EUIV Extended Timeline The Roman Empire 1

[@MrMKKupa]

Lol, "i'm gonna use mercs" That's appart how the roman empire fell in real life

[@williamlinley1402]

I may be 4 years late but you are certainly correct sir.

[@Mars-ww2fs]

I must agree even if I'm 4 years late so I would like to say that I like beans.

[@jimpa7011]

I might be 4 years late but actually the Roman empire fell cuz they didn't lower their autonamy and didn't get Maritime ideas.

[@juhaszmate5095]

@@jimpa7011 shouldve went for humanist instead

[@thadarasx4]

Rome, the Celestial Empire. Seriously, that discipline nerf to the Romans make absolutely no sense at all. Roman legionaries were some of the most disciplined fighting forces in the world at the time.

[@oritemis]

+thadarasx4 at the history!

[@robmarney]

+thadarasx4 I think they're trying to model the slow decline of the Roman legions with a single big modifier, rather than a series of annoying Victoria 2-style triggered events.

[@LJFRY1974]

+Robert Marney I don't see the problem as long as it's not U.S civil war level events. holy shit the copperheads

[@blasterjosh]

+thadarasx4 Yeah I think it's supposed to represent that a lot of romans were out of practice fighting for a very long time in this 200 years of peace

[@MrTormentus]

+blasterjosh Only thing is at year 58 they were still fighting constantly and had not even reached the top of their game.

[@brendanobrien8198]

Rome "Lets hire mercs." Helps the decline of Rome Arumba "Lets hire mercs."

[@HadrianLP]

Well, you just made my day. Going to be paying close attention to this series.

[@oritemis]

So +Arumba, right now you are at the peak of the empire. At 200 hundred years you will start to decline and in 400 years is when you are screwed. To survive you need to reach there. The main differences are in tech, in 400 years the barbarians will have an almost insurmountable advantage in tech. Just keep playing in speed 5 and you will enjoy. Cheers.

[@oritemis]

Also you need to check factions, they are VERY significant.

[@Sirholyphoenix]

To avoid the invasions you can just vassalize one German Lord and sell him all your border provinces and that is it no barbarian invasion

[@candy-ass4915]

+Sirholyphoenix Really? wow. Sounds kinda cheatsy but I love it.

[@Sirholyphoenix]

Peter's Pan Well yeah it how the event works, for the invasions they need to border the Roman empire, the Western Roman empire, the Byzantine empire, or the kingdom of Gallia

[@oritemis]

I would rather see the invasion...

[@pzsilospasz2668]

It is going to be a challenge because the barbarians go crazy in 200 hundred years. Also there are pre scripted events.

[@Norbert92]

+Pzsilos pasz "200 hundred", caused me several brainfarts

[@joezzzify]

+Pzsilos pasz Two hundred hundred years?

[@djenovah8915]

+BoelliLoL I thought it started in 2194

[@boellilol9551]

Daniel Jenovah as a pre story to the new anno? x)

[@CzechAvailabilitie]

+BoelliLoL 1889 actually.

[@pzsilospasz2668]

It helps to culture convert as much as possible. Just forget diplo tech for 100 years.

[@averagejacobinsubscriber]

+Pzsilos pasz Roman mass Genocide?

[@tortex1]

+Evan Nelson I prefer to call it assimilation.

[@Nikolaj11]

+zzkill1 "polite genocide"

[@jachthejoke3589]

+Siusir98 Ethnic cleansing

[@hakairyu1]

+Pzsilos pasz The culture conversion that this game represents varies from colonial-like settlement to forced assimilation. Genocide is not that viable an option with the population figures taken into count.

[@julianmelillo]

Saying now, this game is gonna bother arumba

[@michaelkazam8432]

Arumba .. Come the year 390-430 .. around that time ... then things get hard, theres events that makes things very hard for the romans

[@kevindonnelly1408]

Finally yesssssss finally I love watching Roman Empire in extended time line

[@johnfrommanagement6037]

do A LOT of culture conversions

[@marvelfannumber1]

Ahw yeah! I have been waiting for this for ages!

[@exigentflame8201]

Yesss! Looked forward to this so much

[@guyfromcollege]

Arumba you should check out the mod Common Universalis, it adds a plethora of new features. Also I would recommend playing a Republic.

