Ethan Klein needs to STOP Talking about Israel-Palestine

Ethan Klein likes to make edgy jokes to his most loyal followers behind a paywall. Doesn't really like it when these jokes get exposed to the wider public and people don't appreciate them.
I respond to this and Ethan calling people against his alleged Zionism antisemites.
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00:07:40 - Ethan's tasteless jokes
00:12:10 - Ethan's reaction to the backlash
00:24:30 - Aaron Bushnell
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[@resurrectedone7463]

"My name is Aaron Bushnell, I am an active-duty member of the United States Air Force, and I will no longer be complicit in genocide. I'm about to engage in an extreme act of protest but compared to what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers, it's not extreme at all. Free Palestine. Free Palestine. Free Palestine. Free Palestine"., RIP AARON

[@urahi830]

you forgot aghaghaghaghaghagahgh

[@TheIcup24]

The second roasts hurt the most ​@urahi830

[@saturationstation1446]

@@urahi830 whats it like to go through life without doing anything productive or valuable?

[@urahi830]

@@saturationstation1446 I wouldn't know, I have to work two jobs to support my family, ask your parents

[@vietimports]

aaron bushnell had zero connection to palestine, was not palestinian, did not have palestinian friends or family, and probably couldnt point to gaza on a map

[@howtobehomeless6624]

I mean Ethan legit thinks it's cute and romantic that he met his wife through an ethnocentric breeding program and she's former IDF

[@areejashraf7413]

Yeah, he even joked about being let into IDF raids on his 'birthright' trip. His family also lives there so he is directly benefiting from the apartheid state.

[@darkwebgirl]

He also discussed the breeding and r*pe that occurs on these trips approximately 2 episodes ago and that he didn't report the youth leader they were with despite multiple people asking him to for fear of losing their jobs.

[@Maxisamo1]

They met in a Holocaust Museum while he was there for college, why are you spreading misinformation???

[@shinerstheseagull]

I’m very curious as to what you’re talking about, but I’m not sure how to search for it. Are you talking about the Birthright trip or is there something else? I’m just trying to stay informed, but I tend to get info overload if I’m not sure where to start looking

[@greysnake2903]

@Maxisamo1 Yes, during their service.

[@Clowanda]

Hila continually denying the acts of horror Isreal has been committing against Palestinians since the Nakba is insane and truly delusional.

[@alfiemace4756]

Expected from a former Idf soldier, would rather go n oppress than just reject their military service

[@nizzie16]

Average Israeli.. no wait, let me rephrase: like most Israelis.

[@eldritchbeauty]

Not delusional. Straight up evil.

[@TheMosayat]

It is evil, plain and simple. She is a horrible person.

[@general5503]

what acts of israeli terror did she deny??

[@SolitudeDayys]

“I’m not a Zionist” 🤝 “im deeply invested in the Israeli state” bffr lmao

[@Ebc1129]

Yeah.. exactly.

[@daniel-panek]

These are not the same thing... Anti-zionist jews in the US often talk about how they liked Israel but they've seen it's all a facade. They see that Israel is an aggressor and an oppressor. These two comments here are pretty dumb, there's no nicer way of saying things. To literally say "deeply invested in Israel" and saying that means you're a zionist is dumb. People don't necessarily want Israel to disappear. They want the far-right theocracy to disappear. They want peace with neighbors and stop theft of land. They want Israel to be welcoming to others. Your statement is like saying me "I'm deeply invested in the US" and you're saying "you're a Christian nationalist". No, these are not equal. Stop equating Israel with Zionism... You are literally doing the jobs for the far-right zealots.

[@ShaqGalifianakis]

Zionists always flip-flop on whether they’re proud of it or not.

[@shanapeeroma3449]

In the same sentence as saying “as a dual citizen w Israel”… so wild

[@mx.rainbowgoth]

seriously! like holy shit. there are so many jewish people who are against the state of israel and what is happening in Gaza. Ethan isnt one of them.

[@NandoTecua]

I don't know how people says Ethan is not a zionist. He says and gives the same arguments that a zionist would. Also repeatedly says "he is always conceding and when will people try to find a middle ground", there is not a middle ground between continuing a genocide and stopping one.

[@AlexKimTO]

Ethan has said he supports a free Palestine. He's called Netanyahu a war criminal. He's against the settlements. He supports a ceasefire. In what world would a zionist say these things?

[@renata-tsekhanovetskaya]

fundamentally, do you see a difference between being a zionist, and being a person with close familial ties to israel?

[@NandoTecua]

@@renata-tsekhanovetskaya yeah you can have close familial ties to Israel and not being a zionist (knowly or unknowly). For example Hasan is Turkish and criticize the goverment and its propaganda. He says the Armenian genocide was a genocide, how Türkiye is a NATO client state and all the atrocities the goverment does. These actions and comments make him a person non-grata in the country and lost a lot of family connections because of it. Ethan on the other hand, does minor criticism (killing Palestians is bad) and continously says "I am just saying what the other side says" but never analized how lunatic the arguments are. In the last conversation with Hasan, Ethan said "some Israel jews are afraid that Palestians will seeek retribution if there is a one state solution and that means killing of jews". Ethan never says how silly the argument is and how unhistorical the logic is. He defends the argument and never concedes how is just zionist propaganda. Also Hila, Ethan's wife, never said something like " yeah I unfortunately served in the IDF and I recomend not to join. Being in prision for a short period is better than contributing to a genocide".

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Ethan is nothing but a conman

[@renata-tsekhanovetskaya]

@@NandoTecua funny you say that, has Hasan ever given any proper coverage to the innocent Kurdish civilians in Turkey having bombs dropped on them in order to target the PKK ??? it's been happening in almost yearly cycles, and as someone who used to listen to hasan all the time up until recently, never once heard him talk about it except once in brief passing, and i had to search it out. I don't think you understand how weirdly nationalistic he can be while speaking in his native tongue, public education in Türkiye is incredibly skewed to a certain lense to glorify the ottomans and yearn for the empire's return, and he clearly hasn't unlearnt much of that.

[@cenauge]

When Ethan says that he’d understand if the guy was Palestinian, he’s showing that whatever empathy he has doesn’t extend very far past whatever he considers his own group. It’s like saying “I’d risk death for my friend’s kids, but not for a stranger’s kids.” Well, then your empathy isn’t towards children in general, is it?

[@urahi830]

that's literally how humans work

[@cenauge]

@@urahi830 Humans work like that on a spectrum. If we were all wired like Ethan Klein, no one would give a fuck about this. That should be obvious.

[@jafafa]

@@urahi830Have you ever heard of a FIREFIGHTER? You know, people, often with children, who risk their lives for other people's kids? In my town as in many, the fire company is all VOLUNTEER. People from the community. My neighbors.

[@urahi830]

@@jafafa hey do fire fighters fight fire in their communities or do they set themselves ablaze over fires happening 7000 miles away?

[@jafafa]

@@urahi830People travel all over the world fighting forest fires, etc. People travel to war zones with Doctors Without Borders, etc. Just because YOU'RE a nationalist, a xenophobe, a bigot or whatever the fuck it is you are doesn't mean ALL people are that way. MANY people care about ALL children. I don't consider myself a citizen of a country. Countries are BULLSHIT.

[@randomgenretalk8151]

I saw his 3h talk with Hasan who tried to explain to him why Israel is the bad guy in this conflict. It was terrible, Ethan said he wanted to educate himself but every time Hasan made a point, he goes into a defense mode and tries to appeal to emotion rather than facts but also loses his shit every time Hasan appeals to emotions. If he doesn't get it, he should shut the fuck up about this topic and not make everything worse.

