barkley to Daly. Win it 1st ran it said Barkley the next day they were saying Daly...idk

[@dalespencer8694]

I've watched the last dance 4 times and was never uncomfortable. The greatest basketball player to have ever lived is not perfect but he sure was on the court.

[@peacefuljourney1849]

Doris looks much younger without TV makeup.

[@SLSMe]

She’s so awesome

[@hasanmuhammad573]

Yeah 53 looks great on her.

[@TheLuscious]

Steve Dhi Awww racist you mad bc she love Black men and the ladies?

[@carltongrant9003]

This is what kills me about Jordan fans. They give the man a pass on EVERYTHING. He lied and got caught, like many people said just own/admit it. If you were big enough to do the act be big enough to take responsibility for it. Just like others in the comments have stated if this was any other player there would be pitchforks and torches.

[@osirishill23]

He said he wouldn’t play if he played but he was told Isiah already wasn’t gonna be on the team because Chuck Daily who is Isiahs own coach didn’t want him on the team

[@georgeorozco4646]

It was Magic Johnson that kept Isaiah Thomas off the the team he said it in his own documentary. There was a riff between Magic & Isaiah that Isaiah insulted Magic. So it was more Magic.

[@lilianalcasid1998]

Carlton Grant, You can't argue with Black Jesus!!!:)))

[@carltongrant9003]

@@lilianalcasid1998 😂😂😂

[@ikeo8666]

NOBODY wanted to play with him. So what's the big deal

[@macewindau3060]

The big deal about it is he lied to protect a false narrative, if he lied about this, what else about the ‘Jordan legend’ is untrue?🤔 flu game??

[@danahill2143]

Dominique Carter Well, apparently it wasn’t the flu, it was “food poisoning”.. But idk

[@drestathagangsta8880]

False. Not everyone on the Dream Team had a problem with Isiah. Drexler, Ewing and Mullin have said they wouldn't have had a problem with him in the team.

[@strauqq1]

@@drestathagangsta8880 You would mention the names who had no Influence.

[@Superaficokings87]

That's not true, Clyde Drexler said he had no problem playing with him, and that other players neither had any problem with him. That interview is here on YT, search it.

[@bigterminator198]

Zeke was a tremendous player but he did things against the top players of the league that absolutely cost him his shot on that team no matter how good he was

[@lavarriley9345]

He beat the golden boys of the NBA bird magic Jordan that's a no no

[@dtimms]

What did he do besides beat them or are you speculating?

[@adamajwadi1546]

For those of us who witnessed the ascent of the Detroit Pistons from a mediocre team to a championship team realize that Isiah Thomas played a significant role in it. However, even though we cheered our home town heroes we knew that they adopted an "by all means necessary" as a tactic and did not rely on pure capability and talent. When Detroit eventually became champions it was not because they were indeed the best team or the most talented team, but because they were the team that would do everything necessary to win including dirty tactics. They knew it and we as fans knew it, but did not really care. Those who love the game knew that Isiah Thomas was a tremendously gifted talent and yet he knew that he had to rely on everyone pushing themselves to the limits to bring a championship to Detroit. So their triumph was that of their will and their willingness to adopt "by all means necessary" attitude. In retrospect the Pistons should admit that they adopted those tactics and have a little more class especially for players like Bill Lambeer. He in particular needs to refine his outlook as a human being. Isiah Thomas should have been included in the so-called "Dream Team" because he was talented despite what he did with his teammates to win a championship. Perhaps it an indictment of American sport culture that allows for dirty tactics to flourish rather than effort, talent and determination. Unfortunately, neither the very talented Isiah Thomas nor Michael Jordan can truly fathom how destructive some of their actions were in their pursuit of championship and the perspective of the human spirit. You can be great without destroying other human beings or make enemies of them. It is when you can win them over that you become great.

