MSI CLAW 8 Ai+ Hands On Review | Huge Battery, Big Screen, More Power!

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@pfroo40
@pfroo40 16 сағат бұрын
It looks like the interior of a 2008 Nissan Altima
@85crazytechlaz
@85crazytechlaz 16 сағат бұрын
Lmfao 🤣🤣
@DGENexMACHINA
@DGENexMACHINA 15 сағат бұрын
Needs more cigarette.
@bushybwoy
@bushybwoy 15 сағат бұрын
LMAO
@YaretziaGarcia
@YaretziaGarcia 15 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂
@whitepenali
@whitepenali 15 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@auggieaxiom5726
@auggieaxiom5726 16 сағат бұрын
he wants his PCs smaller and his handhelds bigger.
@parasolo89
@parasolo89 10 сағат бұрын
It's a strange paradox indeed
@2jYeti
@2jYeti 9 сағат бұрын
Can relate
@RobertMayfair
@RobertMayfair 6 сағат бұрын
Bro just needs a laptop
@gdot1803
@gdot1803 15 сағат бұрын
Congrats to MSI and Intel, they've really redeemed themselves; this is a huge improvement over the Claw 1.
@ninetendopesaitama2107
@ninetendopesaitama2107 15 сағат бұрын
Even the claw 1 got sw upgrades which made it really good. ☮️
@Corrosion37
@Corrosion37 13 сағат бұрын
No, not for $900
@comixof2morrow
@comixof2morrow 13 сағат бұрын
​@@Corrosion37 That's not bad for a powerful handheld gaming device. It's better than the Steam Deck OLED. OneXPlayer X1 Pro is insane!
@deluge6479
@deluge6479 12 сағат бұрын
​@@Corrosion37it is an improvement, regardless of price lol. The price is because this chip set hasn't been put in any other handheld yet
@MrBeetsGaming
@MrBeetsGaming 12 сағат бұрын
@@Corrosion37 It's literally a computer with a screen, why are people surprised they're expensive....
@CrypticWritings89
@CrypticWritings89 15 сағат бұрын
Just the fact that this handheld has a VRR screen and more than 16GB of RAM makes it a real competitor to ROG Ally X, at last. And depending on how it performs compared to Asus' console, I'd pay $100 more for it.
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 14 сағат бұрын
All of these handhelds should have a large battery option like this one and the Ally X. That's a must in my opinion.
@overoula
@overoula 12 сағат бұрын
the only competitor to ally x will be the one with better battery and same perfomance
@v2xerxes580
@v2xerxes580 16 сағат бұрын
Z2 is worth waiting for...
@mashferdista8741
@mashferdista8741 16 сағат бұрын
@@v2xerxes580 do we know when we would expect it?
@85crazytechlaz
@85crazytechlaz 16 сағат бұрын
First quarter of 2025 that's when we're going to be introduced to the Z2 chip
@Kareem-kb9jh
@Kareem-kb9jh 16 сағат бұрын
@@mashferdista8741 very soon. Legion go s and go 2 have fully leaked, q1 25
@MN0VV4
@MN0VV4 16 сағат бұрын
Mild performance improvement. Nothing to big.
@mashferdista8741
@mashferdista8741 15 сағат бұрын
@@MN0VV4 I'm still indecisive as to what to buy. Wait for Ayaneo or MSI or just get the Rog Ally X. I can delay my decision till Feb.
@alexjarrett5968
@alexjarrett5968 16 сағат бұрын
I like the rate of how much these handhelds are improving. The price is not too bad the 8 Ai+ is $900, so about $100 more than the ROG Ally X and the 7 AI+ is the same price at $799, with better specs. Obviously not as cheap as the steam deck considering it is $650 for a similar storage option, but if you are considering buying this you wouldn't care too much about the deck.
@BlueshellGamer
@BlueshellGamer 16 сағат бұрын
Rog is better.
@PixelatedWolf2077
@PixelatedWolf2077 15 сағат бұрын
​@@BlueshellGamerNah, it's worse especially because it's sticks can easily go out
@gcforreal
@gcforreal 12 сағат бұрын
@@PixelatedWolf2077 which rog do you have? i had the og ally and felt the sticks were too losse but the x sticks are fine to me . do you have this claw or the prev one ?
