Euro League - Chovy vs Knight. TL embarrass Fnatic! G2 vs T1 Review. BLG vs T1 feat.Nymaera

[@RichsWrath]

Who's had a better career so far, Chovy or Knight?

[@rappelzrevival720]

Has knight ever won an international tournment? If so, then knight. I would say caps > chovy career wise

[@daandepauw5252]

⁠@@rappelzrevival720Knight won last msi. Imo of all the midlaners left at msi career wise Faker (obviously xD) > Caps: msi title + multiple domestic titles + back to back world finals as western midlaner. > Knight: much harder msi title and multiple LPL titles but only semifinal at worlds at best with much better teammates. (arguably over caps tho) > Chovy: the best player in the world for a while and multiple LCK titles but can’t convert it to an international title > Creme: Rly good player and still young and time to grow but achievements wise hasn’t rly won anything yet, but can’t rly put him under YAPA. Second in LPL is also much harder than winning LCS. > YAPA (obviously)

[@lemonfanta7176]

knight easily

[@jaekenzo64]

​@@daandepauw5252 what makes chovy the best player in the world if he cannot replicate it on the international side. Possibly a more apt title is that he is one of the best mids in the world, but right now. Currently Knight has his number.

[@Casualplayer1306]

​@@daandepauw5252Chovy won Asian game though. I dont know people rate msi higher than Gold medal for country.

[@martinschanda5498]

This has become my favorite lol podcast and I have watched them all for years. Great episode

[@Savaris96]

I am 100% sure that between the 10 players of G2 vs T1, noone left the stage happy, T1 because they knew they barely escaped getting slaughtered and G2 because they knew they fucked up what could have been a 3:0 potentially

[@evilkingster]

T1 played so bad and still got out of that mess so yea g3 defiantly.kicki g themselves tho it would of done them no good they will of been murdered by blg and T1 will of gotten a nice rebound series vs PSG

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

​@@evilkingsteru act like g2 played at their best game 4 and game 5 go smoke your copium somewhere else or you are thelight v2 ???

[@Finkaisar]

​@@evilkingsterHere is a couple of "...,,,,,," remember to use them if you run out of yours.

[@Keire157]

​@@Finkaisar😂😂😂 hahahhahahaha

[@RumandCocaine]

Half a way and i've had 27 ads, thanks youtube, real mvp

[@MangoMeoww]

Yes there are a bit too many ads...

[@dongolio]

Gardening and listening to Euroleague. This is heaven.

[@THEkullerpuller]

On they point about having another competitive roster in EU. I would love a podcast with Rich, Dom, Romain and maybe Yamato on how to construct a good roster, what their priorities are and how EU teams could improve in the coming seasons with the talent in the league. Like swapping Photon and Wunder, Carzzy going to G2 or Fnatic or Bo going to Vit and so on. That would be great insight and maybe kill some of the overhyping of poorly constructed 'superteams' we have every year.

[@LK2909]

I really like this kind of episodes, deep diving into G2 vs T1. Adds alot of what to look for with a deeper understanding in draft and on the rift! Not just looking at map state and gold but how they got there.

[@AlexNymaeraHapgood]

I could spend ages just on the game 5 level 1 play, so many implications even in just that one moment of the series.

[@Keire157]

I definitely wanna do more deep dives with nym like we did with jdg Vs BLG will ask him too see if we can pick out some key MSI games and do them together.

[@AlexNymaeraHapgood]

@@Keire157 I'm down, I can grab replay files for a few games

[@MrDespisedIcon]

Probably your best episode yet 👍🏻

[@Terpex]

I'm Finnish so I always experience both options of this would-you-rather question 💀 Winter days or Summer nights...I would pick Summer nights

[@acatwithwiskers9273]

Finlandia moment

[@Cypriot108]

Even though I like TOP as well as an EU fan I am glad that the result Rich hoped for came true rather than his prediction lol

[@zachboost6137]

25 minute intro club assemble!

[@dirtydard4870]

Waste of time

[@voyager1175]

Didn't even watch it yet but is Keire in shambles after Caps fisted his beloved Eastern mid laners? He is legit the best performing mid maybe except Chovy in tournament. That game 1 against PSG no mid laner is ever carrying that game A Zac that dies in lane to Ksante A jungle who can't smite for 5 seconds No Hands Sama Randomly inting poppy That Caps buffer in top laner with Tristana was legendary. We know it is not an accident since he tilted a Vi last year 3 times in the same game with same strat

[@Snootz86]

Doubt they give much credit.. these guys were saying he was washed about one week into lec this year

[@thernton1386]

bro keirs in your fucking head hahahahah

[@Keire157]

I think he was great vs psg and was mid vs t1 but great at lanning vs faker

[@daandepauw5252]

I literally skip ahead every time Keire opens his mouth. The worst takes imaginable and can’t even understand half the shit this guy is trying to say.

