Eureka Oro Mignon Single Dose Coffee Grinder Review

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@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Pre Order & Secure the Eureka Oro Mignon Single Dose for Dispatch Late January 2022!
@tonyromano2391
@tonyromano2391 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always Josh😁😁
@Cyb3rGlitch
@Cyb3rGlitch 2 жыл бұрын
Your can get retention down on this grinder by turning the machine back on after you've finished. The change in momentum knocks a bit of extra coffee out without resorting to RTD.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
That's great advice 👍
@rommiemex9532
@rommiemex9532 2 жыл бұрын
These guys have a great store, love the help they offer.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
thanks so much !
@george_taylor
@george_taylor 2 жыл бұрын
You can't really judge a grinder's dust or clumping until the burrs are properly seasoned. I RTD-ed my beans when my Niche Zero was new but after 6 months it settled down and is fine now. Going by the price on your website it looks like it is 50% more expensive than the Niche Zero. I have a hard time persuading people to spend more on grinders. Most baulk at the NZ's price label. Nice and quiet though and 65mm flats are tempting but I went from 65mm's (Macap) to the NZ's conical and it doesn't justify the price difference. Is that in part because you can only buy the NZ directly from Niche and not through a re-seller like yourselfs? Great video. Finally someone did a professional video review of it.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
100% the burrs need much more seasoning before qualifying results completely - I'm excited for the Eureka SDG, as it's already performing well out of the box. I agree, at this point I can not really see Home grinders getting any more expensive, it's certainly a niche to own a grinder that costs as much as the machine itself almost - and hopefully we see more inexpensive grinders being produced using similar approaches to single dosing with low retention, & high performance.
@collincaldwell2823
@collincaldwell2823 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been a fan of the look of the niche. This grinder is beautiful.
@ipettkov
@ipettkov Жыл бұрын
FYI: The bellows and the hopper are available to purchase separately. I have them on my spezialita and they are aweseome! :)
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! alternativebrewing.com.au/products/eureka-mignon-single-dose-blow-up-cleaning-kit alternativebrewing.com.au/products/eureka-single-dose-clear-hopper
@Assenayo
@Assenayo 2 жыл бұрын
I would love the bellows on my existing Eureka
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping to get these available soon ! 👍
@raevenphillips417
@raevenphillips417 2 жыл бұрын
FWIW, Eureka has announced that they will be releasing their OEM Single Dose Hoppper and their "Blow Up" system bellows for their entire Mignon series. So they do seem to really be trying to cater to people who have their grinders but also want to single dose. :) So, it will give you a very similar experience to the Oro Mignon SD. In addition, as you probably know, you can purchase a third party 15 degree incline base to put the grinder on. Hope that helps!
@johannes469
@johannes469 9 ай бұрын
I have a question regarding the grind size numbers you mentioned. Does 2 as the lower end of the espresso range mean, that you turn it all the way to the right until the end, and then turn 2 numbers on the adjustment wheel to the left?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 9 ай бұрын
That’s correct 👍
@tiantianzhang8476
@tiantianzhang8476 2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering how would one go about cleaning this? I bought this machine from you guys a couple month back and now it’s the time 😃
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
nice 👌 Cleaning it -- turn it off and unplug. Remove the plastic hopper. - I would usually vacuum clean out the font chute and inside the grind chamber prior to unscrewing the screws on the square plate on top of the grinder. - Lifting this off - you'll have full access to the Burr chamber - and you can vacuum it out and use a brush to get in everywhere - you'd also be able to remove the top burr if you would like for a further clean - but it's not 100% necessary.
@sarasalleh5545
@sarasalleh5545 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a well-made video. Just bought one last weekend, and still trying to figure out the perfect grind.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! That's the fun part. For espresso or Filter?
