Unveiling China's Type 054B Frigate: 5 Key Questions Answered

[@fatdoi003]

this is what a frigate should be, cheap, simple and fast to build.... not a destroyer stuffed into a frigate.... cough constellation cough

[@enshk79]

It's a much better philosophy for military tech. Over complication won't last long on the real battlefield. You need something reliable, simple, and easy to scale. it's all about quantity

[@MaxSupercars]

You're right but it depends from purpose. Smaller vessels got smaller space so they can not accomodate large amount of fuel and other supplies for longer operations in deep/blue water. So frigates are designed for near coast operations.

[@fatdoi003]

@ that's why 4000t 054A gone up to 5500-6000t 054B

[@andrew6815]

​@@MaxSupercars not everything needs to be designed with the capacity to circumnavigate the globe without resupply. Theater operations should be plenty for many of our front line assets like frigates and conventional attack subs (which we should also be building). We've gotta get away from this idea that everything has to be nuclear powered and/or long endurance. We don't have those kinds of resources anymore (if we ever did)

[@kauwei]

Constellation was supposed to be cheap, simple, and fast to build until Agent Smith needed more money for more luxury cars🤣

[@amackzie]

these guys have a new ship everyday

[@shawnmen9805]

This is not surprising at all considering that China accounts for more than 50 of the global shipbuilding capacity.

[@RadicalFloat_95]

​@@shawnmen9805I actually genuinely agree with you

[@livefree1030]

China Produces 276 Naval Ships for every 1 US Naval Vessel China Commission 16 new Naval Ships Annually

[@RadicalFloat_95]

@livefree1030 I actually genuinely agree with you

[@落苏-v8f]

You have to know that China has not yet completed national reunification.

[@MajorGeneralWoff]

Interviewed by SCMP? You're moving up in the world

[@moss550]

Or moving down. SCMP one of the most pro Washington Liberal news paper once owned by Rupert Murdoch. It's credibility on China issue is on the level of other Murdoch news paper.

[@Amidat]

yup. especially since they are usually anti PRC since they are a British colonial holdover - lol

[@lingchenzeng5745]

ngl, scmp's report on military is nowhere near as good as our guy here. they really should just pay him to be a columnist for their chinese military matters🤣

[@flamestar4379]

南华专业性远不如博主

[@Mearex_]

lol what? SCMP is just anti-china propaganda

[@WilliamCheung-h2c]

That is a beautiful ship. Great lines.

[@cashflownpv]

That ship is beautiful regardless of ability

[@cabasadefogo9533]

The fact that PLAN only built 2 type 54B and continues to build 54A shows that type 54B is more of a transitional model like the type 52B before they ironed out the tech and started to mass produce the type 52D destroyer.

[@dailm8056]

The 054B is more inclined to stronger anti-submarine warfare, even against deep-sea nuclear submarines. The 054A is the last batch ordered, and sooner or later, there will be no more orders for this batch.

[@The_Riddler21]

The Dragon Has Awaken !!! ✌️💪👌

[@欧阳敏敏]

Hi friend, which country are you from

[@lukasalves2161]

​​@@欧阳敏敏hi from Brazil

[@loktom4068]

And the Thanksgiving turkey is done.

[@欧阳敏敏]

​@@loktom4068你是白头鹰吗

[@BruceSarbi]

Good stuff. In fact I was reading the article earlier ! I just wish they replace the YJ-83 with YJ-12.

[@Amidat]

YJ 12 is too big for it. Plus its about having layers. Just like in the Ukraine war - it shows the importance of long and mid and short range defenses on land. Same at sea. The destroyers are for long range... The frigates are more for hunting subs - and shorter range anti air and anti ship. The frigates are supposed to chase away subs so the destroyers can fight the longer range adversaries.

[@tamimkhan742]

A mass producing frigate which costs less than 500 million can dramatically change balance of power, china can build 24 advance frigate per us aircraft carrier which cost 12 billion dollar

[@shanepatrick4534]

Apples and oranges.

[@antwango]

@@shanepatrick4534 not either or.... China has both apples and oranges and far juicier too

[@tamimkhan742]

@shanepatrick4534 it doesng matter, sometimes quantity is a quality of itself, specially in a age of missiles, aircraft carriers have never been more vulnerable than today

[@shanepatrick4534]

@@tamimkhan742 how much does it cost to maintain 24 ships for 15 years? Building a big navy and maintaining one are two different things.

[@RadicalFloat_95]

​​@@tamimkhan742I actually genuinely agree with you and you actually couldn't have said that actually any better than me and out of all the languages that you chose to speak you chose to speak facts.

[@anthonyjames1543]

Another great analysis. Thanks Eurasia Naval Insight.