[@AllisonRutherford-vs4dt]

Because he is triggered that he's a zionist and isn't comfortable with the fact he's no different from a nazi

[@Antowan]

Agreed. I also thought it was ironic that Ethan ended his podcast with Hasan afterwards. I use to like Erhan then afterwards I had to walk away too far gone. I had to remind myself he did use to entertain people like Jordan Peterson

[@kob4918]

LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU

[@gandalfthegrey]

He's a giant man baby atp

[@ThickRedPaste]

Hila was a member of the IOF, says all we need to know really

[@memeoverlord-pz5ns]

Ethan admitting that he is a proud Israel citizen explains everything. He loves Israel.

[@wisdomcoffee]

Yup and as an Israeli citizen he stands to directly benefit from Israeli expanding their colony further into Palestine

[@amdonut8091]

Does he not realize that it literally means he's a zionist? 💀

[@LegendaryBrandon1]

Israeli's get 1st class permission in the US.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

If he loves Israel so much then he should go move there

[@ironknightgaming5706]

Israeli citizens are Zionist by definition.

[@TrooperSixtyFour]

when I first heard Ethan say self immolation is for "people who are under tyrannical rule who have literally no way for their voices to be heard other than that" I screamed EXACTLY. that is the point. that is why he did it and why it was effective and why we are talking about it now. nothing else works! (also telling people to do more research when he probably should because Americans did self immolation to protest Vietnam)

[@bigsundays9058]

If you think you are under tyrannical rule while in the United States then I actually don't know what to tell you. There are many other ways of getting your voice out into the public without just killing yourself.

[@lilycollegemythbusters5532]

Also Ethan calling his political protest "suicide"! That was not suicide, it was death by political protest. So every person who dies in war is actually death by suicide?

[@jougjimmadome]

truly, the act is extreme because it is a protest against extreme violence. Aaron isn't even the only person who has self immolated in protest to the genocide

[@reddragon3163]

YES, that was my exact thought. Most people want this to stop but the psychopaths we have in power do not. It's literally just the Houthis, a few hezbollah cells and those valiantly protesting in every damn way possible. RIP AB ❤

[@shanefoster2132]

Precisely. Yes, there is a difference in allowing protest vs detaining or suppressing any dissent. However, the protests are seemingly ignored as the ethnic cleansing and genocide continues. In that frustration and ignoring of pleas to end the bloodshed, Aaron's action is understandable.

[@technicallyafox]

Calling someone a white person is alot different then calling them a White Supremacist, Ethan.

[@DatPiffy]

Uyghur Muslims, Rohingya Muslims & not a peep. But Gaza matters because white women care & they are Jews. Those crimes were 100x worse than Gaza & in the 2020s.

[@boobadascooba]

this is the tweet

[@serarrist]

BOOOOOM

[@Ray-zy7vb]

i wish i could like this 500 times. hit the nail on the head.

[@Vynjira-chan]

It's worth noting that I have actually heard Christians/White Christofascists/White Nationalists/etc.. all use this logic.. It's also worth noting TERFS also try to play the game saying it's misogynistic because you just mean Women.. While Dave Chappelle and Graham Linehan are happily calling themselves team TERF... ___________ It is extremely common for people to try and turn their hate group (which is ideological) into an identity group to try and "Reverse Uno" (aka, DARVO "Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender.").

[@PhantomHalf]

HOW IS THAT EVEN A JOKE?? Whats the punch line? Whats the set up? Whats the fucking point of the joke??? Guy stands for a long time while burning! What a champ! *queue laugh track

[@TheMosayat]

For real... that was just his laziest defense ever. Not every offensive bullshit somebody says can be swept away as an edgy "joke"

[@Bayyside]

He's allowed to joke about it as much as we're allowed to call him out for how distasteful it was. Ethan literally cannot take differing opinions WHILE explaining how we can't handle differing opinions.

[@Bonkpunktexe]

if it was a neonazi saying "hes good at burning" about a jewish person, they would, rightfully so, be called out to hell and back, and people would not let them sweep it under the rug as some "joke", but ethan is perfectly allowed to say that about a man who burned himself alive as a protest and then tries to excuse it as a joke or some fucked up compliment

[@dzhang4459]

@@Bayyside Who the fuck is saying Ethan is not allowed to spew his pathetic jokes? What the fuck is the point of this type of comment?

[@celedhion]

You should hear the jokes he made before that part. He made a joke about how he'd drink two Panera charged lemonades outside the Israeli embassy as a protest, comparing it to what Aaron did. Essentially minimizing Aaron's protest and making it into a joke

[@idontgiveacare9211]

“Suicide is bad, so I’ll make fun of the guy for killing himself, I’m sure that will help in stopping copy cat suicides”

[@vercingetorix5708]

Probably more effective at preventing copycats than calling him a hero.

[@novuspatriarch]

​@vercingetorix5708 if he's a hero than why would anyone need to copy? If he failed then that's when a copycat would feel needed

[@tripledigit4835]

⁠@@novuspatriarchbecause they want to be a hero as well? Whereas almost no one would do it if they knew it would fail

[@novuspatriarch]

@@tripledigit4835 that doesn't make sense. If it worked you don't need to do it again. If it didn't you might feel like a second round will work.

[@OlgaZuccati]

@@vercingetorix5708cope.

[@rainedrop277]

I don’t understand how Ethan and Hila watched the same video we all did and then THAT is their reaction. RIP Aaron Bushnell and free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@valiumhime]

Bc at they end of the day, they're just zios. Ethan meet Hila, an IDF soldier during his birthright trip. And lived at the colony for a while.

[@SmokingThatCasualPack]

@@valiumhime by your logic, everyone who is married to a Palestinian is a hamas member.

[@carlocarlos]

Hila was LAUGHING, While being an IDF soldier. insane

[@TheLetsRead]

@@carlocarlosit’s fucking gross

[@sibilidiot]

​@@carlocarlosyou know killing children gives you brain damage...and she has plenty of issues, just listen to her.

[@Music34897]

Lol why are you calling me a Zionist?? Me, an innocent man who is "deeply invested in the state of Israel"?

[@vansdan.]

I was screaming this in my brain. if you support Israel, YOU ARE A ZIONIST!!!

[@Jones-ke6bt]

How is ethan deeply invested in isreal? What? You people are actually jist jew haters. Its crazy.

[@DatPiffy]

He’s not lmao he pro Palestine. He’s just Jewish so the racist leftist call him a Zionist solely based on his ethnicity. Ignore the Uyghur & Rohingya erasure but Gaza matters cus white women care…

[@ausername8699]

He says he hates Netanyahu and thinks the settlers are all religious freaks. I'm standing more with Ethan on this one tbh. There's an unfortunate amount of Nazis that have infiltrated leftist discourse and purposefully try to equate Israel with zionism to get more and more sectarian animosity in the left.

[@renata-tsekhanovetskaya]

so every single person with familial ties to the country is a zionist? geez, thanks for telling me what i am, i guess all of time and energy ive spent on advocacy and praxis in support of palestine is worthless, because im just a dirty little zionist for having the absolute gall, the audacity to exist in a family in which members fled violence to live there, doesnt matter that they're all anti-occupation and Pro-Palestinian, it essentially amounts to them, and by extension me, personally being morally culpable for genocide.

[@tay-lore]

"I've PULLED myself all the way to saying it's apartheid, it's genocide... I have said all the things you want to hear from me"... yikes...

[@illogicalslayer9856]

He obviously doesn't believe it or stop supporting Israel though. Which is why he is a liberal zionist.

