J-20: Comparing China's secretive fighter jet to the F-22 & F-35

[@michaelmcdonell2714]

I worked in the industry for 40 years and you can take a blueprint only so far. Skill sets needed to build the total package are critical for success. Can’t steal that.

[@sebastienholmes548]

Which is why this thing sucks.

[@ilcarlino752]

​@@sebastienholmes548you do not know that

[@alexg2k2]

Still delusionally arrogant. Times have changed drastically. China is leaps and bounds ahead in R&D and manufacturing, old timer.

[@ilcarlino752]

@@alexg2k2 for real

[@michaelmcdonell2714]

We will see, right now China has a population of only 800 million and that is based on their own figures in 1990. Your the one who is delusional ,but with a CCP Government I can sympathize with your confusion, young chick.

[@adamc2378]

All 3 jets have different roles within the doctrine of their respective militaries. This is like comparing apples to oranges to bananas because they are all fruits.

[@addygreen8919]

I prefer apples.

[@kingdomofprussia9749]

I prefer all

[@farrukhahmad555]

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[@djuanstanziola9882]

1 day I got into an Orange fight with other kids, I prefer bananas 😂

[@farrukhahmad555]

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[@joosiekawk]

correction: there are more J-20's in service than the F-22 today...there are over 200+ J-20's and more are being built. While the US has 170ish F-22? and that's it.

[@aaron6493]

200 🤣🤣🤣🤣 are they flying on their own. You need specialized pilots to do that.

[@joosiekawk]

@@aaron6493 there are more credible pilots than there are j-20s. As the j-20s are now undergoing mass-producing using the finalized ws-15 engine, expect to see at least half a thousand J-20s in the skies by 2035

[@aaron6493]

@@joosiekawk mass producing a plane that has engine issues? What "wise".

[@aaron6493]

@@joosiekawk the J20 is a great fighter but now the challenge starts with the next phase which is monitoring/improving/upgrades/tests etc. Even with new engines this is part of execution & improvement of all human-made technology on this planet. Something that the US has been doing for 20+ years with the Raptor F22 fleet. So China is 20 years behind in this phase in comparison with the USA. Again remember that the upgraded Raptors are 5+ th gen and J20 is still an early 5th gen in development. With development I do not mean production, but test/monitoring/improvements design/upgrades/tests etc.

[@biochemwang2421]

@@aaron6493 LOL, where did you get the news that Raptors are being upgraded?

[@muzikizfun]

The only thing that matters is what happens in combat. While reputation might deter or make an enemy hesitate, only combat can settle the issue.

[@kopite8971]

Exactly the battle of Britain, proof....

[@jimmygeeraets9039]

@@kopite8971 the spitfire was a master piece. I dont think its the same.

[@kopite8971]

@@jimmygeeraets9039 in terms of more powerful aircraft and completely out numbered. I'd say so in terms of power doesn't always win. If you get my point

[@kopite8971]

@@jimmygeeraets9039 the spitfire was easier to manoeuvre and more agile but the German planes were probably the most powerful from that era, I'd just say we had better pilots and tactics.

[@jimmygeeraets9039]

@@kopite8971You've got that right. the battle of britain was also won on several factors. good British secret service. aircraft crashing, the pilots who survived could be picked up from the English and returned to work. and a very good plane and more experienced pilots over longer periods of time. the Germans had a very poor intelligent network, they received a lot of misinformation and pilots lost them when they crashed in England and the surrounding area. . I also think that the BF 109 Messersmith was a less aircraft than the Spitfire more competitive with the Hawker Huracine. and the choice to move from military targets to civilian targets is what ultimately cost the Germans too much manpower.

[@CheeLiekHo]

The J20 has front canards but the F20 and F35 do not use canards. It is a totally different design in aerodynamics. But strange that the commentator keeps saying there are similarities and China must have stolen data. In engineering there is a concept of convergence of design. That is given a set of physical and chemical principles to solve an engineering design problem the solution looks similar. For example bows and arrows. In prehistoric times with little or no communications, isolated countries or communities have bows and arrows. Although different in size, lengths and materials all bows and arrows look similar.

[@johnghilduta3016]

I like the concept “convergence of design “ and I knows for long time is absolutely true.

[@pinkppagi8228]

Internal bay engineering is what they copy and pasted

[@pinkppagi8228]

They are forced to used canadas and larger wing due to weak engine output

[@m.a3914]

Similarities from inside and not necessarily outside

[@ronnieraptor]

When you copy very technical designs, you just say, its a 'Convergence of Design' just like bows and arrows then all the morons will clap their hands... Then you got peace of mind...

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

"In the end any fight could come down to the individual skill of pilots on both sides" Good job that the Chinese have ex-RAF pilots teaching them then, eh? :-/

[@into_the_void]

And legally too....

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

@@into_the_void Hope that gets changed ASAP.

[@CtrlOptDel]

@@into_the_void While them working there may be legal, there are certain three-character agencies that won’t hesitate to resort to… less legal means to stop them working there.

[@db-dl3nu]

@@CtrlOptDelmeaning?

[@CtrlOptDel]

@@db-dl3nu Take a guess… also colloquially referred to as a “wild stab in the dark”… 🤫

[@Vhvjdow0ajsbcdhcuei3o22-om4sm]

The J-20 actually has quite a few variants, not only does it have 2 and single seat variants, but it also has 3 different types of engines, when it was first made it used imported Russian engines (cant remember which one) and then transitioned to an upgraded WS-10 used on the J-10C and J-15 and now it uses the WS-15 engine.