@PixelatedWolf2077
@PixelatedWolf2077 11 сағат бұрын
@@gcforreal I've got the original claw and I plan on getting the new one, the sticks on the Claw are looser than my GameSir G7 but they both have Hall effect. I didn't buy ROG because of their warranty issues and because they didn't have Hall effect sticks
@yonderson4964
@yonderson4964 11 сағат бұрын
It would be perfect if someone didn't forgot to add trackpads, as there was a ton of space for them.
@Dave_Parrott
@Dave_Parrott 3 сағат бұрын
I feel you, man. Like, strategy games exist, and controller-for-mouse is... y'know.
@blackpanthertchallalem8522
@blackpanthertchallalem8522 12 сағат бұрын
We are slowing getting to peak handhelds guys
@Razear
@Razear 2 сағат бұрын
18 hrs of KZbin playback is actually pretty damn impressive. This level of battery life would come in useful for a long road trip.
@Karti200
@Karti200 16 сағат бұрын
Hope to see at CES Valve confirming not only Lenovo and Asus, but also MSI to use Steam OS on their future handhelds
@Sumire9287
@Sumire9287 16 сағат бұрын
I quite doubt we’ll see something from Asus sadly. In the end the Ally X is newer, less than 6 months from release during CES and they still want to get some sales up. Besides, Asus has their Flow series that’ll get the new version and that got leaked, yet absolutely nothing about a Z2 extreme device. Hopefully I’m wrong, but I doubt it.
@JULIANTOUCH
@JULIANTOUCH 9 сағат бұрын
@@Sumire9287 I do really hope a new versión of the Z13 or X13/16 comes out. Otherwise, I will wait until we get the Lenovo Legion Go.
@Sumire9287
@Sumire9287 9 сағат бұрын
@JULIANTOUCH a new Z13 does in fact come 😉. Nothing for the X13/16 so far
@LuisPerez-5
@LuisPerez-5 16 сағат бұрын
$900 is crazy though. They should have used a 1080p display and make it cheaper.
@Sumire9287
@Sumire9287 16 сағат бұрын
It wouldn’t make it cheaper whatsoever. Going from 1200p to 1080p is just an aspect ratio change that wouldn’t be barely any cheaper. It’s just that the chips are expensive on their own.
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 16 сағат бұрын
True 😅
@loz9324
@loz9324 16 сағат бұрын
it effectively is 1080p but in a 16:10 aspect ratio, so 1200p. the screen is likely pretty cheep compared to the rest of the hardware
@modusaparandi8239
@modusaparandi8239 16 сағат бұрын
At $900 this would get slaughtered by the competition
@justswitched8841
@justswitched8841 16 сағат бұрын
900 is not that crazy considering the other competitors with similar or worse specs cost 1k plus
@frankpatterson9682
@frankpatterson9682 16 сағат бұрын
Not available at Best Buy, but I scored one, first batch from Amazon. Just waiting now.... "patiently".
@TREXYT
@TREXYT 15 сағат бұрын
No oled screen at this price...
@robertomoreno3364
@robertomoreno3364 13 сағат бұрын
Yeah man, What a dissapoint, The F1 Pro Have Oled But cost to much, and Zotac Zone it's something Ugly jeje
@mistamaog
@mistamaog 8 сағат бұрын
Would've cost $1000+
@kenshisanki
@kenshisanki 7 сағат бұрын
OLED + VRR = VRR Flicker, no thanks
@edgarplascencia6666
@edgarplascencia6666 16 сағат бұрын
I wonder why he didn't include the price in the video ? I believe this is a crucial information that is important to mention. It costs $900 USD if anyone was wondering.
@JB-tp6uj
@JB-tp6uj 13 сағат бұрын
Because the average person is less likely to click the links associated with the video if you know the price. I've worked in a marketing department for years and rarely do we attach pricing with our email or video advertising. You want a curious customer to click the link for affiliate revenue or upselling opportunities.
@tubby_1278
@tubby_1278 4 сағат бұрын
Or you can get the 512gb storage MSI Claw 7 for $800
@retrohandhelds
@retrohandhelds 15 сағат бұрын
THOSE SPEAKERS
@Instant_Nerf
@Instant_Nerf 9 сағат бұрын
I love it ! Soo many options.