@sarasalleh5545
@sarasalleh5545 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing for espresso! My shots are either too long or too short 😩 I wonder if it’s because of my inconsistent tamping or the Silvia V6 water pressure
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarasalleh5545 No, sounds like you have a very good setup there -and tamping wont give you too wild a result. I bet you're doing everything just fine. Hwoever, the volume of the Espresso should remain the same everytime you brew it. But you should be achieving that volume in a set time too. This time will correlate back to your grind setting. 28sec is a good time to work towards to get your intended volume. - NOw if the shot comes out and is brewed too quickly to get to the volume you want - you need to incrementally fine up your grind until it slows down and is brewing slower. If your shot comes out way too slow - and takes a long time to reach your intended volume.. you need to coarsen the coffee up 👌 hope that helps. Try keep the amount of coffee you use, and the volume of coffee out the same, and adjust the grind to get the time you need it to brew for 😀
@Brianism9590
@Brianism9590 2 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate on the dial setting for espresso? Is the range 2-5 mean 2 to 5 full spins clockwise, assuming the starting position O is at the farthest counter-clockwise position?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
The starting point being 0, and any finer than 0 the burrs will begin to touch. I found the grind size I required for espresso ( different beans used ) was from moving the dial from 0 to 2, and then the range of espresso was from moving the dial from 2 -5. So not full turns but the numbers themselves. This will differ greatly for people so, as I was using fresh beans and a large dose -let's say you're using the opposite - stale beans and smaller doses - you're grind size may be finer or coarser than that
@MrJusmobile
@MrJusmobile 2 жыл бұрын
Once you showed me the maintenance, I put in the order!!
@akent46
@akent46 Жыл бұрын
Should look great next to a black Quick Mill Pippa!
@Coffeeluver22
@Coffeeluver22 7 ай бұрын
To zero it out the number for me has usually ended up on 2. So when you give their numbers for espresso is that 2-5 numbers past the zero point? I ask because I have have to use 8-9 on the dial to get it dialed in.
@friendlyghostkinda
@friendlyghostkinda Жыл бұрын
What’s a cleaner work flow. This or a eureka typical shape with single below attachment? Is this easier to dial than silenZia?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
I would say, single dosing your beans in to a Eureka Silenzio - using a Single Dosing Hopper with the Bellows "Blow Up Hopper" and a Barista Hustle or Normcore Dosing ring - grinding straight in to the Portafilter 👌
@BensCoffeeRants
@BensCoffeeRants 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely FAST, but not as quiet as The Specialita was. Mine seems to have a (common?) issue where the chute gets too clogged up for the bellows to actually work, the coffee still comes out, but bellows does nothing. Compared to the DF64 grinder, the Eureka burrs seem to be more similar to Conical burr style to me. It seems to work well with medium chocolately roasty coffees and milk drinks, but with light roasts the clarity is lower and flavours seem more blended together.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
H Ben, thanks for sharing your experiences with the Eureka grinder. I can't say I've had the same issue - it might be humidity or a particular coffee issue - that I'm not discovering here in Australia. I can say, that using the Eureka without the Bellows is very underwhelming. I'm curious to see your results with Grindz and retention on the Eureka - that's a great way to witness the exchange that happens inside the burr chamber.
