J-35 Fighter Appears Unexpectedly on China's Liaoning Carrier

[@cabasadefogo9533]

The pace of development by China is simply amazing and breath taking. Wasn't it just yesterday that the Liaoning was inducted into the PLAN? Now it is being upgraded, wow!

[@simonschneider5913]

and unlike NATO ships, they might actually go places without a tug... ;)

[@danielch6662]

Felt like it was only yesterday that the US stopped China from buying their AWACS from Russia/Israel.

[@cabasadefogo9533]

@@simonschneider5913 bro that is a low blow LOLOL

[@jonahhekmatyar]

​@@simonschneider5913 lol, brits seething rn

[@simonschneider5913]

@@jonahhekmatyar Does the german navy even try to leave port anymore? The brits at the least tried to go big. They earned their participation award.. ..The french must be laughing, finally! ;)

[@silversurfergw]

Isn't the J 35 lighter than J 15? Then wouldn't taking off from ski jump be more feasible for J 35, after proper modifications to its landing gear. Thanks.

[@fdjw88]

It is lighter. And with a better engine, i would imagine taking off with the FC31 would be easier as well.

[@tren133]

It wouldn't need any modification to landing gear. If the J35's landing gear is designed to handle the stress of catapult launch, then it of course can just take off using a simple ski ramp. The only question would be how limited the fuel/payload options are for the J35 if it uses the ski jump versus a catapult.

[@EurasiaNaval]

Much thanks for the support. J-15 has a max take-off weight of 32+ tons, while J-35's max take-off weight is believed to be 28 tons. There has been widespread speculation that the J-35 will be used on Liaoning and Shandong up to this point, and the emergence of the model on these carriers adds further to that.

[@省油的灯省油的灯]

更主要是j35满弹也不多，因为可能主要执行对空任务，载弹只用内置弹仓。

[@bradgolding6847]

Another excellent video ENI, thank you.

[@EurasiaNaval]

Thank you too!

[@tamimkhan742]

It is very likely the new type-003 carrier will feature Operational j-35 fighters

[@hollowgonzalo4329]

No shit lol. Why would they bother making a new carrier that can't utilize their new naval fighters?

[@andrewsuryali8540]

Not until 2029 at the earliest. Chinese combat aircraft development length is roughly 8 years from first flight to IOC.

[@ntal5859]

Thanks Captain fucking obvious, without your insight we all be lost. You ldiot!

[@ntal5859]

@@andrewsuryali8540 Well considering it's first flight was in 2012 it's ready by your own estimate you fucking M0R0N.

[@DesignatedVictim]

@@andrewsuryali8540 Just so you know, the J-35 is derived from the FC-31 project, which made it's first flight in 2012.

[@sohaibkhan2685]

Amazing video as always🎉

[@EurasiaNaval]

Thank you so much 😀

[@seraphx26]

This matches my prediction, no reason to not use J-35s on all carriers going forward, I went against the grain because what most people were saying didn't make sense, if you're going to design a fifth generation carrier fighter you really want to be using it on all carriers otherwise you risk being at a significant disadvantage against peer competitors in conflicts. I would like to see the J-35 have two more missiles on it by the time it reaches mass production, you really don't want to be going out with less than six missiles on board these days.

[@davidlaw9686]

Do not worry, J35 would be fully equipped to take on any latest adversary. Except for the pilot the weaponry system is ASAR.

[@lukecarroll9823]

@@davidlaw9686 What does ASAR mean?

[@Marcellogo]

Fact that J-35 could take off from a STOBAR is not surprising at all as they would have a sufficient thrust power to take off without problems. Russians used Su-25UTG i.e. a modification of the Frogfoot as trainers on the Admiral Kutnetsov. For turboprop planes JATO rockets could be used.

[@RadicalFloat_95]

This video is actually genuinely underated and this is actually the actual real China that the actual American and British BBC propaganda mainstream media actually don't show you is actually really like and actually capable of actually doing

[@namiseniazei5493]

actually you are actually wrong

[@javasoy]

Acktoooully

[@HoLeeChit11]

Actually, no.