[@乔·拜登-d6p]

二战期间美国是全球拥有最强大的造船工业的国家，有上百家船厂，有接近百万的造船工人，可以同时建造12艘300米以上级别的主力舰，能建造150米以上船舰的船厂就超过了50家，从1941年12月7日至1945年10月1日，在不到4年的时间里，美国就建造了1323艘主要战斗舰艇，其中有138艘航母，包括24艘大型航母，10艘轻型航母，110艘护航航母。另外还有10艘战列舰，52艘巡洋舰，349艘驱逐舰，561艘护卫舰，203艘潜艇，按照简单平均计算，相当于22个月建造一艘45,000吨的大型航母，83天出一艘3万吨的埃塞克斯级航母，13天完工一艘万吨级的护航航母，7天下水一艘潜艇，4天下水一艘驱逐舰，2天半下水一艘护卫舰。这样的建造速度是当时轴心国所望城莫及的，不光是军舰，民船的建造规模和速度，同样令人叹为观止万吨级自由号货轮是二战中美国工业能力的一个象征，在1941年到1945年前，18个美国船坞共计建造了2751艘自由号货轮高峰时期的1942年，还创造了平均55天内交付82艘自由号的记录，相当于每两天就有三艘万吨货轮下水堪称奇迹，1943年当年，美国下水的船舶总吨位达到2170万吨，其中军舰250万吨，民船1920万吨，而偷袭珍珠港之前的日本海军及所有大小舰艇加起来也不过才119万吨，可以说。正是强大的造船能力和那些成万吨的钢铁巨轮，帮助美国和同盟国赢得了二战的胜利。 现在中国造船业是美国的270倍😂

[@Mearex_]

你这是光考虑了数量，质量比数量更重要

[@Pin0fPoints]

@@Mearex_you say that while knowing well that the Type 055 Renhai Destroyers are hailed as one of the best and most capable ships ever set sail on modern waters

[@wtx619]

⁠@@Mearex_虎式对t34有话说

[@Wudayei]

然后美国发现玩金融不仅轻松来钱快还不污染环境就把一个垄断行业拱手送给两个小弟，这两个小弟还玩脱了现在美国的船壳都开始外包了

[@snapper69996666]

What is the rectangle plate on one side at the front of the ship?

[@gelinrefira]

It's the anchor. Hides the anchor from radar.

[@sinocare]

@@gelinrefiraI don’t think so. It has one anchor directly under the bow, the black object.

[@sinocare]

It is indeed puzzling. Take a wild guess, a hatch for launching torpedoes. The other side doesn’t have a similar design.

[@mwxfl-q9h]

​@@sinocareMicrowave weapons, water defense, things similar to drones and unmanned ships close to the sea

[@RSingh100]

its your moms undies drying out 😂😂

[@BTYFDONGLE]

I hope that they really beefed up the power generation and put in an IPS.

[@Amidat]

can you do an episode - if you have the intel - on if/how the 054 are able to communicate with China's own submarines to hunt subs... And/or China's submarine detecting planes. I figure a lot of it might be secret - but any insight would be cool to hear.

[@gorlestondoug]

Its a very nice looking ship for sure but for me the type 054a is still the best looking frigate in the PLAN.

[@hariskhan4701]

Can you shed some light on the Z 21 attack helicopter.

[@syncmaster915n]

3:57 naval version of making donuts

[@kylexu227]

the 100mm gun is interesting. does it have programmable air burst munitions?

[@Nicolas-v2w]

Bonjour , merci . pendant que les USA agissaient pour imposer le transgenre et l'immigration , la Chine travaille durement pour devenir compétitifs militairement . Félicitations à ce grand pays de vivre dans le réel . Bonne journée .

[@Leosenna-m8e]

与美国星座级对比，很好的回答当下是去造一艘旧船还是一艘新船

[@amievil3697]

She is a good looking ship 9 out of 10

[@aquilesdourado]

Não sei porquê colocar so 32 celulas, o casco parece ter espaço sobrando na frente do navio, poderiam ser 48 ou 64 esse seria um enorme aumento de poder de fogo para essas fragtas e para o PLA

[@欧阳敏敏]

054b is mainly anti submarine, it is not air defense or anti-ship, so it does not require so many launch units

[@欧阳敏敏]

054b is a frigate primarily used for anti submarine operations. We also have the almost completed 057 cruiser, which will enter service in 2027. The 057 has a displacement of 24000 tons, 248 launch units, and electromagnetic guns. The firepower is completely sufficient. The combat capability of one 057 is equivalent to three 055s

[@aquilesdourado]

@@欧阳敏敏 thanks for explecation

[@fatdoi003]

i think the question should be if those VLS cells are universal size of the smaller one..... as universal can quad pack for medium range SAM... if 1/2 of them is quad packed, it has 80 missiles in total

[@AlexMartinez-ep8fx]

VIVA CHINA

[@mohamedayman5666]

Sorry but Does indians still believe they can compete against China?