[@thereviewartistrrp5493]

What are you talking about. They were physical so what. Rodman was physical as a book but that's cool because he's a bull. All the players did it. Just the pistons did it better. I watched their game. Everybody does what your saying mj, Larry a many more. It's apart of the game. Breaking your opponents down. Pistons just did it better. Mj did it his whole career. But that's cool because he's a scoring maniac. Guard him stop him. Triple team him. Smother the offense. It's all legal. As lso look up the basketball definition of dirty because cause I don't think you understand what it means. You make it sound like they were cheating.

[@dbsti3006]

There's a documentary that covers this. Nobody on that team wanted Thomas or Laimbeer on that team. They were called Bad Boy Pistons for a reason. Thomas was a dirty dirty player. Jordan, Pippen, Bird, etc all said they would not play on the team if Thomas was there. They didn't like him for a reason.

[@andrebelfon6738]

That’s a good point. That question should be asked.

[@sandmaniv]

Well... look at it this way - Chuck could've said "I'm not coaching if Isiah isn't on the team"... but he didn't.

[@bando44anderson58]

Not shaking hands back then was disrespect Jordan shook hands everytime he lost

[@cordellnash6848]

Boston NEVER shook hands with no one what r u talking about

[@tjofwakanda8027]

Sooo how you feel about larry bird? whom said out his own mouth thats just how things were done back then. Now all of a sudden MJ says its wrong the bball world shuts dow .

[@davidmcdonald9412]

Well they all ready told MICHAEL THAT they had all ready decided that isiah Thomas was not going to be apart of the dream team so MICHAEL did not have to do or say anything it was all ready decided FOR him I rest my case

[@AnanseSavage]

@@davidmcdonald9412 your case is full of holes .. Jordan was the reason .. point blank period and he lied

[@TopFanTV]

@@cordellnash6848 but the point is that Jordan shook their hands the past 2 years when the knocked him out of the playoffs. Now when its the Bulls turn, they walk off like cowards.

[@eugenemangune]

Isiah: this is personal Jordan: u not included Skip: jordan is right, i was there

[@youngharrio]

😂😂😂

[@omnitheus5442]

How come I never saw Skip in The Last Dance. Saw other media personalities plenty. But not him.

[@BruteStrength99]

@@omnitheus5442 because he only covered them the 98 season. I do remember Skips column in the Union Tribune. I'm from Chicago. I was a paperboy at that time.

[@Elemenopi23]

Skip was there for everything with zero footage of him in it.

[@BruteStrength99]

@@Elemenopi23 you're talking about what you see. The question is what you read? Skip was a print reporter until 2000. From the rumble in the jungle to the last dance. You'll find his articles in all the papers he worked for. You don't believe me. Go to your university library and access their microfiche. Look for Chicago Union Tribune 1998. I bet you find his columns. I know because I read them after every Bulls game. I read them during the Home Run chase between McGuire and Sosa. Just look and you'll see

[@bobfranklin9895]

Im sick of hearing about this, let the BS go, get over it.

[@MicrolineC1]

It makes good controversy, and that's what they like. Let's move forward. It's like watching re-runs, we already know the outcome! Thank you! Mic'20

[@xordus]

oh, so now that the truth is out there and MJ looks like a massive douchebag, you're tired of it. lmao

[@PeterSolarchannel]

Isiah Thomas is underappreciated because of Michael Jordan.

[@koreypaul6698]

How?

[@unapologetic6627]

Korey Paul He’s a troll ignore him

[@Blodia1990]

He is bro. Preach. People hate him.

[@thefirefactory4969]

As a Jordan fan I must say fact. Dude is literally Chris Paul father but get no love. Easily arguably one of the best point guards to lace up

[@ryansproviero]

ESPN clearly decided to let MJ say what he wants and then circle back for more content by correcting the nonsense ESPN allowed him to say.

[@B.Piercesports]

Truth

[@JPMoron]

Good point! If they didn't, they wouldn't have the documentary.

[@danrod3790]

Thank you. ESPN played MJ. He finally fail into this social media trap.

[@ruthchukwuezi3124]

Or Mj is just a liar lol stop blaming everyone but Jordan

[@danrod3790]

@@ruthchukwuezi3124 Or maybe ESPN is trying to stay relevant.