[@DEO5182]

Its copy ru engines... ru engines is copy from FRA and US...very old engines

[@pisablavatsky-cb3dd]

Ok joker😂😂😂​@@DEO5182

[@中国-e8c]

​тебя скопировали с бабуина😂😂😂

[@DEO5182]

@@中国-e8c я рад что ты показал какой ты дурак! Молодец. Но самое смешное что про авиацию ты нечего не знаешь

[@齐王-x9g]

​@@DEO5182Sorry, the J20 in China uses the domestically developed and produced WS10 engine, and the latest Ws15 engine is also equipped in the latest batch of aircraft.

[@douginorlando6260]

China must be working out strategies on how best to use combined mixes of J20, non stealth fighters, and old generation fighters converted into drones. And now add loyal drone wingman to the mix. Now add Various Missile load outs including future missiles under development. The last key variable is sensor networks on the ground, in the air and in orbit and ECM aircraft

[@dfmrcv862]

They might... But fact is, they're playing catch up... And I'd prefer we keep it that way.

[@aaron6493]

@@dfmrcv862 do you know the new laser tech of the US? There is no catch up. Nothing in the sky will survive.

[@dfmrcv862]

@@aaron6493 shhh!!! Don't tell Congress that! They'll get complacent and may demand cuts to defense!

[@aaron6493]

@@dfmrcv862 you should know that laser tech is by far cheaper than those missiles, so I am pretty sure congress would be eager to get rid of missiles tech.

[@timfarley274]

Their best strategy is to eject.

[@thejeffinvade]

China currently has over 120 J20 in service, not just 74. They have equipped over 5 air combat wings with J20, 24 per wing, that makes it at least 120, some say around 150 were already delivered so far.

[@aztronomy7457]

KZbin is illegal in China

[@thejeffinvade]

@@aztronomy7457 I am a Canadian.

[@johnsun3299]

It's estimated more than 200 recently

[@duyataksis5210]

@@johnsun3299 Yes, at least 208 to be precise.

[@goodyiwen]

看珠海航展，J20机尾的量产编号，目前超过200台是妥妥的

[@ronaldwang9838]

J-20's maximum speed is 2.55 Mach when equipped with WS-10C engines(China's state media once reported that J-20's pilot said J-20 flied 52 kilometers per minute. That is 2.55 Mach), J-20's maximum speed is 2.8 Mach when equipped with WS-15 engines. The total number of J-20 in service is more than 200 right now. Media revealed that production capacity of J-20 production lines is 120 per year.

[@李大人-m7p]

2.0

[@Truth-will-prevail786]

😂😂😂😂 What they showed in Afghanistan That's we all seee😂😂😂😂

[@DaniHaldar-qk5zg]

Chinese slave spotted...

[@m.a3914]

It is a mach 2 jet and the production rate is in the tens not hundreds.

[@孙笑川-g1y]

exggrated, i think it can't be that much

[@Spikyzzzz]

Still better than Russia

[@justice32legends]

Way better actually. But canards, really?

[@GLORY-TO-ENTROPY]

@@justice32legends why? It looks cool

[@milanradovanovic3693]

Better by what measure? The fact that you amateurs watched for years how US propaganda showed you how 5th gen plane looks like? Are you people aware that none of these planes, 5th gen, can enter any kind of fight with su35 and exit alive. Su 35 has rockets almost 400 kms range, and about dog fight dont wanna discuss. Some un important measure like radar crosssection has been lifted like a diety... And thats radio electronics engeneer talking that is me

[@penguinxed]

anything is better than Russia

[@milanradovanovic3693]

@@penguinxed Yes for those of you educated by CNN and Hollywood i agree. Now that you have nuclear scientist into Biden's stuff which are not just trans but also have sex with animals you Will definetly fight your way into prosperity

[@beest_]

Both can fly, beyond that it's like comparing apples with oranges.

[@frank-ko6de]

J-20 looks like a fake orange. Hahahaha.

[@xiaoxiao-wk2mz]

​​@@frank-ko6de因为太科幻的东西出现在现实会让你们觉得不可思议

[@Videodirektor1]

china are copycats

[@octomagnus7029]

Still better than Russia's SU-57

[@imamahmed208]

​@@frank-ko6deunlike f35,it doesn't crash without combat 😂

[@mslc22]

It is funny to think that some westerners include some asian living in the west is still dont believe j20 exists 😅.

[@BarleyWoodberry]

That’s the dumbest comment posted. WTF are you talking about? Everyone knows it exists everyone just laughs at china for having to steal jet designs from the US. China cant even use their domestic engines because of how terrible they are. Absolutely pathetic

[@Deetroiter]

Lol looks like it was made in the same factory where Tupperware is made

[@bussolini6307]

there is way more than 74 units of J-20 in service, probably around 150-200.

[@thunderwrld]

Nope there's around 80 lol

[@GoldenKhanate06]

@@thunderwrld Lol because you counted them youself right?

[@yuhuagao4858]

最少300。

[@MrSuperunix]

2024年有200架😂

[@classychampion]

China can produce 10000 pieces if they need

[@allgood6760]

Cool vid👍✈️

[@scottfoster5817]

Just an FYI - there are at least 150 J-20s in service at this time with some experts in Chinese military aviation believing there might be more than 200 now flying. I'm not sure where the 74 in-service number came from but that's not accurate.

[@神成子]

240

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

@@神成子 vs 1000 F-35

[@jefflai6077]

​@@SelfProclaimedEmperorthe 1000 F35s are not in one place, how many you can gather at one time.😂😂😂

[@lukecarroll4052]

@@jefflai6077 I mean china is pretty big too but sure this is a pointless argument, these countries should never go to war or they and the rest of the world will fall apart.