[@kob4918]

He explicitly states it’s only for the audience and he doesn’t care at all.

[@Scoopsdepoop]

He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

[@nfzeta128]

@@Scoopsdepoop no he's just damned if he does. It's what he says that dooms him, nothing else. Just saying stuff to get people off your back is an action in itself, especially when you outright admit it.

[@tay-lore]

@@Scoopsdepoop he's pretty damned disingenuous

[@sarahhauck3415]

Ethan raging about anti-Semitism while downplaying the genocide is like bitching about a paper cut while your brother is hemorrhaging.

[@ambersmith2612]

Actually cause I’m sick and tired of white rich men pretending they have it worse than people literally DYING cause people called them a mean word… an accurate mean word

[@Tu-mai]

“I’ve tried so hard to pull myself to some kind of central ground where we can have a real conversation” says the guy who canceled a whole podcast because his feefees were hurt. The same guy who in a conversation with Hasan told him “fuck you” twice and started going “lalalala I cant hear you”. Also, love that he’s using the “when they call me a zionist you’re calling me a jew” card instead of checking out why some people are calling him a zionist. He believes in israel’s right to exist and has even said that he sees a need for israel. Those beliefs are at the core of zionism

[@Abcdefg-tf7cu]

What podcast?

[@pinkmenace2452]

@Abcdefg-tf7cu leftovers

[@cherryfairyy]

When did he say fck you and lala I can't hear you? I'm so disgusted and disappointed with him

[@NotDaveGahan]

What a petulant child

[@shark4330]

@@cherryfairyy if you look up hasan and ethan talking about israel-palestine the entire 3hr vod is on many fan channels. i’ll warn you, though, it’s infuriating to watch. hasan tries VERY hard to be patient and empathetic and to come at the discussion in good faith, but ethan compares pro-palestinian slogans to the confederate flag and does in fact plug his ears and go “lalala i can’t hear you” like a literal child.

[@maddiemajcher1640]

I'm so glad you made a video on this I totally stopped watching Ethan during this genocide. Edit: he loves bringing up the antisemitism (which absolutely exists) but will not admit or condemn the insane islamaphobia that even he has engaged in.

[@headphonedust]

The way he talks about indians, chinese, and asians in general has always been quite weird and off-putting as well.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Yet Ethan is antisemitc for hating on Palestinians

[@justcallmekai1554]

​@@headphonedust Woah what did he say about them??

[@margareeta1369]

I used to listen to every podcast episode they did, after the seventh I just can't. It's very sad to lose the people I thought they were. But this has opened my eyes to all the distractions and now they can never be closed again

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

The way the internet makes some of the worst, most lazy, most indifferent, most comfortable, most ignorant, most head-empty people famous is just...

[@sumkin]

like who? genuinely asking

[@j_117]

​@@sumkinlogan paul

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

@@sumkin The kinds of people Kav talks about and more. From all different parts of the internet. From MrBeast, to the Paul brothers, to Tate and that entire industry of manosphere grifters, JBP, to PragerU, DW and that industry of grifters, Ethan, debate bros and that entire sector, Musk, Trump, the 'enlightened centrist' (but actually lib/right wing) educational YTers etc. etc. etc. I really can't make a list right now, there's just so so so many I could mention, but they're all doing so much harm and represent the most pointless, empty, exploitative content there is and so much human energy and time and money gets sucked into it as the massive distraction from real change that its intended to be.

[@spiltbongwater7591]

@@satyasyasatyasya5746you forgot ethan and hila

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

@@spiltbongwater7591 no i didn't lol He's literally in the list haha

[@annatarlordofgifts9986]

If he truly believed Israel is doing Apartheid and genocide he would renounce his Israeli citizenship. If I had dual citizenship and my country was doing what Israel is doing it would be the easiest choice I ever made.

[@ccaagg]

It's clear he doesn't care that much or is pro-Israel, but I can't agree with this at all. White South African anti-apartheid activists didn't just leave and renounce their citizenship - they took action, leaving only once their own safety would be under threat if they stayed. If something absolutely unconscionable is going on in your country and you're not in the targeted group, the solution isn't to just use your privilege to _leave_ in a meaningless act of pseudo-protest.

[@annatarlordofgifts9986]

@@ccaagg We're not talking about someone who lives in Israel. He lives in America and holds Israeli citizenship. If he wanted to fix Israel he'd be in Israel doing that.

[@FukaiKokoro]

He literally has family there. Y'all are DELULU.

[@ccaagg]

@@annatarlordofgifts9986 Right, that's what I'm saying. If he's against the genocide, he should be in Israel doing something about it. I didn't mean to insinuate that he lives in Israel, I think that was a poor choice of words on my part because of my comparison to white anti-apartheid activists.

[@Noooiiiissseee]

What country do you live in?

[@SenorBluesSthlm]

I also got emotional by hearing Aaron Bushnells last wish. It’s a very strong and beautiful message .

[@charliegeorgelong]

"I'm not a zionist" 20 seconds later "As a dual citizen deeply invested in the state of israel, more sympathetic to israeli perspective than most would be" Bruh that's what makes you a zionist

[@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper]

Im not a Zions

[@Niteporte]

Goes on to say he’s deeply invested in the state of Israel

[@aname5078]

"im not a zionist but i'll say the same shit the right wing zionist nazis in a softer more leftist way"

[@AllisonRutherford-vs4dt]

Exactly, its literally the same as a gangbanger getting pissed for being called a gangbanger and saying "wow just call me black why don't you" while the guy is actively in the process of a drug deal lol

[@saturationstation1446]

ethan LITERALLY works for israel intelligence.. how do you think he was able to come over here? why else do you think he CANT say ANYTHING negative about israel?? this stuff is remarkably transparent if you have the capacity to think critically about it for more than 10 seconds.

[@bokavordur]

​@@saturationstation1446 um... He was able to come here because he was born and raised in the US and moved back to the US after living in Israel for several years. He's an American. He's wrong about all of this, but don't just make shit up.

[@benjaminjenkins2384]

​@@AllisonRutherford-vs4dti feel like gangbanger is an incredibly racialized term, and while zionist also has implicit racial implications i feel like theres a pretty big difference

[@phaeque]

​​​@@benjaminjenkins2384 i mean if you are actively selling drugs and doing other gang related activities and you have a problem being called a gangbanger, regardless of race, youre just delusional. The term describes a profession that you are literally engaging in.

[@Izo84]

Ethan called Jewish Voices for Peace Kapos on the Leftovers show with Hasan.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Yet Ethan won't call himself a Zionist while talking like a Zionist

[@Shimansaji]

For real? That’s sadistic and antisemitic.

[@naweedock]

speaking of kapos. my hot take is that many of the jews that happily sided with and worked with europeans to create israel (the same europeans who historically have caused more suffering to jews compared to muslims according to scholar, david j wasserstein), are basically kapo-like. maybe not in that moment but unfortunately can be analyzed as such in hindsight. 1. they mentally tortured peaceful jews that had suffered the holocaust for being "weak minded" and aversed to the idea of oppressing to create israel, basically kapo behaviour to me. 2. they saw an opportunity to have a better way of life at the cost of other ppl (palestinians in this case), wasn't that what some kapos did during the nazi regime? wtf did palestinians do to deserve their current state of living? israel should've been somewhere in europe if justice existed and if it had to exists in the first place, in this la la land of mine. correct me if it's a bad take and i'm wrong.