[@305Solo]

I got no idea who these dudes are but I know that’s Doris the 🐐 and that’s what I’m here for. As for Jordan, he didn’t ban Thomas from the Dream Team, he just left the choice in the team managements hands, there’s a difference

[@AW-vf2du]

The big thing the Media and some People are Missing is on this tape Jack McCallum reports that when Rod Thorn says to Jordan Chuck doesn't Want Isiah on the Team....ITS ACTUALLY CHARLES BARKLEY....Not Chuck Daly the coach....So why are they not asking Barkley about it? As it seems it Was several players Beside Jordan who Didn't want Isiah on the Dream Team.

[@coleeason6007]

True story but we all know who was gonna be in the biggest spotlight on the world stage no Mike why even have the dream team bird was washed up magic wasnt even in the league and my lord I never dreamed of a team that had Stockton and not Zeke

[@davidhues1304]

This guy looks like the villain in Undercover Brother 😂

[@htownblack9184]

Bruhhhhhhh😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I just watched that

[@TheCowboysfan2010]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😭😭

[@Ahmedaphor]

😂🤣😅😆😁

[@L.B.ChoChasers]

Doris Burke is beyond amazing to me. And she's really beautiful... I've had a crush on her since I was a kid. Nothing has changed. Beauty, smarts, and class personified

[@andreellis2167]

This is so funny! It is well known to basketball fans from that era that Michael Jordan said " If Isiah Thomas is on the Dream Team, I'm not going to play". We also know that he was the last person to agree to do the Dream Team AND Bird, Magic, Pippen, Malone, Robinson and even Chuck Daily didn't want Zeke either! So when MJ says I had nothing to do with holding Isiah off he's telling the truth. The NBA chose MJ over Isiah Thomas.

[@yuhstation938]

As a Chicago Native - i didn’t know isiah was from Chicago until a few years ago 😂

[@devinsmart1547]

Jordan got his with them receipts😂 how you gonna lie about this knowing you did a podcast telling the truth

[@marimartell3498]

He probably forgot its was a while ago, but them receipts don't lie.

[@unapologetic6627]

When he said that Isaiah was already off the team magic didn’t want him on the team along with other players🤷🏾‍♂️

[@jaredmeyers4159]

@@unapologetic6627 yeah.. ok...

[@BicMichuM]

Half of that team prob didnt want isiah there lol

[@brianmcghee3597]

9 years ago and forgot. Loose lips sunk ships.

[@TeamDaemon1980]

Episode 7 has this underrated quote from MJ. He said he tried getting Scott Burrell to fight him a couple times. Never could. MJ with the biggest smile says, "He's such a nice guy."

[@Aj4youtube]

Only reason this is a thing is because there’s no audio of Magic and Bird saying the same thing but we all know they agreed.

[@mattmat74]

5:10 and that’s the problem, the US National team wasn’t MJ’s personal hand picked squad. Not to mention the fact that if Isiah would’ve selected for the team, I’m like 99% most of his “issues” with those guys would’ve been squashed. Or at the least these fools wouldn’t still hate each other 30 years later.

[@stargellwilliams1311]

What's the big deal,a lot of guys said they didn't want Isaiah to play,magic,Byrd,Barkley,karl etc. Isaiah and some of the pistons rubbed people the wrong way and it cost him,even thou he deserved to be on the team,it happened,its over,move on people.

[@bwololo7469]

Even though Mj and Isiah had their own beef at the time.I think Magic johnson wasn't cool with sharing the spotlight with Isiah.

[@stephenstrange4031]

The real problem is if Isiah is in, Jordan, Pippen, Magic are prob all out; and if Magic is out Bird is out. So who would you choose, Isiah or those 4. It's a no-brainer

[@letmegetuhhh3959]

It wasn't just Jordan though, a lot of guys there didn't want zeke on the team. This is a situation where guys are all near each other, practicing and playing together, you don't want a guy you don't like to break up the dynamic

[@kabook4000]

It's not about the handshake, it's about the pistons were out to hurt people, and as the leader iasaiah paid the price. Hey that's what's happens when you're the best player , you pay the price. He should be blaming his pistons team mates

[@kylewilliams4691]

She doesn't have Covid-19 anymore

[@nomy23DH]

She never had it.

