Eurofighter Missile Controversy & More Packs Coming - Datamines - War Thunder

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

Hopefully now everyone is happy with the changes to the bangers for this update. Lot's of changes the last few days and finally the VBCI is looking better

[@sebastiankillin7940]

For those who are a bit confused: The AIM-9L/I and the AIM-9L/I-1 are TWO DIFFERENT MISSILES. The L/I is found of the F-4F KWS LV, and was previously on the EF-2000 before it was replaced with the L/I-1, which featured a smokeless motor (now removed), and has been replaced with the AIM-9M.

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

Apart from the fact that the whole point of the video is that the L/I-1 isn't smokeless and everyone keeps saying that even though it's not true which is what caused the controversy. This is the whole issue.

[@The_Panda99]

Wait I’m not home rn. Are there other differences between the AIM-9L/I-1 and the AIM-9M? Other than the smoke?

[@monaro34]

@@The_Panda99 pretty sure its a 9L with a better seeker

[@niallking2762]

I think the issue with the "reload for balance" argument concerning the pzh.2000 was more to do with logic than historical accuracy. Gaijin were saying the reload was at 10 seconds for balance, which makes no sense as there are similar vehicles at similar BRs with better reloads. The Type 99 SPH sits at 7.3 with a 7.5 second reload and (on launch, this has since been fixed on the pzh) similar mobility. More pertinently, the PLZ 05 sits at the same BR of 7.7 with a 7.5 second reload AND the addition of spall liners in the turret, superior mobility (on launch) and a roof-mounted .50 cal. By all metrics, it is a better vehicle than the pzh was and yet the pzh was hamstrung by an inaccurate reload.

[@RedXlV]

There's also the fact Gaijin *heavily* advertises War Thunder on the basis of its "realism". So it's *very* legitimate for players to get angry about unrealistic reloads being used for balance. Especially since if a vehicle is too strong with its current reload, they can always just increase its BR.

[@josebarbosa5704]

They can't make it better that the vidar overwise vidar users will cry that the vehicle is too high in br for its performance and will tank sales

[@adudefrompoland579]

f111c still the same br as f111f despite it having less thrust and missing it's 750lb bombs, shoulder mounted aim9l, mavericks, tv guided bombs, outer wing pylons and propably a lot more...

[@Canadian_Ale]

I honestly don't understand why it's not 11.3

[@Truck_Company_84]

That really pisses me off. We also need to add the fuel dump feature as well… Ausies love to use that.

[@angelcod7359]

Same with the tornado F3 late, it’s 13.3 even though it’s straight trash yet the KWS that’s even better than this thing is 13.0

[@inkozebadigbadig37]

what is the br system for if we cant give tanks their accurate factual reload because "it will get nerfed" moved it up in its fucking br then what is it for ???

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

Because there are other factors to a vehicle than just reload. If you move up a vehicle based on reload especially at that BR bracket, it will run into fully stabilized vehicles that it won't be able to deal with.

[@WPope]

@@TheEuropeanCanadian that should not be a matter for SPH vehicles anyway. They perform pretty much the same at any BR

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

@@WPope Just not true unfortunately

[@PierTrevi]

@@TheEuropeanCanadian Just like the char 25t?

[@Elbereth_TV]

tertiary sources are just as good as primary ones, since the snail outright said that primary sources such as the manufacturer, the end users and secondary sources aren't believable and nerf things anyway

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

The different grades of sources are not as good as each other. That is such a wild statement

[@purgetrapscorp]

I wouldn't consider promotion materials as "primary sources".

[@Elbereth_TV]

@@TheEuropeanCanadian my point exactly, Gaijin accepts phony sources for China and russian vehicles, but first hand sources for Nato gets ignored because they dont believe it.

[@slavicgondola1817]

Is there any word on the IRST issues getting fixed with the euro fighter and other plans that are suffering from it going and messing up radar locks?