[@kylezo]

@@dustinsindledecker154 standard modern day zionist rhetoric honestly

[@shark4330]

@@Shimansaji he argued that JVP and other antizionist jews are just being used as “tokens” or somehow tokenizing *themselves* for the pro-palestinian cause. as if jewish values don’t teach us that genocide is wrong, as if the primary lesson we brought out of the unimaginable tragedy that was the holocaust wasn’t to literally say NEVER AGAIN. and that lesson wasn’t NEVER AGAIN (just for the jews) it meant NEVER AGAIN, FOR ANYONE, EVER.

[@JadeHarleyCoffeeMug]

"As someone with Israeli dual citizenship" i can't imagine why you wouldn't renounce that shit ASAP! he may not feel zionist but he's a beneficiary of the zionist project, and married an IDF gun so i get the defensiveness

[@ThickRedPaste]

He is absolutely a Zionist

[@TheMosayat]

1000% ☝️

[@SmokingThatCasualPack]

I get that emotions are high but calling someone zionist because their wife is from Israel is pretty bigoted. This is like saying everyone from gaza is hamas.

[@holdenv]

You’re literally doing the thing bro 🤡

[@PachkaSiga]

His wife said she "rejects" that Israel has done bad things in the past ​@@SmokingThatCasualPack

[@ana01678]

Ethan Klein saying that, not only gives white supremacists saying “calling me racists is racist.” But it’s so out of touch that he’s calling that a “dangerous ideology”, when at the moment, Palestinians are being massacred. Something about him whining about being called a zionists, when people are dealing with so much worse, gives me the ick.

[@Jeretti16]

I really enjoyed the silliness of h3. But there is something about him having a victim complex about this that is very bizarre. I also don’t think he understands what Zionist means, but talks about it a lot. I can feel Dan and AB squirming in the background. ETA: he is complaining about people being bitches for not engaging in a convo and also cancelling leftovers where they could have really had a conversation? It’s actually really hypocritical.

[@StarxLolita]

Given his talks with Hasan, I think he knows full well what a Zionist is. He just is one. He is one of many Jewish zionists who view zionism as synonymous with Judaism. He met Hila during his birthright to Israel. Hila fought in the IOF and insisted on getting reassigned closer to the genocide because she found it more exciting. They are fundamentally zionists.

[@Tinylittledansonman]

Major streamers seem to get like an instant megalomania effect as soon as they have a big enough audience. Its a complete mob mentality scene.

[@maddiemajcher1640]

You're totally right he 100% makes the genocide about himself. He's always turning it around on how pro-palestine activists make him feel…

[@Clowanda]

It’s hard not to become frustrated with the crew. At this point they’re just complicit. I understand it’s their job and livelihood but they go on twitter liking Free Palestine tweets and tweets supporting Aaron Bushnell. I wouldn’t be able to stomach how Ethan acts and stay silent.

[@maddiemajcher1640]

@@Clowanda I'm really disappointed in Dan especially because he has the most opportunity to push back on Ethan. And he does it often in other situations!

[@godocs11]

To hear Bushnall say, "I want my ashes to be spread in a free Palestine when/if possible with their permission." and think he was mentally unwell is stealing his agency and twisting it for your own shitty political clout. It's fucked.

[@griggletv6974]

Ethin is such a cry baby he cosntently has shity takes and makes "jokes" then when the audience he wanted to cultivate takes him to task he melts down like a centrist baby

[@dustinsindledecker154]

I know it shows how weak minded he is not being able to handle criticisms

[@griggletv6974]

@@dustinsindledecker154 honestly I think he still wants to be edgy like the old days but he cant do that because its not profitable theirs just to many edgy joke slip ups for this not to be the case that's how I see it you could be different the way you see it

[@icemeoutlikeelsa]

He's been told to stop a million times. He even has this sick sadistic laugh after he says "he was good at burning alive, I was complimenting him". He knew exactly the reaction he was gonna get.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Yet Ethan always plays the Jewish victim card when he is confronted

[@DrAnarchy69]

Ever since I found out that the first Zionists were Christians, this shit makes a whole lot more sense. Zionism isn’t very Jewish and I should know since I AM Jewish

[@morgantodd3748]

Where can I read more about Zionism being a Christian movement in its earliest days?

[@ullebor]

Most were atheists, completely secular.

[@yannaleyva4554]

are you patrilineal, reform, or a "convert"? that's the only way your last comment makes sense imho

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Actually most zionists are white evangelical Christians

[@marekmedien]

alot of jews are atheist, what's the contradiction? @@ullebor

[@justagame101]

That chart at 5:20 is shocking. 43.4% think that they haven't used enough force???!!!!!! Only 3% against is nearly unheard of anywhere in the world. Even Russia doesn't have that level of domestic support. So depressing 😔

[@stevenunyabidness]

​@@jamesmackes4531explain the difference between "justice" and the modern equivalent of the liquidation of the Warsaw ghetto.

[@serjarmen]

@@jamesmackes4531should we execute the family members of serial killers according to your logic? Is that "justice"? Should we kill innocent people because of the acts of someone else?

[@bengagnon2894]

@@jamesmackes4531 Do you even know what "justice" means? If you do (and I'm sure you do), it means that you see fairness in the massacring of thousands of children. You're disgusting. We sure know on what side you would have been on in 1942.

[@serjarmen]

@@jamesmackes4531is justice killing innocent people?

[@stevenunyabidness]

@@jamesmackes4531 the new york times branding on your blinders is showing, might want to fix that.

[@delo77]

"I've said all the things you want to hear" -- Ethan Klein And THAT illustrates exactly the problem. He's said "the things", but it is quite obvious he doesn't believe "the things". Ethan, buddy, people are not stupid. If you don't truly believe "the things", then perhaps this isn't something to discuss with any leftish audience. (Not unless you enter said discussion with *genuine* curiousity to understand alternative viewpoints).

[@pennsittig5887]

Ethans tone is such a clear indication that he lacks any interest in whats going on palestine

[@TheMosayat]

Exactly. His attitude says he doesn't believe in the facts he admits about how just the palestinian cause is.

[@Daftdrunkk]

most people dont. you dont get to elect a terrorist group as government and carryout terrorist attacks for years and get sympathy.

[@TheMosayat]

@@Daftdrunkk you're.. describing israel.. right? That's literally israel

[@ankaschannel]

he didn't even know what the watermelon emoji meant, he's THAT clueless. claims to care about children a lot since he's a dad but apparently doesn't give a fuck about palestinian ones

[@re11ik96]

​@@TheMosayat US also.

[@andrewerickson2922]

The original Bushnell jokes were were gross and stupid, but he could've walked back from that. The tyrade on the podcast was where he showed his true colors.

[@tav5771]

I think he showed his true colors the moment he married an ex-IDF genocide apologist, but that's just me lol

[@SmokingThatCasualPack]

@@tav5771 nice to know that you look at everyone from a certain country and only see them as military opponents. Where else have I seen this before?

[@oldwellenthusiast8750]

@@SmokingThatCasualPack everyone? no, not everyone. just a man who married an IDF soldier he met on his birthright trip who bragged about raiding palestinian villages when she was "bored". is this the new zionist talking point? it's about as good as the others.

[@ikkee5936]

​@@SmokingThatCasualPackI think most people will only do this with the IDF. They are no ordinary military. They murder children en then post picture on social media of them in baby cribs

[@SmokingThatCasualPack]

@oldwellenthusiast8750 the unironic dehumanization from you ppl is kinda hilarious lol. Everyone born in Israel is mandated to serve in the idf. Referring to an israeli as an idf soldier is intentional dehumanization, which is verbatim genocidal language. I'll screenshot this and upload it as my pfp if I catch you pretending to genuinely be against genocide.