@chrismccannIRL
@chrismccannIRL Жыл бұрын
I've been very tempted by this. I only make 2-3 espressos a day usually and have an ECM Mechanika Slim VI Heritage on its way. Would you recommend this over say the Libra or Mignon XL. Also I see there has been an Oro Pro announced by Eureka as well as some other interesting models such as the Techo. Should I wait until they hit the shelves to decide? Thanks
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Great question. Im not all over the new Eureka models - so cannot account for or speak of them. Between the Libra, Oro and XL - I'd go the Eureka Oro Single Dose Grinder. Same as the XL, it has bigger burrs and a bigger motor than the Libra - as well as better retention and look than the XL. It's currently a cheaper grinder too 👌
@chrismccannIRL
@chrismccannIRL Жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing thanks so much for responding. I see Eureka launched a load of new models. Some quite exciting. Not likely to be available until 2024 sometime so I think I’ll pick up the cheaper Mignon Zero for now and look out for the Oro Pro single dose next year. Thanks again
@davidedesousa
@davidedesousa 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Any chance you could make another video comparing to another single dose grinder?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
on its way 😀
@raevenphillips417
@raevenphillips417 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Great video but left me with two questions: you covered that it *can* do from Turkish to Cold Brew grind sizes but not how easy it is to regularly switch back and forth (once dialed in). So, for instance, if you know that 3.5 is one's espresso sweet spot and 27 is one's French Press, how repeatable are those settings? I've heard from Eureka owners of the Silenzia type (some who also modded for Single Dosing) that it would be a total nightmare to go back and forth and they wouldn't even consider it, given how little a change makes for a very different grind. Given this has a slightly different knob, I'd love to hear your thoughts (even if its in the upcoming video comparing to the current most popular Single Dosing Grinder, which I saw you said was on its way). It would be a great comparison since the Niche Zero is said to be amazingly easy to switch back and forth on and very repeatable. The other question is regarding the comment about dark roasts doing better on conical burrs vs light to medium roasts on flat. Can you please elaborate and give some context on this? I really don't understand why that would be the case but I'd love to learn. I'm trying lighter roasts but can't quite find that flavor we love so much in dark roasts, which is what we do most (maybe because we like more milk/cream type drinks). Thanks so much! Any additional info you can share would be hugely appreciated!!
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Raeven, Thanks for your questions! Niche owns it for usability. The Eureka is able to swap between grind settings - but as we were comparing it to the Niche - than the Niche wins that one. The Eureka has a smaller dial - with more than one rotation to go between Filter and Espresso - and you don't know what rotation you are on. The Niche - it's all pretty much there on one rotation and very clear what setting you're on. So there's generally two styles of burrs - Flat and Conical - the Niche is a Conical burrs grinder, and the Eureka is a Flat buur. Due to the geometry of the burrs mainly, but also the way the beans are feed in to the burrs and the RPM of the burrs - these two burrs styles produce different grind distributions. So within the ground coffee, there is always going to be larger and smaller grind particles than is the ideal - intended grind size your are after. These are referred to as Fines and Boulders. Grind size affects the extraction of your brewed coffee dramatically; so will different distributions of particles sizes with in the ground sample - and in turn the flavour of your coffee. Flat burr grinders create a distribution that is unimodal, and this means you have the majority of your grinds at the ideal grind size - and an even distribution of sizes tailing aways from the main peak. This produces brewed coffee that is very clean and transparent - as there is generally less of the other grind sizes extracting at different rates - to muddle the balance of the brewed coffee. Imagine subtle flavours like peach, apricot, and more acidic coffees like orange etc.. This flavour profile lends itself to fruit forward tasting coffees - as the cleanliness of the brew is able to highlight the sweetness and acidity in the cup. However we have also learnt - that it does come with some drawbacks - notably the clean cup profile tends to lack texture in the cup. (imagine the texture difference in drinking water vs. full cream milk.) The texture will add to the perceived body in the cup, as well as lingering flavour. Conical burrs produce a bi-modal grind distribution, - where there is two peaks of grinds within the distribution - one main peak, of your ideal grind size, and one smaller peak, about 10-20% finer than your ideal size. These fines are what gives the results brews from a Conical burr grinder great texture. Literally imagine it as getting more grit in your cup 😂 - but not really - it's just the fines add an extra profile to the extraction - that highlights the body a little more - at the expense of it sometimes being not as clean, transparent or a little muddle. This profile favours chocolate forward coffees - but also darker