[@_HMCB_]

Mike Palacios what makes you think that?

[@MF-Rell]

@@_HMCB_ he doesn't know

[@TeamDaemon1980]

Michael Jordan and Mike Tyson... We will never see another athlete like them ever again. 🌪 🌪

[@08havoc08]

Why Mike Tyson?

[@Ttcw89]

Lewd because his tenacity.. aggression, doing anything it took to win. Mainly the killer instinct 😤

[@S_Blitz]

Kobe Bryant was

[@mpix00]

Yes we will, and someone greater will come along.

[@tthomas3427]

I can say the same thing about several other athletes @Pat4Clippers

[@usmcmsgt5487]

Even Chuck Daly said he does NOT want Isiah Thomas who was his coach but no one is talking about that hahaha

[@I_AmBoom]

Happy to see that Doris is well

[@andresrosa6313]

I always believe that no one on the team wanted Isiah Thomas on the Dream Team. Not Magic, not Bird, no even Karl Malone who elbow Isiah in December 91.... no one wanted Isiah on the team.

[@fb7881]

From what I heard MJ say on that recording, it sounds to me like the decision was already made before this particular conversation even took place. So you're right! no one wanted him on the team. There's nothing contradictory here.

[@dedbeet5845]

Even Ewing commented about Thomas being left off the team because of the importance of team chemistry.

[@tlest1993]

I don't blame MJ! The last time he played on a team with Isaiah Thomas, he held MJ to 6 points, because he was jealous of the spotlight that MJ was getting, and not wanting to pass MJ the ball. Isaiah Thomas plotted against MJ with other players, just like he did when they refused to shake the Bulls player's hand. Isaiah Thomas, caused this on himself. Some people can dish out, but can take it when it's done to them.

[@fb7881]

He played with fire and got burnt. Now he cries.

[@ericellis1806]

Isiah

[@hellothere-us7iw]

MJ just took the heat of banning IT from dream team even though it was magic who didn't want IT on the team. MJ probably respects magic enough to take all the blame all those years. It was very clear on magic documentary

[@TheJoJoLM]

hello there REALLY! Here are the videos that plainly states who is at fault and you make your own narrative and change the truth. If you think that the statement Jordan made didn't keep Isiah off the dream team and that it was Magic and his hatred, then you're delusional. Jordan had way more CLOUT than Magic.

[@corwinbrown2643]

The decision to keep Isaiah Thomas off the dream team was predetermined before Jordan talked to Rod Thorn that's what he was saying ! He was going to say it but chuck daly already had made that decision.

[@Michigan_dad]

Chuck didn’t want him on the team? Mike didn’t want him? Magic didn’t want him. Isiah no one wanted him on the team.

[@MalikEKC]

I wish everyone on the Dream team would just get it 100 and say they didn't want him on the team because they didn't like him.

[@286mic]

Is there a full audio of the podcast? I wanna hear it in context of the entire interview.

[@coleeason6007]

What context goofy mafuka he made a statement that's the context I'm not playing if he is

[@davidelsea1296]

He still didn't keep him off the dream team. The organization just made a business decision on this one. Would we rather have MJ or Isiah?

[@shaneryan6245]

That decision only had to be made because Jordan brought it up

[@derrion9041]

Shane Ryan but it still wasn't his decision to make. Blame the staff. Not Mj

[@perotal]

@@derrion9041 then why didn't he say "I gave them an ultimatum and ultimately they made the final call' ? Stop trying to find excuses for MJ

[@Metasota]

perotal facts

[@mikediao15]

@@perotal He said it either Isaiah or me..... They had decision to make.... They could have kept Barkely, Magic, Jordan, Scottie, Bird and Chuck Daly out of the team because they didn't want Isaiah on the team too...

[@nunyabusiness1045]

Doris Burke is a beautiful legend and I absolutely love her work ethic and professionalism

[@codered2475]

Facts bro!

