Etrata Surprise! 🔵⚫ Against the Odds 🔵⚫ Historic MTG Gameplay

Etrata, the Silencer is a notoriously hard alt-win condition, but some new Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty help fix some of Etrata's biggest problems. What are the odds of winning with Etrata, the Silencer in Historic? Let's find out on today's Against the Odds!
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0:00 Start
3:05 Match 1
14:10 Match 2
19:46 Match 3
28:55 Match 4
33:40 Match 5
51:58 Wrap Up

[@jamesrule1338]

Be careful. Since this is historic, if the combo is too good, we might land up with an Etrata Errata.

[@matshbocks]

Pl... please don't.

[@Arrow_67]

Omg 😆

[@quinnenstrom4808]

No.

[@flipwhatthezipp4609]

Bravo

[@TherealLaserdog]

they only errata cards in alchemy and etrata isn't standard legal

[@kevinwonnacott5150]

You know that Seth has been playtesting some serious jank when he's playing in Silver.

[@obed6901]

i was wondering for a minute why Seth's opponents didnt have good decks.

[@ppmagic9841]

tbh seth isnt the best player. Im wathcing him because hes funny and makes janky decks. The best seth moment for me was when he played a modern "turns" deck and he accidently targeted his opponend to have him get an extra turn and the opponnent countered :D

[@JacoDeltaco]

@@ppmagic9841 the reason you think he is not that good is because most mtg contant are also realy good player honestly most player are way worst. also yes he make mistake but can you realy say you would do better and mistake like target the opponent is a client thing he would never do that in person

[@Tclark6199]

Even with all its faults, content made using Arena is just so much more visually appealing imo

[@Spaced92]

Funny thing is Arena doesn't even really look that good, worse for me because I prefer the card look, it's just hard to tell what is going on in MTGO sometimes.

[@jamesrule1338]

And the interface seems friendlier than MTGO. Which isn't much of an accomplishment, but...

[@healingvisioner1]

I agree on some sense, though I do like that I can read cards in MTGO without having to pause in that 1-second window where the text shows up on screen in Arena

[@joshuameyer2461]

Agreed

[@yourlocalprophet455]

I play a version of this in edh! The deck gets much more consistent with the release of the new set in Slip Out the Back too!

[@adamoberlitner1188]

Dang, I can’t believe the Thoughtseize bug is on Arena, too. Fs in chat

[@sstankfish]

19:35 I watched that multiple times. So close to a raging headset throw hahaha

[@nickoudyk4615]

@27:23 - Keep in mind you can ninjitsu a ninja back to your hand, and then ninjitsu it back into play again. Instead of just ninjitsu'ing the ornithopter for your ingenious infiltrator, you could have picked up the biting palm ninja, and then ninjitsu'd the biting palm ninja back into play using the ornithopter - you still get the 3 draw card triggers, but you get to thoughtseize your opponent. I think that might be a better line since you know the opponent has mystical dispute, which means you can't rely on drown in the lock for the next turn anyways; better to be pro-active and remove a potential board wipe.

[@ShawnSwander]

At 45:10 spell pierce = 1 turn clock and turns out also wins the match.

[@bigbuffguy9589]

Yeah, not spell piercing that is pretty inexplicable. The opponent was top decking and had seven lands.

[@deankrahling6060]

there were a couple notable misplays here, i think that the moves of letting them draw cards was a problem, every time i draw cards in blue/white, its because i have nothing good on hand or am using my mana before my turn, countering it usually ruins my game plan for the next two to three turns

[@Luciferian.Latino]

Etrata + Mari the Killing Quill. Someone needs to make this jank dream a reality.

[@rennac3152]

Already done, creature board wipe leads too player wipe

[@matthoward6130]

Thats an Etrata win. If they wont play creatures, you Etrata'd them.

[@LadyMapi]

Yeah, I feel like the draw of running Etrata in a ninja deck isn't that you're going to get the actual-factual Etrata win, it's that you can smack people with Etrata's back-breaking combat damage trigger several turns in a row.

[@matthewlohmeier2056]

Or maybe splash a little red for Relic Robber and give them a creature to target.