@josesabat1710
@josesabat1710 16 сағат бұрын
Thats a beautiful machine 😍
@mattdavis9601
@mattdavis9601 6 сағат бұрын
You can tell by the tone of his voice and the extra care put into this video's production values that ETA really likes this "Claw 2".
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 16 сағат бұрын
This will probably be around $1100 Euro here in northern Europe. That gives you a nice PC with a 4070 gpu.
@graveyarddead753
@graveyarddead753 16 сағат бұрын
Handhelds obviously aren’t about max performance for your money. If that were the case then why would anyone buy a Steam Deck OLED instead of a PS5 Pro?
@kewa_design
@kewa_design 15 сағат бұрын
it's available for 999€ at Amazon
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 15 сағат бұрын
@@graveyarddead753 My steamdeck 512GB LCD was 360 Euro new.
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 15 сағат бұрын
@@kewa_design Ok, I only find the old Claw on amazon and that is 10800SEK or 938 Euro. (which is twice as much as the local retailer here takes for the same device with the ultra 7, and 1TB)
@seethruhead7119
@seethruhead7119 14 сағат бұрын
just buy both?
@Jada_Maru
@Jada_Maru 16 сағат бұрын
Can you test to see if Indiana Jones & the Great Circle will load and play on this? It will be slow, probably unplayable, but it's a good new benchmark to see what's possible on a system.
@gcforreal
@gcforreal 12 сағат бұрын
that game is already playable at an ok fps on the ally x and even runs a bit slower on low settings on the steam deck
@PrinzessinMaki
@PrinzessinMaki 5 сағат бұрын
what a nice upgrade! amazing job from msi and intel
@raze_sky
@raze_sky 16 сағат бұрын
gaming over 10 hour is crazy on handheld like this
@Patrick73787
@Patrick73787 14 сағат бұрын
I'd like to see the Xe2 based frame generation being tested on this device. Having AI based upscaling is already nice feature.
@elroe_e
@elroe_e 15 сағат бұрын
I hope one day to afford this, its's sad that price of this is like 1 year of rent price for my family.
@BSinNYC
@BSinNYC 11 сағат бұрын
@@elroe_e where do you live? I may move there if $900 pays for a year’s worth of rent. My monthly property tax is more than 10 times that amount. :(
@elroe_e
@elroe_e 3 сағат бұрын
@BSinNYC I live in Ethiopia.
@wavefile1674
@wavefile1674 14 сағат бұрын
This is actually pretty good for its price!
@imago3studio
@imago3studio 9 сағат бұрын
grazie, aspetto LEGION GO 2.
@RyanAnayaMc
@RyanAnayaMc 11 сағат бұрын
If I didn't already have the OG Ally Z1X, I would totally want to get this because of how good it looks. But, my Z1X is still totally fine for me, so I'm staying on it
@nutube6291
@nutube6291 16 сағат бұрын
I just love the way you talk (are you a part-time rapper, btw, lol?)
@ODNA1T
@ODNA1T 16 сағат бұрын
🤣🤣 He does have a unique sound.
@Karti200
@Karti200 16 сағат бұрын
Who would though that in the end of 2024 it will be Intel that actually gave us something interesting for iGPU and dGPU market
@finnetube1
@finnetube1 9 сағат бұрын
That color reminds me of my old 99 Blazer’s interior 😅
@edgargarcia6042
@edgargarcia6042 Сағат бұрын
These handheld gaming pcs getting better. We went from gaming handheld pcs being a pricey $1k+ gimmicks with bad specs to using top of the line APU chips that feature the newest tech in GPUs/CPUs plus being more affordable. The MSI claw 2nd gen looks beautiful wouldn't surprise me if 3rd gen MSI claw somehow runs games better as intel fixes drivers issues on their GPUs.
