The Fastest Linux Handheld We've Ever Tested! Bazzite On The F1 Pro

[@skyrim2972]

I really like how handheld is getting more attention the more days pass, I see it as the future

[@Bopyable]

with setups that have a egpu, you could have desktop performance and still be able to game on the go. for sure the future

[@skyrim2972]

@@Bopyableagreed man thanks for sharing

[@cbz21]

It's not full performance of an actual dgpu because of the pcie lanes only giving out max on most of the handhelds at 4x speeds occulink helps but not many have occulink and there's only one controller that can give you the total 40gbs that usb can do. It's still better than the apu, and it gives you a way better experience plugging into a monitor.

[@CyberDopamine]

SKYRIM WADDUP

[@ele.zer0696]

Yess

[@NothingCoherent]

The reason many people don't like frame gen is because of input latency. At higher framerates its less noticeable, but on low power devices it can feel really bad. Sure the FPS counter goes up and it might look better on video, but actually playing it feels like you're stuck in quicksand. I guess some people are more sensitive to it than others.

[@Girvo747]

Yeah frame gen is only useful when I’m already at 100+ FPS and want to get closer to my 300hz monitors refresh rate. It’s input lag is gross for any other use case I found

[@GoblinArmyInYourWalls]

Tried frame gen for the first time recently and it was horrible

[@thienly3307]

The first time i use fg in wukong, i think i have skill issuse in this game, but after i noice input lag so awful, i disable it and everything perfect 😂

[@gortys3929]

It is suprising that ETA hasn’t figured that out lol.

[@GoblinArmyInYourWalls]

@@gortys3929 he's not a review channel he's a commercial channel. He wants each device to get the highest FPS possible on his videos so they keep sending him free stuff and so he keeps making money. I don't judge ETA for this, I like his hands one videos as a first look. But I'm also not gonna pretend he has scientific integrity when it comes to actually delivering performance reviews.

[@sairajaanuchandra3667]

I can not believe how good that red colour looks on that hand held

[@Wolfwood428]

For 1k it better fucking perform amazingly.

[@madmod]

@@Wolfwood428 1k USD isn't outlandish for flagship computer tech. Hell they still sell 6800h equipped laptops for 1200$

[@gangatalishis]

It’s more powerful than the ally x but the battery life sucks like with most handhelds. I’d hold off until the next gen.

[@GamingForst1]

@@gangatalishis yep give pc handhelds like another 5 years for battery life to improve cause right now it aint great its good for light games but at that piont a switch can do that no problem

[@gangatalishis]

@ rumor has it legion go 2 will have 100 whr battery which is a big jump, ally x already has 80 whr which is solid. Chips might be more efficient as well helping with the battery life. If I can game for 3 hours AAA titles then that’s plenty for me, even 2.5 hours is enough.

[@kiranmkota]

$1000 is a good price considering the specs. It can replace most people's laptop

[@845H1R]

Jesus, for the prices they're charging I'd want it to wipe my ass and cook me breakfast in the morning too!

[@misogear]

😂😂😂😂

[@misogear]

😂😂😂😂

[@danfuture4409]

😂😂😂😂😂😅😅 of course 😂

[@madmod]

People said the same thing about the older 780m apus etc. Now you can buy 760m apu equipped minis for under $325 USD. Its flagship computer tech in a tiny form factor. It's gonna be pricey

[@farishanafiah8461]

@madmod Exactly. Contrary to popular belief, scaling a large PC motherboard to a medium-sized handheld is a lot of money. It's no surprise why the latter is always more expensive than the former since you have less space to play with.

[@PohnnyRico]

insane apu, crazy what these things are able to do today.

[@LuisPerez-5]

What this does is not all that crazy. Specially for that asking price

[@farishanafiah8461]

@LuisPerez-5 Scaling down a large-sized PC motherboard to something like this isn't going to be cheap. If anything, the motherboard for this is more expensive than its PC counterpart.

[@akshat8586]

and noone can compete with Apple Sillicon level of effciency. The best processor in the world being a laptop processor is crazzzyyyy while still being able to provide 18+ hours of battery life,

[@gawsss]

​@@akshat8586 What apple? We are talking handhelds here 😂😂

[@farishanafiah8461]

@@akshat8586 This is x86, not ARM. Try again, son.

