Etho MindCrack SMP - Episode 132: Capture Points

[@willkern6]

Etho: In addition to the capture points, you can also implement a kill counter or kill point system into the game by setting up a pressure plate or a button next to the door of the spawn. When a player dies, he will use the button or pressure plate to open the door to exit the spawn area and rejoin the game. You can count the amount of times that a player leaves the spawn area and use that number to calculate points for the other team, or to compile a kill/death ratio. Love your videos and keep up the good work

[@DHTVproductions]

20:50 "I can see clearly now the rain is gone" - Johnny Nash. "I can see clearly now, the map is too small" - Etho.

[@KaneYork]

Here's some guidelines for the arena, taken from TF2 mapmaking: * Give *at least 3 paths* between each capture point. It's okay if they're not the best paths, but it is a requirement for balanced play for the players to know about each of the paths (so high discoverability for the paths is a plus). * To restate the premise, it is 5 capture points, arranged in a line. Have to advance linearly through them (if *Team A* owns **1 2 3** and *Team B* owns *4 5*, *Team B* may not capture *1** or *2*.) * Usually, spawns should advance as you capture more points.

[@WankingVanKing]

Speed Challenge suggestion: The Botanist: Get as many plants as possible. This includes flowers, saplings, leaves, grass, fern, dead bush, mushrooms, vines, lily pad, sugar cane and cocoa beans.

[@yaseen157]

Dear ETHO - I noticed your capture point system is very similar to something I had built a while ago, but that isn't too important. I already went through a bunch of designs when making a point system like that myself, but found some stuff that may be of use to you :P 1) I used hoppers instead of droppers because they enable silent usage 2) Hoppers only have 5 slots, so it could be more effective to use stacks of 64 rather than 16 (explained in 3). 3) Having 3 capture pressure pads on each team, you could set up a system enabling team based gameplay. If you have pistons under pressure pads, they could all link to a single clock on a delay. The clock pulses through each active piston at a different delay, all depowering hoppers accordingly, meaning the more capturers, the quicker the capture. If you even see this, hope it helps!

[@nickc4063]

my favorite part about Etho is that he never asks you to like and subscribe. It's nice when you're not told but you do it anyway

[@Blooddeath35]

Good ol' Etho. Joining the Mindcrack community together to build a project to fight each other.

[@TheLukesterGaming]

That was a nice little server/world tour you done to start the video off there, it seems like you got a lot of great deals from Seth's shop too! :P As for the PvP game, it'll be great to see you guys working on another one of these, even if it won't be as big or as technical as the FTB server one, in terms of the sheer amount of building/design work that went into it, as well as all of the various redstone/machine parts needed to make it all work too! You had 42 levels of XP before you cleared out that area of trees, and 42 was the right amount of ender balls, err pearls, to make your dropper comparator counter work too, coincidence? ...probably not haha!

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

/sing "I can see clearly now the trees are gone".... :-)

[@OMGkitty13]

If you fight a wither underwater don't forget you can make Waterbreathing potions out of puffer fish now ;D

[@PhantomPhoenix133]

Etho, simpler solution. Use the first idea with only 2 droppers but put in double the amount of ender pearls, but link the comparators to 5 Redstone dust before the other 5 that turns on the light. At the start both sides will only have ender pearls to make the Redstone go 5 blocks, but it will still not light up an lamps. Then, the other team has to technically count down the opponents lights before capturing the point. Anyone understand my rant? Like so he can see!

[@micahpheonix5936]

for classes you can choose between a !!Thumbs up so he can see!! -Tank(heavy armor lower if not no weapon) -Warrior(heavy sword lower armor) -Archer(lower armor with a bow) -Synergist(assistance potions ex. speed, strength) -Saboteur(has potions that hurt opponents slowness, weakness) -Medic(healing and a re-gen potion low armor but quick) -Martyr(quick low armor poison and damage potion

[@micahpheonix5936]

he doesn't need them all, they just suggestions plus they have just about every farm on the server i think they'll manage

[@taicoaerts]

Hey etho, if alot of people are in the new land, maybe you can open up a new ethocorp branch there.