[@ianbouchard9244]

+Awesome McBadass The Roman Empire was a republic, actually. The emporer had only a bit more power than the counselors

[@noahaist9401]

+Ian Bouchard (Irium) I thought Julius Caeser when he finished his war campaigns made himself emperor and gave himself all the power, isn't that why he had a lot of enemies? Or am I misremembering...

[@rbd6502]

+Noah Aist he never made himself emperor, he mightve wanted to, but he got assassinated ways before that ever happened. his adopted son did though

[@mattpechulis3181]

+Noah Aist You are not that wrong, however Julius Caeser had a lot of enimies because they were the Romans. Who wouldn't like to hate the big guys?

[@mitchellsanderson8522]

+Noah Aist As the others said he only became a dictator, not Emperor. BUT, after Augustus became emperor, the senate held little to know power and the Emperor had near absolute authority, unlike what Ian said

[@timpi3000]

HYYYYYYYYYYYPE. Arumba the great finally goes at it.

[@therealcece971]

Arumba you are killing me. You have like thirty book marks to choice from. And you keep picking this one. Fine! I will watch it, but I will only enjoy it a lot!

[@oliver1355]

YEEESSSSSS!!!!!I have been waiting for this!

[@averagejacobinsubscriber]

Thanks Arumba! You're awesome for listening to me!

[@Dustin9933]

Wow I just finished a Rome campaign!

[@levikowalski948]

not the full 9999 i hope

[@averagejacobinsubscriber]

+Levi Kowalski You hope...

[@erikole211]

+Levi Kowalski there is no way he play until 9999 and doesnt own the whole world

[@Dustin9933]

Levi Kowalski Woah, no! I don't think anybody in the world has enough time for that! Although there is probably somebody out there who did complete the whole 9999....

[@CCool6]

+Dustin9933 Someone who runs from 58 to 9999 really has to much spare time...

[@Erik20766]

18:40 I like how he used the calculator for that one. Looking forward to this campaign though

[@Lords1997]

I'm so psyched about this campaign!

[@iamruffy]

Real excited for this series!

[@TheIroncatfish]

Hail Caesar!

[@antwhiteledge7359]

Hail Caesar!

[@Whuffless]

Hail Caesar!

[@Jtm60001]

+TheIroncatfish Ave True to Caesar

[@Ivel18]

Hail Sithis!

[@noahaist9401]

Hail Caesar!

[@zo4199]

*Heavy Breathing*

[@BastianKeyHimself]

I’d love to see arumba do this run again

[@marvelfannumber1]

Also the empire doesn't usually collapse in this mod because of ending the Pax Romana, it happens mostly due to fucking brutal faction events and rebels. Even if the AI somehow manages to survive that the barbarian invasions event happens around 390 A.D, and at that point they will either split in 2 or fall completely.

[@norbertkocsis5945]

I have a test in latin about roman gods tomorrow,so thanks for making this video!

[@theultrahorseman]

arumba instead of 15 stacks do 30 stacks 15 cav and 15 infantry. put the cav in first wait a day then put in the infantry so u get only 1 day of bad support and still take advantage of the cav is better situation :)

[@theultrahorseman]

+theultrahorseman don't forget to use the advance one day button ;)

[@Belkak021]

+theultrahorseman the problem with that is supply limit and the fact that combat with is 15 so having more than that, besides cannons, is just a waste and you´ll lose a lot more morale

[@excession100]

I've been playing this campaign, unrest is a real pain in the backside!

[@MKotnis]

Emperor Arumba? Gods help us all

[@calebweldon8102]

The event that happens in a few hundred years strengthens the barbarians trust me they are almost impossible to defend against.

[@eldermartins3220]

I adopted Christianity and then quickly converted as many provinces as I could, then I started changing their culture to Roman. The advantage you have is that you have the largest army in the whorld, so no one will ever dare o declare war on you if you don't build up aggressive expansion. So, once the Roman-Parthian war is over, don''t expand any further and use your army and resources to fix your internal issues. I managed to have my house in order by 395 AD. I even managed to expand a little by this time, conquering all British Isles. When the Barbarians started declaring war, I alerady had them surrounded by forts and a good army. They are programmed to be stronger than you, but you can be stronger than them if you manage to prepare yourself first. Si vis pacem, para bellum. Once you fix Rome's internal problems and annex all the Barbarian tribes, Rome is UNSTOPPABLE. Parthia was no match for me and I ate up China real quick. This campaign was great. i managed to conquer the whole world by 1908.