fruit, say like raisins and plums as an example. Now, dark roasted coffee tend to be chocolate forward tasting coffees, and lighter roasted coffee tends to be of the fruit forward tasting coffee. - This is not without exceptions, and is not a hard and fast rule. It's only when you taste the same coffee side by side on flat and conical burrs that a distinction can be made. You can absolute brew good coffee no matter how it's roasted using either Burr styles, and that will depend on the skill of the barista - but it would be much harder - or even say impossible to get both coffees, made on separate burr styles to taste the same. Here's a good analogy I've adapted for this: You're tasting the coffee- as if your looking through the window at a view, and it is the view that is the taste of the coffee, the burrs are like the window panes - and each pane of glass in the window is a different color and pattern, depending on the burrs that you use. The view is the same, and can be appreciated both ways - but is inherently also a different experience at the same time. And naturally - milk goes well with Chocolate, as a flavour match - and would be preferred over Milk with Orange or any other fruit for that matter. You can enjoy subtle fruit flavour in a milk coffee - and there's always lighter flavours of caramel too - but if your aim is something like Dark chocolate, fruit and nut, rich burnt caramel etc - you will find these more often in medium-dark roasted coffee and more pronounced when brewed using a Conical burr grinder. Hope that all makes sense! 😀
@raevenphillips417
@raevenphillips417 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing Absolutely BRILLIANT! This has to be one of the clearest comparisons I've read and easiest to understand. Sometimes the comparisons between burrs can get so esoteric that it's difficult to really wrap ones head around. Your response helped so much - seriously. Thank you SO much. I've also never had anyone explain texture as clearly as you did - such a simple comparison of water to full fat milk but I instantly could understand the differences in texture like I never could before. I think that writing about food and drink can be very much like translating from one language into another. In this case, from the language of taste, into English. You are truly amazing in your ability to explain the different tastes and textures. Even though people say that there's no right or wrong with what type of coffee someone likes, I have to admit to feeling bad about myself, out of step with the world, out of vogue that I tend to prefer dark roast coffees. I grew up in the UK as a teenager and started drinking strong, dark roast coffee that most available and my spouse also spend significant time there ending up with very similar tastes. We both like milk based drinks, too. I know that the light roasts are all the rage right now with people abandoning darks roasts. I've been trying some light roasts to try to expand my palate and experiences but thus far, I just don't like it as well. Don't know if it's the bean, the brew, not using enough beans, etc. Would you say, though, that the conical burrs of the Niche would compliment dark and medium roasts well? I know it can do light roasts, too, but it sounds like the Niche might be a really good fit for the style of coffee we're enjoying most right now. Once again, thank you so, SO much for taking the time to write such an incredible, thorough, and thoughtful response to my questions. I also really appreciate you explaining the difference in unimodal vs bimodal. Super helpful! You have rare understanding and insight and an even more rare quality in your ability to communicate those thoughts and insights so clearly. Thank you again. I know you invested quite a bit of time writing that. I'm truly grateful and I learned so much from your response.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
@@raevenphillips417 It's my pleasure. Glad I can help out and share what I've experienced. So, yes the Niche is absolutely the pick for darker roasted coffee. The burrs that the Niche uses are Mazzer burrs. Now Mazzer have been around along time making espresso grinders - long before Light roasted coffee and Flat Burr grinders were the trend. Tasting good dark roasted coffee on the Niche for me, is like seeing a dear old friend I haven't seen in along while 😂 and as a milk based drink - is still some of my most memorable coffees enjoyed.
@christianw2753
@christianw2753 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing Very educating explanation. Thank you for taking the time to provide it!
@Leantesta
@Leantesta Жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing what a fantastic explanation. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge!! Cheers!!
@KOTAKVISUAL
@KOTAKVISUAL 2 жыл бұрын
Wowwww beautiful grinder 😁🤙
@mannyr8795
@mannyr8795 Жыл бұрын
Ive seen complaints of coffee ending up in the table. Since it doesn’t take a portafilter, did you get a lot of coffee ground spillage??
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
no more than other grinders in this range - ie: the Niche does it as well 🫶
@mannyr8795
@mannyr8795 Жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing too bad It’s a pain in the ass to get state side
@foreigninfluence
@foreigninfluence 2 жыл бұрын
I also just received this grinder but I am still having trouble grinding coarse coffee for pour over. I tried to loose the knob a lot but still not able to get consistency coarse grind. There are still lots of fine powder which makes the pour very slow.