[@francishubertovasquez956]

The J-20 Stealth Fighter Jet of China is a clear long range fighter Jet of China due to its large frame and larger fuel tank with one of the World's long range missiles if not the longest range missiles the PL-15 much longer range than Europe's Meteor missiles though the Meteor is more advanced. The radars and sensors of J-20 is classified, a secret they maintained until it is used in combat. Will the China- India conflict uncover the capability of J-20 Stealth fighter jet if it's used in that battle arena.

[@biochemwang2421]

Well, an Indian media claimed that Su30-MKI can easily detect J-20s over the border with its radar. What a joke.

[@MrDocbowman]

J-20 is junk after Russia tech was used in them. Guidance system is vulnerable.

[@kisuke47]

@@biochemwang2421 That is because the J-20's had their radar reflectors on. They would only take them off during combat, so of course they could be easily detected.

[@Withnail1969]

It is designed to fight America and will be used in that role if anywhere.

[@zhangmengmin5645]

@@biochemwang2421 Apparently, Indians don’t know about Longbo lens yet

[@CatDaddySteve]

SPEED: The 60 year old F104 is faster than ALL modern fighters, you do NOT need speed as much as long range multi target radar , stealth, multiple fighter- command & control linking, and maneuverability, oh and redundant - reliability.

[@into_the_void]

The f104 did mach 2.1 at the most Even the f15 can do mach 2.5 There are many operational jets that can fly faster than the f104

[@michaelanderson9140]

MiG 31 anyone?

[@XkriskrossX]

YF-12 says hi..

[@thejeffinvade]

@@XkriskrossX DF17 says hi

[@roguebanana87]

Speed=friction=heat. A hot airplane is not a stealthy airplane

[@niu64]

"It is not the martial art that matter, but the master" -Bruce Lee

[@uktenatsila9168]

Is the max range of the J20 confirmed? Thank you for the great videos.

[@Mishn0]

We're talking the CCP here. You just have to take their word for it!

[@thejeffinvade]

China currently has over 120 J20 in service, not just 74. They have equipped over 5 air combat wings with J20, 24 per wing, that makes it at least 120, some say around 150 were already delivered so far.

[@thejeffinvade]

@D David 波音2018年最强的时候,一年交付了806架飞机,平均每月70架 中国商飞,唯一一款量产的"大飞机"ARJ21(其实只是个支线客机),2008年首飞,快15年了,17年开始量产,量产也6年了,一共交付了70架,产量差不多每月1架,而且只是个支线客机,比波音交付的要小得多 航空业产能差了两个数量级，还是不要号称1000架的比较好

[@thejeffinvade]

@D David 1，固定翼舰载机：美国有850+架F18，50多架F35B/C;中国50架歼15，数量不到美国1/10，而且歼15没有相控阵雷达，战力还没有美国海军的1/10 2，战略轰炸机，美国70架B52，60架B1b，20架B2，都能从美国本土起飞打击中国;中国0 3，攻击型核潜艇，美国71艘；中国10艘。数量上差不多是1/7，战斗力不到1/7。 4，大运：美国220架C17，50架C5；中国40架运20+20多架伊尔76，单个载重量还比C17小20%，只有C5的1/3。 5，隐身战机，美国182架F22+500多架F35；中国150架歼20。歼20首飞10年，还在等发动机，如今只装备了四个团 中国歼20,首飞十年一共生产了150架。F35，洛马去年一年生产了142架，今年8月交付了第800架.

[@thejeffinvade]

@D David 不是成本问题 就没有成熟可靠的供应链 也没有技术 波音造787为了解决供应链产能问题 还折腾了好几年才搞定

[@theratrace5826]

Key phrase: on the ground. Dollars to donuts this plane vaporware.

[@crypty9365]

As a Chinese person, I must say the J20 is getting close to F-22, but F-22 was built over 20 years ago, there must be new advanced fighter jets already developed by the US military, so there is no need to argue at air superiority at this time.

[@akk9196]

They had trouble shooting down your balloons, y'all are safe. If goat herders in Hiluxes can best them, you'll have no problem reclaiming Taiwan without having to shoot a single bullet.

[@crypty9365]

@@akk9196 lol thats funny

[@thyhandsonuslyngdoh6562]

​@@akk9196Can you compare the Russian invasion of Ukraine to the United States operation in Afghanistan. No you definitely cannot. America's was there to help the Afghan government and usually carried out small operations or air operations against Taliban targets. The Taliban got their ass kicked and had to hightail it to Pakistan (who provide shelter, weapons).

[@darkevola7975]

@@akk9196Lmao, a china simp arguing with an actual chinese. You are so desperate to prove China can even match US that you argue with a chinese guy. And goat herders didnt win, the americans simply left. And the chinese have been beaten by filipinos, indians, vietnamese in just the past 30 years bro. Taiwan will only need a tenth of its air force to drown the entire chinese air force.

[@rmstark1966]

Actually they keep updating the F22. Because of lack of stealth in the J20 is very comparable. With the J20 and F35 hardly have a payload unless they carry under wings and lose all stealth. F22 carries more in the belly. The range of the radar of J20 and F22 are close, F22 has 200km, J20 has 170km. At their speeds that is mute point. I have always said even with crappy range of flight, I would still take a Raptor over the others

[@JoshRichmanDesign]

Who did the music? the score?

[@codelessunlimited7701]

Both aircraft was never tested in real life scenario. China wins this one because of its long range capabilities. The Chinese aircraft seems to get a lot from the Russian technology and engineering. But it is good to see a new aircraft and does not need an entire GDP of the country to fund the program.

[@eugenenunn4900]

The Chinese win nothing. Inferior stealth and air-to-air missiles. They also lack number and pilot training.

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

Uh, no. Long range missiles mean nothing if you cant see your enemy. The J-20 is like 20 feet longer than the F-22...F-22 will see J-20 long before J-20 can see the F-22.