[@King_Cola]

too much cocaina

[@RadicalFloat_95]

@@namiseniazei5493 yes but actually no

[@mollyzyad778]

2024 would be the most successful year for China in the military sector 💯

[@WhitepeopleConnelly6199]

Year of the Dragon，after all。

[@kumbackquatsta]

*yet

[@Chen_Tangerine]

@@WhitepeopleConnelly6199 Year of Loong, Thanks

[@yun-z]

I saw the title and saw "F-35 Fighter Appears Unexpectedly on China's Liaoning Carrier" lmao and I was like "waaat"

[@JJ-qr5qz]

想多

[@catrojana3694]

❤ speed reading is dangerous, sometimes.😂😂😂

[@davidlaw9686]

China would not have called it J35 if they have not produced an advantage as contender over it's look-alike rival. Wasn't it only j31 then.

[@MD97531]

More like “F-35 fighter appears unexpectedly above China’s Liaoning carrier”

[@davidlaw9686]

@@MD97531 Think it the way you like, in fantasy land.

[@kylexu227]

chinese social media is saying that the coast guard already bought the paint for the liaoning

[@CarolYeisley]

用中文就好哈哈哈哈

[@kylexu227]

行.国内社交媒体开玩笑说海警已经为辽宁舰准备油漆了@@CarolYeisley

[@CunkunZhang]

时刻准备着的😂😂

[@nicolamastascusa8173]

That's really surprising. I wonder if there will be separate versions of the J-35 for the STOBAR and CATOBAR carriers or if they will be the same version. Since the J-35 already has a land-based version, the one that will be sold to Pakistan in future, it'll be interesting to see how many versions of the J-35 will appear, and in what order they appear.

[@ntal5859]

Usually they just take off with less fuel or munitions when no catapult. That's typical of Western tactics.

[@kast6446]

From PLA's habit, I guess STOBAR and CATOBAR carrier will share the same type J35. An important reason to support that is J35 is much smaller than J15, size of J35 should be close to F22. From video you may not sense that but in fact, J15 is huge! Even the length of J20 is a little bit shorter than J15. So I think there might be no need to have a difference between STOBAR and CATOBAR carriers. Even F-18 and Raffle can take off from a STOBAR.

[@davidlaw9686]

For China, if the J35 is not more superior than the F35, it will not be ready to emerge as an aircraft to fly proudly with the military.

[@carrievh8686]

@@kast6446 The F-22 is not a carrier based aircraft, though.

[@XkMeng]

The long-distance heavy-load take-off point in the middle of the Liaoning deck can take off any fighter jet except large aircraft. The F35 shipboard test does not require any modifications to the aircraft carrier.

[@Saffi____]

I figured it was simply meant to train pilots for take off and landing on actual carriers for pilots flying the aircraft.

[@Peizxcv]

Landing yes, but take off would be completely different

[@jonahhekmatyar]

​@@Peizxcvthey could probably take off without weapons and reduced fuel load.

[@JJ-qr5qz]

​@@jonahhekmatyar歼35是开门战机和空优战机不是炸弹卡车，重点隐身性不须要太多弹药，重点打击预警机和雷达，所以滿油滿弹起飞无问题，滿弹才6到8的导弹

[@hkfoo3333]

Just wondering why a J35 cannot take off from a ski jump like any other planes if it has enough power and not take on too much weight . It is only those planes not designed for catapult cannot be used in carriers with catapult system. But these can still take off from any carriers with or without catapult. The catapult is only to enable to those planes to take off with heavier weight not that they cannot take off without catapult.

[@xblade11230]

Because a catapult produces extreme acceleration over a short distance While a ski ramp requires a lot of room the plane needs to start at one end and then gradually accelerate The key factor here is stall speed a plane designed for catapult assisted takeoff the engine will stall without a catapult

[@phils4634]

Interesting indeed. Possible assessment of the practicalities of operating the J-35's of the earlier vessels, or providing pilots with experience operating from both carrier types? Since the PLAN has got the carrier assets, it makes sense for crews to have a level of carrier interoperability. As for the KJ-600, might JATO bottles do the trick? Extra (disposable) take off thrust might solve the problem?

