Bayesian Builder Makes Bold Claims after NYTimes Lawsuit | SY News Ep403

[@CeciliaTan]

I'm glad you told us you're taking a break. Otherwise we'd suspect The Italian Sea Group was having you silenced!

[@kylem324]

They found his downflooding angle!

[@fitnessandinjury]

@@kylem324 And sent a giant octopus

[@davidg3944]

@@fitnessandinjury I have it on good authority that it was an undercooked calamari that did the deed.

[@flua1508]

My exact thought, too!!

[@johnanon6938]

I wouldn't be worried because The Italian Sea Group would bumble that just like they bumbled yacht designs and Bayesian discussions which just make them look guilty as all heck now.

[@wilsonowen1731]

They don't know much about damage control. Their initial reaction should have been all about compassion for the people who died - not indignantly claiming the crew were at fault and the boat was unsinkable. And they should then have said they would co-operatate fully with the investigation and await the outcome of the inquiry before commenting further. Filing lawsuits all over the place (including the widow of the Bayesian owner FFS!), and against anyone suggesting there may have been design faults is damaging their brand, not helping it.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

I don't think anyone will dare buy a boat from them again!

[@AdeboFunkyVoodoo]

Nonsense.

[@brigidlaffey7343]

The Widow ’is’ the Owner.

[@kylem324]

The even crazier thing is that they didn’t construct the boat and only bought the brand assets out of bankruptcy. Which would mean they had no liability, and they could say boats built under their ownership have been to exacting standards.

[@donaldcplaird2037]

Totally agree

[@scottwilliams7535]

Never apologize for taking time off, hope you enjoy it!

[@perpetualgrin5804]

Any idiot can make money, you are rich if you have time.

[@masterwatch]

agree, you are working a lot do rest.

[@flua1508]

Fully agree! Please take a rest, well deserved!!

[@knechtsand3178]

Take a rest to reload your batteries. Good and interesting journalism is hard to find!

[@barbarapohle4648]

Enjoy your well deserved time off 😊

[@aaronharrison4089]

Enjoy your break , much deserved 👍

[@VanillaMacaron551]

Matey, I say take off some time - from both jobs - until after Christmas! We could look forward to a 2-3 month wrap of events from you in the new year. All the best, love your work. ⛵

[@katrinabillings7011]

Enjoy your well deserved break. Thanks :)

[@theguycalledgerald]

Who else hopes for the giant octopus though...

[@timdunn2257]

Please don't disappear mysteriously. Be careful!

[@thesuremen]

agree

[@RalphFreeman-ok5of]

Burn out can have long term implications for health, so enjoy your break and chill out. I know from experience that is easier said than done. Thanks for the channel which is well known for it's common sense and knowledgeable content.

[@Joe_1sr9]

‘Our boat is unsinkable and it’s not at the bottom of the sea’. !!

[@mohammednadeemanwar2213]

It will be at the scrappers instead!

[@lc285]

Yep. That's the bottom line.

[@snapperboat25]

Kind of like the country I live in. Thanks Trump.

[@stickler6312]

@@snapperboat25 So what does Trump have to do with it? Please explain.

[@snapperboat25]

It’s a sort of metaphor. He sunk the “ship” that America used to be. It came back up. But now it’s going down for good.

[@superiff12]

Have great break, you do an awesome job sticking up for the crew, you also open up a world the majority of us will never glimpse and it’s forever interesting, horrifying and intriguing, don’t let them get you down.

[@wendygerrish4964]

Aye aye.

[@arribaficationwineho32]

Poor representation by PR

[@gerardwhite6406]

Old boat rigger here, crossed the pond half dozen times back in the day, Would occasionally see bits of unsinkable boats. They haven't changed then?

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Some have, they lost altitude..

[@jupitorious7925]

Yes mainly Beneteau or Jeanneau yachts ! Loosing their keels or rudders

[@xsleep1]

The Italian Sea Group seems to never have heard of the legal discovery process (now that you have brought suit open up all your files so we can have them reviewed by experts) or the Streisand effect for that matter. This is not going to go well for them I predict.

[@jonathanj8303]

Depends where the case is actually being held. When Danish Railways sued Ansaldo Breda (an italian train builder) the judge awarded 'victory' to ansaldo because 'losing might damage their reputation'. Yes, that's part of the point...

[@PrekKola]

@@jonathanj8303 from where do you have that?