[@darkevola7975]

except that China can only develop such technologies by copying other projects as there's not a single shred of innovation in the Chinese gene 😂😂. must be the effect of eating all those urine soaked eggs after all.

[@michaelwan4268]

You can not only rely on Airplane to detect stealth fighter. @@SelfProclaimedEmperor

[@jb76489]

Wow you really don’t understand what you’re talking about lmao

[@rodyep3136]

Jets are just delivery platforms, who has the best air-to-air missile.

[@lynnabel258]

Good point

[@timmcpherson9632]

When you order an F-22 Raptor from your wish list...🙂 But get the J-20 instead, without the possibility of a refund. 🙆🏼‍♂️

[@Spiretail]

Mom, can we have F-22? No. There is F-22 at home. F22 at home =

[@thejeffinvade]

J 20 has F35 style EOTS which will make a big difference in helping them spot F22 first. Assuming both sides will not open their radar which will give away their position, and awacs on both sides can't spot incoming flighters until it's too late

[@srijanme]

Are you seriously bragging about 80s tech? Lol

[@timmcpherson9632]

@@srijanme It takes years to build a fighter jet, from the drawing board to conception, and other things in between. Well....guess I shouldn't expect you to understand that!

[@songyotmaboon7941]

The overpriced extrem sensible against dust and not produced f22 , that pilots calls the hangar queen because only 14 percent are combat ready , the rest in repair ?

[@digitalkamran1]

Does anyone know the trackname in this video???

[@poseiidon2029]

Yes it came up on my iPhone, it’s called Antidote X by Van Sandano

[@nbgoodiscore1303]

Same exact speed? "Nah, It must have been the wind"

[@soniq080808]

I wouldn't trust chinese building a sand castle let alone a jet fighter ! 😂

[@kinni143]

我还不相信美国登月呢，要不你让美国再登一次？？

[@ZNation-v4j]

And yet you are still commenting from Chinese made smartphones. Typical USA behavior

[@soniq080808]

@ZNation-v4j it's made in Taiwan ! It's not a crappy chinese made phone 😂

[@duyataksis5210]

There are 187 F-22s, not 123. There are also 208 J-20s, not 74. Given your poor sourcing overall, one is deeply skeptical of your claim that the J-20's stealth is inferior to any American plane.

[@dominikvonlavante6113]

It is a certainty that J-20's radar cross section is somewhat better than an F18/F15, but orders if magnitude worse than an F22/F35. This can be seen in the general geometry of the airplane, surface features and its turbine intakes.

[@duyataksis5210]

@@matthewochoa6973 No, I think China can easily match the US in stealth overall. You need to recalibrate your ideas of what China is capable of.

[@duyataksis5210]

@@dominikvonlavante6113 Wrong. The J-20 is a VLO air superiority fighter whose RCS easily matches the F-22/F-35.

[@elektrotehnik94]

@@duyataksis5210 Your anti-America, pro-China & pro-Russia "empty convictions" can be even found through a simple Google search. That's impressive & very sad. A lof of bark, very little source data to back it up - as you do. It's just sad.

[@garyeuscher4499]

No

[@JamieRawles]

Chinas answer to the F22 Raptor tells you everything you need to know about them. They're contending with a plane that's some 20 years older. Always playing catch up.

[@ex0duzz]

Well duh. The point is china 70 years ago was poorer and more backwards than Africa. Now they have their own 5th gen planes, biggest economy by PPP, own aircraft carrier, own gps, own space station, landed on moon and mars, etc etc. China already leads USA in industries and technologies, like 5g, green tech, AI, high speed rail, quantum tech, etc.

[@jasonlee148]

Your white house is scared of a country that always play catch up?

[@nix123ism]

So what? The funny thing about the US war machine is , they go on and on about how they spend trillions of $ , have the most tech advanced military , the best trained and equiped soldiers when the reality is only in the results it delivers and looking at how many conflicts they have actually won since WW2 , 1 , Iraq, the rest have been withdrawals, stalemates or losses, their "advanced" military doesn't seem to produce any results that you would expect a military of that standing to produce, let alone protect the US from any attack, hell, the last time the US was attacked, 9/11 , 3 men entered the US legally, got trained up by US avaiation schools and flew 2 planes into the twin towers, how effective was the US military at protecting them from that attack?

[@ThadJarvis7952]

Yup and they still can't beat the F22

[@ex0duzz]

@@ThadJarvis7952 wrong. They would destroy f22. That's why f22 is being retired and only f35 will be used. If they are so good and will Destroy j20, why retire them? J20 will have loyal wingman drones with dual seater versions, with missiles that outrange anything usa has. F22 cannot get inside china's anti access area denial range, any us forces which do will be destroyed like a joke, and any fight between china and usa will be in Taiwan or south china seas. It will never be 1on1 or "fair" fight, china holds all the cards fighting in it's backyard under it's rules. Usa will never have the balls to declare war on china again. Even during Vietnam war they didn't go into north Vietnam because china warned them not to even though they obliterated viet's in every fight and could have. This time they listened. After they underestimated china and learned their lesson the hard way in Korean war 70 years ago. They still remember that lesson today. No, usa will never attack or provoke china into direct war vs usa again. Usa cannot afford it. Both china and usa will go from 1st and 2nd to worse than Africa. Africa will be a paradise compared to usa after any war vs china. Usa is not THAT dumb to sacrifice themselves for what, Taiwan? Lol. They are using Taiwan for their benefit, not for their destruction.

[@Masteranddisaster13]

With these technicalities, its down to the pilot to make the difference.

[@Lightning206]

Clearly the f-22 isn't secret enough if the j-20 has similar air frame parts

[@brandongriffin79]

Stolen technology bum

[@PatrickF7]

similar???