[@callmeshen9754]

For some reasons certain analysts will never give Caps applause. If Chovy makes the outplay we saw against PSG and the solo kills against Faker we all know for certain the whole community would scream his name like a baby bieber. Kinda stupid and undeserved for what Caps manage to do to keep that form in a shitty league in EU. Insane for any sport to keep top lvl when playing against minions in EU.

[@trevorsanso32]

Hot take: TES are a bigger threat to BLG than GenG

[@sudarshansai3239]

Nahh t1 is not tes

[@starvinmarvin1304]

banger intro!

[@TonyLee-fm2fy]

Wow TL really played good against FNC APA and Yeon showed some great improvements Sure T1 is going to stomp them, but it’s great to see players when they are obviously getting better and the team is gelling

[@fomatic4688]

best league pod by a mile

[@upstreamboogie6915]

Agreed! chill, funny, fair and insightful. Great podcast.

[@Nordickaiser]

Really enjoyed the i want to eat your pancreas discussion. Would recommend you watch a silent voice

[@RichsWrath]

It's on the list!

[@AlexNymaeraHapgood]

Watched it a while ago and really enjoyed it, would be down to see how Rich somehow find a way to hate it!

[@stringerbell69]

love this podcast

[@esoncabalde5442]

The celling for GENG is higher compared to BLG IMO. Game 1 and 2 vs BLG showed it they just need to clean it up. Something that i observed when GENG is backed into a corner is that coach Kim let them pick for comfort.

[@StaringEemil]

Imagine going for a run when you can't really be skipping any parts without stopping and getting stuck listening 20 minutes of anime review. The constant thinking of it must be ending soon no need to stop the run, but it goes on and on.

[@RichsWrath]

As God intended.

[@whaarp]

Struggling with the ads every 5 min Good episode tho, thanks

[@micahhh310]

Thank god someone said it. My friend made me watch that movie and it was mid af

[@esoncabalde5442]

Hey Keire157 i keep hearing that GENG bot lane is weak but they came out okay last game?

[@Keire157]

they did but canyons playing for them on a lot of waves states. There a lot better rn than I expected ngl, lehends playing well really helps, he's really tightened his game up outside tes g3 g4

[@SwayNoir]

Why are they saying things like "chovy can't die" like gen.g falls apart without him? Hes vastly their most important player of course but did you guys all happen to miss when Chovy got caught in G5 vs TES and Geng won a 4v5 at the baron without him? Of course its super bad for geng if he dies but they are not incapable in team fights without him. He was taken out of action early in multiple drake fights and still the rest of geng carried the fight.

[@AlexNymaeraHapgood]

Not sure where we said that, but it is true that GENG rely on Chovy bringing value, we haven’t see him heavily pressured much which may affect how GENG perform.

[@gabriellps2]

@@AlexNymaeraHapgood 2:09:00 is where u guys talk about this

[@tinecchi3648]

For me hans can’t be your primary carry. That’s for sure

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

hans seem to overextend at times he need to limit that and he can be that is his main problem however i think he has 1,2 days to prepare and train a little bit to be more patient

[@voyager1175]

Humanoid good internationally narrative has gone on for so long. At best the guy looked good in random Bo1s playing for his KDA with Azir/Leblanc He has never ever been competitive in a Bo5 against a better team with Fnatic. He got utterly shit on by APA in game 3 dying as Hwei to Aurelion Sol. His ego got so hurt he banned 3/4(if you count TF as mid since Impact never plays it) mid laners. APA picked Tristana and hard carried the game again while Humanoid was a ghost in the game His only good games came in the back of LB against Creme's. Against Chovy he was sponfed 6 kills with Leblanc yet he still couldn't lane against Chovy and let him took over the game while he was hunting an underleveled Nami. Where is this narrative coming from? What does high ceiling mean for people anymore? High-ceiling is someone like Caps against PSG in game 1 where he solo carries the game when rest of the map is in shambles. Or continuously soaking pressure by enemy jungler and surviving again like Caps. It is not daddy Razork babysit me so my KDA looks good while I lose the game like Humanoid.

[@seochi]

Got on the train omw home while watching this. Why was half my commute talking about fkn anime??

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

When Keire said ohh really like he is surprised dude ur humanoid got dumpstered by yapping trash na mid laner

[@Keire157]

Why is he my humanoid, my favourite players in Europe are yike, irrelevant and Larsen. Rest I don't really have much interest outside how they play at any given period. All my fave players are in the east knight chovy kiin breathe xun ming deft viper.