[@BeelP.]

Arrogance and hubris says yes, they do make that assertion

[@GGLEDOU]

Yes, in their dream, which is free.

[@Alocloki-e2g]

ahhh😂@@SadabKhan-j9y

[@zhugeliang3905]

@mohamedayman5666 Powered by stinky curry.

[@antwango]

lol India the joke that keeps on giving..... maybe they have 100,000 Indians balancing on the exterior of the ship to prove its seaworthiness

[@craigywaigy4703]

@01:00 ish that isn' bad seam joints,,.but.more likely reactive armour with RAM coatings! China is learning from the Moskva!

[@Excalabur50]

I wonder why she has a rectangle indent on the starboard bow just behind the number and not on the port side?

[@bugmouthready529]

Torpedo tube

[@Excalabur50]

@@bugmouthready529 Normally torpedo's are fired from both sides of a ship.

[@definitelyfrank9341]

Perhaps it carries an anchor.

[@Excalabur50]

@@definitelyfrank9341 Someone else suggested that in a different comment but you can clearly see the anchor on the nose of the bow, so I'm suspecting not.

[@meanstavrakas1044]

My American friends LAUGH at the Chinese Navy. In their simple minds they can not fathom that China could even build such a fleet. They say they "can't project power". They are STUPID! The Chinese Fleet is STRONG! And I say "They just need to be able to smother Taiwan and defend their coast out to 2,000 Miles/3,000KMs, and they can!"

[@乔·拜登-d6p]

尼米兹号明年退役正在办理退休手续 华盛顿号休了六年刚修好，准备测试 里根号还在横须贺趴窝 斯坦尼斯号理论上修到2026年完工 杜鲁门号进入2025年大修期，预计当六年宅男 福特号电磁弹射，升降机故障连连无法部署 肯尼迪号不但完工日期遥遥无期，还起了几次火，甚至还要拆零件给福特号用 实际美国能拉出来航母只有三四艘尼米兹级都服役了三四十年马上退役 美国这些航母要给以色列撑场子，对付胡塞武装，对伊朗执行封锁任务，支持乌克兰与俄罗斯战争，保卫本土安全，吓唬拉丁美洲反美国家，还要来中国周边搞事情

[@jzNottobee]

廉颇老矣 尚能饭否！

[@msb3235]

I thought AESA radar doesn't rotate?

[@fatdoi003]

it doesn't have multiple panels to cover 360

[@akka2011hk]

The type 054B is against the US and Japanese in the South China Seas. As the Virginia class can launch Tomahawks LACM against China's mainland

[@Amidat]

and the Pacific... The type 054A would more hunt subs in the East China Sea... This - along with China's own subs - would more likely lead the way into the 2nd Island China for the destroyers...

[@fatdoi003]

even 054A can handle SCS duties... 054B for carrier groups outer perimeter defense

[@pooyasafaei2538]

I thought type 054B uses YJ-12

[@eberger02]

In the Russoukranian conflict the only real troublesome thing the Ukranian side (and hence USA) has been small-boat-drones. Unlike in the air there is lots of noise from waves on radar etc. The USA will have seen how everything else has sucked but them. I suspect China will have learnt from Russia and defeating small-boat-unmanned vehicle will be something they can now do, although it might not be obvious from the outside.

[@humbertochong9094]

China have now New Frigate and Corvette ship design ...👉🤫👉✌️👉🐉

[@picandvideo]

no. Not about Taiwan. It's for beyond third island chain.

[@GGLEDOU]

The U.S. along with its vassals boost China defense. 😂😂😂

[@zhugeliang3905]

Sir, Are you a real person or is it an AI voice?

[@RadicalFloat_95]

Real.

[@fatdoi003]

no AI can replicate Kiwi accent

[@catrojana3694]

Destroyer masquerading as frigate, this one has the cake and is eating it. 🙄

[@accountantthe3394]

It's funny because they do have Cruiser masquerading as a Destroyer 🤭 Then again, so does JSDF navy's "heli destroyer".

[@RadicalFloat_95]

​​@@accountantthe3394I actually genuinely agree with you and you actually couldn't have said that actually any better than me lol ❤😂🎉.

[@欧阳敏敏]

​@@accountantthe3394No, 055 is indeed a destroyer. China currently does not have cruisers, while 057 is a cruiser under construction and should be completed by the end of this year. 057 has a displacement of approximately 24000 tons and 248 launch shafts. This is the cruiser

[@欧阳敏敏]

​@RadicalFloat_95No, 055 is indeed a destroyer. China currently does not have cruisers, while 057 is a cruiser under construction and should be completed by the end of this year. 057 has a displacement of approximately 24000 tons and 248 launch shafts. This is the cruiser

[@RadicalFloat_95]

@欧阳敏敏 I actually genuinely agree with you

[@riversky33]

Unfortunately, none of Chinese warships has war experience; none of Chinese naval commanders or solders has war experience.