[@jonathanj8303]

@@PrekKola my mistake - it wasn't DSB, it was when NS first sued Ansaldo over the V250 'Frya' trains, which they were eventually forced to take back. 2009, I think. Sorry about the mixup, a lot of people were suing Ansaldo Breda at that point.

[@barnettmcgowan8978]

The the NYT is only sold in the US and only has assets in the US, they are almost certainly going to have to sue in the US. This means discovery is on. This is a huge mistake.

[@douglayman]

Geeze If a giant octopus sinks a super yacht we have a whole slew of problems! 😂 Enjoy your break sir and thank you for the impeccable reporting.

[@timdunn2257]

An event that the builder hopes for - it wasn't our fault - it was unsinkable.

[@johnanon6938]

Their yacht design was giant octopus proof! It must've been the crew, and the owners, and the people who hired the crew, and the newspapers, and the marine standards organizations fault. 😆😆😆

[@janetkennedy5940]

Only a week! You deserve more of a break - enjoy it, you truly earned it. Don't worry we'll all be here when you get back. This channel is amazing.

[@Sean006]

I thought he was going to say '6 months'!!

[@HuskyTheDog2202]

I thought it would be three weeks. I’m out on burnout, very difficult to get back.

[@Phantom-mk4kp]

It should have had automatic vent closers set at 42 degrees. I believe our offshore lifeboats are equiped that way, as they can roll right over safely

[@woki-toki3988]

yes why wouldn't it have automatic closing at 42 degrees?

[@davidorf3921]

Agreed, the moment you make those vents remote rather than automatic it becomes dependant on a member of the crew being able to operate them in time, the lifeboat vents are automatic (and the vessels are self righting) because they assume that in a crisis the people responsible for operating the lifeboat might be incapacitated in some way such as being thrown off balance when the boat suddenly heels over to 43 degrees without warning.

[@TrappedinSLC]

@@davidorf3921 Also with a sailboat if you actually have a proper knockdown it's entirely possible a human won't be able to respond quickly enough. If you read reports of knockdowns that have happened to other sailing vessels (admittedly mostly a lot smaller) they're not slow gradual things, they're very rapid.

[@testboga5991]

Indeed, but the closers were never meant to guard against a sudden roll. They were probably only intended to be closed if they wanted to sail. The main thing that sank this ship was still the weather.

[@Phantom-mk4kp]

@@testboga5991 With such a low safe keel angle it should have been equipped with automatic closers, that is my point. It was designed to be 'unsinkable', didn't put much effort in, did they. I bet they didn't skimp on the Italian marble and exotic hardwoods

[@douglassimms6218]

Thanks!

[@adriaba790]

Only a week? You deserve more...we'll all be here waiting for you , enjoy your break!!!👏🏻👏🏻

[@kiki__21]

All of their actions are only hurting their reputation. Who would ever buy a yacht from them after all this?

[@kylem324]

If you’re fantastically wealthy, have a terminal illness, dislike your spouse and wish to saddle them with a bunch of nonsense after your passing, TISG has the yacht for you! (Probably a small niche)

[@TrappedinSLC]

Right? Not that I'm rich, but if I was and there was an incident and the first thing you did was blame everyone else and deny any possibility of fault and not express sympathy for the people lost, I am taking my money and going elsewhere. That is not the behavior of a company that actually wants to build the best. All they had to do was say "we believe our boats are built to the highest possible standards but we welcome an investigation into this incident and will cooperate fully to establish if there was anything we could have done differently or any different advice we should be giving our owners going forward about crew training" or some such PR statement.

[@barnettmcgowan8978]

@@TrappedinSLC 👍

[@brentengle7302]

I would, however I would not take an existing design and modify it radically as was the case here as well as many other documented cases.

[@nbrettoner]

Enjoy your short well-deserved break, and don't be afraid to take more time/breaks; as needed/desired, in the future. We're not going anywhere, and will be patiently good waiters happily doing so (waiting), until you get back to us again. All your content holds a very high professional standard as is well worth awaiting. 😇

[@alexandruraresdatcu]

What a shitshow, the Italians prefer to hire lawyers instead of engineers to fix the problem on their ships.

[@CydeWeys]

This lawsuit isn't gonna work out at all. Good luck suing a mainstream US media outlet for doing standard reporting, lol. Doesn't work over here like it works over there.