@Phil-qe9hb
@Phil-qe9hb 2 жыл бұрын
I'm having the same issue. Always loads of fines even at coarser settings. Also when trying to go back to espresso range instead of 2-3 I now have to go down to 0-1 get the same shot time I got before. All a bit frustrating.
@AgePix
@AgePix 2 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between the classico & the silenzio apart from the notice reduction? TIA
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Slightly different dimensions otherwise
@zheranli9048
@zheranli9048 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alternative Brewing and others, Just wondering if you have some thoughts on comparing the grind quality of this Eureka SDG to a Eureka Specialita when used to single dose. Would you expect similar grind quality, and just a superior experience with the SDG or actually a difference in grind quality? If so, just wondering what exactly causes the difference? Thanks!
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Great question. The larger burrs on the SDG will grind more efficiently than smaller burrs. So with the beans spending less time between the burrs, becoming the correct grind size faster - there is less chances of more fines to be found in the grind quality of the SDG. Or the converse, with smaller burrs on the Specialita, it takes more time to grind a dose, and in doing so, the beans stay in the grinder longer and fracture over and over again more often. Each time a bean is fractured, it creates fines. It's an unavoidable outcome of grinding coffee beans - ( but can be decreased with deeply frozen beans). So the Eureka SDG is expected to have a better grind performance than the Specialita.
@zheranli9048
@zheranli9048 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing thanks guys, appreciate it! So I understand how the larger burrs on the SDG will perform better than the smaller burrs on the Specialita, but do you guys think using the Specialita to single dose compared to just loading up its hopper will make a difference in grind quality?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
@@zheranli9048 100% it would yes. This is to do with retention in the pathway the coffee takes out the chute. With a full hopper - you will have beans - half smashed in between the burrs, some sitting in the burr chamber and some already ground up - sitting in the chute - waiting 24hrs for you to grind a dose out again... you can purge this amount out - which does help - but is so wasteful. So with Single Dosing, you place a fresh amount through the grinder - and that amount only, comes freshly gound out - and this is the quality you are after. 3mins after grinding coffee - you loose most of the fresh vibrant and lively aromas of the coffee that contribute to the taste.
@zheranli9048
@zheranli9048 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing that all makes sense! Thanks for the response. So then for instance if I'm making back to back shots on my Specialita (so no 24hr old half ground coffee in the grinder) you'd expect similar results to if I single dose on the Specialita even though it's not a single dose grinder? Thanks!
@princediesel1
@princediesel1 2 жыл бұрын
I have been enjoying my Niche for a year now , this looks interesting
@jiffjiffernson7292
@jiffjiffernson7292 2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan, Hi - A moment of your time if I could? Are you able to grind at both ends of the spectrum i.e. espresso to French press effectively with the Niche. It would make appealing option to me as I am about to return a grinder (Fellow Ode) for a warranty matter and love the idea of an all in one. Please feel free to provide all detail you would like to. Thank you, -Ken
@princediesel1
@princediesel1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jiffjiffernson7292 hello, yes , the niche works very well for French press, I personally was only a espresso drinker previously to owning the niche , I started making more pour over because the Niche settings are so easy to dial in , there is no other grinder that I have found that works so well with different beans and different settings with minimal effort , hope this helps :)
@aheinz
@aheinz 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Did you experience the grinder vibrating more than you would expect?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Not at all - almost the opposite. They've worked out everywhere that may vibrate and tried to eliminate it. It hums with the AC motor - and is supported by 6 rubber feet. The catch-cup sits on the massive steel base on the wood - and there is a rubber o-ring inside the metal base that stops the catch cup from vibrating.
@thibodaux3424
@thibodaux3424 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Specialita. Just wondering if/when the single dose hopper and bellows will be available for it. I've heard rumors that it will be and they are listed as accessories on Eureka's website.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
It's true, we'll be getting some as well - just waiting to hear back from suppliers
@thibodaux3424
@thibodaux3424 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing Cheers! How can I get notified when they're available?