[@N3ur0m4nc3r]

When you met your wife while she was an I D F member, living in Israel. On a state sponsered trip to a holocaust museum. Then spent 2 years living in Israel befor starting your career as an influencer in America. Their perspective, in this case, is inherently biased and highly suspect.

[@el5880]

Damn, there you go

[@angeljemmett9729]

I keep saying this!! He has WAY too many dogs in this fight for his opinion to ever be applicable.

[@djgiga2]

To be fair everyone born in Israel is an IDF member because the government forces you to join at 18 which is exactly what was happening at the time. Of course Hila and Ethan do have a bias and Zionism in the way Kavernacle so eloquently put it. Not a bloodthirsty Zionism but still wanting to Israel to exist as it is an Ethno state. Although recently with Ethan's horrendous joke and smirk at a fresh corpse it feels so callus.

[@cherryfairyy]

​And what happened with the corpse thing?😢

[@Yukooo108]

I can already see the H3 crew making a mockery out of you with ad hominem attacks. I unsubscribed from H3 and feel more justified every day.

[@Yukooo108]

@@Russian_Waifu Edgy

[@stevenunyabidness]

​@@Yukooo108gotta love those tryhards. their parents sure don't.

[@vansdan.]

me too bro

[@jakestroll6518]

I just want to know who gave Ethan Klein permission to call himself a comedian. Saying idiot things with a twitch is comedy?

[@atiithe]

Used to watch the podcast religiously. Ever since the socialism debate with Hasan it’s been a total downfall. Kinda hate ethan now

[@ApexGale]

Ethan and Hila literally lived in Israel for several years. They don't want to admit that they were complacent in an apartheid state, because that would make them look bad.

[@NoGoodLib]

Complicit, but yeah, thats the vibe I get.

[@ember9361]

@@NoGoodLib Hila was also an IDF soldier

[@Maxisamo1]

​@@ember9361Because she was born there dingus, you have to or you face legal problems We've been over this thousands of times

[@user-gp5ce4ns4j]

She also participated in imprisoning palestinians And ethan called them terry rist

[@joshkaid]

Which is ironic, because if they would actually just say "yeah. We lived in Israel. And while living there that makes us partially responsible because we participated in an ethno-State" it would make them actually make them look better because they'd be acknowledging it.

[@thedead456321]

25:34 I am not sure why yet but seeing palestinians and yemenis holding Aaron Bushnell picture just make me cry.

[@vansdan.]

me too :(

[@choronos]

That right there. That is why Ethan's take that what Aaron Bushnell did was wrong because "suicide bad" is so infuriating. His sacrifice has already inspired hope in the oppressed, it has meaning, and he for damn sure did not die for nothing. RIP Aaron Bushnell. Would that we could all be as strong and determined as you in the fight against injustice.

[@PhantomHalf]

The worst part isn’t that he made a joke. ITS THE FACT THAT THE JOKE IS ASS.

[@metalface_villain]

i didn't care about the joke, what was bad was him saying the guy was mentally ill, regurgitating the american propaganda on the matter, invalidating that man's sacrifice.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

He thinks making fun of suicide is a good thing

[@LuluTheCorgi]

The most offensive thing you can do in comedy is being unfunny

[@daniel-panek]

I like Ethan. I think he's become more aware of the things he says, more empathetic and caring, and reasoned. But there's no doubt that a continuing controversy is his "edgy" jokes. He says inappropriate stuff, often for shock, he just can't help himself. He is clearly focused on entertainment and actually wants to ruffle some feathers and the choices he makes aren't always calculated. He is anti-zionist. He stated here and has stated in the past. He has a complicated love for Israel, as someone fooled by Israel's false image, like other Jewish westerners in the public eye. Loving a false image of Israel and contending with the fact that they're doing terrible things. This is the problem that Israel has corrupted their own State. What anti-Zionist Jews want is for Israel to stop being the oppressive far-right theocratic aggressor. They don't want the Jews to disappear, they want Zionism to disappear. They want peace with the neighbors of Israel. Conservative thinking poisons all.

[@jerzievap]

@@dustinsindledecker154this! yet he claims to be so anti-suicide

[@humblegamer7876]

He just doesn't care where his held beliefs actually do overlap with Zionism. Ethan thinks because he isn't his racist uncle or some guy he's thinking of in Israel, that he's not the bad guy But look at how he's neve apologized or acknowledged where he was wrong about terrorist tunnels under hospitals and shit. Dudes needs to be humble he isn't as bias free as he thinks at all

[@vanquish421]

Ethan should stop talking, period. Insanely ignorant takes on everything, and at this point he's just another Keemstar drama farming channel. His fan base is just as cringe.

[@fredarsenault8987]

he s an IDF plant, using his platform to silence pro-palestinian voices

[@maddiemajcher1640]

I can't stop thinking about the position this puts Lena and AB in.

[@benjaminjenkins2384]

Idk i feel like I've seen some good takes from Ethan. He's not a stupid person, he's just inconsistently reactionary in some areas

[@Theneves15]

My man, try for 1 second to put yourself in the position of Ethan in this question specifically. I disagree with him, but the sentiment is legimate and the antisemistism is real. It’s just a very emotional thing for him and for all jews, and that hinders rational thinking

[@nelsonpereira4442]

He can talk.. he can speak about anything, i am just sad he cant say what is a simple fact: israel was created to apease the guilty fealling of anti-semite continent, and the country created is responsible for colonization and aparthaid.

[@johncerasi]

Been a fan of H3H3 since like 2010, and I’ve stuck around thru Ethan’s dumbest moments, but I’m done consuming his content after this entire Israel/Palestinian arc. Bro can only emphasize with Israelis, no one else.

[@leovalenzuela8368]

My eyes welled up when he said he will only let his ashes to be scattered on a free Palestine, if they would have him. EVEN IN DEATH HE WOULD NOT REST until Palestine is free and in the hands of her people.

[@gia5279]

i started crying at this too, this man had a message and it’s so disheartening seeing the media and Ethan try to scramble it into something it never was and never will be. disgusting

[@xxx_rotfd_xiii_xii3619]

Ethan is a passport bro

[@JackFury]

I think people are giving Ethan too much leeway. If he was some random right winger or even centrist we would just assume he is the shitty person he comes across as

[@tav5771]

9:41 lol, the reference to China further proves how ignorant Ethan is, as the self immolating monk he is referring to was protesting the South Vietnam regime during the cold war, aka the camp the US was backing, and definitely not the Chinese. Or is Ethan calling every Asians Chinese? Wouldn't surprise me given some of the videos that made him famous.

[@TheKavernacle]

the reason I didn't talk about that (although I honestly think he was referring to that famous one) is Monks in Tibet do that too so I assumed he was talking about that

[@jaijoerik6233]

Monks in Tibet have done it before

[@jloiben12]

It is always worth remembering that it is actually a Jewish religious act to be anti-zionist

[@l2tl932]

Could be considered as one yes, but there is no real consensus on wether Zionism could be considered halachically proper or not.

[@jloiben12]

@@l2tl932 Whether or not people agree on what a text says, and what a text says, are two different things

[@sarahenchanted]

Every time Ethan starts chirping about Israel and Palestine it triggers me because he sounds identical to my dad when this is brought up (only Ethan is more filtered). Context: my dad is Jewish and has gone full on zionist and genocide supporter since October 7th. I can't give my opinion without being accused of being a terrorism supporter or being taken out of context and gaslit into feeling bad for the views I have. Ethan 100% gives off that vibe because literally almost everyone else in the H3 crew is pretty pro Palestine and likely won't speak up out of fear.