[@jazamaniplocastion]

@@matthewlohmeier2056 The token goes away once exiled and so isn't there to count for cards with hit counters

[@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet]

YES! Ravnican Vampires!!!!!!! Sorry, I just love the Ravnican setting. Any cards getting love from those sets give me the warm fuzzies.

[@rennac3152]

Remember where home is….my game, my colors, my guild: Ravnica

[@Ariadne568]

Etrata is my favorite alternative wincon. I played a deck with sunbird’s invocation and rhythm of the wild to put etrata into play with haste when those cards were in standard and it was the funniest thing.

[@CodenameJD]

That last game makes me want to see Ninja clones drawing the whole deck to win with Thassa's Oracle or WAR Jace XD

[@LadyMapi]

You know, I never thought about how well Ninjutsu synergizes with Fatal Push. Too bad Ninjutsu is primarily in UB and Revolt is primarily in GW, otherwise I think there'd be a sweet casual brew in there. I feel like Etrata feels clunky in this deck because the rest of it is going for the classic snowball-y Ninja game plan, where getting to the 5+ mana necessary to Ninjutsu Etrata into your hand and immediately replay her is non-trivial. I almost wonder if you want a few copies of Prosperous Thief in there to do a bit of ramping. (As a side note, I would LOVE to see an Against The Odds-style deck built around some of the ninjas that don't fit into the traditional Ninja gameplan, like Covert Technician.)

[@mattm7798]

Any Saffron Olive or Crim deck with ninjas I am instantly going to watch.

[@Savaniel]

Hey, I ran into you testing this deck on the ladder a couple weeks ago! I was trying out your Shrines deck and you scooped the match after Sterling Grove forced you to exile a token with Etrata instead of the Go-Shintai that made it, haha. Seemed like it was maybe a tough match-up. 😅

[@vaxfantomen]

I'd love to see an Echoing Equation or two in this deck for the an other suprise win ^^

[@talamran7499]

25:47 best comeback i have ever seen this this game

[@namsnoms]

Love the Neutral Milk Hotel shirt, Seth!

[@terakhan6656]

You can also use Semblance Scanner, equipped to Etrata. She hits face, you get a copy of her conjured to your hand.

[@JohnSmith-hs9ez]

Seth, the majority of these cards are legal in pioneer. I would love to see a pioneer version of this deck.

[@jamescooley5241]

Right? Historic has been dead to me since alchemy ruined it

[@radicalratx7790]

@@jamescooley5241 well we have explorer now which doesn't have alchemy

[@jamescooley5241]

@@radicalratx7790 when does it come out?

[@OGTahoe3]

There's a 3cmc enchantment that has 1: return creature you control to your hand. Activate only during your turn. That use to be my way around her trigger but ninja are just better

[@coreysierchio4650]

41:41 "Butt Ninjas...lol" *Thanks for the Content* !

[@ronaldortez6436]

Do you think adding tribute of horobi would be good for this deck?

[@christianbarrett3040]

Expected mindlink mech as the way to get things done

[@lucasmesquita9101]

12:50 that thousand-sace change to changeling outcast was so fast that i thought the client had bugged and the card just changed midway hahaha

[@ShurimanJesus]

I feel like most people don’t know you can just flicker Etrata to get around her being shuffled, plus if you run it like that you can also deal with people trying to remove her as well. A lot more control styles version of a deck with Etrata.

[@billy_mac71]

I am trying to play a variant of this deck and can't get the ninjitsu ability to return Etrata to my hand before the shuffle resolves. I've watched this video over and over and can't figure out the steps in Arena to make that happen. I have a ninja in play with mana available. What's the trick?

[@matshbocks]

kinda wanna see if this deck is good in explorer or pioneer

[@xblful]

Two creatures with counters and opponent with cards in hand is definitely an Etrata win

[@discobiscuits4251]

honestly the salty rope from an opponent on arena is a fantastic feeling.

[@ntemage3395]

Mari, the killing quill!!! We now have another way of placing hit counters on creatures making this even more insane!

[@malcomchase9777]

Commander cards take a while to show up online (as in, in Magic Online, nor Arena). Though I think the ones from Kamigawa got there pretty fast, so maybe this one comes up quickly too.

[@Kalenz1234]

Why not use the 1 blue merfolk 1/1 that can't be blocked? Same as outcast but has the option to block.