[@jackmcaulay454]

hold up, bro killed astro lmao

[@StealthySpace7]

Still no CCRP symbiology for the Mirage's or Rafale. Literally a guessing game when to drop bombs in CCRP

[@taj2332]

Why are you bombing in a rafale lmao

[@StealthySpace7]

@@taj2332 I play a lot of sim, its easy points. But the problem persists even in the Mirage 4000 too. But also the Rafale has great IR+GNSS missiles that are dropped in CCRP, it would be nice to know when to drop them

[@PaxBritannica34563]

@@taj2332 Because its literally an omni role aircraft???

[@taj2332]

@PaxBritannica34563 yeah I get that but it's like people bombing in the eurofighter going after bases and stuff it just proves you are bad

[@taj2332]

@PaxBritannica34563 but as he said he plays sim not arb so my point doesn't stand with him

[@jacknickolstine3355]

Idk bro, they consistently do stupid shit. Shit just look at the hmd's.

[@spacemane_official]

Next yeard day of bundeswehr in jagel (tornado air base) imma ask ;) cuz there will be tlwg71 (bavarian tigers) who fly since trance 1

[@solo-ch6ev]

Bro, i found out that i dont like lazer guided munition on the german eurofighter 😂did the german eurofighter use TV guided munition,🤔 if it did, i would love if the add it

[@bokoblinlogic1619]

BTW, IRL the brimstones are fire and forget, they will find their own targets to kill, you don’t even need to designate a target for it

[@Spearhead45]

sonya is a joke. all of war thunder is a joke. "we balance the game by nerfing fire rate" 2S38----- hmmm..

[@spacemane_official]

Accurate tho

[@chayanne2560]

Why the eurofighter dont have the fox 3 meteor?

[@spongegobler3449]

This is the first EF model, it doesn’t use meteors. I don’t think we’ll meteors until the 3rd model

[@StanRichmond]

Because they’re too good

[@StanRichmond]

@@spongegobler3449in game they say they’re T.2 block 10 but in reality they’re block 15 due to all of them carrying brimstones, not just the FGR.4

[@ravvsm]

I just hope the new pack isn’t Chinese💀

[@Prisoner4245]

I want Russia to get a tor m1

[@jon_3453]

Eurofighter controversy Clicks video, concerned about Absolute Chad 🇬🇧 Typhoon 🇬🇧 having a issue with one of its missiles Finds out it’s German Typhoon that has a issue

[@jeremyberke7424]

So they decide to give a missile not ANY german eurofighter carry ? Mmmh what very nasty moove can we claim a lot of stuff for other planes ? or tank ?

[@cookie6542]

I just want them to give the RDF/LT THE RIGHT RELOAD SPEED

[@cookie6542]

Oh, I forgot, give it the correct armor too please, It's my favorite tank and I would buy it if it were correct

[@storm9345]

They did update the reload speed on the TT and premium now.

[@TrxpChris_]

European Canadian is the Joe Rogan of war thunder💯

[@nickduplaga507]

Russia got 6 fire and forget anti ground. They said those missiles are overpowered. All Eurofighter jets are missing fire and forget. Germany still needs 4 IR HE missiles for balance and they received 0. Russia still has 6. Germany and Italy still only have 1 leopard with spall liner and good top hull armor, and France has 0. Those countries need a respawn MBT with spall liner and top hull armor. A quick fix is historically buffing leopard 2a6 with 600mm kinetic hull armor and spall liners. Remove it from Sweden and add it to Italy. Sweden has 3 leopards with spall liner and front armor plus 4 TV HE missile jet. Russian heli spaa and cas jets are overpowered. USA is getting buffed, and it’s easy to balance buff Italy Germany France and Sweden all with just buffing 2a6 and moving it from Sweden to Italy.

[@RiflesGunner]

I swear, War Thunder has the worst community of any game today

[@dw7065]

I wish they would just give the Chappy its smokeless missile back already