[@Xinjiangbro]

KJ600原本就是用来当舰载机的预警机，个人认为按照我军的传统J35能上辽宁舰的话空警600没道理不配置上相同的能力。即一点突破到全面突破。当然也有可能影响空警600原有的性能，还有一种可能就是用同等性能且廉价的无人机集群来替代。但是无人机集群伴飞的话又要考虑飞行速度，作战半径，电子战能力以及舰载的合理有效性。对此我表示怀疑，虽然我真的很爱WZ8🌚

[@Zohairshanteer]

Very insightful analysis! Would you make a detailed video about the Korean KF-21 5th gen fighter and the information available about it till the moment?

[@nostradamus2642]

In theory, the KJ-600 can takeoff from the ski jump with minimal fuel and then get buddy refuelling by 2 x J-15 tankers.

[@郜-x7j]

训练目的的航空母舰

[@xTheUnderscorex]

Even only being able to launch the KJ-600 from the long take off position only would justify carrying them on CV-16/17. Even if that doesn't work, it's also potentially worthwhile for them to figure out a RATO system. It wouldn't be sensible to pursue that kind of option for the fighter wing, but it might just make sense to employ it for 1-2 AWACS planes.

[@hlim431]

The photo of J35 on the rear of aircraft carrier says 016 NOT 018 so it is the Laioning NOT Fujian

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

A comparison with the 2 operational Chinese carriers, 2 British carriers and the 2 Indian carriers would be very interesting.

[@christianvitroler5289]

Britain has no operational aircraft carriers , only multi-billion scrap metal collections

[@罗毅-v2t]

在三年后，中国至少将增加两艘

[@ballerblocks]

Unexpectedly for you maybe, but for them, it's their programme

[@XkMeng]

The long-distance heavy-load take-off point in the middle of the Liaoning deck can take off any fighter jet except large aircraft. The F35 shipboard test does not require any modifications to the aircraft carrier.

[@TheDude50447]

I guess thats a step forward considering that until recently they didnt have any aircraft that could launch from their carriers with a full weapons load.

[@Papi1960R]

The US Navy used to assist heavily loaded A-3 Sky Warriors with JATO bottles in the 1960s. With the improvements in small solid fuel rocket boosters over the decades, I'm sure China could engineer a system to lift their AEW aircraft and fully loaded J-15s off the STOBAR carriers.

[@Vmotion.]

Well done china , congratulations from Pakistan , lomg live China Pakistan friendship

[@Edgar-l-l]

谢谢巴铁，我们永远都是好朋友😊

[@namiseniazei5493]

Im confused, are the FC31 and J35 different planes?

[@bennygpc1826]

FC31=J31 and J35 for Navyairforce

[@namiseniazei5493]

@@bennygpc1826 so china has tested 3 5th gen aircraft, on of which is only for export if im getting it right

[@lovepapa9559]

FC31 is a little smaller and for export only, J35 is a little bigger for China carrier. 😊

[@watb8689]

FC-31 is smaller in size with less thrust. J-35 is a more powerful and bigger plane. it can carry more fuel for more range too and higher weapons payload

[@redhongkong]

from what i know FC31=prototype of J35/J31, the should be same size, J35 is for navalforce carrier variant, J31 is cost reduction version for export. J20 is for airforce land based with front mini canard wing design(J20 has 2 seats variant for controlling unmanned AI wingman)

[@andrewsuryali8540]

If the J-35 MTOW is capped at around 54,000 lbs, then the existing WS-21 engines producing 20,000-21,000 lbf per engine would be more than enough to allow it to take-off from Liaoning. That's already more power than either the Rafale or MiG-29K has, and both Rafale and the MiG can operate from the much smaller Vikramaditya. If the WS-19 engine is made available and can indeed produce 22,000-24,000 lbf each, then the plane would be able to achieve MTOW around 66,000 lbs. This is the same as the F/A-18E, which is also able to operate from Vikramaditya. For KJ-600, the likelihood for STOBAR operation is low. There already was a design for an AWACS aircraft able to take-off from a STOBAR carrier: The never-built 88,000 lbs MTOW Yak-44E. However, this aircraft was designed with two D-27 propfan engines each able to provide 14,500 shp to its propfans, resulting in 26,800 lbf takeoff thrust. In other words, the Soviets tried to solve this problem by producing an aircraft able to generate the same takeoff thrust as a Su-33 on afterburners. Right now China doesn't have access to a propfan or turboprop with this kind of output. Maybe if the WJ-10 turboprop generating 5,000+ kW (~6,170 shp) materializes it could give enough power for KJ-600 to do STOBAR operations? The current WJ-6Cs can't.