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 8 сағат бұрын
LPDDR5X finally almost able to get to what desktop RAM could hit over a year ago. This is genuinely impressive because LPDDR5X has much tighter power constraints, while my 48GB of DDR5 8800 might have been using ~8w per stick i bet this LPDDR5X is using under 5W total
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 8 сағат бұрын
Of note, i am 99% sure this is a chip limitation My 5700G can go to 2500 on everything But my 8700G can only go to 2200 on UCLK and 2400 on FCLK so i am stuck at 4400 for MCLK otherwise i'd be running at some weird non-divisible frequency between MCLK and UCLK(the memory controller) IIRC the MCLK would go up to 5000 if i dropped UCLK down to 1250 and ran it in 2:1 and this was only a 4000Mhz/8000MT/s memory kit
@Dokuji
@Dokuji 12 сағат бұрын
Not a fan of the bottom chin/bezel (my only real gripe with it from what I can see) but this is a VERY competitive machine and I hope it does well because it will only force improvements on the other manufacturers. Good job to everyone involved with this project.
@felek1768
@felek1768 16 сағат бұрын
the back looks like a cheap graphics card but i love the glowing abxy buttons 🙏
@KingSlendy
@KingSlendy 15 сағат бұрын
Yes I'm a sucker for RGB and I love how this looks
@simplylmao
@simplylmao 15 сағат бұрын
We need a direct comparison of this one with the ally x please. Fps at similar settings and battery life mainly.
@alexandrustefanmiron7723
@alexandrustefanmiron7723 9 сағат бұрын
Nice, 80w, vrr, 2xusb 4, 32gb, good perf but no touchpads :(.
@liamcollinson5695
@liamcollinson5695 4 сағат бұрын
More power is always good but i feel like these really need to be cheaper before they actually become mainstream
@ValentinVoronin89
@ValentinVoronin89 14 сағат бұрын
Hello can I plug external gpu? Asrock Arc A770 Phantom Gaming OC 16GB
@karathkasun
@karathkasun 10 сағат бұрын
No, Arc GPUs do not function in external GPU docks... at all.
@yamazakitakahiro5515
@yamazakitakahiro5515 16 сағат бұрын
Not a fan of the look, looking forward to see what Lenovo brings with the 2nd gen Go
@fightnight14
@fightnight14 6 сағат бұрын
There are leaks it should be accuratw
@omarbaasz
@omarbaasz 14 сағат бұрын
You've had the redmagic 10 pro longer than this, where is the video, and why don't you link the winlator driver you used in the asus rog phone??
@Driftuner
@Driftuner 16 сағат бұрын
I'll just wait for Z2 chips...
@Nickbaldeagle02
@Nickbaldeagle02 16 сағат бұрын
@@Driftuner then you'll wait for Z3, Z4, Z5, and on it goes...
@Driftuner
@Driftuner 15 сағат бұрын
@Nickbaldeagle02 no, i'll just wait for the Z2. This Intel and the Z1 already have the performance level that i expect from a handheld, but since AMD already announced that the Z2 will be coming out in the first quarter of 2025, i'll just wait for that. Im not very demanding from my hardware, but i also dont like having to upgade anytime soon just because my device cant keep up with modern titles, so the Z2 will do just fine for the next 5 to 7 years.
@lukakandareli1221
@lukakandareli1221 15 сағат бұрын
@@Nickbaldeagle02 exactly. Every time something new comes I'm saying that I'll wait for the price drop or a newer one ... But the truth is if you want something you should buy it. Nothing to wait. I said like that on Ally x. I said I'll wait for the price to go down and then I'll take it... Now look at me. My eyes are on a new one so if i wait again new will come and this loop will go on.
@Patrick73787
@Patrick73787 14 сағат бұрын
This one has AI based upscaling. Both Z1E and Z2E don't.
@Driftuner
@Driftuner 13 сағат бұрын
@@Patrick73787 dont care. I reduce my handhelds to 720p anyway. A screen this size doesnt need more than that imo, or at least i personally dont need more than 720p30/60. Again, im not demanding. My pc still runs 1080p even tho my 3060Ti is perfectly capable of more and even tho i have a 55"-4k tv i even reduced my series-x output to 1440p. I just want a somewhat better performing chip to somewhat "future proof" the device for modern and future titles...thats it...i couldnt care less for the rest...
@fightnight14
@fightnight14 7 сағат бұрын
Time to return my ROG ALLY X.. Not.