[@srs6461]

It does not look similar at all.

[@khemrajsahai5678]

The Chinese stole all the tech through their cyber security team hacking western systems for 2 decades. J20 is just a nice show piece with nothing in it to fight and win.

[@nahlene1973]

Let's just hope they will remain their competition on the internet during their entire service lives.

[@ashravicmehmet6055]

Some people said that J20 is developed to disable or attack any control tower planes. Especially the one that controls advanced jets like F22 and F35. Pretty smart.

[@sjqncn]

Well we use J－16D to do something like this...though it can't control anything

[@DKLGalactus5]

It may turn out to be a Tofu plane. China never tells the truth, does it.

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

F-22 has powerful radar, it doesn't need any aircraft to see or control for it.

[@wedmunds]

​@@SelfProclaimedEmperoractivate your radar and you deactivate your stealth

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

@@wedmunds maybe Chinese aircraft have that problem, but the F-22 and F-35 have a special radar that is "low probability of intercept", its very unlikely the enemy can see it and that it would compromise their stealth.

[@ericliume]

Number in service is not 74 but ~200

[@yuhuagao4858]

最少300架。

[@parthasdasgupta]

I think it's a very sleek plane. Look wise awesome. I am not a technical guy but engine nozzles are not covered! How they minimize IR signatures? Can anyone please elaborate.

[@tdolan500]

Common theme with Chinese and Russian “stealth” aircraft. Have the outward appearance of having stealth features but are missing the less glamorous details such as the correct nozzles, frameless canopies etc. I feel these aircraft are produced for the purpose of optics rather than having a major military value. The reality is the US is still decades ahead in technology and capability.

[@parthasdasgupta]

@@tdolan500 Thank you Sir.

[@parthasdasgupta]

@@robertm5160 Sir IR missiles don't follow exhaust of a jet engine. It track hot part of it. Part of the J20's engine is exposed and thus easier for IR missiles to track. F35's engine nozzle is also open. ( otherwise how the gas will pass) but beside the nozzle no other part is exposed. So lesser IR signature. I think you also know that.

[@Emphasis213]

The nozzles do have stealth features. If you look closely it has serrations to reflect some of the RF. Also it is not like the f22 because round nozzles are more efficient. They are maximizing the power from the engines by leaving the nozzles round.

[@paullittizzio234]

The Raptor's engines are probably extremely efficient, as well as an order of magnitude more stealthy than any round nozzles out there... which is basically everything OTHER than a -22. If there was any sort of tangible efficiency issue, it doesn't seem that any the countries that are trying to develop rectangular nozzles care much about it.

[@rodrigoquinonez2615]

The J20 is the jet fighter equivalent of a fake Chinese Rolex

[@a88304]

The honest answer? Who knows? They’ll probably never engage eachother and until that happens we won’t know their potential

[@didip5602]

The external appearance can be imitated, but it is not easy to imitate the technology, because aircraft or combat equipment is not about the appearance but the technology used.

[@tinto278]

J-20 primary mission is for taking out US, Japanese and Australian AWACS's and Tankers. WVR or "Within Visual Range" is its second mission and its too heavy and fat to do it well.

[@l.a.xgunner]

Same with the Russia A2A missiles. Most of their newer models were designed to knock out Western AWACS.

[@_Chad_ThunderCock]

It's still lighter than the F15 so I don't see exactly why it can't do well in WVR, whats it's bigger problem is actually is the lack of a cannon for dogfighting

[@thejeffinvade]

J20 is more of a hybrid between an attack aircraft and a flighter. Since China doesn't have stealth bombers yet, they will have a great role to play on air to surface attacks.

[@thejeffinvade]

J 20 has F35 style EOTS which will make a big difference in helping them spot F22 first. Assuming both sides will not open their radar which will give away their position, and awacs on both sides can't spot incoming flighters until it's too late.

[@aztronomy7457]

@@thejeffinvade youtube is illegal in China

[@jamismirs8353]

We have a submarine aircraft carrier. Be ready.

[@SteDews]

Combat range 1100 miles? im smelling some bull there

[@thejeffinvade]

More like fighter jet ferry range

[@aztronomy7457]

@@thejeffinvade bot spotted

[@thejeffinvade]

@@aztronomy7457 SMH...... At least you can try to be more substantive than that.

[@aztronomy7457]

@@thejeffinvade keep up the spying

[@fredbyoutubing]

Maybe the Chinese military don't count the return trip 🤷‍♂

[@americannumber2]

Nothing about the jet but how the hell did they develop it last 10 years

[@junayedkhan1999]

Reverse engineering 😁

[@americannumber2]

@@junayedkhan1999 remind me when us sell jet to China

[@isthisshabab4561]

F-35's works like drone swarms and that is what makes it superior

[@lktan224]

Yes it has a submarine mode too.

[@isthisshabab4561]

@@lktan224 don't be afraid, experts know way more than I do. I'm not exposing any secrets

[@DevoST7972]

Military fighters that still have people in them are just for show these days

[@Absolut531kmh]

All j20, f22 and f35 is different In terms of roles. J20: long range fighter F22: aggressive dogfight fighter F35: b2 spirit but less bombs and faster.

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

The F-35 doesn't even need to ever dogfight, it can destroy threats from an entirely different country before they even know they're under attack, like happened in the Iran-Iraq War. It's like a mini B2 with better stealth, that can use the best missiles the world currently has. I heard it's an absolute nightmare trying to get new-ish missiles to work with old planes, especially the F-16.

[@byhyew]

@@hedgeearthridge6807 The American Pacific Command would argue otherwise. They did mentioned how their F35s were intercepted by J20s. So not so much about undetectable.