[@Glory-to-God.]

003 is facing a lot of setbacks including the electric magnetic catapult doesnt meet requirements. 😢

[@yours_sincerely48]

Fake News....The EM launcher already tested on ground many times before assembled on the deck of 003.

[@davenobody407]

Nothing to see - just a giant fishing boat with radio controlled drones onboard. 😂

[@kanestalin7246]

Just a large fishing vessel only for catching fish and nothing else

[@davenobody407]

@@kanestalin7246 and for the tourists taking pictures.

[@danielch6662]

How difficult would it be to retrofit a very limited EMALS catapult on a STOBAR carrier? Perhaps not for the entire airwing, but for the occasional tankers or KJ600s.

[@SpectreBGM]

It would be expensive and time consuming , a lot of compartments would need rebuilding , it would also need a major upgrade to its power generation capability . Not worth taking out of service a working carrier for 3-4 years for not much capability aded tbh . Also the time and cost required would probably be the same as building a new one . Just look at Indias very expensive adventures with carriers .

[@yours_sincerely48]

Attached Rockets on KJ600 8s cheaper than EM launcher.

[@dynastywarriorlord07]

I still think that these first 2 carriers are gonna be used exclusively for training purposes. The type 003 Fujian may be the first real carrier that's gonna be used in actual carrier ops

[@godalmighty5970]

All meaning both?

[@afnanali752]

China is great Aircraft

[@kempmt1]

I had an idea that the J-35 was going to be on the first two Chinese jump carriers

[@stephencarson2951]

Do the chinese navy use fighter squadron numbers ?

[@SgtCandy]

The KJ-600 could use a rocket-assisted takeoff from the STOBAR carriers, though issues with deck/airframe safety/damage would need to be addressed, as would expected sortie rates with such logistics storing the rockets. That all said it is more viable though than adding a catapult.

[@JamesHGroffSr]

That is like a toy compaired to what they build in ROADS snd TRAIN CONSTRUCTION and manufactueing defense products very high tech. country.Building a fighter jet alone and disigning and developing a jet engine with all the alloys and trial and errer tries is an amazing accomplishment in it self.When you go into the aircraft industry you are going into an industry that is second to none except the medical industry.

[@موسى_7]

Aircraft is way ahead of medicine, because even Iran can make medical technology, but aircraft is limited to USA, UK, France, Russia, and nowadays China is in the list. Oh yeah, there is also India.

[@yours_sincerely48]

China already built a space station alone ..It's up o our heads now.

[@abyssmanur3965]

5:29 who pasted a cat on the back of the sign 😂

[@mw0062]

To hide some information i guess.

[@abyssmanur3965]

@@mw0062 Of course, Thx

[@ericswain70]

Shows what you can do without all the bureaucracy.

[@erdiakarsu4945]

Hey man. There are too many chinese combat ship classes, can you make a tierlist like video about all of those. So that I can watch a vid about that hehe xd

[@yttean98]

I can only see 2 possibilties of J-35 on Lioning 1. Testing the viability of takeoff and landing viabliity of the aircraft longterm safety on the carrier. 2. Following 1 above if successsful they will be a permanent fixture on this type of carrier. end of story.

[@hansudowolfrahm4856]

Much quicker than expecte for many

[@MehrshadKh-qj9vu]

زنده باد چین ❤️❤️❤️

[@sford2044]

Mostly means target.

[@xinyiquan666]

you mean US and india, both target

[@nealtran6844]

Laoning got a supermarket on board.