[@Flightman453]

No one cares.

[@bugmouthready529]

Tell me what country today has relevant modern naval battle experience?

[@LuobingSong]

i do not think 054b is a good price-performance ratio, although it is reasonable affordable around the world and do have some kind of good performance according to my source, type 054b triples the price as 054a, the question is 054a is so mature and so affordable, a consultation class frigate equals around 10 054a class frigate, yes this is very unbelievable, but in the field of ship building, China is something like this. about 60% new ships are built by cssc now. i think the answer will be continous build 054ag version which can guide longer range HQ16F with additional x band illuminater, and stop building 054b but turn to a larger frigate, 054b do not have significant improvement compares to old 054a, but because those radar and those hi-fi mask, the price raised alot. a 6500 tone new frigate, use same radar and similar electronic system, capable carrying 2 helicopter, having 48 750mm universal VLS, and better voyage capability than 054 even 052dl on high sea, and price less than 160% 054b will be a good choice.

[@laowantong3800]

And where did you get this triple price source?

[@dawuid1491]

Btw, SCMP is owned by China's Alibaba.

[@tonivang123]

AI here

[@jinshiksung]

파키스탄 일단 긴루트 인도를 직접 딜하기 귀챦지 인도 하는만큼 갸들도 해야될꺼 아냐

[@gelinrefira]

It's a combined diesel and gas propulsion. I think you got your intel wrong this time.

[@EurasiaNaval]

I think it's a combined diesel and diesel setup. I could be wrong and the consensus changes all the time, but a search still show most people believing it's four diesel engines.

[@johnseah5678]

@@EurasiaNaval What do you think will be the max speed? Will this Type 076A frigate be fast enough to keep up with a PLAN carrier battle group (led by a Type 003 or Type 004 carrier) if it uses a CODAD or a CODAG configuration with twin shafts?

[@gelinrefira]

@@EurasiaNaval Zhuang Xuefeng has confirmed that it is CODAG on his channel and on XHS and he is a very reliable PLA insider. I get what you mean though. Lots of western articles seems to still think it is CODAD. Interestingly, the bulgarian military com says it is CODAG and they seem to usually get these kind of things right. But I will rather trust a China industry insider's who has connections to the military industries words more than western media.

[@accountantthe3394]

​@@johnseah5678Type 76A frigate? 🤔

[@gelinrefira]

@@EurasiaNaval I dunno why YT is censoring my replies to you on where I got the information from.

[@khrystleooo6994]

Who knows if it works, they cant get computer chips.

[@Flightman453]

Cope

[@乔·拜登-d6p]

美国海军的第三艘福特级核动力航母企业号推迟到2029年9月份交付，这艘和福建舰几乎同时开工的航母本来应该在2028年3月交付，用来替换1975年服役的尼米兹二号舰艾森豪威尔号，因为艾森豪威尔号已经接近50年的服役期限，美国海军几乎所有在舰舰艇都将面临延迟交付的问题，其中星座级护卫舰首舰2029年才能交付比原计划晚了三年，哥伦比亚级弹道导弹核潜艇首艇要延迟16个月。弗吉尼亚级block5和block4型核动力攻击潜艇要延迟2~3年，此外美国及两栖攻击舰圣安东尼奥级两栖船坞登陆舰，阿利伯克级驱逐舰等舰艇，同样面临交付延迟问题，尼米兹号，艾森豪威尔号，卡尔文森号和罗斯福号核动力航母。都是上个世纪70 80年代的产物，已经服役了50年。美国核动力航母设计寿命是50年，由于核动力航母的核燃料设计寿命是50年超过年限维护成本更高，还会带来巨大风险。

[@GGLEDOU]

You're well informed. It's amazing. As to the U.S., this is the sign the country is broke. Karma hits.

[@ethanzhao3274]

讲真，这门炮能不能换换

[@texassabre7214]

India No1

[@antwango]

awwww of course you are baby

[@RadicalFloat_95]

​@@antwangoI actually agree

[@Chickenworm9394]

In PPT😂

[@RadicalFloat_95]

@Chickenworm9394 I actually genuinely agree with you

[@sexgod6909]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@hyh-jw1tl]

这艘护卫舰的配置很低😅😅

[@iteckrel]

Can the ccp bots tell me why Chinese failed rocket boosters land on villages

[@bugmouthready529]

Because accidents happen. Imagine if starship 7 had been on a slightly different trajectory over the Bahamas