@zaroc
@zaroc Жыл бұрын
Old video im sorry ive just purchased this grinder. Im gathering you're using 10 as a value of one full rotation? So 18 for aeropress would be round on to 0 then till 8 on the dial?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Yes 👍
@rotecrl9719
@rotecrl9719 2 жыл бұрын
I actually just looked over the video title quite quickly and read "Eureka Omikron". It really is time to end this pandemic, it's even messing with my wonderful imaginary coffee world now!
@JimboJones99
@JimboJones99 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the jab 💉 got to you
@lagerlad9019
@lagerlad9019 2 жыл бұрын
If this grinder is not suitable for dark roasts, what single dose grinder would you suggest?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Niche Zero 👍
@lagerlad9019
@lagerlad9019 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@BensCoffeeRants
@BensCoffeeRants 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's fine for dark roasts, Niche Zero (conical burr grinder) is also a good (probably better) choice.
@triumphrider9396
@triumphrider9396 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve used my Mignon Single Dose with three different dark roasts with excellent results in the cup and no clogging. I would recommend it for any roast level.
@timgerber5563
@timgerber5563 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing! I am wondering if the wooden plate where the dosing cup sits on is the same size as an acaia lunar. Could you check that out? Of course I weigh my beans before grinding, but just interested to know it the acaia could sit there as well as I like to control the dose that comes out as well.
@dhilliard
@dhilliard 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to know this as well 👍🏼
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Great question! The wooden base is in fact the exact same size as the Acaia Lunar... Unfortunately, the assembly of the Eureka Mignon's base, with the wooden part (this is magnetically attached) + the large metal catch cup holder (it's heavy!) is designed to eliminate any vibration that may make the Catch Cup move or rotate. Removing either of these two, the wooden part or the Metal base, does make the catch cup vibrate too much. You could possibly 3d Print something to replace the wooden holder, include magnets in it, and this would work , but the assemble as is will not accommodate a switch out of any of the parts for scales without resulting in too much vibration, as far as I can see.
@timgerber5563
@timgerber5563 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying!
@dhilliard
@dhilliard 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing Thank you - I’ve seen a few reviews covering the vibration this thing produces. I guess it goes to show the power of this motor in such a small package.
@back_to_the_bike8820
@back_to_the_bike8820 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this clear and complete essay. I have an NZ, but this one is also very interesting. I have a few questions since you invite them. Are you going to make a comparison of this Eureka Mignon with the NZ? Compared to a Eureka Mignon XL equipped with the Blow Up, advantages and disadvantages? Concerning the 2nd question, the advantage is the timer on the XL (no more need to weigh each dose; as I keep the NZ anyway); but what about the retention on the XL equipped with the Blow up? Thank you!
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Yes, the comparison is coming for sure 👍 Christmas morning was spent comparing the two for espresso ... very interesting! Great question about XL vs. Oro Mignon... I'd almost suggest the Oro XL and the Mignon, both will Blow-Up, have the exact same retention. So if you're looking for a timed based workflow - then go with the XL. Single Dosing, the mignon. - Otherwise, you should be able to fit the Mignon with a portafilter holder too, if you prefer the grind straight into the basket.
@back_to_the_bike8820
@back_to_the_bike8820 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing I have another question, sorry. I have a Nichez Zero at home, and a Eureka Mignon (with 50mm burrs) at the office.The XL (or the Eureka dosing acronym) would aim to have, at the office, a grinder with 65mm burrs. In your opinion, is there a really significant difference in the cup result when switching from 50mm flat burrs to 65mm flat burrs?
@cc93691
@cc93691 2 жыл бұрын
Does the hopper and bellows have compatibility with other eureka Mignon grinders, particularly the Oro Mignon XL?. Great review!