[@adelaferreira4575]

So what else is new ?

[@theheresiarch3740]

I really wish these big companies dedicated as much time to proving they're the best through good end results as they do to squawking about being the best and threatening anyone who says otherwise. It's in every industry at this point and it's gotten completely absurd.

[@AdeboFunkyVoodoo]

What problems on their ships?

[@j.dunlop8295]

Money, lawyers go after where the money is , especially if they have judges in their pockets?

[@Jedi.Toby.M]

take ALL the time you want, Thanks for your work!....Cheers!

[@antjem2169]

Thanks for this update on the Bayesian yacht. Enjoy your week off: better take two weeks to properly rest and recover!

[@Donald_Shaw]

You deserve a week off and I hope you enjoy it with your Mrs. Thanks so much for all the great information you provide your viewers.

[@dodystiller3718]

Wishing you happy holidays, you really need and deserve it! And don't worry if you need to extend it, we'll be hanging around for your great reporting anyway, no matter how long it takes 😊! Enjoy and relax xxx

[@brennersydney]

Take all the time you need !! Clearly your reports are so thorough that you must be spending significant time to research, investigate, consolidate and summarize for us, and obviously that takes time. I am sure your ratio of prep to publish is close to a good 10 !!! Thanks for your time and your sharing

[@Ayns.L14A]

Have a great holiday mate, relax, enjoy. we'll be here when you get back..

[@eus9]

Enjoy your time off, and you really don't need to explain yourself to us viewers - you owe us nothing! Thanks for the Bayesian update!

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

THANKS 🤗 ESYSMAN,FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK 😅, WE HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR BREAK AND GET ENOUGH REST,SEE YOU WHEN YOU GET BACK 👋💚💚💚

[@markharman9814]

Enjoy your time off! We appreciate your channel.

[@j.angelis6934]

We love you, esysman! Enjoy your well-deserved time off.. seems pretty obvious , even without investigative confirmation , with the yachts vanishing angle of 42.7 ° In combination with 30 extra tons of ballast ... and open HVAC with operationally open generator exhaust ports on the starboard side... the yacht would sink catastrophically when that strong and unexpected weather and wind event struck the doomed yacht. You can't blame the crew or Captain when they are following protocols under those conditions... Had the yacht been designed with automatic closures that close the venting systems when the vanishing angle was reached, we probably wouldn't be discussing this really tragic event.

[@fabioprimaio8503]

vanishing angle of Amerigo Vespucci is less than 30° , just now she coming back from Japan

[@kateashleigh2529]

Enjoy your break and thanks for giving us information

[@davisnewman8278]

enjoy your time off. It is much deserved.👍

[@fredericsicre-yh7ji]

Please enjoy your time off and thanks for all you do for those of us trying to understand what happened to the Bayesian... cheers!

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Take more than a week...we will wait.

[@STUDERRG]

Hello E Sysman. Great video as usual. - Have a blissfully recovering vacation. See you soon!

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Thank you for the thoughtful and detailed report! Enjoy your vacation!

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Thank you for your amazing comtemt as always, enjoy your break you deserve way more than ome week. Enjoy

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Bravo - well done as usual. Enjoy your holiday.

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Enjoy your time off my friend you certainly earned it!

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Have a good break, go take it easy, cheers!!

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[@bobansak2583]

Enjoy your time off. Imo, a week doesn't seem like a long enough break. ; - / I suggest maybe taking a week or several day breaks more often, in lieu of a longer break? I remember "having to do this" when skippering for certain owners.

[@alexmarsh1098]

Your facial expression after TISG’s comment was just perfect 🤌

[@csjrogerson2377]

If you have ever been in Command of Italian built superyachts as I have (3) and been to Italian yards (3), you will understand completely. There are several very good reasons why I went to a yard in Mallorca for several maintenance periods.

[@PieterMunsterman]

Take all the time you need, enjoy!

[@gillianhatters6613]

Thanks for all the information. It is clear that you work very hard to keep us updated on the sinking of the Bayesian. Relax and enjoy your break and we will look forward to hearing from again when you are back at work

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Love your channel!!!!!

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Fascinating..... I appreciate your reportage on the Bayesian sinking. Have a good break.

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Thanks for being so honest and ...sober:) Go have fun ❤

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I do enjoy your channel, thanks and emjoy your break

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Great videos as always. Enjoy your time off, you deserve it.