[@kiro9257]

@@byhyewI believe all LO aircrafts in peacetime have Luneberg lenses installed in the fuselage to avoid proper reading of the RCS. I think this is the reason why the Indians saw the J-20, the Americans with the J-20 and vise versa for the Chinese. It makes sense actually since there’s no reason to reveal your cards when there’s no reason to do so.

[@Silicon12340]

F-22 is not meant for dogfights. It's for air superiority mainly

[@Absolut531kmh]

@@Silicon12340 Though it's the best dogfighter out of the three that's what I'm tryna say

[@defaultdummy245]

The equivalent of the dudes in Africa that carve a Ferrari out of wood and put a tuktuk engine inside. China would rather copy exterior appearances and revamp tech that doesn't work rather than innovate. Typical.

[@ridhobaihaqi144]

Damn! My social credits +1000 points because likes this jet fighter.

[@Hystericall]

pay your bills, maybe your credit score will get better.

[@arkinjade355]

TEMU J35 available now

[@joselee9605]

The US is strong because their people worked hard. To compete with China , every person in the US has to pull the weight of 4 Chinese people. And now, considering the modern generation in the comment section is still relying on the head start given to them by previous generations guarantees they will lose that head start .

[@englishparcc1989]

Well, the US is stronger than China also because it didn't have its country destroyed by WW2 and a civil war immediately afterwards, and before that centuries of Western imperialism

[@garyeuscher4499]

Don’t blame Chinese incompetence and backwardness on other countries. China is and has been corrupt, well before the white man arrived

[@F22Raptow]

J-20 just looks like china just ctrl+c ctrl+v the F-22💀

[@yhw6971]

那么问题来了，歼20多出来的鸭翼是从哪里抄的

[@ulyssis]

You haven’t really seen a f22 and j20 side by side, have you?😂

[@seycheles27]

That thing is huge. It will be as stealthy as a school bus.

[@ProAvgeek6328]

wtf? size does not mean bad stealth!

[@jasonlee148]

By that logic militaries should be using amazon drones to carry out strike and bombing missions .

[@JohnDoe-jp4em]

The B-2 is twice as big and very stealthy, and the F-22 is just a meter shorter.

[@adamc2378]

truly living up to your name

[@Relikaintcominback]

“It’s not the plane it’s the pilot”

[@bertjilk3456]

Quick reminder: nine months ago, videos just like this one talked about how powerful Russia's military was, including their 4th & 5th gen fighters. That all turned out to be complete rubbish. More well-choreographed propaganda (that many believed) than actual reality. When push came to shove, Russia was/is rather pathetic. We don't know much about the J-20, but I don't think it's nearly as capable as many suggest. They do look the part, just like the much vaunted SU-57 (where has that been, BTW?). In short, not much to worry about, get on with your lives. 😅

[@thomaszhang3101]

And Russian GDP is equivalent to that of a third rate Chinese province, while China is churning out more engineers per year than the total population of engineers in America.

[@Nainara32]

To paraphrase Warren Buffet, "It's only when the tide goes out that you learn if Chinese manufacturers have been swimming naked."

[@lcplapiata5501]

When you believe in the ghost of Kyiv 😂🤣

[@_Chad_ThunderCock]

@@thomaszhang3101 their posting out more scientific papers as well

[@_Chad_ThunderCock]

Russian jets had outdated avionics. I mean they're the only 4++ gen fighters still using PESA radars. In theory China's jets seem to be more advanced

[@ajoo129]

The thing is the J20 is designed to do dogfight, while the F22 is designed to kill the enemy fighters from far away..... You can't compare an apple to an orange....

[@bobsmith3983]

The J-20's PL15 missile which has a AESA radar seeker far outranges anything the west has so the F-22 can't even get close enough to launch its AAMRAM.

[@ajoo129]

@@bobsmith3983 but F22 stealth capabilities so good that only few planes could detect it..... also chinese / russians and US has different doctrine, i already mention the doctrine on the main comment Both good anyway, so it's depends on the pilot's skills....

[@hu9818]

Took weeks for US to shoot a Chinese balloon. And we’re here comparing apple to apple?

[@rsoul7282]

What has the ‘mighty dragon’ ever destroyed? If it is so secretive, why is there so many videos close up of it, and it displayed at air shows? It is designed for parades, not war fighting.

[@ラーメンのボス]

@@rsoul7282Joe Biden can’t even shoot down a Chinese balloon 😂

[@AAAXXX-ch3oh]

@@rsoul7282 It's so funny, because China's air defense is very good and there is no need to use missiles to shoot down balloons

[@ExternalPress]

Of course Locked Martin ..

[@dallasyap3064]

F-22 RCS is significantly smaller than the J-20

[@ajaykumarsingh702]

It serves no purpose against J-20. It is good to invade enemy airspace and hit the target and flee.

[@byhyew]

You're either exposing classified intel or talking about things you don't know. Better stop it either way...

[@tsugutakameyer8912]

@@byhyew Canards. Ever heard of em

[@bobsmith3983]

The F-22 wold be detected and targeted through the J-20's IRST long before the AESA radars of each aircraft detect each other.

[@Twirlyhead]

Two warring countries send all of their respective stealth fighter fleets up to fight each other in one big _settler_ air battle. All aircraft from both sides return safely to their bases with _nothing to report._

[@justsaythewordzoinks3896]

Mach 2.25? I thought f22's top speed was classified. I'm guessing its definitely over mach 3. Also j20 operational numbers are not 74 but over 100 according to many sources.

[@pell9538]

Seriously doubt its mach 3, the f22 wasnt made for speed while aircraft like the f15 were meant to be speedy but are still only Mach 2 aircraft, the only mach 3 combat jets in service are mig-31's as far as i can tell and they made huge sacrifices to preformance in order to achieve that speed.