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is 👌
@jamesd8458
@jamesd8458 5 ай бұрын
JUNE 2024 - STILL WAY TOO MUCH VIBRATION. I purchased this grinder new in Australia. I had read all about the first batch's vibration issues, and that they'd been resolved. Sadly, these ORO Single Dose units still have 3-4 times the vibration of Eureka's upright grinders, even vs the XL with same 65mm burr set. I was shocked and disappointed, so I drove to the distributor to compare the Eureka range. The vibrations on their display Single Dose were almost as bad as the one shipped to me. I believe it is a fundamental flaw with the 15 degree tilt of the motor.
@decafcj
@decafcj 2 ай бұрын
Is the hopper compatible with Specialita?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 ай бұрын
Yes 🙌
@Cachapeluo
@Cachapeluo 2 жыл бұрын
Does the hopper throat the same size as the other Eureka Mignon grinders? I have a Specialita and would like to buy the Bellows hopper.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we will be getting Bellows - that can fit all the Mignon range!
@dhilliard
@dhilliard 2 жыл бұрын
Great break down - keep up the great work 👍🏼
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! thanks
@marcmonnerat4850
@marcmonnerat4850 2 жыл бұрын
Nice overview! But what are the advantages of an electric grinder over a good hand grinder, which is, by essence, single-dose only? At home, grinding by hand coffee for a few coffees is even relaxing :-)
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
I'd agree. There are some great HGs out there, that for under $500aud will outperform any espresso grinder under $500. For some it's the convenience factor alone.
@HaekalDaily
@HaekalDaily 2 жыл бұрын
This will be a strong niche grinder rival
@toasterboy708
@toasterboy708 2 жыл бұрын
Naaaahhhh. Like all Eurekas, it’s a pain in the ass to keep the setting precise if you’re switching grind types from espresso to pour over. Tiny little dial. 4 or 5 rotations to go from fine to coarse. Not too easy to keep the precision in settings like a lower ratio adjustment.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fair point - over the NZ, the comparison on grind dials, it's a clear winner ,the NZ. - but there's other things going for the ESD that the NZ doesn't quite compare to 😀 It's like 50/50 for me at the moment.
@HaekalDaily
@HaekalDaily 2 жыл бұрын
@@toasterboy708 for me, I prefer have multiple grinder, this grinder might be the best choice for my daily driver for espresso 😁
@NANA-gy7yx
@NANA-gy7yx 2 жыл бұрын
will ssp burrs fit? and how would that impact the dial ?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
No SSP burrs will not filt. Eureka are 65mm. SSP are 64mm sadly.
@duffyrides
@duffyrides 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@bobert6644
@bobert6644 2 жыл бұрын
How would this compare with the Df64?
@BensCoffeeRants
@BensCoffeeRants 2 жыл бұрын
DF64 has more clarity, better for lighter roasts (better for brew coffee too especially if you upgrade to any of the SSP options). DF64 bellows actually works and isn't just there to check off a marketing feature :p DF64 is cheaper but no name brand basically. DF64 has a sealed grinding chamber so grinds aren't going to get into the motor area. Eureka burrs seem more conical like and blend flavours together more, it seems like it works well for darker roasts and stuff with more chocolately profile, works well for milk drinks too. Seems like it was a bit rushed, I liked the Specialita better and taste quality was similar. Specialita is more quiet than DF64 or This one.
@RL-dc8si
@RL-dc8si 2 жыл бұрын
DF64 is made in China, and Eureka is made in Italy. If this is important to you.
@BensCoffeeRants
@BensCoffeeRants 2 жыл бұрын
@@RL-dc8si in this case it doesn't mean one has better build quality than the other. It seems df64 Is better built and works better out of the box so far.
@radiantav
@radiantav 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what Eureka did (if anything) to prevent super fines spreading through grinder internals when using blower? I’ve seen people mode other Mignons for single dosing and that “dust “ accumulation is the biggest issue with it.