[@adetola1000]

Doris Burke OG!!!!! Her first comment answered the question entirely

[@martinjackson895]

So did nobody see the dream team documentary? Jordan, Pippen, Drexler, Magic and a few more of them said they didn't necessarily want Zeke on the team.

[@h.s936]

False....Drexler and a few other players did not have a problem with Isiah at least not to that extreme extent. This is all Micheal and I believe no other players said yes or nay.

[@paulthomson9709]

Why does the blame for this all fall on jordan ? No body on the team liked isaiah Thomas,.even the coach never wanted him on team , and it was pistons coach !

[@chrishiggs9196]

Because mj mj lied and said that he didn't have no part in keeping Isaiah off the dream team. But he did. And according to other players he did a lot of lying in those videos lol

[@corwinbrown2643]

He said it was predetermined before he talked to Rod Thorn that Isaiah Thomas wasn't going to be on the dream team.

[@johnmorggan619]

When Doris speaks, I listen!

[@virada630]

Well said DORIS that’s what u called real unbiased comment.

[@swagswagize]

He technically didn't lie. He said he wouldn't play if Isiah was on the Dream Team but from what was said, it seems like it was already decided that he wouldn't be on the team.

[@chaposupreme2090]

If it’s was already decided why would he still have to have a convo with the committee after the fact? It wasn’t decided they wanted to know his opinion and his was that he wouldn’t play you think they gonna risk not having the face of the league for the second best PG at the time especially when Goat PG Magic is there.

[@MrStevegibb]

@@chaposupreme2090 Don't be thick they called him to ask him to be on the team he asked them if IT would be on the team because he didnt want to play with him they then told him that he already wasn't going to be on the team.

[@kevinthompson4290]

I could have swear I heard MJ say I didn't have anything to do with it but you can blame me

[@MrSmith-fl2jn]

Him and Isaiah pretty much did the same thing but Jordan is worshipped and Isaiah is vilified why is that?

[@adamsamuel8593]

@@MrSmith-fl2jn Isiah was not the face of the league, plus Jordan in his mind didn't think he had done anything to stop him (Isiah) from getting on the team. I'm sure Pippen, Barkley, Bird all said the same, where are their recordings, but its nice to see the media has already influenced or fooled you about trying to see MJ as a bad person. Don't forget Isiah works with the media, so between him and Jordan they gonna protect or try to make him look good while MJ who hardly speaks to the media, they would find little things to make him look bad.

[@fluffyausomearcadebaseball1730]

The last dance is just tearing people apart it's absolutely disgusting how ESPN has no problem making fights between people just to make money

[@jsmoo1206]

Saying not shaking a hand after a game isnt that serious, says a lot about us.

[@buschg7106]

Soooooooo we're supposed to believe that jocks AREN'T azzholes? 🤣🤣🤣 OF COURSE they're hating on one another.

[@readyswish4341]

Not lebron 🤷‍♂️💯🤦‍♂️

[@gamexsimmonds3581]

@@readyswish4341 Why is everyone always bringing up Lebron Like please can we talk about basketball and not mention him. This is about Isiah being left off the 1992 dream team Lebron was like 8 Why being him up

[@dman3145]

Why has everyone had such a hard time saying that Jordan is a liar

[@troyduffie3836]

Derrick Winding because they fear him. He’ll make it personal like everything else.

[@MeMyselfI_69]

Well...... He didn't tell anyone not to get Isiah on the Dream Team he just said he wouldn't play with him.

[@malcolmmuhammad7993]

Mike didnt say i dont want Isiah on the team.... He said im not playing if Isiah is on the team.....

[@samjacob1310]

Wasn’t there the Dream Team documentary that went more in depth with this situation?