@youraveragedillon5958
@youraveragedillon5958 15 сағат бұрын
I just bought my Rog ally X and I'm happy. Although the original Rog ally was more comfortable
@AndresGRodriguez
@AndresGRodriguez 4 сағат бұрын
can we bazzite on this?
@shrex4796
@shrex4796 10 сағат бұрын
That Animated photo from where plz , its so gorgeous 🤩
@Magusguile
@Magusguile 7 сағат бұрын
A bit huge for my liking but glad to see it seems to be doing thing so much better than the Claw 1. To me, when it comes to screens they only need to get so big on a handheld, if you want a bigger screen experience just dock it to a TV or monitor.
@adpbobcat
@adpbobcat 16 сағат бұрын
I hope msi continues the claw with an 8inch + a big battery....when my AokZoe A1pro dies on me, I'll get the claw...eventually
@MrBeetsGaming
@MrBeetsGaming 11 сағат бұрын
I can't see getting this when the new Z2 extreme devices will be coming out and you get AFMF 2 with AMD devices which has already gotten quite good.
@rastamouse7861
@rastamouse7861 12 сағат бұрын
I'd love to see some kind of Linux based OS built for these because I just really dislike using Windows. I remember Intel had developed their own Linux distro called Clear Linux that had optimizations for Intel processors. I know it'll probably never happen but I can dream lol.
@ШУЕЗАЛИМБО
@ШУЕЗАЛИМБО 13 сағат бұрын
i will buy it, very good device for just 900$
@hellmekun
@hellmekun 8 сағат бұрын
those dpad reminds me of Sega's dpad, which i love!
@SponsoredbyPfizer
@SponsoredbyPfizer 7 сағат бұрын
Dave 2d reviews this and says the dpads are terrible.
@Sumire9287
@Sumire9287 16 сағат бұрын
Very good total system power draw, that makes it quite a bit more enticing. For reference, the Z1E devices hover around 43Wh in their 30w tdp modes. I want to see it properly compared to a Z2 extreme devices to see how performance really stacks up, seeing press material comparing against the Z1E in handpicked titles is not enough.
@julianf40ify
@julianf40ify 14 сағат бұрын
Very nice but I’ll keep my ally x until ally x 2 or whatever comes out that truly feels like a massive upgrade
@rocketi05
@rocketi05 15 сағат бұрын
VRR > OLED. Fight me.
@ninetendopesaitama2107
@ninetendopesaitama2107 15 сағат бұрын
Oled has almost always stuff like vrr and 120 Hz. Also the Pixel response time is superior to LCD. ☮️
@KingSlendy
@KingSlendy 14 сағат бұрын
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 don't spread misinformation, OLED screen don't have VRR because they have heavy flickering issues and they make the price waaay to high. Also yes VRR >>>>>> OLED, I see a lot of people treating OLED like it's the second coming of Jesus
@DoubleDragon5180
@DoubleDragon5180 13 сағат бұрын
Square up then lol
@robertomoreno3364
@robertomoreno3364 13 сағат бұрын
I prefer Oled man, With 120 o 144HZ, The Game Look More Fluid wherever The FPS You Play
@DoubleDragon5180
@DoubleDragon5180 13 сағат бұрын
@@ninetendopesaitama2107likewise don’t spread misinformation, the heavy flickering has been resolved mostly as well as VRR. It’s for phones unfortunately so we need Samsung so hurry up and bring their display experience over to monitors. LCD needs to die like CRT, and Plasma. They were much better than LCD but no manufacturer wanted to develop and improve those screen technologies but yet LCD did. I would wonder if anyone of those display tech got the same love as LCD…wait a minute…OLED! LCD NEEDS TO DIE.
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 14 сағат бұрын
Nice! This looks like a decent option! I look forward to a ROG Ally X faceoff! How well do these handhelds do with UE5 games? Can you compare them with maybe some games like Black Myth Wukong and Tekken 8? Thanks for the reviews!
@OpoSai
@OpoSai 15 сағат бұрын
Yeah I think I'll wait for the Z2, an impressive upgrade from last msi version but only up to par with the rest of the handhelds. ROG Ally 2 is what I'm holding out for
@woef
@woef 8 сағат бұрын
if this ran stalker 2, id honestly get it
@Kingnabor
@Kingnabor 5 сағат бұрын
The x runs stalker 2 just fine.