@justin5020
@justin5020 2 жыл бұрын
I believe there was some work done behind the scenes to minimise this. Can't speak for it personally, but The Wired Gourmet did a review where his findings showed minimal fines throughout the internals after some usage. I think there were some problems originally with other Mignons being shipped with the wrong sized screws, causing the seal between the housing and burrs to be, well, improperly sealed. As far as the Oro SD goes, in addition to the assumption that the screw issue was rectified with this model, I do believe other adjustments were made to improve fines escaping as well. Albeit, I can't speak specifics. Hope that helps.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Curious too. I haven't open the Grinder up as much as the Wired Gourmet - and would honestly not recommend doing this without taking on the responsibility of losing the warranty if modifications are done. - But when removing the face-plate off to access the shoot, and burr chamber, I did notice fines present there - and am certain that the Bellows does cause this.
@toliscy
@toliscy 2 жыл бұрын
Does the bellow fit on the old mignons? Looks better than the 3D printed
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
It does 👌
@toliscy
@toliscy 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing thanks!
@SnowWhite-dr6xh
@SnowWhite-dr6xh 2 жыл бұрын
I see the Niche in the background there, out of focus.
@ericrudolph6615
@ericrudolph6615 2 жыл бұрын
Is this the EU version?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
No, AUS version, 220V.
@steverino5054
@steverino5054 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know. I've seen it for over $1000. That's a lot of money for a bean grinder.
@michaelsingh843
@michaelsingh843 2 жыл бұрын
Review or promotion ?
@markfallu7149
@markfallu7149 2 жыл бұрын
How would you say this grinder conpares to the lagom p64?
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
I get this question a lot - I'm happy to say both - but if you've found some part of the video helpful, insightful or useful than I'm not wasting your time. I appreciate every moment you spend watching our videos and am open to constructive feedback 😀
@michaelsingh843
@michaelsingh843 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing i would like to see what we dont like on this machine? compare to something at the same price or below which pulls a better shot? I like how this machine looks, im wanting one but is this machine for me? Apart from the burrs and look, its the Mignon manuale. In fact that a good idea for a video.
@Cenot4ph
@Cenot4ph 2 жыл бұрын
If you're spending 1k usd you might as well go for the Lagom P64 for 500 extra that will last you significantly longer, does not need bellows, much better motor and build quality
@SpektrikMusic
@SpektrikMusic 2 жыл бұрын
500 is a lot more, it's literally 50% more than the single doser and not an option for a lot of people.
@Cenot4ph
@Cenot4ph 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpektrikMusic so you can afford 1k grinder but not a 1.5k? Ok. I find it hard to believe.
@KOTAKVISUAL
@KOTAKVISUAL 2 жыл бұрын
Ayyy first 😁🤙
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Legend!
@alexandroskalogridis8693
@alexandroskalogridis8693 2 жыл бұрын
When they will become a respectful company, I might consider buying their products. Their initial dispatch date was 1st week of October 2021. And they still are not able to respect any of the 10 extensions. And of course do not reply to anything.
@AlternativeBrewing
@AlternativeBrewing 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alexandros, thanks for reaching out to us. Is this in regards to the Eureka or another product? AS ETA on the Eureka's has been consistently delayed and the release dates are unfortunately never on-time. We use the estimate that the manufacturer provides us and update this as often as possible to maintain transparency. Please send in your queries to the email orders@alternativebrewing.com.au and our team there can help you out. Alternatively, if there's a question I can reply to here, I'm more than happy to help where I can 😀
@alexandroskalogridis8693
@alexandroskalogridis8693 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlternativeBrewing Hi, my comment was on this specific product. You are asking your followers to pre-order… this is why I wrote. And the most frustrating thing with Eureka is that you write to them and they don’t reply. Good luck to whoever pre-orders. I bought a niche zero for me and made a gift of a DF64…
@thomasjessen
@thomasjessen 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Italy. Bus trip, car delivery or coffee grinder. They live on a another planet timevise.
@tristraaf
@tristraaf 2 жыл бұрын
Get a DF64 for wayyyyy cheaper
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