[@biscuitsalive]

Etho. Have one CP up high, with a perilous climb. One CP down low. So you jump into a water pit to get to it. And the middle CP at ground level. This way the opponent can shoot people off walkways when they are going for high CPs. And shoot down at people when they are going for pit CPs. (Or jump onto them from above) Basically add verticality. Always adds interest to combat.

[@Ascendxnce]

Hey Etho, just a suggestion, why not try building little kiosks around the world that will have potions in them for the weary traveler? You could build a stand near the portal where everyone went exploring, you could have one in the nether hub, etc.

[@pinaz993]

Q:How many ender pearls does it take to get a 5-long redstone signal out of a comparator hooked up to a 9-space inventory? A: 42. MY GOD! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!

[@pinaz993]

That didn't take long.

[@BreezyInterwebs]

"Inventory spaces, that's my suggestion" -EthosLab

[@1brandini1]

Etho with the death games I have a very cool idea for different kits. Since now the server is tracking player kills depending on how many kills you have (5 kills,10 kills, 50 kills) and so on would unlock you new kits in the death games. It would probally affect some of the people not in the death games and encourage them to join. Just a suggestion keep up the good work :D!

[@klepto487]

Even better would be if the kits actually scaled downwards, making it harder and harder for them to kill others.

[@sandwiched]

For the theme of the PVP arena, how about a triple-layered approach, themed to fit in the forested area? The top layer can be an Ewok-esque village - treehouses at least 10m above ground & bridges connecting them, using 2x2 jungle or pine trees. The middle layer would be heavy ground-level foliage, with lots of tall grass, shrubs, and perhaps some short (regular) trees for occasional cover from the top layer. The bottom layer would be a slew of tunnels running to and fro, but none very long, and not from or to ideal locations (spawn or capture points).

[@Xeroxias]

Etho, have you considered using weighted pressure plates for your capture points to detect if more than one player is standing on the plate? Weighted pressure plates were changed to register mobs recently so I'm positive it would work.

[@207Scanning]

You could have some kind of lava trap throughout the river. Also try having some underground routes like abandoned sewers that people can flank in

[@RadiantExemplar]

Etho had a little lab, little lab,little lab, Etho had a little lab, that turned into a huge mega corp!

[@SincerelyNotMe]

For the PvP game, it might be a good idea to put the redstone lights behind coloured glass so that it's easy to see which team is winning, you could do this with leather armor in your class system too.

[@jiffpop5143]

Something for inv. space: BACKPACK: Can be placed on chestpeice slot. If you press "e" again whilst you are in your inventory, it will open your backack with (insert slots. Backpacks can be created with a few wool (5 slots), and if iron is intermixed with the wool(10 slots), if obsidian is intermixed with the wool(15 slots), then if diamonds are intermixed with the wool (20 slots). I'm not exactly sure how the crafting would be done, but probobaly containing around 3 of the required item (iron, diamond, obs.) and also wool. Hope you like the idea! :D

[@jooder7]

actually the inventory is your backpack

[@jooder7]

What?

[@AdamRyman]

I think the Lapis Exchange Plus was selling lapis blocks for gold blocks. Inside there was, in item frames, a gold block and a lapis block with a hopper between them, It looked like the hopper was an arrow to indicate that was the trade.

[@dethem]

the reason why etho needs so much green dye is not cause he uses cyan blocks alot, he ONLY uses cyan

[@Stikx]

I think an urban theme for the map would be awesome! There aren't many if not any urban builds on the server and it would add a bunch of elevation changes. Thumbs up if you think this is a good idea, thumbs down if you don't.

[@chrishealy8797]

Etho, you should have parachute spawn using the boat trick from you LP world spawn. Thumbs up if you agree.

[@WineRedEchos]

pvp arena should be sponsored by Von Sway.

[@IntelligenceCorn]

Seth's building is hideous. It's like a new neighbour moves in to your area, and instead of building a house, he pitches a circus tent on your front lawn.

[@RikoLime]

They should add equippable backpacks that cause your hunger to deplete notably faster when sprinting, and maybe penalize hp by 3 or something that is inconvenient normally, but quite decent for staying in one area and focusing on building. How much are you gonna sprint or fight when building.. but if youre caving and use it, yeah, adds a challenge there for the cost of bringing up more resources.

[@robynlinderman9204]

I think you should theme it as "Ruins of Minecrack" and use some of the old buildings from before the server reset.