@pc14thenumber9
@pc14thenumber9 16 сағат бұрын
This stuff look cool.. Imma pick this up 5-8 year later.. which hopefully still being sold by someone and price being reduce. lol.
@giuliomoggia8653
@giuliomoggia8653 7 сағат бұрын
Can't wait to see if you can run Steam OS or Bazzite on this thing...
@danielmaggioni2673
@danielmaggioni2673 14 сағат бұрын
Please, try to run Final Fantasy XVI 🙏
@wasitacatisaw83
@wasitacatisaw83 9 сағат бұрын
0:42 "This is using an Intel Core Ultra Series 2 chip..." Ok, I'm out.
@sharveyajoglekar9979
@sharveyajoglekar9979 16 сағат бұрын
Although I wouldn't get mad if you don't, you gotta give me one bro. Been here since the channel started
@zappingdumondeanimal2925
@zappingdumondeanimal2925 16 сағат бұрын
You have no shame
@CChester9339
@CChester9339 14 сағат бұрын
whats about bazzite in intel arc?
@itsmilan4069
@itsmilan4069 15 сағат бұрын
gonna be selling like hot cakes in summer with price cuts
@fightnight14
@fightnight14 6 сағат бұрын
From 899 to 799. Wow, much price cut
@marcelorcardozo
@marcelorcardozo 16 сағат бұрын
Dead on arrive. It's using a 2230 SSD, and there is no way for an adapter, since it should had to be on top of the APU. No more than 2TB available. And before I get comments that 2TB is enough for the most of gamers, if you want, no need, you want to add more disk space you can't. The price tag I think it's a no go. Waiting for Legion go 2 or ROG Ally 2
@DlowDinero
@DlowDinero 16 сағат бұрын
@marcelorcardozo When was the last time you had to upgrade your ssd from 2tb to something higher??
@marcelorcardozo
@marcelorcardozo 15 сағат бұрын
@DlowDinero last July. 2 partitions, 1 with Win11, that holds gamepass and anti-cheat games, 1 with Bazzite other games, and emulators(ps2,ps3, and others)
@KingSlendy
@KingSlendy 15 сағат бұрын
Bro, the 2230 is not the best decision but out of all the things the SSD is definitely not gonna make it "DOA"
@marcelorcardozo
@marcelorcardozo 14 сағат бұрын
@@KingSlendy I got your point. But it was a personal opinion. As I said, from scratch, you're starting with limitations, like SSD. Maybe for majority of people it's not important, but in my case it's. But I totally respect your opinion on this topic
@businesstron
@businesstron 7 сағат бұрын
@@KingSlendy It does if you have a huge steam collection and want have most of it at the palm of your hand. The 2230 does take the appeal off of it. That’s the steam deck and Legion go biggest con.
@pHZerœ
@pHZerœ 15 сағат бұрын
Make a tier list or budget wise handheld pcs pls
@funny_animalandia
@funny_animalandia 13 сағат бұрын
Now the original claw with all the updates is better than LCD Steam Deck and base Z1 Rog ally (Non extreme)
@timmiller2476
@timmiller2476 7 сағат бұрын
How are 1% lows? Heard bad thing about lunar lake in that regard
@CellPhish
@CellPhish 2 сағат бұрын
Looks great but that price wow
@oxfx399
@oxfx399 6 сағат бұрын
It may be called msi claw but it is not designed for claw players in mind i have to use my index finger for the joystick which feels werd but i got used to it from my xbox controller but ill stick with my ps5 or ps4 controller. We need something like the steamdeck that is meant for claw players like me that have 8 fingers on the buttons and that dont feel annoying to use
@alexandrustefanmiron7723
@alexandrustefanmiron7723 9 сағат бұрын
Touchpads mfs, do you have it?
@tobfon2416
@tobfon2416 14 сағат бұрын
This vs onexfly F1 pro OLED pls 🎉. Ty😊
@miroslavsky1262
@miroslavsky1262 7 сағат бұрын
Do the speakers sound the same on the 7 AI+ ?
@manouhmanti7050
@manouhmanti7050 13 сағат бұрын
waiting for one of theese with thunderbolt 5
@SkullEspada
@SkullEspada 5 сағат бұрын
Can you run the first descendant on it!?