[@yuhuagao4858]

300

[@biochemwang2421]

Well, if an airplane has top speed over Mach 3, it will not shape like F-22 or J-20. It will have to have narrow delta wings. Simple physics.

[@神成子]

J-20 is 2.8

[@bobsmith3983]

The F-22 can't do mach 3 as the engines do not have enough thrust.

[@blaccdong7810]

Its not the planes, its the pilots.

[@GameplayTubeYT]

They also copy Russian Mig 144

[@bobsmith3983]

You guys can't make you minds up, is a copy of the F-22 or the MIG 1.44?

[@GameplayTubeYT]

@@bobsmith3983 airframe of Mig 144 with f22 Stealth Characteristics.

[@斌成]

​@@GameplayTubeYTJ20实际上是从J10战机的基础上研发出来的，包括他的飞控系统都是从J10数据的基础上改进的，再融合隐身，双发，鸭翼，长航程等指标后，最终在风洞中吹出来的气动外形。整个研发过程根本就和和F22或者Mig1.44没有任何关系。

[@muhacnt7988]

In case of all out war only thing thst matters is who can churn out more during the ongoing war

[@freies-handwer-org]

Tofu dreg made in china 😂

[@ChunWang-vb7yu]

bridges and airports collape everyday in superpower india

[@rf8003]

Its more likely to be 4.5 gem...

[@135e1f]

man shut up

[@telchinealucard8055]

The numbers has increased

[@robam3801]

if its made by the same people and with the same care and attention as my toaster is we need not worry

[@ceesj.m.lanting2669]

How about your iPhone or PC ?

[@zwen3763]

The factory don't decide what to make, the customers do. Pay up, we got you covered. Don't be a cheap ass no more.

[@garyeuscher4499]

Designed and chips not made in China. Assembled in China So what

[@k54122]

Rooster: its not the plane, its the pilot.

[@amiigose]

yes , try use ww2 plane and dogfight with plane today😅

[@awaisali9596]

The air defence controlling the whole fight plays an equal role for the fight as much as a pilot does so its not only pilot skills.

[@mycoolbeernuts6870]

Is the J-20 going to Data Link wth a Balloon? - Having a vast arsenal of battlespace intelligence is where it's at - It guides the Boom to the Goon

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

The thing about the F-35 is we don't yet know the specifics of why it's so incredible, all that stuff is classified. But like Lazerpig said, the F-35 is like a gun, and all other planes are like crossbows. They're not even comparable. With modern missiles, it doesn't even need to be in the same country as the enemy. We can't actually make realistic comparisons

[@jasonlee148]

Such a "badass" plane, still lost in Afghanistan against goat herders.

[@vincentphan5097]

@@jasonlee148 Exactly. I can see J-20 transforming into Optimus prime leading the Barbados 🇧🇧 to victory against Britain on foot

[@netrubbish]

And the F35 has better stealth technology. It can dive into the ocean to hide in the botttom of the sea motionless and and stay silent

[@MD97531]

@@jasonlee148you one of those clowns able to argue the US lost in Afghanistan but Russia is winning in Ukraine? 😂

[@jsc3417]

@@MD97531 how much land did the US gain in Afghistan over 20 years and how much land did Russia gain in Ukraine in less than one year?

[@ErrorXTech]

Totally different design and aerodynamics, let alone different Internal complex Engineering.

[@MrAero_1]

The J-20 just doesn't compare to them at all. China can boost up themselves all they want , just like Russia did and we all know how that turned out. The F-35 and F-22 are more than just a stealth body, the technology in them are decades ahead

[@sneakymove]

Ya. Same like china space station, Beidou Navigation Satelite , 5G technology, 6G, high speed rail, hypersonic missiles....they are all decades away compare to US. Those are all fakes in China, and doesn't exist. Its just plain impossible chinese can invent those technologies. Those tech must be stolen from US. Eventho US might not have it yet, but yea, it Must be stolen from somewhere or someone in US. Only Anglo Saxon kind have that kind of brain. US is the most powerfulllll, just as US people are the smartesttttt of all ....like forever.....even no alien species can defeat US.... Are u happy to hear all that? U win. Hahahaha!

[@pell9538]

The stealth and especially the sensors of the f35 specifically are the most advanced in the world no doubt about it but i wouldnt scoff at what china's done. They've leaped forward technologically at a very fast rate and left their father Russia in the dust, i wouldnt underestimate them.

[@VittonLou]

Exactly, it's just all about the hype.

[@gazzman6547]

@@pell9538 Ah yes. They've leaped forward technologically by stealing US technologies and still behind of F22's 30 years old tech. Very impressive china. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@GrowFoodSustainably]

@@pell9538 By my understanding the J20 pilots will, in a dog fight, deliberately fall into a 'take missile hit' position so that rearward air-to-air missile(s) are fired at pursuing American fighter planes. This 'pretend to retreat' tactic has been used for a couple of thousand years

[@Sayoutubefree]

They are similar as VW Golf and Mybach: both do have four wheels😂

[@edlee8949]

Without stealing, I think the Chinese are still flying Mig-15.

[@Ramirez83786]

Those canards would rip off if it's highly stressed.

[@superpooper_2030]

None 5th generation fighters ever been in real combat vs another 5th generation. Based on Indian logic, India Tejas MK2 will be superpower jet in real combat

[@bobsmith3983]

Tejas!! LOL!

[@MidlandsAviation]

Got one of these from Temu it's not bad

[@stuartwiner7920]

This doesn't really tell anything that will make a difference. Stealth and avionics are closely-held secrets. I'm always curious why America made a smaller plane. They probably need a slightly bigger one for competitive range, so they wouldn't have to refuel so often and have that vulnerability. At some point they may super-size it, like they did with the super-hornet.