[@patrickanderson3373]

Dear Etho, I heard from the Shaft that you were at minecon. Did you meet with any of the other mindcrackers, and did any fans recognize you? Thank you for the wonderful youtube content. I can't wait to see more!

[@Ixengrot]

Neat little design. The only real issue I foresee is if you have multiple pulse coming into that single block to account for more people being on the capture point, that some of those pulses won't be read by the dropper set-up. Another idea is instead of having multiple capture points, you can have a single capture point in the middle on a smaller arena and have it be a "Kind of the Hill" objective. Whichever team holds the point the longest in a time frame, measured through hopper timers or a comparator scoring system, will win.

[@chili24137]

I'm not sure if this would go along with the theme you had in mind for your pvp game, but a few jungle trees would be awesome just because of the ability to climb up them, and hide up in the the canopy, it would easy to hit people below but risky because if someone shot you off of it, than you would most likely take some significant fall damage

[@InfinityFofus]

You guys should stop with the spam about the comment section. Comment about the video, copying and pasting some "Bob" is not gonna make Google change it. They will eventually have feedback and react, but spamming won't do anything. Thanks for the video, Etho.

[@XiMozart]

Agreed. The Bob comments wont help Etho either when he's looking through comments for feedback on his video.

[@kehroro]

Maybe a new enchantment for Armour and Pants that will give more inventory? like a pocket /belt /backpack

[@CriticalJur]

6 reaction! Omg! Keep on the good work etho! Enjoying your episodes!

[@7h3F33d3r]

I believe Doc or a Zipkrowd person said that there was a point at which peaceful mobs would despawn sporadically after a certain large number of them were loaded. It was several versions back and possibly over a year ago. Anyway, if you're interested in the max cows possible, I'd suggest asking Doc about it.

[@Quizei]

Etho is the first utuber I ever watched and he's my hero and what ever he builds is amazing to me I get my insertion from him

[@bjk0norway0bjk]

Lmao bro looking back this is such a funny comment

[@Quizei]

@@bjk0norway0bjk omg I dont even remember commenting this but I just realized that 12 yr old didnt double check her spelling and insertion should've been inspiration

[@zZMysticNightmareXx]

Etho if you can see this, that shovel was payment for whatever was in that chest, it wasnt for sale lol.

[@NaxFX552]

Nope it WAS for sale derp.

[@zZMysticNightmareXx]

It was not for sale, the sign said "Per stack" so why would there be a shovel in there if the sign said per stack. -_-

[@SaberSquid]

To everyone copy and pasting "Bob". Do you really think that Etho and other youtubers wants to open up his/her comment section just see a bunch of Bobs that serve no purpose at all because the people at Google don't give a shit if you don't like this new KZbin layout. They haven't before and they wont now

[@keithhunter8759]

Hey, etho if you want I have a great idea. I was thinking maybe you could keep the map the same size but add a underground part. Caves would be easier to make then buildings and you can put capture points underground, it would split the map and add a lot to flanking. Just a thought

[@frozentenshi]

Etho, if you are planning on having a class system. You might want to consider having an upgrade shop. For example, going by the data value a team has (points/ender pearls) they can obtain upgrades like weapons or potions during the game. You could also set up dispensers or droppers to shoot a form of currency (items) randomly in the map during game play. Maybe even have the item be collected back via a hopper under a slab so that it does not despawn if no one picks it up. ((Continued))

[@alexw9988]

Very nice redstone work Etho! Like to see you do that kind of stuff!

[@SmokeyTurtles]

The splash potions of poison in the death games will poison the guys that step on the pressure plate!! Etho! :P

[@yoggy222]

No they won't, they get fired from a dropper instead of a dispenser

[@Shutup99100]

its a dropper not a dispenser

[@Realscarce]

Cow tipper should have fire aspect to auto-cook the meat Like this so etho can see it

[@sulaimanredza4272]

Well, I don't know about you but I'm here for Etho's videos and not spreading a campaign about being against Google+

[@julleketbulleke]

***** does that mean you have to destroy spam all these useless things

[@Velocity9x]

It's 2017 now. What happened back then?