[@ullebor]

Sit down and watch Gaza Fights for Freedom with your dad and have him explain his support.

[@fullmooneve1651]

Take care Sarah, it's horrible when even your closest ones can't see what's in front of them

[@Maglors_grief]

I honestly wish the H3 crew would speak up or even quit out of solidarity for Palestine. Maybe that would actually make Ethan reevaluate himself and his beliefs.

[@sarahenchanted]

@thepuppie1369 I feel bad for AB and Lena tbh. I know they seem to genuinely like Ethan (maybe) but it feels icky

[@victordonchenko4837]

Ethan, who has constantly said he is pro-Palestine, Israel is an apartheid state, etc., sounds identical to your dad who calls being pro-Palestine being a terrorist supporter? Take your meds and hop off the circlejerk.

[@lilycollegemythbusters5532]

I had a Jewish friend in graduate school. We spent lots of time together. I am half Polish and half Mexican. I am all about education and compassion in seeing different points of view. She was a Zionist and was all for Israel as an ethnic state. I tried explaining my side of my perspective and she would continue to believe outright lies. She was this smart woman in graduate school and she was totally delusional.

[@bluester7177]

Just shows that being smart enough in academia doesn't mean you are actually smart or immune to propaganda on the real world.

[@randomhuman2595]

What where her arguments

[@purpleprinc3]

I had trouble understanding this, how can intelligent people not see the truth? Then I came across this quote..."Tribe before truth" and that couldn't be truer. They put their tribe before the truth and will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify it, took me the longest time to figure this out. But they will reap what they sow, as we all will, oh Lawd have mercy!

[@kylezo]

@@purpleprinc3 having a close personal relationship with more than one israeli american citizen here in the states that have become anti-zionist after (or in one case before) leaving israel, my experience has been that the brainwashing and lying is really just that strong. one person i know didn't actually have any exposure to the violence inflicted on people in Gaza & west bank, only went through 'cultural exchange' programs before moving to the states and learning more. some zionists really don't understand zionism, and this is the deepest sin of the zionist project - using the holocaust to justify violent colonization without making those goals actually clear or explicit to those who are ordered to carry it out. it unfortunately really will take work to explain to zionists what they believe in because they were given this context without options in many cases of israeli born citizens.

[@narikobeilschmidt]

it's barely been six days since Aaron died in the hospital; it's unironically too soon to be making jokes out of respect for his loved ones

[@urahi830]

I'm pretty sure if he had any loved ones he wouldn't have set himself on fire

[@ccaagg]

@@urahi830 Looks like someone didn't watch the video.

[@spiraljumper74]

@@urahi830So like, you a professional asshole or what?

[@scullystie4389]

Ethan: Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong

[@Dr.Badnews]

I stopped watching ethan half way through the last episode of the leftovers, because it was overwhelming obvious who's side he was on when he expected everyone to respect the "isreali experience" while hasanabi was trying explain to him the purpose of propaganda and indoctrination. Hila had to stop herself in the middle of a sentence where she was explaining that she grew up being told that Palestinians and Arab people want nothing more but to kill jews... It was sobering to say the least, and the David pakman showed us who he really was...sadly, genocide seems to be the time when people show their true colors.

[@bobhanson1037]

He wants to cry about being called a zionist while hasan getting called a terrorist and go to his country over supporting Palestine.

[@kylezo]

Pakman has been pretty forthright about his ethnosupremacist mindset for years and has made a habit of denying genocide since he became a political commentator after he finished his degree in economics in the early 00's. BadEmpanada has several great videos analysing this he's put out over the last 3-5 years. I watched pakman for about 16 months before i learned any of this, i generally appreciated his analysis of american political news but i have since come quite far away from accepting his neoliberal worldview and i can't stand his smug demeanor anymore.

[@Dr.Badnews]

@@kylezo I saw badempanada's piece, he's a really level headed creator.

[@lordj3793]

They are so reactionary always was. Their mentality during their anti sjw phase hasn’t changed . He is still immature and reactionary.

[@calvinware7957]

Reactionary politics isn't called that because it's politics resemble the reaction to the French revolution. But because it's politics that is born simply out of the impulse to react.

[@TJGames97]

Thanks for this video. I was admittedly a complete die hard fan of the h3 podcast up until about october 10th. Between october 7th and 10th, I was learning A LOT about the history of Israel's formation and their theft of Palestinian land. I became very passionate about stopping Israel's bombing because it was clear from Israel's rhetoric that they had no plans on stopping. Ethan's response to this on his first podcast since oct 7 was to call the people in chat anti semitic for typing "free palestine".... It felt like a complete stab in the back. It made me realize that I was clearly too emotionally connected to the podcast.

[@20tetsuo77]

same. I've been disappointed in celebrities before, but this one hurt. I was yelling at ethan through the screen this entire video. He's just not who I thought he was, and I feel bad for the crew to have to be in that environment during those rants, even if the rest of their experience is great, it comes off as unethical when everyone (who openly still to this day supports palestine on the timeline) just squirms and agrees awkwardly. Not only are his rants misguided and disgusting in general, but he's now subjecting his employees to an uncomfortable workplace because of it. Tbh, if they were to respond to my comment they'd probably even defend him like hasan still consistently does, but that doesn't make it right. I've defended him on shit I shouldn't have, but I just couldn't do it after this. On some level this video was nice to get an update that he hasn't examined himself at all in this timeframe. "I've said everything you've wanted me to say," he's always had a terrible poker face and this may be the worst example. You can't *tell* us that you care, Ethan. You have to *show* us. And everything up to this point has shown us that he doesn't.

[@lilbread1717]

I'm a French student. The French government has been impoverishing its population for multiple years now, but especially the young adults and students (Most student cannot eat multiple meal a day and some rely on food banks to survive). In the last years, we had multiple students who put themselves on fire to denounce the awful condition they were living in. Some died, some didn't. And everytime, it hit the news before being forgotten, and people even had the audacity to be surprised about the awful conditions the students were living in when Covid hit. For someone to do such an act as Aaron Bushnell did, they need to be at a certain level of despair, and he was. Ethan saying that it's only for people living in a dictatorship is such an ignorant statement, and it's making my blood boiled. Where is the empathy for a suicide victim? People need to realize that the state of our societies, of the world, have an impact on mental health. It has a lot of impact on mine, always had. People need to see the bigger picture surrounding suicide. It's not simply that something is wrong with this person, it's the environment that made this person suffer. People kill themselves because they cannot live in this world anymore, because the pain is too much. Because they were bullied, they were abused, they were stuck in an unforgiving system, because they didn't want to be complicit in a war, in a genocide. It's never just about them. It's never just "they were mentally ill", there's more to it, always. Suicide is not the failure of an individual, but of the system that led them to this extreme. Aaron is probably not the first person to kill themself because of Israel's crimes, and he will not be the last. There are probably many Palestinians who ended their lives after losing their loved ones. He burned to shine a light on them.

[@kylezo]

I agree 100%. this isn't just being inflicted on Palestinians. even though my burden is infinitesimally smaller than theirs, I still have to suffer to a smaller degree every day knowing i cannot live life normally. this sort of disastrous effect on general mental health is not something we should have to be suffering through, either. this isn't just happening to them, it's being done to all of us. we are all being collectively punished in different ways to uphold capitalist imperialism.

[@dd4850]

Ethan also keeps calling people he deems as idiotic “on the spectrum” to replace the r word in his vocabulary.

[@kylezo]

arrogant supremacists will always drift from one thing to the next before interrogating their own ugliness

[@martianmanhunter9989]

If Ethan, supposedly an israeli ally to the palestian cause, thinks that mocking the sacrifice of a man is funny, I feel hopeless for the rest of israelis. Those genocide tiktoks dont look that out of place anymore though.