[@DKLGalactus5]

Possibly better technology that's why the can make it smaller and more efficient.

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

Smaller plane means smaller RCS...better stealth. The J-20 may have better range, but its bigger size means it will be spotted on radar long before the smaller F-22.

[@r3yuk682]

thats not how it works@@SelfProclaimedEmperor

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

@@r3yuk682 That's exactly how RCS work, there are other factors but size plays a big role, if you cant mitigate it.

[@r3yuk682]

the size of raptor and j 20 isnt that diff so the rcs not going to diff@@SelfProclaimedEmperor

[@Coconimama1009]

Looks like a flying card board

[@cypeman8037]

Are the statistics on the Chinese jets verified or are they what the Chinese claim? And how much is postage delivered to my door? And don't try and force it through the letterbox.

[@yuning8045]

They are US/Russia/EU analyst claims, China didn't say a word about the j-20

[@Rokko-lh4fg]

F35 are ok ... but where are this beauty planes? They show only F16 !! So ? 😅

[@CtrlOptDel]

After the US refused to sell F-22s to the UK it’ll be simultaneously hilarious & outrageous if the US tries to demand in a few years that we sell them Tempests to combat future Chinese aircraft… 🤨

[@ItzD3fW1sH]

Didn't know about tempest. Looks interesting!

[@_Chad_ThunderCock]

They're working on their own 6th gen fighter so I don't see them asking UK for tempest. I don't even think USA has ever really bought any foreign fighters for use in their military really

[@jej3451]

Were Harriers not considered fighters?

[@_Chad_ThunderCock]

@@jej3451 ah forgot about that. However, I at the moment I don't see a reason USA would want to buy a foreign 5/6 gen fighter jets.

[@CtrlOptDel]

@@_Chad_ThunderCock Depends if they can actually get their 6th gen fighter working in time. They bought the Harrier (& replaced a few parts so they could claim it was a different, American, aircraft called the “McDonnell Douglas AV-8B”) because they couldn’t make a comparable aircraft of their own.

[@josef596]

They copy and pasted it from a Satelite image. 😂

[@ripperrouge5985]

But it was made In China 😬

[@Jindinhackerhelp]

Dji drones made in China and you guys cant even afford it lol

[@mranonymous8815]

Problem: are apples or oranges better for nutrition, which is cheaper to cultivate under certain conditions, can they both grow in a certain region, how much water do they consume etc. ? Internet: don't compare apples and oranges!

[@factorydriver1050]

Good job chinese. Smart people

[@GrowFoodSustainably]

By my understanding the J20 pilots will, in a dog fight, deliberately fall into a 'take missile hit' position so that rearward air-to-air missile(s) are fired at pursuing American fighter planes. This 'pretend to retreat' tactic has been used for a couple of thousand years

[@dareforyou]

Ain’t even battled but already lost 😂

[@abelambutsi5749]

J 20 is a toy while f 22 is a fighter aircraft

[@Planecrazydude-on8ho]

Ah yes look at the size pictures of ‘the toy’

[@Sam-vs2vw]

if a fully functional stealth combat aircraft platform is only considered a "toy", I wonder what they have that they consider as "fighter aircraft" :)

[@nt178]

Probably full of water, like the bombs

[@Ianmundo]

for a BVM engagement this is a potent machine, but the sensor fusion of the F35 and dogfighting ability of the F22 would absolutely wreck this giant lump

[@Withnail1969]

I doubt it. It would just outrange those planes and shoot them down with long range missiles.

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

@@Withnail1969 Uh...no. Longer range missiles mean nothing if you cant see your enemy. The F-22 has a RCS of a marble, J-20 has the RCS of a truck tire. F-22 will fire first and leave before J-20 can shoot back.

[@Withnail1969]

@@SelfProclaimedEmperor oh come on, nobody believes that nonsense. The F22 is visible on radar and China's missiles greatly outrange anything the F22 has. But that doesnt even matter. Know what the J20's primary target is? The fuel tanker planes. They'll shoot those down and the F22s will never reach China.

[@syrez156]

​@Withnail1969 do you even know what you're talking about???

[@Issaviiibe]

China has 128 of them as of feb 2023 ..and all combat ready ,your estimation of 74 almost 3 months ago was not accurate at all.. the US has 123 and that doesn’t exclude non combat ready ones

[@garyeuscher4499]

More CCP lies!

[@tty2020]

Wrong info in the video. There are 150 J20 in service. And it is a better stealth plane than F35.

[@dR4JqsCL34BoACLghUjM]

😂😂😂😂😂 "Made in China" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@nightwing.3378]

This plane look epic,

[@Noobmaster-yc2pf]

The J-20 looks like a cheap knockoff they tried to copy F-22 it might fall apart if it goes Mach 1.

[@squeeze999]

🤣

[@bobsmith3983]

You must be blind as both aircraft are quite different in execution. The F-22 is being retired soon so they are irrelevant.

[@TripleNpple]

I just remembered those engines aren't the same as the F35 they have a huge thermal print and also not stealth capable at all... 😅

[@UngoyPrime]

With China’s highly competent cyber warfare and land acquisitions literally next to U.S installations internationally/domestically. It’s without a doubt the J-20 has U.S stealth technology.

[@SelfProclaimedEmperor]

Lol no, the files they stole from Lockheed Martin were 256 bit encrypted, it would take a super computer 30 years to crack it, and its only been 10 years since they got the files

[@darkevola7975]

bro, love how you online china b0ts try to show china as even a competent country, when it cant even win in air warfare against Taiwan.

[@jb76489]

Source: I made it up

[@holycrap8367]

It looks beautiful, not gonna lie