[@thedefinitionisthis]

The Dream Team doc didn't go into that much depth either. They kinda danced around it, showing footage of Chuck Daly basically saying "Isiah is a great player, and I'm sure he's hurt by it... but he wasn't selected."... The only one in that doc who outright said he didn't want Isiah on the team was Scottie Pippen. When asked if Michael wanted Zeke on the team, Scottie said, "I don't wanna speak for Michael, but I don't think he wanted him on the team". The book about the Dream Team that came out a few years ago went into more depth. While Michael was probably the end-all, be-all, other members weren't exactly welcoming either. Bird and Isiah had been rivals in the East; Magic & Isiah had a falling-out; Karl Malone definitely wasn't a fan of his. End of the day, Michael was the one the higher-ups wanted, and prioritized him. If Zeke was on the team, that never would've happened. It sucks, but that's just the case.

[@ashishsharma3049]

Jordan on court greatness always comes to the rescue to his off and on court pettiness.

[@peterstark4562]

@TheRealist 811 yeah. I dont care about his personality. I only watched his bec of his game.

[@petergianakopoulos4926]

30 years ago and now its being litigated in the media.

[@DB800187]

Whoever was the reason he was left off the team.......Thank you!!!!!!

[@TheBLACKSTARmovement]

Doris is back!!!

[@caioma87]

honestly, regardless what MJ actually said, what I took home from the last dance more than anything else was that MJ wasn't the only one who didn't want Isiah on the team... he lied though, no doubt about that

[@TopFanTV]

Nobody wanted to play with Isiah. Charles Barkley came out and said he didn't want to play with him either.

[@macewindau3060]

TopFanTV that’s irrelevant, what the topic is about is how MJ lied

[@TopFanTV]

Dominique Carter He did lie but it just points out he wouldn’t have made the team anyway.

[@MrStevegibb]

@@TopFanTV no he didn't he just was very hesitant to elaborate on the conversation he did insinuate that he didn't want to play if a certain player was going to be there and that the guys own coach said he already wasn't coming anyway.

[@rubyfranklin9322]

He didnt lie he said if Isiah play on the team then he wasn't going to play.....that was someone else decision to leave Isiah off....right?

[@Kig_Ama]

We need another 10 part documentary with another perspective on the last dance. ESPN should go for it, a lot of money can be made.

[@dariusdamoane-trichome1428]

If you really think about it, Jordan said he wouldn't play if Isiah Thomas is on the team, but he never said he didn't want Isiah Thomas on the Dream Team. Rod Thorn could have put Isiah on the team and Jordan would have just not played.

[@georgeorozco4646]

In Magic Johnson's documentary he said that, he was the one that kept Isaiah Thomas from the dream tream. Sure, there was more other decision makers. But Magic was a bigger influence then MJ. Isaiah is like alittle mouse.

[@ogboruoyibo4304]

Your syntax, grammar and punctuation are out of order. You shouldn't be putting out comments in public until you've fixed them.

[@jasonbournesburner3845]

George correct, Chuck and Magic and few others started it. Mj did not start it. People in their feelings again about something 30 years ago..smh

[@JonDoe-fo3kl]

In video it says chuck(charles barkley) didnt want him either

[@jeffness88]

@Oasis people over react like they are Zeke' wife or his btch trying to bring up 30+ years Dream Team story.. Its not like history will change and Zeke will be included in the team if they keep on ranting. Media specially MJ haters causes toxicity by brainwashing people twisting facts so they can only sell like the infamous 3-6 mafia media LeSPN 🤣🤣🤣

[@MicrolineC1]

You know what, Magic did get rid of Norm Nixon, so he could be the point guard, just after the Lakers beat the 76ers. And the coach. Facts and Politics! Mic'20 PS but I guess that small compare to the Olympics.

[@bando44anderson58]

He didn't have nothing to do with it, Jordan said if he plays he won't. It's up to coaches and Ron thorn to override him

[@icebox6708]

Dominique! You’re killing me with the “MJ is so petty”. Stop! You have no idea what it’s like to be in MJs shoes. Other factors were involved. Who are you again Dominique? Please!

[@Mentallect]

David Robinson said he didn't want Isiah on the team: Karl, MJ, Bird, Magic all against Isiah. Either you think they are all petty, or Isiah made his bed.

[@pnvgordinho]

Doesn't a person have the right to say "if he plays, I won't" ?.