[@MoonchildTerabite]

Failure is not an option, Arumba!

[@AndrewIsbell]

Thanks Arumba!

[@domesticcat1725]

Got an ad with danny devito before the video. Instant like

[@simsbury88]

end the pax romana. Empire Destabilized doesn't stay until the end of time. It goes away after like a year.

[@ashfire1438]

+Colin Churchill No it lasts forever when he hovers over the decision it says until 9999

[@simsbury88]

I know, but I've played as the Roman Empire in Extended Timeline and gotten rid of it and the modifier goes away after a year or so.

[@ashfire1438]

+Colin Churchill Ah my bad then, ive never played as the Romans so i did not know of that event.

[@domehammer]

+Colin Churchill The religious unity though is very useful.

[@maru-zee]

Using all mercs and attempting to beat Parthia...well done repeating the mistakes of history Arumba xD I really hope you understand Parthia was one of the three great empires in the period (Rome, Parthia, Chi). Don't underestimate them!

[@Belkak021]

+Atomic the thing is in eu4 the only downside of mercs is their cost nothing more

[@8jijjoo126]

Someshta Mercs can't backstab you in EU4

[@VRichardsn]

Hey, Vivaldi in the background. Classy.

[@SolusBatty]

Finally! It has begun!

[@mrkk666]

Imagining what it would be like when Emperor Arumba has Parthia under boot and every time there is some problem parthian swarms will deal with it.

[@wesleyquere3735]

+mrkk666 Its the subjugation of Armenia, not Parthia. ^^

[@mrkk666]

Wesley Quéré God damn it x,D

[@velikiradojica]

Can't you just attack with 15 cav and reinforce with 15 infantry the next day?

[@Specificify]

+velikiradojica Wow. Bloody smart.

[@Vengeance993]

+velikiradojica You can just attack with pure cav armies if you want honestly. They will have a lower tactics, increasing the damage they take, but since they deal double damage compared to infantry anyway it won't really matter.

[@8jijjoo126]

velikiradojica 1. insufficent support 2. more expensive 3. not exploiting flank range

[@yayafino]

I died when arumba said "More... I want more!"

[@Democlis]

there are events to take down the empire too, like for example when the barbarians reach a certain tech level they will come in a huge wave to kill you.. (unless you take them down now that you are still 2 or 3 centiuries away from the point where it can trigger.)

[@marvelfannumber1]

+Democlis Thing is though, overextension absolutely wrecks the empire. I find the best strategy is to create a wall of vassals preventing the barbarians from declaring war.

[@SimonDorQC]

For historical accuracy, Constantinople should be named Byzantium. Would have been nice to have some event with that.

[@MegaRandom00]

No idea what is going on, but I love the music!

[@brianl569]

ABOUT TIME

[@bcknowles1]

Happy days, Pax Romana Shall extend forever! Don't be afraid to just sit at speed five for a while, I'd like to see what you think about how tech is implemented in this mod.

[@alexioskomnenos5290]