[@leadleader2023]

Ethan Klein is a manipulative cry bully and nowhere near funny enough to make up for how fake he comes across. I mean, does anybody remember how Ethan Klein was crying when under the pressure of Hasan Piker, but then the same Ethan Klein acts all tough when he feels he can dehumanize you and or make fun of you without you creating any serious consequences for Ethan Klein's money, when money is the only thing that Ethan Klein truly cares about in any of this.

[@shark4330]

the funniest part? you couldn’t have toasted a piece of fucking white bread with the amount of heat hasan was putting on ethan in ANY of their discussions. but ethan’s got ALL the smoke once he’s back in his safe little hugbox, where he can make fun of QTcinderella for crying about having AI porn made of her, tell a gay palestinian sex worker that “hamas would murder you on the spot,” repeatedly and specifically target hasan’s muslim moderator frogan, and now he can do this heinous, soul-corroding shit with only the most pussy-ass lukewarm pushback.

[@Antowan]

"He's really good at burning alive." What you mean how can we not jump on that. You say dont glamorize suicide after saying that!

[@aichael326]

I can also relate to Aaron's frustration. Why some of us have the right to live and others don't? This is so frustrating

[@MetalBansheeX]

live and prosper

[@PenguinEconomics-st2ws]

Ethan was an edgy 4chan boy, I am shocked anyone even entertained him in a political sense.

[@sameerdodger]

I mean tbf, so was I 14 years ago when i was like 16. But I grew up.

[@mollykyoto5220]

He says people cry about a joke? while hes actually crying in a video where he says youtube wont take down a drawing of his idf wife with a gun - "they said its a joke, what kind of joke is that?? 😿"

[@ZanaharyBunziMaat]

Ethan is so strange. He frames both "zionist" and "jew" as slurs?

[@lilycollegemythbusters5532]

If you act like a zionist and talk like a zionist, what else can you do?

[@dzhang4459]

He's doing Israeli propaganda talking points. Israel wants those two words to be indistinguishable and inseparable.

[@IgnarHusky]

He's being paid by Mossad at this point if he's this much of a slippery rat 🐀

[@alfatazer_8991]

​@@dzhang4459Which is in itself ironically anti-Semitic because there are plenty of Jews in the Diaspora who are not aligned with the State of Israel.

[@daniel-panek]

You guys are idiots. He's anti-zionist. He is saying that people use the word "Zionist" to mean Jews. And he's saying people use these words in a derogatory manner. He doesn't like being called a Zionist because he's not a Zionist. Many more liberal Jewish people in the US hate zionism, as well does many liberal non-jewish people. Conservative Jews and anti-Semites EQUATE zionism and jew to be the dame thing FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES.

[@onetwo-lc2tb]

This breaks my heart. I stopped watching the H3 podcast soon after Oct.7th because Ethan's takes were really hurtful, but I was expecting growth. 5 months later and the cognitive dissonance is still there. I loved them so much, this has honestly been horrible to watch.

[@pinkmenace2452]

i would argue he’s actually been getting worse

[@SeanEP666]

Ethan doesn’t understand that the ideology of Zionism and the State of Israel are synonymous. Him saying he’s not a Zionist but defends Israel’s right to be exist through genocide is like saying you don’t support racism and slavery but you defend the Confederacy’s right to exist.

[@Tomartyr]

You shouldn't glamorise an unalive and you also shouldn't use someone's mental health as a reason to discount their beliefs. Ethan fucked up on both counts.

[@bobhanson1037]

And anyone seeing his video... I don't know how you say that's anything besides conviction.

[@derekbrandell8520]

His wife is IDF after all.

[@mollykyoto5220]

Yeah, theyve probablt bought a nice little beachfront in Gaza for their baby - And that baby is a real human being, worthy of whatevet it takes ti give it thar lil beachfront - mommy has descub3d how funny it was to harass peoole during secice, but mom didnt do that all for play, it was work too

[@aadliafiq]

"I was force to draft but i never see any IDF soldiers brutalised Palestinian" - Hila Klein

[@kylezo]

@@aadliafiq and didn't she volunteer to help conduct raids on sovereign palestinian property in the west bank as part of her service? literally ripping ancestral lands away from indigenous families

[@aadliafiq]

@@kylezo i don't even know that the statement that i commented is literally from their podcast where hila mentioned she never saw her colleague do anything bad to Palestinian i don't even know that was a thing is that legit?

[@S.A.F.I.vs3r]

14:39 he really just said "the genocide will never end because you criticized me" jfc

[@doggodoggo3000]

I was never a fan of H3. i only started listening when leftovers became a thing and he cant seem to handle talking about anything meaningful. its always been kind of braindead comment pedaled at young people from my perspective. like all he can really get out of any of this is youtube drama. leftovers ended because he didnt like comments in hasans discord? like wtf? i dont hate them or anything but they sure af seem thin skinned. "classic lib" type beat.

[@MrPersona94]

If Ethan really wanted to make light of Aaron's sacrifice, he needed to lead with how admirable and strong his conviction was. Could've called him a chad, or mock the secret serviceman who held a burning man a gunpoint. Anything but "he died like a champ" because he had enough strength of will to stand and call for freeing Palestine.

[@constantgardener1186]

Great take , regarding ethan klein i noticed that ethan klein always pops off when there is a moment when he thinks he can poke holes in the pro palestinean movement or to deny or demine the palastenian struggle : 1- he never advocates or devote a stream to donate to the cause despite stream almost daily 2- he hates Jewish voice for peace and called them nazi complicit 3- he went in rampage trying to deny the hispital bombings 4- super weird behavior towards arab leftists 5- making fun of aaron buchnell who made a bold extreme way of protest just to send a message to the world

[@user-yl4lf9mh1w]

Ethan has become a little fascist

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

There is no difference between liberals and fascists besides liberals trying to hide and do mental gymnastics for their authoritarian regimes.

[@jakestroll6518]

When was he not. Y’all got suckered in when he was forced to make a content shift when being a racist misogynistic edgelord went out of fashion because it chases advertisers away,

[@leovalenzuela8368]

Just a little fascist, *as a treat*.

[@mooreanonumbers]

​@@jakestroll6518 Yeah, it's wild how quickly people will press the forgive and forget button once you reach this level of privilege.

[@randomhuman2595]

When did he promote authoritarianism and extreme nationalism?

[@WabbyDoo]

Ethan has handled many discussions with almost no nuance or care. Rest in power, Aaron Bushnell.

[@legendofayda]

Ethan: describes in detail that he is invested and sympathetic to the state of Israel more than most people would be Also Ethan: how dare you call me a Zionist!!!!! Zionist is just another word for Jew 🥴 don’t you just love watching somebody trying to cope so hard with the fact that they are, in fact, a Zionist.

[@illogicalslayer9856]

Coping so hard he conflates Jewish people with Zionism and being antisemitic to try and paint non antisemitic people as antisemitic.

[@Slaycentral466]

It’s very icky for me how he says things like “ I said it’s apartheid and genocide so why are you calling me the bad guy”. Like you said he says it as though it’s transactional and like we should praise him for agreeing w the obvious

[@AkuaWalters]

His appearance on the Daily Wire incoming in 3....2....1

[@dustinsindledecker154]

I see him grifting tonight wingers again very soon

[@Dave102693]

More like on a Destiny stream as a special guess

[@tamzidrahman2673]

“If you call me racist you basically call me a n--“ like that’s what I’m hearing.