[@acow9966]

Velocity88x get off the internet kiddo

[@Pushpin06]

I personally think you should definitely go with an old, ruined and overgrown look, it gives you many options like climbing leaves and vines while still leaving you vunerable when you are in a building, because you would have a lot of blocks missing or sections of a wall.

[@captainamerica2314]

Like survival games 2 style

[@frozentenshi]

Using the items, one can travel to a shop to purchase food, weapons or armour. If the shop is only open for a certain amount of time during the game then people can even use it to ambush other players so that there is a risk when going to buy upgrades.

[@danielwhelan5719]

Hey Etho it would be funny if you pranked someone by changing the dropper with poison with a dispenser for one person though

[@Dazzgracefulmoon]

EVERYONE RUN! THE BOBPOCALYPSE HAS HAPPENED AND WE CAN'T STOP! IT! SEND HELP NOW!

[@withinone5777]

hey guys i literally just started a new world AND YOU START ON A MESA BIOME! seed: 4433844210199486343 hope you enjoy! oh and if you go and turn your head there's a temple, it comes with gold, diamond, and iron horse armour, 3 saddles and an enchanted book with efficiency 4, looting 3 and sharpness 4!!! hope you enjoy! (:

[@ATFHollywood]

It seems bulky for each point, but doable. I would suggest a large overhead tracking board, use that setup for tracking how many of the 5 points are owned, then for the points have more of a progressive redstone lamp/torch elevator up between the capture pressure plates, when it reaches the top as fully capped, it sends a signal to that overhead board and lights up another lamp. Only have to work out how to logicate which team's lamp lights up for capture, I assume based on the plates used to cap it it? I don't know...I might be making it more complicated! But it would be neat! Whichever choice, I say stained glass (red vs blue) in front of lamps? How does it look? I never play anymore, but this new 1.7 update is definitely going to make me make some time for it again! Haven't played in a couple years, just watch you guys :D Also, the new youtube login stuff (i rarely comment) ruined my name/icon...so sad. Don't judge that silly thing :D

[@TheNagroth]

Idea for death games: Attacker takes out the sword with the name & uses that to attack the target. This would add a voluntary 'handicap', since you could put powerful weapons to be used against you. Also prevents names from cycling out of play while someone is busy hunting them.

[@AVStarFilmsVideography]

Etho, use fire aspect on the Cow Tipper sword so that you get cooked steak instead of raw beef. (Saves coal and cooking time)

[@LOLZYMCLOLZ]

bump

[@TheNomnom]

That would only work if the cows die from fire damage, and as he kills them in one hit, he would still get raw beef.

[@MrDennisblue]

Cow tipper needs a flame enchantment so that it cooks the beef.

[@MrDennisblue]

I wasn't watching carefully enough, thanks! :)

[@dalton3096]

Hey etho, you are awesome keep up the good work!

[@JohnGranter]

The capture points system sounds interesting Etho, hope everyone gets into it.

[@TheAmazified]

"Capture Point" seems like almost an exact copy of conquest in battlefield! lol Just a little observation I made. Keep up the good work etho! :)

[@frenchninjakid8231]

Dinnerbone should add backpacks :p

[@joshuapotts1086]

Guys for gods sake. KZbin have already started work on spam and are gonna release an update for KZbin in the next 24 hours. HAPPY NOW!?

[@ZephrusTheGod]

Etho dont find underwater! Generikb tried it once and the wither just flew out and away from the ocean!

[@akuaku77]

You could do the capture point logic without the pistons. The droppers could produce a redstone signal of length 10 maximum, and the last 5 blocks would light up the lamps.

[@MrHudson2212]

When I saw this cow farm, I knew that Aphrodisiac from Thaumic Tinkerer would come in really handy there :D

[@MrJonas4800]

belle vidéo etho!

[@ab-kv7oq]

rencontre de fr ????? sinon juste un conseil ...Dit le en anglais

[@MrJonas4800]

nice vid etho! ;)

[@ab-kv7oq]

^^

[@bffteamwhybe1139]

Oui qu'il la dise en francais je ne suis pas sure que Etho comprenne :/

[@MrJonas4800]

xD c le troll

[@piotrtrembecki4893]

Etho make a pvp map shaped like a jumbo sized Honeycomb Labs with cool high-tech redstone goodies and traps :D Thumbs up so he can see

[@peplinskiproductions]

woah, whats up with that carpet at 5:31? Is that a texture pack?