[@tylerdurden4006]

Meanwhile the british navy has 2 fail3d "super" carriers built with 2 control towers so it never breaks down bcoz everything is doubled up. 😂

[@ioanbota9397]

Realy I like this video its so so interestyng

[@bigearl3867]

Blurry photo. Would be stupid to land any aircraft on a carrier deck while it's in port, and under repair. It may be deployed sometime in the future, but not at this time.

[@redhongkong]

if its still sitting in port, maybe they r just using it to measure all the parking location and testing elevator

[@mikeniu5636]

true @@redhongkong

[@honfmeilingfleet957]

looks like F-35 meet his Rival

[@Joshua-dt5vi]

F-35s rival is the F-22

[@jaylenflanagan1295]

Not really

[@奥奥利给-w6o]

@@Joshua-dt5vi Actually submarines😂

[@paddy3030]

LOL the J35s were exposed to be "mock-ups" -a page out of Russia's playbook.

[@k.k.c8670]

Why you keep calling it the 'j35'?

[@qwaskkn]

J31 is an air force type, FC31 is the export code for J31, and J35 is a naval carrier based type.

[@subasthapa8323]

Bcoz it's j35

[@k.k.c8670]

I dont think the name is official yet@@subasthapa8323

[@antwango]

where the h20 me need now!!!!!! this thing was predicted 2 yrs ago!!!! it looks awesome if the concepts are correct!! transforming tail section!?? also jh26!??? also j20 2 seater gone abit quiet....

[@Originalதமிழன்-yz7nv]

தயவு செஞ்சு சீனா பவரை பற்றி பொடதிர்கள். இந்தியன் நித்திரை கொள்ளமாட்டேன் 😂😂🎉

[@eleventy-seven]

Probably with few arms and fuel to allow this.

[@姜凌-t5m]

fake news，it's model plane

[@steveschiesser7160]

great show

[@Ahmad15070]

Means pakistan will soon have this beast😍😜

[@charliepyle1626]

They could use it to help USA in fighting Houthis in the red sea.

[@azbgames6827]

Yeah china is the biggest user of the suez canal and they are freeloading of the yanks for shipping protection.

[@mikeniu5636]

because there is no need. Houthis dont attact China ships. SO recently NATO commercial ships are trying to hang china or russia flags to escape missile attacks. News available on google : )@@azbgames6827

[@planker]

This is a joke, right?

[@subasthapa8323]

Definitely you are

[@aizen4398]

Hellooo

[@ferdinandsanguyo7449]

Goodluck china..😅 combat ready???

[@leohedrick1624]

They even copied the name 😂😂😂😂 F 35 J 35 😂😂

[@imnewlight]

then the f35 copied sweden’s saab j35 draken

[@ronnonyabizness5240]

All of their carriers? 😂 they only have one....

[@foxtraner]

Where about the stone have you been living under? 🎉

[@tedchandran]

Jai Hinduja. Our Indian carriers are equipped with Mig-35, Harrier jump jets and most importantly, latest Tejas model.

[@Rajesh_KC_911]

*Nobody asked you what you have and what you have equipped lol.*

[@tren133]

@@Rajesh_KC_911 No need to be so rude. Also the information he provided isn't exactly earth shattering. The Harrier is literally a defunct jet. The Mig-29K (not the 35) was always the little brother to the Su-27, which China is already using on its carriers. The Tejas is a relatively rudimentary 4th gen medium fighter that somehow India has only managed to build like 35 IN TOTAL despite being deemed operational almost 10 years ago, and is also only capable of carrier usage on a trial basis. Which leaves India with either buying France's Rafale (still 4th gen) for their carrier, which might take another 5 years to achieve, or waiting for their own HAL TEDBF fighter, which given how long the Tejas is taking, will be ready in 10 years to whoknowshowlong. Far as I can tell, Indian navy has a couple dozen of the aging Mig-29Ks for their carriers and a HUGE question mark as to what actual proper carrier fighter they can come up with to serve on their carriers.

[@xinyiquan666]

indian carrirere? lol that is fishing boat catch fire every another month

[@subasthapa8323]

Do we really care 🤔

[@tonysu8860]

Probably doesn't mean anything operationally. Laws of physics can't be overcome so if anyone thought that the J-15 was limited in armament and range launching from a ski jump carrier, that applies many times over for the J-35. Like everything else about the PLA/PLAAF/PLAN, these types of events are worth watching and noting but aren't of much significance.