[@tatata1543]

He kinda sounds like a Zionist.

[@CraftyArts]

On April 22, 2022, climate activist Wynn Alan Bruce set himself on fire in the plaza of the United States Supreme Court Building in Washington, D.C. The fatal self-immolation, which took place on Earth Day, was characterized by Bruce's friends and his father as a protest against the climate crisis.

[@Uaene]

Hila Klein served in the IDF and volunteered to participate in raids into Palestinian villages in the West Bank which only houses civilians, just a friendly reminder :)

[@shueibdahir]

Hila? Volunteered? Now I feel extremely bad about ever having supported thesw two

[@muaddib989]

It’s not “volunteered” if you’re told to do it and if you don’t you go to prison.

[@bohillers2634]

@@muaddib989false you aren’t imprisoned indefinitely

[@Noooiiiissseee]

​@@bohillers2634 They literally didn't say you were imprisoned indefinitely. Why do people just say "false 🤓☝️" and then make something up?

[@muaddib989]

@@Noooiiiissseee To be fair, I deleted the part about it being indefinite. I was wrong there. I took the correction and left it at that. Apologies to the big homie for not saying “I stand corrected…”

[@BookwormSkates]

“He’s just mad he’s getting so much flak for his takes; which he thinks are very very rational.” Damn this applies to so many people 🤯

[@quietnightthought1478]

The number of people who, the moment an adult does something that they personally can not understand or empathize with AT ALL, simply chalk it down to the person being insane or weird is depressing. Like, do people really not grasp that some people are just outliers or different and can do such things without being 'mentally ill'? For anybody curious: look up how many Americans protested by self-immolation during the Vietnam War.

[@vincentmorelli1013]

I mean there was that whole draft thing where if you refused you'd get thrown in prison, I can kinda understand why going out in a blaze of glory would be preferable to some in that situation.

[@gregmark1688]

EK: "I said everything right, and they indicted me!"

[@moe3235]

0:00 btw, calling Ethan a "comedian" is like calling a kiddy pool with a hose spraying water--a "wave-pool"

[@nothankyoumaam]

In an old episode he called himself a great comedian and I cringed hard

[@strippinheat]

Didn't everyone realize years ago that being an "edgy comic" was just a smokescreen for being a right-wing asshole? The "it's just a joke, bro" defense until enough people vocally agree with you, then it's "the actual truth."

[@jaysteelsun]

He just needs to stop PERIOD

[@MissMaserati]

Being an edge lord doesn't mix with a giant victim complex. Ethan is his own worst enemy. My respect to Aaron Bushnell, what he decided to do is not a time for jokes.

[@kardoxfabricanus7590]

Even if Aaron is mentally ill (self preservation is literally hardwired in our brain and we are biologically made to want to avoid pain) it's still irrelevant cause every soldier is mentally ill enough to be a soldier ready to throw their lives away for the benefits of others. Him being mentally ill does not matter to the broader context of his extreme disobedience!

[@bobhanson1037]

I wish I could've been there to say "then if hila went to fight and died we could laugh right? Or would that be crossing a line in that joke?"

[@MangoPodcast]

his wife was IOF and there are videos of her LONG AFTER BEING AN IOF making jokes about h4rr4ssing Palestinians for fun when she was serving

[@dustyfairy8072]

Ethan is disgusting, calling us the viewers losers. Ethan and Hila are the only losers i see sitting there acting like they even understand the actual reality of the Palestine people.

[@paulgallagher5889]

Irina Slavina’s last message was: ‘For my death I ask you to blame the Russian Federation.’ She Sel-immolated in October of 2020. Pre war in Ukraine but certainly to highlight the fascism in Russia. EVERYONE CALLED HER A HERO AND THAT HER ACT WAS A WAKE-UP CALL TO THE WORLD!!!!! So dying when it's against Russia is FINE but dying to highlight the evil of Israel is wrong.

[@Dave102693]

Ikr?

[@shawnwilliam4653]

There was the quaker man during Vietnam who self immolated in front of LBJ Sec of defense at the time Robert McNamara...

[@_vcctv_]

appreciate u ❤ Free Palestine

[@garrett2439]

The really famous incident of a monk self-immolating was nothing to do with China. He was protesting the occupation of South Vietnam by the United States. That was the tyrannic rule in question. And, uh, I'm pretty sure the Vietnam War was a bit of a hot button issue at the time. In other words, it was plenty talked about.

[@Creamcups]

I assume he was talking about Tibetan monks. I don't know why you would go to Vietnam when he mentioned China.

[@garrett2439]

@@Creamcups Because I had never even heard of Tibetan monks doing this, whereas what the Vietnamese monk did is an extremely famous and well known incident. If you google "who was the Buddhist monk who immolated himself" it comes up with the name of the Vietnamese monk. Even if we swap it to Tibet, the second point is still valid, given that the Free Tibet movement is "plenty talked about" and has been for decades. Also my point still stands about Ethan's own country displaying tyranny, based on his own logic.

[@rockcycle824]

Ethan's lack of self-awareness is astonishing, I couldn't get his discussion with Hasan out of my head for weeks. "I called it apartheid, what more do you want from me?" Oh gee, idk, maybe don't go out of your way to give every excuse why it needs to stay that way? The white people in South Africa called it apartheid, too, and they, like you, didn't want it to change.

[@mollykyoto5220]

Why is this IDF servicewoman laughing at her husbands sick comments or "joke"?

[@kob4918]

Idk but it’s disturbing.

[@echoecho4590]

They'd be more openly Zionists if it wasn't for the money imo. They know their audience. They have to slowly slip it in so they can convince the hardcore fans that Isreal isnt so bad.

[@mollykyoto5220]

@@kob4918 To say the least, the subtle smile is bonechilling. I' m not satcastic in the least when I say im convinced that israeli citizenship (especially dual for no reason, ETHAN) Attracts fascists- and comes with inehrent fascsim anyway. Even in people who genuinly oppose fascism conciously

[@mollykyoto5220]

@@A-db4tz Yeah, especially in the light of the stories she told about her service in occupied Palestine. "Boring" when it was calm, nothing to do - and we all know what they do there. But she spoke about it so nonchalantly? No details in the clip I heard, but I do know what "action" means in "peacetime"

[@Bayyside]

Because she just sits there and laugh at everything her husband says, ESPECIALLY when it comes to this topic though. Remember it's just "dark humor" to them and they've been doing it for years so it makes it ok right 🤡

[@UNSTABLE111]

HASAN was genuinely trying to educate Ethan, but its clear Ethan doesnt give a shit..and while im not an Ethan fan, I almost became one when he systematically took down a red pill man..I guess thats just one of his rare wins

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

You know what I kinda think this shines a light on? News, TV, movies and video games, and the way our society desensitizes us and makes these terrible things kinda, boring, or like, the way we don't actually think or feel about these events properly anymore... i don't really know how to describe it but like the "dark humor lol" thing is almost some kinda glitch in empathy or something, because our society and media doesn't foster any kind of depth of kindness.

[@VeSpEr7iNe]

Not true...at least no for everybody

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

@@VeSpEr7iNe i can't help but think that "#notall x y or z" is both implied/common sense in the comment itself and a pointless reply to make that contributes nothing :/

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 which... is what desensitization is? like, what?

[@darksidegryphon5393]

Our society desincentivises empathy.

[@LuluTheCorgi]

As opposed to what, crying ourselves to sleep every night because bad things happen in the world Grow up lol

[@neferiusnexus]

Ethan: Yes, children are getting slaughtered by a racist apartheid state... but do you condemn Hamas?