[@ISeTriX]

signs are below them try it out in creative

[@LiveTwinReaction]

Signs below them

[@ClockworkNinja24]

Those are signs under the carpet. Etho doesn't use texture packs.

[@MrShadowTempest]

Carpets on top of signs. The sign is a little taller than a block, so it sticks up out of the carpet.

[@louisporcellini3756]

there are signs under them

[@jacobwalker1574]

You could have stained glass in fount of the red stone lamps to make clear with team is capturing the point

[@maagiapall]

22:38 -.And I bet everyone is on board with Etho with this as well. Yet when I recommended it a couple of months back on minecraftforum, everybody shot me down :D:D

[@joshuanagington6200]

When you finish play with team Canada vs. Team..... America or something. like to show Etho that you want to do that

[@AlanJones1974Derby]

how the heck did they get sticks on the floor - in the "Lapis Exchange plus" ? Or am i missing something?

[@kyleglavan23]

bdubs used signs placed at angles to make the base. then after he laces wool on top and the signs stick out just a hair so that he could make cool designs out of it! pretty neat huh?

[@Oxymoron32GB]

They might be signs below carpet.

[@AlanJones1974Derby]

oooh neat - thanks :-)

[@nerdylabs5795]

yeah its signs under the carpet :)

[@alikababa3]

Lol everyone thinking they are independent by doing the SAME THING as everyone else with stupid Bob. Etho, I have always enjoyed your episodes on mindcrack, might I suggest you do some more side projects with people you normally dont if this is possible with the time zones and everything.

[@7h3F33d3r]

I think a mule chest would make a wonderful rolling cabinet for redstone devices and tools. In fact, that cabinet would be several times larger than a nine-slot utility belt.

[@Bloq.]

I think the number of inventory spaces is fine, because if it were too large, it would be more difficult to find your items. However, I really want them to add backpacks that can be opened to have more slots. Those ones in FTB that automatically collected dirt and cobble seemed *so* helpful.

[@TheMewtoo]

Why dont just go with a dropper dropper setupd and put in items for a signal strength of 11 and put 6 redstone between the first lamp and the comarator. So that you can get neutral Capture points as well and you dont need the pistons and stuff.

[@ThimbleStudios]

No, put the whosy-what's it on the puller thingy, and tieback the stopper dropper to the pullback on the fullstrum... get your zipstat on the wayback of do-ma-flochy!

[@ddimin]

+1. I had exactly the same thought. It will also remove that annoying clicking noise.

[@ThimbleStudios]

Glad you picked up on the zipstat!

[@yockapockapazzi398]

Etho why are you building this near your base when you can build it at the new guude land? Like so he can reply please.

[@xUsuSx]

He was saying it's going to be really big i think if he built it in guude land it would take up too much space and basically dominate the land in guudeland

[@Citronskaabe]

Etho, enchant books at level 1, you will get bunch of Prot1, Sha1 and Pow1 books witch you can use 2 per armour/sword/bow and you'll get what you want. + you wont spend your gold on useless enchantments

[@ThimbleStudios]

Which witch are you talking about? Because 1.7.2 changed the enchantment distributions... now (and before) getting loot 3 and unbreaking 3 is 30 level enchantment, and rare at that. Making a enough level 1 books to get 3 sharpness would be better served by making that many level 30 books, especially when you have enderfarm.

[@Errmahgurd]

He said that he needs leather for books to do the deaths game, so he already is doing that,PAY ATTENTION FOOL!

[@ThimbleStudios]

What's that? I cant hear what your saying because of all caps... I think you are inspecifically dumb. (You lack reference to what it is that you are trying to point out about your previous comment...) opening yourself up to clarifications... I thought your comment was silly suggestion, Etho has probably thought of it. Don't be foolish, I am a wiser ass than you, never a fool.

[@Errmahgurd]

ThimbleStudios No clue why you are answering my comment as if I was talking to you... and the comment is telling Etho to enchant books, I was pointing out that he made a cow farm for this purpose. Also, TAKE A JOKE FOOL!