Late watcher here, but it's so unrealistic how fast Christianity spread here. Basically when Constantine recognized it, it was barely at about 1% of the population at best, if that. It only became the majority religion after successor emperors restricted freedom of religion, burned temples, banned people of certain religions from public office (could be represented by increased advisor cost, weaker generals etc), burned libraries and killed other non Christian Romans that it became a majority religion etc. If the game was more accurate, Christianity should cause massive unrest wherever it is, lowering production and increasing tech cost by a massive amount (in part due to Christianity inciting massive religious conflicts, the Middle Ages was a period of complete recession eco wise until around the 1100s for the West, and the 800s for Eastern Rome, compared to classical Rome which grew by 300% of GDP or so during the Pax Romana (300% over 200 years or so, which is tiny today, but unprecedented at that time in history). In exchange for all of these drawbacks, Christianity would have much higher tolerance of true faith (say 5 compared to 2). Missonary strength should be relatively weak, as it did take until around 800 - 900 C.E for Eastern Rome to convert away the last of the hellenistic followers. It would also increase legitimacy growth (to standard EU4 levels as time goes on), as the main reason Constantine converted was that under Hellenism, he was just a man who had seized power and proclaimed himself emperor, but under Christianity, the doctrine was that he was divinely ordained by 'God'. At the end of the day, I feel the mod goes far too much for historical determinism, when one single decision by anyone important back then could have radically altered all of history. Theoretically an industrial revolution by the 1100s (after the first waves of plague and the worst of the global cooling period) was an entirely possible event. TL:DR: Christianity spread unrealistic, should be far rarer and easier to convert away. If Empire converted, should cause massive unrest, increase tech cost for centuries (until at least 90% religious unity is achieved, early conversion speed should be very slow (slower than EU4 base), +500% tech cost to simulate the destruction of libraries, intolerance of other religions leading to incompetents in public office, etc). In history it took Eastern Rome till the 500s to recover, and the remnants of the West till at least the 1100s till education levels got back to classical era standards (and in the West literacy rates continued to be worse than classical Rome till the EU4 era) In exchange tolerance of true faith would go up (other tolerances go way down), and legitimacy gains would go to EU4 levels.

[@MrHamof]

14:00 Sure it does, it reinforces the morale which will let you win.

[@devonealy5615]

"we start at war with Partha, Ok very well" XD omg he dont even care lol

[@Cswartz9]

Knowing very little about this mod, I'd guess that you might get some nasty events when you're at war with the Pax Romana.

[@jett2688]

Eventually, everyone will declare war on him without a casual beli, and he will get a modifier that hurts his army

[@disguy67]

lol when the last sarmation subversion episode today people were talking on how they wanted arumba to play a roman campaign

[@iccolo]

im looking forward to this

[@dogs10188]

"I wonder if its just because that they take that empire they collapse" do you not see the full page of rebel factions in the outliner?

[@TheSpaceHamster]

Any interest in Roma Universalis? Pretty well built mod. Then again, I'm not as familiar with ET mod.

[@thebladeofchaos]

Just guess here, I think ending Pax Romana's Penalty is more an event driven one instead of timed. the Victoria Ultimate Mod des that as well

[@thedemon0843]

This mod now has a discord check out the steam workshop page for the link!

[@shadowgearaudio293]

I’ve played with extended timeline before. I notice through cheats and observation that the Roman ai tends to end pax romana as their first act which is why they tend to lose.

[@alllivesmatter5008]

Where do you get the mod?

[@shadowgearaudio293]

Vanbel Manik I got extended timeline mod through the steam workshop. As for the cheats and observation. I used console commands. No mods used there.

[@josephdragunov374]

Are you using a graphics mod? If yes, what is it?

[@shanadir]

wouldn't it make more sense to collect from trade in venice and english channel?

[@rcutler9]

Play some fallout 4 with futuristic fredegar

[@kevindonnelly1408]

Yes plz do

[@zombiegun71]

+rcutler9 imo, that game is really boring to watch :/

[@PolicyofIllusion]

+rcutler9 But Arumba only plays *good* games.

[@SuperCompany007]

+rcutler9 It's not really Arumba's kind of game.

[@rcutler9]

I know but i loved his skyrim game(while it worked)

[@Maceroniandcheese]

Arumba, are you sure you want to enable scutage on your vassals? It is probable that one of the main components to Rome's fall in EU 4 is war exhaustion from attrition.

[@TimeToMine830]

Romans start off with out road building... excuse me?

[@danyork1665]

I'm excited.

[@rskoolherc345]

I don't understand why they didn't include Ancient era unit reskins for this mod?

[@SDBandit]

Arumba any chance of seeing you play a total war game ?

[@nayvinandalex]

why would the armies be weak? this is a time period where the roman military was probably more at its best

[@grahamperkins1967]

i would maybe like to see a dacian campaign with this mod

[@Sforschondetta]

is there another mod he is using or is it a dlc i dont have. he has many smaller provinces and bold borders. looks a lot nicer

[@firefox3249]

I'm really not sure that recruiting mercs is a good idea. Historically, the Roman empire fell into anarchy because of ambitious barbarian mercs that weren't being paid.... what could possibly go wrong by repeating history...