[@notyourbusiness5530]

Etrata works infinitely better with Spectral Adversary and several flicker/phase out spells. You can flicker or flash in Spectral Adversary and pay its additional etb cost to phase out Etrata until your next turn while making Spectral bigger. That way Etrata is protected until your next turn and doesn't need to be casted from your hand. If you can't find the Spectral Adverary, you can use 1 mana phase out or flicker spells to either keep her from being shuffled or to protect her. To find Etrata, add a few Impulses. But even if you don't find her, Spectral Adversary by itself is usually enough to deal with most threats and win the game. Edit: Adding in a drawbridge or swiftfoot boots immediately gives Etrata haste. And virtue of knowledge lets you copy Etrata's triggered ability for only 2 mana.

[@matthewlohmeier2056]

I know it's the wrong color but maybe splash red for Relic Rober to give them a creature could be good. Even without Estrata it's would be good on an empty board.

[@reves432]

Exiling tokens won't work since they don't stay in exile with the counter but disappear.

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

At 15:57 you could activate Kaito to look for Etrata before conceding, you probably still would have lost though.

[@mikeciul8599]

25:32 would it have helped to ninjitsu the ornithopter in to bounce Satoru Umezawa and save it from Eiganjo?

[@McDodgerMan]

Opponent has not declared blocks yet, so ninjutsu isn’t valid.

[@tigersharktcg3971]

I would like to see a wurm surprise remaster

[@BuckysKnifeFlip]

If you want to keep the alt win con theme. The next against the odds should be Atemsis in historic. You build him with bag of holding, DFC's, and possibly Magic Mirror for the limitless hand size. Crack the bag of holding after you hit with him and add all the cards back to your hand in response for as many possible cmcs.

[@packfiend3732]

Bonded courier is back!

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

omg you missed so many opportunities to fatal push the isareth with revolt from ninjutsu. that would have been dope.

[@eloidasarmi6815]

Looks like we need a copy of exotic orchard xd

[@josephfernandez8015]

I read this as Errata, the silencer.

[@alanpigate8776]

Anyone think this deck could work in pioneer? I've been thinking of getting back into the format

[@TheGreyProphet]

Would Mari the Killing Quill be a good card for this deck? It exiles creatures with hit counters and opponents won't expect the Etrata ninjutsu to finish?

[@captainnermy5608]

That’s a commander card that won’t be available on arena. But yes, Mari is good with Etrata in EDH.

[@TheGreyProphet]

@@captainnermy5608 oh, didnt know that since I've never played arena. Any particular reason they don't include all the cards they print? If I understand correctly wizards owns arena and makes all the cards

[@aaronarmenta4237]

@@TheGreyProphet arena only does 2 player formats and devs have to code every card in commander just doesn’t fit and if they did you still wouldn’t be able to play commander cards in other formats

[@TheGreyProphet]

@@aaronarmenta4237 huh, wild. I only play commander, didnt know the thing about commander products being illegal in other formats. Seems dumb but doesn't affect me so I don't care.

[@aaronarmenta4237]

@@TheGreyProphet the only formats there allowed in are legacy I think and it’s because of how insane the power-scaling is on then commander cards are some of the most pushed and broken cards in magic

[@lindzeesouperocd7558]

Editor come on, he's killing himself out there.

[@kats7930]

I don't think I like Attrata, but I looove ninjas, so I'm so conflicted here!

[@zacharymccutcheon8607]

25:35. Why didn't it let us dodge the removal by ninjaing the ornithopter?

[@dichsedichse]

As it was after seth declared attackers but before (no) blockers were declared. As such the ornithopter was attacking but not yet unblocked. And only un blocked creatures can be used for ninjitsu.

[@alecausderbeek5918]

Uff I am so sorry to say that everytime I try to give Historic a chance, I always remind myself why I should not need to do that in the future. Coll deck though ;-)

[@davidross5305]

Honestly this deck feels pretty sweet but it also feels less like a build around Etrata and more of ninjas which happens to run Etrata, the deck would probably be better with replacing her with some type of utility spell

[@freya002YT]

Neat

[@Hall15tc]

Bro, how are you still calling it bonded courier? It's been years

[@Curt-ze6hl]

Teferi Land. I hate that place. Lol

[@MaxMckayful]

WoTC: Prints notoriously hard alt win condition Saffron Olive: Challenge accepted

[@facepalmjesus1608]

just wear a Helm of the Host on Etrata! ;) or Mirror Box and cast clone spells on her

[@tommygol15br]

Slip out the back and Nico also seem good with Etrata

[@ManOfTrades]

You could have done a chowder intro. Instead of rada rada it could be Etrata Etrata!