[@XXIVCONCEPT]

This makes me so excited for CES in January.

[@Barbaroossa]

This portable console-PC is definitely NOT a low-end system. No low-end system could run CP2077 on high settings, 1080p, over 60fps.

[@thenobody0817]

frame Gen looks especially impressive when filmed with camera pointing at the small handheld screen + using wireless controller. Really helps with hiding the artifacts and latency it produces. Just focus at that fps in the corner. wow , what a mighty device.

[@OblivionPrime]

This handheld is too beautiful

[@LuisPerez-5]

For the price I wouldn't expect any less. Calling a $1,500 device a "low end" system is crazy.

[@gortys3929]

Well, ETA was convincing everyone that 8700G over a cpu and dedicated gpu for the same price is a great deal xD

[@nickjones1609]

these things make me happy i set up my main pc as a streaming device before these handhelds were a thing, been doing 2k 165 for years and now that av1 streaming is a thing I do 4k 120. It makes these handheld devices hurt more, most people using these things are people who don't live in a well developed area so they must run everything locally on hardware and 1,500 usd makes these idiotic to buy

[@MrMilkyCoco]

To be fair it is a low end system just insanely overpriced.

[@LuisPerez-5]

@nickjones1609 Yeah you were fine until the "well developed area" part. That's just dumb. People using these just don't want to stream and would rather run the games locally on their device

[@bepbep7418]

Compared to my $5,000 pc... it is 😂 it's all relative

[@rekcahY]

gotta love when ETA says G-P-U haha

[@holmesfutrell]

On average I'm reading that F1 Pro can get 20% higher performance than Ally X at same TDP. The problem is that the Ally X (and upcoming MSI Claw 8 AI+ also) has 65% more battery capacity. The Ally can therefore mostly close the performance gap by running in turbo mode and still have a longer battery life. So the F1 will mostly outperform when it's plugged using 30 watt TDP. I do appreciate that the F1 Pro is lighter but they should have added some weight back in with a larger battery. The HX 370 model of F1 Pro that can actually outperform Ally X starts at $1699 (versus $799). For the price I would have expected 80 watt hours and would love to even see a handheld with 100 watt hours.

[@cbz21]

Plus the older hanhelds on the same z1 chip will perform close to that ally x too and cost under 500.

[@holmesfutrell]

@@cbz21 well the Z1 Extreme variant of regular Ally performs close, yes. I just left that out because the battery is half the size of Ally X so OneX Fly F1 Pro should at least exceed battery life of these models.

[@vladmihai306]

well, this is the price of new tech... but agree, it's kinda overpriced

[@cbz21]

@holmesfutrell idk buy a battery bank there cheap strap it to your handheld or keep it close by that's what I do with my legion and I get plenty enough power on the go. They are getting pretty efficient, though. 3 hours should be enough for portable gaming. Unless your like traveling on a bus or something you should be fine with just a battery bank.

[@Saif0412]

​@@cbz21 who wants to carry a annoying battery bank which you also have to charge, I don't. The device battery itself should be good enough, unfortunately it's not in this device.

[@TVCHLORD]

BrazzersOS really turns it into a handheld console

[@HavokRm]

Yeah things really pop out to and from the screen, don't forget tissues

[@lofimusiq]

OMG BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!

[@TechManDanN]

Do a tutorial on how to put bazzite on the f1 pro please

[@richardgordon6653]

Yes

[@lofimusiq]

Theres plenty of tutorials on getting bazzite on a handheld windows11 console. Its all the same process.

[@potatoes1027]

Frame gen adds input latency thats why people dont like it...

[@TheMangerChild]

Not only that, it looks really weird. Like floaty or something.

[@hiozero]

Don't forget the artefacts

[@hirosese]

ultra 1080p on a handheld running games like cyberpunk is crazy

[@austintse5719]

I'll stick to my Ally X for awhile. The battery life is just too good to use anything else.