[@moses9647]

Definitely.. just don't lie about it lol

[@eugenemangune]

It is all about the lie

[@corwinbrown2643]

He didn't lie he said he was going to say it but Chuck Daly had already made that decision!

[@thebrazilianflyer9470]

Doris the real 🐐

[@KokoTheGorilla69]

She looks like one

[@81ghale]

It sounds like Barkley is the one who is responsible now lol

[@luciousthomas6141]

Wow we already knew MJ, Magic, Bird, Karl Malone and Pippen didn't want him on the team, but his own coach Chuck Daly! Something is up here?!

[@EricK-ir8np]

Isiah is a SNAKE!!!! Talking behind Magic's back, and they were supposed to be friend's!! Alot of those guys didn't like him

[@josephwhiteside2739]

That was Magic's Agent who said that.

[@barrydavis331]

@Mike Studmuffin That coach told him to do it to take out his frustration AND it wasn't an actual choke with pressure. The facts have been told about it on live TV.

[@ericellis1806]

Barry Davis facts

[@clay9333]

Karl Malone was talking about Magic and his HIV behind his back and saying ignorant things about it in the media. That didn’t keep Malone off the team. MJ didn’t want Zeek on the team because Isiah is only one year older and his record against Jordan is 37-16. That’s really why. But of course Jordan would never admit it.

[@ericellis1806]

Clay exactly 👍🏿

[@Marlon-zn8vh]

Why do they keep saying that MJ got Isiah of the dream team, when he was selected in the first place. Nobody wanted him on the team

[@isa-veraswan]

This just showed up in my recommended videos in KZbin recently. I emphasize that I am not an expert in basketball/NBA, but I did watch that 80s & 90s era. I do know that I don't think anyone among the 11 NBA players on that Dream Team wanted Isaiah to be a part of the team. Michael's opinion on the matter is just highlighted because he has always been transparent about how he felt about Zeke. The others weren't talking to the press about how they felt about Zeke, but anybody could tell they are not comfortable with him. Also, I just want to put it out there... NOT shaking someone's hand/hands after losing a game is a big deal. Zeke & the Pistons were very unsportsmanlike by doing that. I don't think I've ever seen a losing team in the professional level doing that other than them. It was also significant because the Pistons were the defending champions at that time. I mean, a championship caliber team like that acting like kids when they end up not being able to defend their crown??? That's just horrible2x attitude. If I were the NBA commissioner at that time, I would have stripped them of their 1990 championship title. It doesn't matter who Zeke and the Pistons did it to-- whether it was the Bulls or the team with the worst record, you just don't do stuff like that as a professional team. So, NO. IT WASN'T A LITTLE THING. If you can consider that a little thing, well I guess the generation today have just really gone to the dogs.

[@stevenoconnell6297]

I could care less about all this but how is it in contrast? He said he didn’t have anything to do with him not being on the team. The other audio just emphasizes that by saying that the decision was made by other people in spite of Michael’s opinions.

[@TeamDaemon1980]

After Jordan dies and who knows when because all of us can go at any time and he finally has his eternal sleep, I can imagine the whole world will mourn. Horace Grant will cry his eyes too. Deep down, Horace loves Mike.

[@y1521t21b5]

All _BS_ when either says they hold no grudges against the other. About time they sat down to a one-on-one. The ratings would rival a good boxing bout or _MMA_ fight ;-)

[@JayNJayNews]

Agreed.

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

Nope, sometimes people don’t like each other. Life goes on. They were never friends and it’s nobody’s business why. Maybe people should let those men goon their way.

[@philipbenhardb.velasco369]

No chance that will happen though XD

[@druken.hyper.snyper6201]

It sounds like that the decision was already made prior to Jordan even making that comment. If his own Coach didn't want him it's clear he possibly wouldn't make the team.

[@oroxil]

The problem isn’t that Jordan didn’t want Isaiah on the team. It’s that he lies about it instead of being a stand-up guy and admitting it. He should own his actions. If you want to be considered the GOAT, then you man up and accept the good, bad, and ugly of who you are and what you’ve done.