[@kojy372650]

11:06 lightning bolt is legal in Historic!! Since when???

[@GMStarson]

The herald that was played earlier conjurs 3 copies of lighting bolt into your deck every time it attacks. You can't start with it.

[@jaredgottschall7]

wait who is this guy talking? he didn't do an intro, so i have no idea who the handsome fellow is.

[@ackbooh9032]

hahaha

[@ODIRGO]

Did you even used Satoru at all?? I think you can take out that card from the deck and play something more useful.

[@markcarr154]

I don’t play arena anymore and still hate blue white control

[@jangrokortenhaus3036]

sweet but drawing Etrata seems nearly impossible xD

[@LightninSharples]

i havent commented much yet, but i like this channel you guys run. a lot of "fun" and creative deck ideas, and thanks for doing the testing and sharing the results! love it!--- that said, i think my bottom line will be; this deck is nothing to write home about.

[@RuffianSoldier]

i think it counts tbh

[@lordmeep5803]

Sa too roo 😂😭😭😭😭

[@yarrrthekraken]

Wait. Who is doing this video? What is this another episode of? Is there some other name the host is probably better known as????

[@user-sq7ry5vx7t]

Here to support ninjas, not historic

[@losergamer7282]

I really like Against the Odds segment. Deck brewing is what I like in Magic. I stopped playing constructed because everyone wants to win and not actually playing the game. For me, winning is just an additional compare to experiencing the game.

[@DonovanPresents]

These matches made me not like the Meta you played against, Seth.

[@gnarly814]

that burn player played very poorly

[@kojy372650]

Agreed. But how did he play lightning bolt, I thought it was banned...

[@yarrrthekraken]

Also, I loathe Unholy Heat. Hate it in modern, absolutely cant stand it in Historic.

[@Zmartinez77]

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[@BeastlyP1g]

This comment is to say I love your content and will watch regardless, but I was pretty bummed when I saw it was historic…

[@alexhill2495]

What would you suggest? A significantly less good and interesting combo from the Standard format?

[@archmage6725]

I feel you dude. I don’t play arena anymore but love Seth’s content. I stopped caring for Historic when they put alchemy in. I still like to see what Seth comes up with, but I don’t have an interest in actually playing it.

[@Lucat27]

@@alexhill2495 maybe Pioneer? I think this deck still works in Pioneer.

[@notSoAverageGuineaPigEnjoyer]

Are you the real DeFer?

[@arthurkeech]

He's ready said he is swapping to Explore with its release

[@ecody85]

Salty ropers is one thing, but I don't think it's as bad as someone who scoops early to a Chandra ultimate when there at 2 life points.. just saying you had a chance definitely an early scoop on your end why you get the thumbs down.. other than that keep up the amazing work n maybe just try not too try soo hard all the time..

[@burningbelow4424]

Omg STOP saying opponent like that so nasally and low. I want to mute you but you have valuable information...

[@marshall4439]

I was watching for a while, then Hearthstone cards started showing up and I don't play that game so I stopped. Really wish Magic didn't decide it wanted to merge with a worse game that way.

[@PlayMadness]

I wonder how much longer "Seth says Kamigawa card names wrong on purpose" stays a joke before it turns into "Seth makes fun of the Japanese language," cause it's really starting to feel gross.

[@nachschub4836]

Why are we playing historic? It is a dead horrible format since the Alchemy Release haven't played Arena since 1 week after the alchemy Release. Don't get me wrong I love against the odds I love alt win conditions my Bant Helix pinnacle deck is one of my favorites but I don't see a reason why you should play historic who cares about that wasted potential of a Format that is historic?

[@SeanteBrown]

Any deck I see with ninja 🥷 or Etrata is getting auto like 👍🏾 and at least 3 views