[@themaus1799]

First

[@rmcgraw7943]

I’d be afraid to go out of dock on that casino boat. I dont much enjoy gambling, especially with my life. Has any chinese military ship ever going into blue water, or more than 1000 miles from dock? It’s always overtly obvious of an inexperienced country when you put a ramp to help the planes take off, not realizing that such a ramp magnifies the stress and subsequent wear on the planes taking off…aka. those planes dont last as long if you jump them into the air, as it causes stress fractures in the metal, especially the landing gear.

[@mw0062]

1000 miles? 😂 how far the Guam is from China? Last year PLAN was 400 km away from Guam.

[@mtsky-tc6uw]

china,russia both consider anything that floats,flys,rolls nothing more than targets and why both have hundreds of thousands of high end missiles that will take out everything in the first hours of a real conflict --whole carrier group will face hundreds of missile and then a tact nuke--war is dumb,very stupid but usa wants war

[@DesignatedVictim]

You must be trolling to get every point of yours wrong. PLAN has been conducting anti-piracy missions in Gulf of Aden with multiple fleets each year since 2009. Catapult launch gives the aircraft more acceration, thus more stress, than taking off with aircraft's own power. Do you ever wonder why a plane's landing gear has to be strengthened to be launched on a CATOBAR carrier?

[@Peizxcv]

This is bad news. It means there is little confidence in 003 and there haven’t been plan to ramp up production of 003 / 004 so 001 and 002 will have to stay on the frontline longer. 001 and 002 have always been seen as training carriers to get PLAN ready to operate 003 / 004. Now that training carriers have to get ready for combat, it means there won’t be a lot more 003 / 004 in the pipeline. Like you wouldn’t be upgrading the gun on M60 if you know you are gonna buy 8000 M1 Abrams 001 and 002 are not combat effective in modern naval warfare so unless plan change, PLAN’s capability forecasts are overestimated

[@samtat0315]

Yo dude, 003 Aircraft Carrier will coming out for Navys this year. Also they are been made 004 - 005 Aircraft Carriers by ready use at 2030

[@lewisray2697]

Your thoughts are weird.😮

[@Peizxcv]

As explained, if PLAN plans to have a lot more 003 / 004, there is no reason to test J-35 on 001 / 002 because how many jets would you possibly need for 2 medium sized carrier to justify the cost of developing a special variant? 10 jets, 12 jets, 24 jets? 001 and 002 already have J-16, it doesn’t make sense to spend money and time developing a variant of J-35 for STOBAR when you are busy working on the main CATOBAR version

[@lovepapa9559]

I thinks for 2024 has 3 carriers with J35 better than has only 1 carrier with J35. 😊

[@samtat0315]

@@lovepapa9559 It will also have J-20 too.

[@張宜凱-j8s]

Long lives of People's Republic of CHINA 😅🎉❤

[@Asardani21]

+9999 social credit

[@boli1435]

​@@Asardani21SB

[@subasthapa8323]

​@@Asardani21 + 25 cents

[@HungNguyen-bd9du]

How long?

[@張宜凱-j8s]

@@HungNguyen-bd9du 我愛祖國大陸和平完全統一，大小金門，連江媽祖，億萬年永不分離。

[@nawazcheema9188]

Sooon Pakistan have this ❤️🇵🇰

[@jamesc3622]

It may have installed an electronic catapult on one side of the flat deck, which can eject a portion of the J-35, and more importantly, the carrier based early warning aircraft

[@DesignatedVictim]

The electromagnetic catapult system is not just the catapult itself. It is consisted of a high output generator, a energy storage unit and an energy management system. The required modification would cost so much money and time that they could just build a new ship. The Liaoning is intended for training and experiment purposes rather than actual combat, so don't be surprised to see any goofy stuff been done to the ship.

[@JJ-qr5qz]

改装不如直接做一个，反正不缺这钱技术，时间做一个航母快过改一个航母，性能又不增加太多，浪费时间金钱

[@boBo-gn9rt]

j35是双发动机，完全能够滑越起飞