@om_PHONK
@om_PHONK 4 сағат бұрын
just waiting for Lenovo Legion Go 2
@HypoCT
@HypoCT 8 сағат бұрын
Stupid naming aside, it looks promising
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 10 сағат бұрын
Kudos to MSI for the drastic improvement with their new Claw 8+. Intel also did a good job with Lunar Lake to make it competitive with Phoenix. Only issues is that Strix Point with its soon to launch z2 Extreme should retake the overall Crown, but atleast Intel is in the game now. Msi hit all the right marks with this handheld, with solid 8' screen size, ideal resolution of 1200p with it's 16:10 aspect ratio, 120hz VRR, helping to standardize 80wh batteries which is CRUCIAL, breaking the chains of the insufficient 16gb ram by providing a hefty 32gb ram, and having decent 1tb storage ssd. The main and only thing holding it back is the fair but still expensive $900 price point. At $800 this probably would have been a home run. No doubt sales though will make it more appealing. Now the ball is in the court of the Legion Go 2 (which also launches next month) and the eventual Ally X successor to complete the Big 3 next gen handhelds, and see which comes out on top.
@EmergencyChannel
@EmergencyChannel 7 сағат бұрын
Steam Deck 2 needs to come soon!
@seppeseppe-jq7nr
@seppeseppe-jq7nr 6 сағат бұрын
Steam deck is realy outdated for new normal games 😢😢😢
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 5 сағат бұрын
@@EmergencyChannel Sadly it won't though. There will be no major Cpu releases until 2026 (with zen 6) and no major Gpu efficiency and performance until 2026 (Udna 1 which comes after Rdna 4) so that is probably the time Valve will have a custom chip based on those architectures made. They are also fine with having a massive 4.5 year life cycle between releases of the Steam Deck (Feb 2022 was steam deck release date, and I'd estimate 2nd half of 2026 for Steam Deck 2 based on the rumors of when zen 6 and Unda 1 are coming).
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 5 сағат бұрын
@@seppeseppe-jq7nr Yup I know. Have to wait almost two full years until the next Steam Deck releases. Alternatively one should jump on a different handheld this January, such as the Msi Claw 8 based on Lunar Lake, or any of the Strix Point based ones such as the upcoming Legion Go 2 Oled with the Z2 Extreme ( which I'm probably going for), since there won't be any new architectures till probably mid 2026, so no Handheld that is actually more powerful.
@MrFlashpan
@MrFlashpan 15 сағат бұрын
There's still issues with the Intel graphics & drivers then?
@Heavy2Heavy2
@Heavy2Heavy2 8 сағат бұрын
Im following ally x for long time watched all reviews and videos about it , but havent purchased ally x yet , is it wise to buy it now or wait for this claw 8 to become available ? Btw im hugely intel fan , but as i said in following z1 extreme for long time and really felt in love with it ... with its great performance in games... but 2025 is coming... and this claw and also other handhelds tempt me... Dont know buy now or wait...
@FAHRENHEITDELIO
@FAHRENHEITDELIO 16 сағат бұрын
$900 and IPS screen? For the price a OLED DISPLAY is a minimum requirement.
@ferdgerbeler8494
@ferdgerbeler8494 15 сағат бұрын
Really want a handheld that is prone to burn-in? if ya spend that much on something, you're gonna want to use it for many years, and all my older oled devices have permanent burnin, i look at something that cost almost a grand, and the screen has burnin, im just gonna be angry every time i pick it up.
@KingSlendy
@KingSlendy 15 сағат бұрын
Stop treating OLED like it's made by god. You all treating like IPS = bad, OLED = good when even if it's IPS the screen has VRR. I swear you'll buy anything at $1.5K+ if they slapped OLED on it
@ninetendopesaitama2107
@ninetendopesaitama2107 15 сағат бұрын
It has 120 Hz and vrr which is amazing. Don't get me wrong. I have an oled TV and several oled smartphones. I like the real black. ☮️
@FAHRENHEITDELIO
@FAHRENHEITDELIO 15 сағат бұрын
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 I highly doubt you have an OLED, otherwise you wouldn't be defending the scam, even the Nintendo Twitch has an OLED screen.