[@liviup6660]

Smart guy right here. I have 8 handhelds and believe me ally x is the 👑.rest are babies 👶 😂

[@MadViking82]

@@austintse5719 Waiting for the Ally 2/X2 but will consider Asus Flow Z13 with Strix Halo chip. That thing has 14” and paired with a wireless xbox controller the experience should be awesome. Shame it has an IPS display, though… Am a sucker for OLED.

[@Envido32]

Bazzite is better and better each day it passes, amazing dev team

[@Refreshment01]

This is a landmark moment. We are officially in the good enough category. Now imagine a Steam Deck with actual good design, like the lenovo, with the next iteration of AMD apu & subsidized.

[@blastu2fool]

I have my Legion looking just like this with the Red pop 3D skin...looks amazing...so I'm going to wait for the Legion 2 ...great video

[@fettrickbreitstern9548]

It really bothers me that this has no programmable backside buttons or a touchpad... for 1300$. Backside buttons/paddles and a Touchpad for me are essential for pc handhelds, being able to play PC games that rely on a lot of keybinds is a luxury you just don't have on conventional handheld consoles. Yeah, the performance is good but man, the overall package just isn't it for me.

[@Micchi-]

The apple of handheld PC

[@icerink239]

Sacrificing those for OLED is acceptable

[@fettrickbreitstern9548]

@@icerink239 nah absolutely not

[@KnightMD]

Absolutely love it. Can't wait for Fremont to launch so I can stream all these games I've been postponing on my Deck. Fremont with its suspend/resume streaming will be transformative.

[@velvetvideo]

this is the future...finally

[@sirajkhan-bx5zl]

Hot swap-able battery is needed for such handhelds, so its more comfortable and convenient as you will always have a spare battery with almost 0 waiting time.

[@Biribiu]

Very beautiful screen. Look thease collors.

[@okeribok]

7:13 didn't the witcher 3 get a "next gen update" that added ray tracing, screen space reflections and HBAO (thus making it less like an old game) but had problems in DX11 mode, which might be what it is running under on Bazzite?

[@richardgordon6653]

This is exactly the content I wanted to see. I’m gonna install bazzite on my f1 pro after watching this. Keep it up ETA Prime. Good job.

[@richardgordon6653]

We need to know. Is there a performance boost?

[@jfrancis232]

The phawx did a video about Bazzite on the gpd duo with the same chip. He saw much better frame times and some better average fps.

[@davidbanner3291]

Is bazzite difficult to install on it ?

[@davidbanner3291]

Is there an install guide fir bazzite . I want to install it on my f1 pro also

[@jeffmartinezbr]

because frame gen adds lag and even if some people think it isnt that noticeable, some people (like me) are extremely sensitive to input lag

[@chamoo232]

I think it depend on the game and most importantly, have you played that game a lot without it before. Played Spiderman on PS4 and did 2 playthrough, one on the hardest difficulty. Got it for cheap on PC, unplayable with framegen. I can't dodge attacks.

[@fmulleady]

If they had added a 99Wh battery and an 8" OLED, they'd have had my money!

[@imammuchlis8946]

can you compare this linux OS with stock windows OS for performance?

[@Sumire9287]

It doesn’t change, some less stutters on linux, but averages are the same.

[@icerink239]

Personally, I saw not that much difference between Linux and Windows, even for proton based games. I own a laptop with the same APU as this one.

[@kumarsalib722]

It better be mind-blowing for that price.

[@UnboxMind]

No trackpads, no party.

[@deluge6479]

Valve fanboys be like

[@Mgooisu2]

​@deluge6479 trackpads open the door to playing 99% of my library. Got nothing to do with branding

[@chamoo232]

Trackpad is good but personally I need a physical keyboard. I have the GPD Win4 and the trackpad is good for precise mouse function but I use the keyboard way more. I love being able to do alt+tab or alt+f4. Or use printscreen or the windows key. No need to rely on the on-screen-keyboard either when games need you to input your character name.