[@NGCAnderopolis]

"just use mercs" exactly what the romans did, turn out in real life having your army made of individuals not loyal to the state is a bad idea.

[@Georgi_Balansky]

PLS tell me how to install Extended Timeline I have installd but in menu it shows again 1444 not 54 pls help me

[@MrWillsaysrave]

@17m how did you sub that army?! I had no idea that was possible!!!

[@labtecldlc]

you should try the mod "nova imperium" it's cool. The only problem is that it's in french but the english traduction will be released one day^^

[@kristopherwatts9466]

THANK YOU :D

[@xaviers.a.359]

Arumba why you never played in VeF mod?

[@TheDeath5fan]

i didnt know euiv had pre-medieval gameplay

[@tteedghihh]

+Jaded Outcast Modzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@MadScientist3000]

that's Istanbul, not Constantinople.

[@Aqualightnin]

im a huge fan of arumba, and a friend just bought me this game as a gift, but i legitimately have no idea whats going on in large sections of these videos at times, anyone have a good recommendation for a playthrough where someone sort of teaches the game as they go? perhaps another playthrough of arumbas? the in game tutorial is very very minimal.

[@aaazz11999]

+ChrisEngle87 The in game tutorial is rather meh. I suppose that the best way to understand this game is watching videos. I got to know the game by watching Arumba's Poland campaign and then playing with some cheats to get a hang of most mechanics - took me around 3 full campaigns to finally understand the game fully with basic information from my friend and 20 hours on CKII. Bear in my mind that this video is about a mod that changes some aspects of the game if you play before 1444. Some of the things shown in Arumba's old videos were removed/added.

[@Aqualightnin]

problem is, all the big youtubers use tons of keyboard shortcuts (which we cant see) so it looks like things just magically happen as he talks about it, without learning how to do it.

[@aaazz11999]

I remember having a few difficulties with that as well. Most of the stuff is in the default key bindings (check the options) minus the reorganise troops part. There are few mods that add custom keybinds to the game, but I'm not sure if Arumba uses of these or a custom one. Sadly, you need learn some of those things that the tutorial does not cover yourself. It's very offputting, but once you get the hang of it after a two or three full games, you should be fine.

[@mrsirful]

Hmmm, I'm pretty sure the rl Roman Empire got itself in trouble by using mercs too much.

[@bitterlemonboy]

my dad finally bought this game for me

[@WillTellU]

I find ir fine to just do 15 stacks and throw them into the fight. Screw the manpower, get some mercs and just do battles. You'll win eventually.

[@randomguy-tw6fg]

lets see what is wrong with our country everything welll crap

[@Acularius]

You're going to have so much fun... if you are a masochist.

[@j75432]

Did he end the Sarmation series???

[@DragonSlapper64]

you should play 2015 greece -> byzantium -> Roman Empire

[@jonsnow5869]

Is there an extended timeline mod für CK2?

[@enzop177]

Veniēs, vidēbis, at vincēre

[@Dynamo128]

hey, what graphics mods do you use?

[@TheSwirlyMango]

Collect in Venice or the English Channel

[@roderiknemes]

Hello.Where can I download the mod?

[@erisboxxx]

Where can I download this mod?

[@mikeyb5591]

The goal of the campaign is to conquer Ming or else.

[@Baalshazar]

I hope this is a challenge.

[@AurOn-lz8uv]

+XxBaalshazarxX 90% of the problems is going to be tech, and rebels. It's going to be a boring campaign.

[@spzer2557]

+AurOn2401 yep

[@Original-pi7em]

What graphics mod is that

[@DibbzTheLoner]

I checked the mod files for Extended Timeline, the AI will never revoke the Pax Romana. That decision is purely there for human players. The AI is just terrible at managing large empires in this game... even without any scripted bad events or modifiers an AI Rome would quickly fall apart.

[@nxthingbutv0id958]

Dose any one know wat visual mod he used

[@magicalfartdust5956]

+Arumba try changing to another religion in some of the choices you can make because the Roman religion is weak.

[@seyongpark205]

Dose he even play this game before? he havent enough time to ready for beats rebels. and culture are separated a part. but he start war anyway.

[@Trizoo-nbr]

Keep this going until 1453

[@smegmabutter3725]

damn that like to dislike ratio