@FAHRENHEITDELIO
@FAHRENHEITDELIO 15 сағат бұрын
@@ferdgerbeler8494 Due to your infinite ignorance, do you think OLED technology has not improved since 2019?
@yamazakitakahiro5515
@yamazakitakahiro5515 16 сағат бұрын
MSI Claw vs Ryzen 370 / 890m handheld
@evilnitewing
@evilnitewing 5 сағат бұрын
I wish it came in red
@pebblesredjackson
@pebblesredjackson 15 сағат бұрын
Peace and many blessings to you. I like the look of this MSI handheld device. But holding it in the hands has to be comfortable.
@Suzakuryuusei
@Suzakuryuusei 14 сағат бұрын
Can you please compare lower TDP performance as well?
@DelightfulVideoGames-do3zm
@DelightfulVideoGames-do3zm 6 сағат бұрын
Msi claw ❌ Msi paw ✅
@markoratkovic9611
@markoratkovic9611 14 сағат бұрын
You're so easy to impress and thus untrustworthy. You got so impressed by frame generation even thou input lag gets crazy on handheld devices.
@TheCountdownnowgo
@TheCountdownnowgo 3 сағат бұрын
Driver and Firmware are essential. It's a Bill Gates essential argument, and he was right about the use, need and value of all software. Optimization matters. What matters more? Those conversations between hardware AND software.
@TheCountdownnowgo
@TheCountdownnowgo 3 сағат бұрын
always answer why...be honest to the customer.
@LividAardvark3911
@LividAardvark3911 11 сағат бұрын
I wish you would have listed the performance of the Z1E as a comparison with the same settings while you were doing the gaming benchmarks. Hard to remember all the numbers.
@sofaking1180
@sofaking1180 2 сағат бұрын
He did... he listed (therefore compared) the Z1E's benchmarks every time he showed the new 8AI Claw's benchmarks.
@LividAardvark3911
@LividAardvark3911 Сағат бұрын
@@sofaking1180 The gaming benchmarks.... Not the synthetic.
@shrex4796
@shrex4796 10 сағат бұрын
Bro from where u got that motion picture background plzzzz !
@WillySou
@WillySou 11 сағат бұрын
Looks good, but definitely gonna wait what Lenovo shows on CES. I don't trust intel drivers......
@danielhulan3058
@danielhulan3058 10 сағат бұрын
Man when will thunderbolt 5 come out. That will squash the uplift that oculink provides. Or these handheld creators need to start making oculink standard for egpus. Im tired of losing preformance because of the constraints of usb4. Or at least give us usb4 v2. That matches oculink.
@Misaac
@Misaac 16 сағат бұрын
Hello from the other side.
@ferdgerbeler8494
@ferdgerbeler8494 15 сағат бұрын
Does animated wall paper no long drain battery like crazy? I see a ton people running it on handhelds and phones like battery life is no longer the biggest concern with portable devices... seems strange, almost like misdirection..
@clem9808
@clem9808 7 сағат бұрын
Msi bounces back from the worst to the current fastest gaming handheld! 🤯 900$ is still a bad price though.
@godly-dummy1582
@godly-dummy1582 12 сағат бұрын
what would be the desktop gpu equivalent of this igpu ???? it seems impressive but im wondering
@tomb3782
@tomb3782 16 сағат бұрын
Can you load Steam os to it? I would love to see how it compares to the ally in performance.
@Sarumanu
@Sarumanu 15 сағат бұрын
Infinity Nikki on High settings gives my Ally X some trouble sometimes, any chance you could test that out?
@Kingnabor
@Kingnabor 5 сағат бұрын
@@Sarumanu ur joking right? Even my phone can run that game without issues.
@VeganPopTart
@VeganPopTart 15 сағат бұрын
Still got to wait for CES. Legion Go models to be announced. If one has steam os on it then this MSI is a hard purchase.
@cyrus4062
@cyrus4062 15 сағат бұрын
The steam model will have a less powerful chip. More than likely will be the 680m that’s in the steam deck.
@RemTilak
@RemTilak 13 сағат бұрын
One thing is for sure: I'll never buy an Intel handheld device again. AMD all the way. And after they dropped the first MSI Claw, I'm sure they'll do the same with this one.
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