[@kougamecs3876]

No party like a Trackpad party lol

[@Deytookourjurrrs]

The gabe look alikes are somehow happy with their handheld but always miserable weird

[@imglidinhere]

Honestly, I wonder if you can shut off the four Zen 4 cores and just run with the eight Zen 4c cores and game like that. I bet that'll help a lot with power distribution. I shut off half of the E-cores in my laptop's CPU. I know it's not the same thing as what AMD is doing, but shutting off 8 E-cores stabilized my minimum fps in games. I've seen upwards of a 50% increase in minimums because they can clock so much higher with fewer threads. Might be worth testing that some day! C:

[@Brandon-eh3up]

This thing looks beautiful

[@ytuser2093]

😊 great vid 👍

[@vladmihai306]

this new chip is amazing, especially at low tdps. it's a bit memory bw limited at the top tdps, but damn, until 25-30w it's just awesome. i have it in my vivobook s16 and i've put it to whisper mode, 75 deg max, a bit of undervolt and the fan does not even turn on on daily usage. during gaming, like gta 5, 3200x2000, max settings, 16watts sustained, fans are barely audible, FG on, 60fps. just love it!

[@solidsneak69]

I don't like frame gen, the visual smoothness is not worth the input delay

[@renegadepsyker]

With a bigger screen and a good gyro, handhelds are going to be the next thing in gaming. Playing all kinds of games on a handheld with gyro is simply amazing. Just give me at least 8" screen. 7" is too small.

[@M4R71N_88]

If it only had track pads like steam deck.. for many strategy and rpg game its a must have.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Can't wait for Z2 X

[@magicwolf6511]

Like my Indonesian friends always say "Era PC sudah berakhir"

[@johnpaulpagulayan1386]

Great video. Cant wait for mine to arrive. Do you have a video guide on how to install Bazzite to the Onexfly f1 pro? Thanks.

[@MrChadLedford]

I have found the latest afmf 2 to work excellent on most games.

[@razorgcy]

If I had this handheld, or any handheld for that matter, I'd try to max out visuals while targetting a solid 30FPS for slow paced AAA games, 60 for fast paced ones - you know, for proper frame pacing and display refresh -, and FG on for anything that is stable at 60 but higher FPS can be appreciated; the typical console mentality, AND I'D BE HAPPY WITH IT. Nothing running more than 60FPS (no FG) to eek out the most out of my battery. And heck, if the display supported VRR, it'd be all the better! I seriously hope the next ROG Ally comes with a 120Hz OLED while retaining VRR + the Z2 Extreme, and that big battery of Ally X's, AND, THE OFFICIAL STEAMOS SUPPORT...

[@salchichaconmma]

I wish this one had the paddle buttons on the back. Then it’d be perfect to me

[@srvuk]

The headline feature for me was the one that was somewhat buried. The variable TDP control to go all the way down to 4W, which must be great for those games that don't need to use up much juice to run optimally.

[@L337g4m3r]

Like some emulators.

[@errgoseven4680]

FPS shld target a factor of refresh rate. 144/2 (72hz) or 144/4 (36hz) for smoothest playback and power efficiency.

[@AtomicTreeDude]

Oh man its $1,500 for this model. That is insane. I will take my $400 SD ty!

[@chamoo232]

I know what you mean but I think we are lucky with the current situation in gaming handhelds. We have choices. You can find something for what you need if you do your research. The Steamdeck could be a no go for some just because it doesn't support eGPU but there is a dozen other options that supports it. Want something bigger? there are some. Smaller? there are some as well. For you it has to be cheap and you got a good option with the Deck.

[@yamazakitakahiro5515]

Excited for Legion Go 2 with hopefully same ish chip (Z2E)

[@poxer86]

does bypass charging work on bazzite?

[@waffelschmied7719]

I would like to know that, too.

[@Rashomon20s]

Imagine companies shipping these things with SteamOS, next thing you know PC Console Machines as well. 🔥 Team Valve is truly an unsung hero.

[@LuisPerez-5]

Slowly taking over gaming. And you know what they say about heroes

[@Beryesa.]