[@ThimbleStudios]

Lol, I'll waste no more time on foolish things :)

[@joelturpen5480]

favorite mindcrackers etho ======================== beef ============== seth ================= pause ==== guude ========== bdubs ============= generikb ======== I think etho wins. congrats

[@BlizzardKnight023]

If you keep on breeding them you'll reach a point where the computer of anyone in that chunk will die and crash the server (that will definitely happen before they implode on each other)

[@DigitalDyslexia]

Etho, you've never really shown the way to get to Ethopia, if it isn't a 5 and a half hour ride than next time you're at spawn and need to go to Ethopia, don't cut the video on the way there! Or you have shown it before and I'm dumb for not having seen that episode.

[@weijeeeerrhd3747]

put fire aspect on it, so it cookes imediatly

[@arcaneblades7206]

Um...splash potions of poison in dispensers? Wont that poison the guy going for the kill when he goes to auto equip?

[@airbell1047]

They're in droppers so it wont get shot at him.

[@DrewFodor]

Those ones are droppers, not dispensers.

[@Aweseb64]

No, they were actually droppers so they just drop as an item instead of splashing as you would throw them.

[@SephK13]

Those are droppers friend

[@youbetails6526]

They're in a dropper, not a dispenser, so it's safe.

[@Balay123]

There should be a monthly all out Death Games where all Mindcrackers just kill each other, instead of the normal two targets.

[@floppydysk]

ethos redstone: Utomated redstone scoring mechanics, my redstone: pressure plate in fron of a door

[@103alexncor]

5:32 How do you make the carpet like that?

[@khoek]

There are signs underneath.

[@103alexncor]

Keeley Hoek Thanks!

[@ryangoff1897]

you should get a donkey and name it utility belt and put all your red stone stuff in it's chests

[@XionSteel]

Since it hasn't been built yet, why not make it the theme of the Ruins of Guudeland. also, obligatory gun: ,︻╦╤─

[@nommymonster]

definitely do a battle arena type thing, that sounds like a lot of fun and i think a number of mindcrackers would enjoy it

[@smurd20]

When I saw this on my recommended videos I thought he was sethbling! XD

[@SergeantSeriousArmy]

For some reason, when I watch others play MC I feel very inspired; when I go and play I get very bored... Any others feel this way?

[@_ramar]

yeah

[@Zachemochocinco]

Story of my life.

[@Minecraftandwarfare7]

Same! :D

[@SergeantSeriousArmy]

Well, Well, seems I'm not alone here :P

[@Minecraftandwarfare7]

haha lol

[@spider93286]

Why can't people just stop spamming "Bob and his tank" and let other people actually comment...

[@peterolganiek]

how the hell did he did that carpet thingy at 5:30 xD

[@joeiswellcoollike]

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[@puffles234]

hes got the carpets placed on top of signs, the top of them glitches through the carpet

[@ajayjones4330]

Aww yea. I freaking love 30 minute Etho Videos :D

[@firedingo99365]

Love the ideas. Sounds great. Maybe you could do a second map at Guudeland if everyone likes the first one. I definitely think classes should be included. Adds more variability and makes the game more interesting. I agree with the inventory slots too. A theme could be good. Maybe western style with saloons, hay etc. You could even name the weapons to fit.

[@ustinffitch]

Hey etho Genny b is already making a PvP arena so maybe you should help him finish his instead of making your own

[@7g3p]

Or they can connect both of the arenas with nether portals so it one big map in TWO dimensions, so there will be two overworld arenas and one small nether arena with nether portals connecting the two overworld arenas so a very big game with all the mindcrackers can happen in all 3 arenas or a small match with a choice of any of the three arenas.

[@Divulgation88]

Etho please quickly block the comments before this bob spam happens I would rather not read anyone's thoughts then have to search through the comments to find something meaningful

[@Ayzeet]

MJAU EG E EIN KATT

[@sivelg]

VOFF VOFF EG E EIN HUND!!

[@heiko207]

sondre knutsen Meow I am a cat. Woof woof I am a dog. For those wondering :)

[@mertalptaytak6374]

In one of generikb's videos he tried to fight wither underwater. Wither just flew to surface and generikb failed to kill him so you should be careful Etho ( if you are reading ).

[@allunari7236]

That scoring mechanism is fantastic. Nice work