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Thank you so much for all your excellent work on this channel! Enjoy your break!!!

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Thank you for your honest reporting! And have a good vacation!

[@kimward5746]

I am glad that you told us of your break. Glancing at the comments, it looks like I'm not the only one that would worry about you and be needing updates! You do such a good job and you represent all the integrity that anyone could hope for in any field. I hope you have a wonderful time off, eat wonderful food, and come back with some boat jokes.

[@QualityCraftsmen]

Enjoy the vacation!

[@dustyrhodes8147]

Enjoy your break, you deserve it.

[@jonathanscott550]

Well the new Bayesian Yacht builder does have a point. Since the boat was built in I think you said 2007/2008 it has nowt to do with the new ownership. And by what the NY times is saying and not mentioning this new ownership makes Bayesian look guilty. I did not know about this new owner ship or even when Bayesian was built, but with this new information I've a complete 180 in my thoughts. Unfortunate about the deaths, but now it must be found out who is actually at fault over all of this. I know you'll keep us informed thanks for update

[@Pali65]

"Yacht attacked by giant octopus" - made my day. 😅 Enjoy your vacation!

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Enjoy your time off, well deserved!

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Thanks for your continuing objective and professional reporting. Enjoy your time off!

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Very informative, thank you, and enjoy your leave!

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Love the word "Leave" being used. Reminds me of my Navy days way back.

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Have a great break. Really enjoy the channel.

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See you when you get back. Enjoy your vacation.

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Although I will miss your postings, your rest is well deserved. Enjoy your time off!

[@MrHellsteeth]

Great reporting as usual

[@oatcaked]

You’ve been working hard. Take an extra day off, you’ve earned it.

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My goodness, please, please take some time off. We need you to be strong and hearty in your reporting and look forward to your continued well-informed and professional insights.

[@Sean006]

Very balanced and informative video (as usual). Thanks for explaining things in an easy to understand way. Have a relaxing holiday 👍

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Enjoy your break!

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After watching this (In enjoyment) I have this vision that some day down the road you are going to recieve a call and then shorty after wards we will get a new Vid from you reporting from right outside the Court Room. LOL...Good Job

[@kendalllucas7197]

Have a good break mate your a real pro 👍

[@cestmoi1262]

As I recall I was surprised how quickly the builder issued statements that in no way there could be any fault with the design of the yacht. My thought at the time was: the best defense is an offense.

[@guidosalvi2588]

@@cestmoi1262 I believe it was due to CEO’s fear for the future jobs of the ab. 2,000 (?) employees of the Perini Navi and mother company. And also to the reputation of that Group that risks to move from high to nil due to the apparent enormous and incredible errors of designers and builder for the Bayesian one single and tallest mast (rather than a safer double mast ketch-like solution). Accordingly, Perini Navi’s CEO admitted already two cancellations of similar projects. Congratulations for your highly technical analysis of the causes for this tragedy (I believe the Messina Judges will make use of the results of your technical investigation!). Being a long (72 yr) experienced sailor, mainly as a regatta sailor of Olympic classes (470, Finn, Star) but also as a skipper of some blue water sailing yacht, I think I would rather cross the Atlantic on a Mini-Transat 6.50 than on the Bayesian 54 m sailing yacht with the max. 42.7 degree mast admissible angle. 😉 enjoy your fully deserved break!

[@lee-anndewet5801]

Enjoy your well deserved break.!!

[@ooweesaler]

always an insight and clarity in a murky industry.

[@adriennewalker1715]

Have a wonderful, relaxing break

[@PelicanIslandLabs]

I'm not expecting a giant octopus attack so enjoy your time off!

[@frankclake]

Enjoy your break!, Take care.

[@mmogaddict]

Release the Kraken!!!!! (In all seriousness, enjoy your well deserved break)

[@paulblacklock2160]

Enjoy your holiday and thank you.

[@iainwilliamson3721]

Unbelievable. Air dampers are for fire response, I can't see how they would considered for down flooding. Seems to me that the only reason they are on the ship's side is to not interfere with the aesthetics on deck. Ridiculous design.

[@mystryfine3481]

Enjoy your holiday. We’ll be here when you get back.

[@ursulaburgisser293]

Relax and have fun

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Enjoy your time off!

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Have a good rest

[@will5989]

Have a great week off m8 💯👍🏻👍🏻