If one of next years' handhelds come with TB5/USB4v2 and proper Linux support, it could just replace my laptop as basically a nicely specced mini pc with a battery and a portable display, and one can use whichever keyboard they want... and I can plug in some egpu for some 3D work that I do on demand, done. Fake framework 16 😅

[@sweatbox128]

I really wish he would do at least some of these benchmarks without FSR/frame gen. it would be nice to see numbers that better represent how the chip actually performs without tricks that can foul up the visual presentation or playing experience

[@LuisPerez-5]

It doesn't perform all that great if they use all that

[@pHZerœ]

Can you create a tier list or suggest the best handheld device to buy overall?

[@INFINITY-oe4is]

Could you imagine if Apple got into gaming and made one of these with the M5 arm chip!

[@Drstrange3000]

I have been waiting for this over a decade. I really hope they eventually make a handheld gaming device and/or continue to add mlre games to their platform.

[@TVCHLORD]

yes they would limit it to apple arcade games only it would be terrible

[@INFINITY-oe4is]

@@TVCHLORD steam is available on Mac OS but I know what you mean! Also cost a fortune knowing them as well!

[@idanshahar]

Great video! I'd love it if you could test without frame gen (or both on/off) We want to know the real life performance and not fake fps that doesn't help the latency.. (when around less than 90fps) That's why ppl don't like it btw. Frame gen is good only when base fps is more than 60. on a handheld base fps might not be 60 so going to 60 from a lower base fps using frame gen sucks.

[@John-du2mq]

Holy cow 1700 for the highest spec one.

[@DrexxLaggui]

can you kindly compare performance to the original Steamdeck, and figure out if it's worth the upgrade?

[@teoferrazzi]

people (e.g me) don't want to use frame generation because it adds latency, which defeats the entire purpose of high frame rates! it's not about how it looks, but how it feels.

[@slapndbass]

Are you using a new mic. The sound sounds more clear

[@arseniogarcia8631]

With Bazzite are you still able to download outside application like Moonlight or Emulators? Just ordered one of these today and thinking about switching the OS to this

[@b1thearchitect401]

It's not "for some odd reason" that people don't like frame gen.. It's because it FEELS terrible. It does massively increase visual fluidity but 60 FPS needs to be the absolute MINIMUM framerate before engaging FG to make it feel remotely good. Anything lower feels similar or worse to streaming a game on the cloud or something like that. The input latency even from going like 40 FPS up to 80 is insane, and extremely noticeable

[@davefroman4700]

So I wonder when this will trickle into the desktop APU's..

[@Seb00lean]

Can you compare the 890m to the previous gens like 780/790m, 680m and Steam Deck OLED in future videos. I think many would like to see how much more they’re getting for their money and whether it’s worth it.

[@HeatherVN_GOTH]

Whats the screen size of the device?

[@yamazakitakahiro5515]

I would be nice to see how this device does with the really hard to run games like Final Fantasy 16, new Dragon Age, starwars outlaws

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

I don't get why people refuse to test with Xess, it is clearly the superior upscaler on AMD GPUs on exception of a few games like GoT and GoW Ragnarok, on the rest of them is much more stable and with no ghosthing

[@seethruhead7119]

better than the 38wh on my air 1s

[@EmblemParade]

You are simply wrong about frame gen. It should be enabled only if you already have a high FPS, not to fix

[@KnightMD]

Valve was correct to skip this gen. Ray tracing still needs to be turned off.

[@ac31454]

@@KnightMD facts and battery sucks still

[@TatsuyaWow]

u want raytracing on handheld ? lol

[@KnightMD]

@@TatsuyaWow Hopefully with the Fremont coming out we won't need that because to can suspend/resume stream to the Deck.

[@ac31454]

@TatsuyaWow I think us deck users are just alright with the fact of waiting until actual progress is made with balance at a price point worth picking up. :) battery life and performance and price

[@msimrow]

People don't like to use frame gen because it makes it look weird. I tried it on my desktop with a AMD 7900 XTX and it made me get crazy FPS but, it just looked odd.

[@elmarcentral]

Everything AI-based looks/sounds weird. It's demonic.

[@Alpha___00]

I’ve encountered weird bug with screen being upside down in gaming mode. And yours Bazzite worked out of box. Weird.

[@adayinthelife5496]

Nice one.