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

@@Keire157 Because usually when Caps dumpster humanoid you discredit Caps in some ways and you were kinda surprised what rich said but you can't decline caps is s beast and can defeat eastern mids as 4 years ago

[@Keire157]

@@alexandernaydenov7539 why do you care if there eastern if I think player in the west are better he's beating. Like I think caps beating and lanning vs humanoid is more of an achievement than creme idc that creme is Chinese same would be said for yagao. I just don't think he's anywhere near as good at this tourney as knight and chovy but he's probs been the 3rd best mid laner. Its like S tier Chovy knight , A tier Caps B tier creme faker. I don't think that's and at all. Im just confused why people think I've been critical of caps this year cause I said during reg he was ropey and then when playoffs came round I said when caps plays well G2 cannot be beaten. Thats a massive indictment of how much wait I put onto caps level of play corelating to game wins.

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

@@Keire157 alright fair enough

[@vanidar21]

for my money, Humanoid actually didnt play well this tournament. Sure, he was in some good positions against better teams, but he also always lost these advantages by overstaying, overgreeding etc. He didnt actually play that well in sidelane and the performance against APA is inexcusable.

[@Keire157]

He was terrible Vs apa but some of the drafts where hellish. Think alot of the team had a bad day.

[@youcannotexplainthat]

Not a big fan of Caps' Taliyah in LEC either, and he sometimes does play Trist like she is a melee champ. He's been really strong on most of his other champs this past year though (Ori/Azir/LB/Hwei/Asol)

[@turnermarius4471]

Ok, silver player

[@VexOoo-x7y]

The Scottish guy still trying to be edgy.

[@iamcrazypeople6961]

TL wants to win. Just learn from blg targeting faker

[@feature8]

Humanoid and Razork aren't very good.

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

humanoid is overrated razork is hit or miss best player on fnc is jun

[@markussaaby1265]

I dont understand that you guys say that g2 drafted well vs t1 i dont get it for real the first draft is dogshit lillia jungle 0 frontline comp and kogmaw comp was dogshit g5 was good if they had a supportive jungler for jinx so wtf are we talking about they lose games for free with these shit ass drafts???? And i also predict Tes wil win against them but idont understand how u think they outdraftet t1 they litterly picked shit champs in shit spots

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

you can say that G2 just played around and decide it's fun day guys otherwise if they played game 1 like 2 and 3 was ez stomp

[@giannidavies3594]

Dude they legit won game 1 in the first 10 minutes of the game. Idc what you’re saying about the 0 frontline comp they had a huge 2k gold lead early on and if they just slowed the game down and played for objectives they legit had it won. You cannot blame draft for that game 1 loss, it was purely lost on their decision making

[@DominickRoselli]

"Razork cannot play bad" is certainly a hot take. He played prerty damn poorly the whole series vs TL...

[@vanidar21]

little sleeping men in the street is a kinda nice picture. In germany we are a bit more crude, we call speedbumps: "tote Polizisten" dead Policemen in english

[@AlexNymaeraHapgood]

Sleeping policeman’s another way we call them in the UK too, not quite dead coppers tho 💀

[@leevimasalin2301]

Plz kick Keire out of this show, he knows nothing of league, imagine saying when Caps is literally the best performing mid in the tournament by far (with Chovy ofc), that he is surprised or not believing in it like???? Is he so butthurt that the eastern mids are taking double penetration from Caps that he cant credit the player? Im in same boat with the other comment, every time Keire opens his mouth i just skip the whole part, i just cant physically listen this guy. And i know some of you from the show are hopefully reading this plz get better knowing league people like Nymaera who actually knows what they talking about. And for you who just reads the comment, Rich said "Caps looks unreal at the moment", Keire literally replays to that "ReAlLy??" with the biggest surpise face known to humans like? Yea Keire you didint watch the G2 games or like you blind suddenly?

[@riseagainstthemachine6079]

Imo Keire literally is in this show to give the crazy takes which then trigger great discussions. It is not a show with 3 "analysts". Would be extremely boring if they would just all go "yeah i agree with you".

[@podefunder]

Kerie knows far more than you lmao

[@Keire157]

Knight and chovy have been head and shoulders above caps , idk what to say. They never do the tristana game 1 or game 5 in the t1 series so close your eyes when those happen cause they are in reality. Said on the show he lane really well into faker don't know what other acknowledgment is needed. Mb you should stop skipping when I speak so you can stop typingstuff that legit makes you look retarded. "yeah ill type I skip everytime this dude speaks then ill type what I think the dudes opinion is in my mentally ill mind" This ain't your best work pal mite wanna go back to the drawing board on this one cause it was weak af.

[@litzborg]

Does anyone know what rich myanimelist profile?

[@RichsWrath]

It will be revealed at some point :))

[@phreakisop9810]

Fnatic got bodied by 2 Korean teams this MSI, Gen G and TL 😅

[@kevinadriano815]

Noah and Jun are Koreans LMAO

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

​@@kevinadriano815 bro noah is bad jun is solid razork hit and miss humanoid is something show up while i can then fall off oscar is not for pro level yet not even fnc fan just saying facts that this fnc roster don't work well