[@DChosenOneD]

Curious to see if HDR works, either with mods (like SpecialK) or natively. I know OLED doesn't automatically mean HDR support, but given the high contrast ratio and brightness it'd be interesting to see custom tonemapping applied in games like Ori on a screen like this

[@terryvoss3436]

Is this what you expect from the legion go 2 with the Z2Extreme?

[@ratuldey7926]

Maybe in next video install bazzit on zotac zone handheld and see performance and battery

[@seethruhead7119]

@ETA PRIME , can you change the hz of the screen to 120hz? 144hz not great for vsync of retro games

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

they should play games thats been played on older handhelds

[@MrAxelStone]

Do these guy release a new handheld every month??

[@farishanafiah8461]

I get the idea of this, especially with the OS, but isn't SteamOS for the general public still on v2? I don't remember seeing a general public release of SteamOS v3 outside Steam Deck.

[@bes12000]

My question is why aren't you using FSR3, it should boost the FPS a little higher on balanced and look better.

[@pictograph]

It is spectacular, but when I went to see the price, I was shocked. There is no way this can succeed with that pricing policy; it needs to cost at least half as much to make an impact in the market. I think the people behind this device have seriously overestimated themselves.

[@soloplayer9904]

can you zoom at the fps at gameplay scene ? some scene i can't see because I watch in phone 😅

[@cougarmain]

Can you try connecting 2 4k external monitor and keyboard mouse?

[@ordensritter3783]

I am just asking myself A) how will valve react, B) what would I chose for an stem deck mini, that is efficient and long battery live and runs with bazzite/steamOS.

[@Hernan-Hr]

Wow, great, I want one now, can some CPUs be disabled to test if it performs better with fewer CPUs? I play with "taskset -c 0-7 steam" and at least it consumes less energy

[@krew11uvtoo23]

It would have been nice if you showed the How-To for the installation of Linux.

[@cyrus4062]

Can you make a setup guide for this?

[@ahmedkhalidak4515]

can we get a video on the new Jetson Orin Nano Super Developer Kit, and maybe compare it to the Mac Mini M4 ?

[@davidbanner3291]

Do you have an install video for bazzrire that you installed on it? I bought one and would like to install it on mine.

[@Vandel212]

Can you try Final Fantasy 16? That kicked my 1660 Ti's ass.

[@Sumire9287]

Take that performance, reduce it around 10-15% and you got it. However you be lucky on this handheld compared to your PC given Vram. Ff16 chugs vram like no other so the 6 gb on the 1660ti are not enough.

[@dantecorbett2221]

Whats close to this performance but only $600-700 max. Is it the MSI Claw AI? or the new Lenovo GO 2? Almost perfect in my opinion but i don't wanna spend $1300.

[@chamoo232]

Look for handhelds that have the Ryzen 8840 chip. That's the closest you will get. It won't be the same performance but it won't be 1300$ either.

[@L337g4m3r]

@@chamoo232 No OLED either.

[@warfaman]

Hi ETA I installed bazzite but the screen is flipped did you encounter this issues ?

[@hibookii]

Can't wait to game for 20 mins on this and then the battery is dead 😂

[@zezba9000]

Does HDR work on Bazzite? Because on Win11 HDR works but SDR content is way to bright.

[@MDXZFR]

If nvidia making this powerful mobile chip, we can play with full ray tracing at 720p/1080p dlss balance/performance. Imagine how good it will look on the small oled screen.

[@KnightMD]

How does it perform with Ray Tracing?

[@chamoo232]

Probably not well. Even with the most powerful iGPU, it's not a good idea to use raytracing. Unless you lower everything to low and play in 720p maybe. I'm still going to try it with Cyberpunk once I get my GPD Win4 2025 just for the heck of it. I want to test just how far I could push that chip. Max TDP and see what can still be playable but also do the same for the lowest settings and lowest TDP possible.

[@L337g4m3r]

@@chamoo232 Doesn't the GPU need to support RT? Doing it in software would be too slow I would think.

[@chamoo232]

@@L337g4m3r Pretty much every GPU can do RT now but it's very demanding performance wise.

[@eskimolost2012]

neat a os i would use after upgrading from 2tb to 4tb and does the os support egpu with the onexgpu2?