Europe's Forgotten Dictator

[@alsatusmd1A13]

In general, Portugal is sort of the “forgotten” part of Europe, even for all the colonies it had.

[@PeakPeakPeakPeakPeak]

Sadly kinda true

[@benjaminobienu5297]

@@PeakPeakPeakPeakPeak Yeah it is because Portgual is kind of a small country and I don't why Spain just annex it since it a small country.

[@GandalftheWise]

@@benjaminobienu5297 they tried but many Spaniards were killed by the Portuguese man of war jellyfish

[@benjaminobienu5297]

@@GandalftheWise By actual jellyfishes? That is what stop the Spaniards from conquering Portugal? I never jellyfishes save Portgual from being invaded Spain. How knew but is jellyfishes or warship name the Portuguese jellyfish? Am I wrong? Was it actually jellyfish, or is it warships? But thanks for that little reminder, for it helps a lot now, and I didn't know Portugal was saved by jellyfishes from Spain.

[@GandalftheWise]

@@benjaminobienu5297 yep look up man of war jellyfish and look how deadly they are

[@shadowmatt6928]

Another reason why Salazar was forgotten was in large part he didnt like being in the public spotlight. He wasnt charismatic like Franco was, and was quite shy in comparison. That and the Spanish civil war was a huge geo political moment in history so much so that foriegn nations were watching it closely. Good vid btw.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

He did go out a bit initially, going to Mass and meeting folks around his house but then there was an assassination attempt. I think it was like a decade maybe later until he came out, with rumours of marriage as he met a lady and he had always said marriage and rule was incompatible. It fell through although I think he adopted two girls.

[@DiogoGaming2]

And we are happy that he was, 25th of april forever

[@staygolden9264]

mainly forgotten because the modern education system doesnt allow GOOD dictators to be Recognized. Unless theres oil there of course.

[@Ussonan-Foderation2016]

Made this 420 likes

[@ivanbarbosa81]

He didn't? Why was his picture all over the place? Ele não tinha dinheiro porque a cena dele era o poder

[@janicerich4937]

An interesting fact about Salazar that everyone should know is that he is perhaps the only dictator (in modern history at least) that died poor. That's unreal to me. He was in power for 36 years, that's the better part of half of a century, and he never once in that time abused his power to enrich himself, he never fell into the temptation. When he was in his deathbed the government had to pay for his medicine because his bank account was nearly empty. Another fun fact, in the early 2000's there was a Portuguese TV show to vote on who was the greatest Portuguese of all time, and Salazar won.

[@brunods4560]

You forget to mention the fact he wasn't poor, really. He didn't even come from poor background either. Also forget to mention that salazar indulge in lobbying, favores, jobs for the boys, used state means for his own benefits, was corruption in many documeted ways, brake the laws himself made, etc... The only thing people can say about salazar is that he didn't Enrico himself by being a dictator. But then again, neither do most politician. As that would be a crime.

[@janicerich4937]

@@brunods4560 That's just blatantly false? Salazar by all accounts was born into a modest income family in the late 1800s, he wasn't rich by any means, and all your other claims seem to be nothing more than unsubstantiated charges, but if you can provide me with some proof or sources to them I'll be more than happy to read into it. And lol, what do you mean most politicians don't make themselves rich? LITERALLY the 3 last prime ministers of Portugal (Antonio Costa, Passos Coelho, and José Socrates) are ALL involved in corruption and money laundering scandals.

[@DarkSoulSama]

I'd like to note that despite 1974's Portugal being very rich "as a country", most of that money was being spent on the Colonial War, or otherwise not being invested in ways that improved the lives of the general population.

[@brunods4560]

Portugal wasn't rich by any measure. It was a very backwards country in just about everything, "owned " by a dozen families, and with bo real distribution of wealth

[@SemoreButtsFucker]

Like the USA today

[@aaronTGP_3756]

Salazar woke up after a month and regained his lucidity. This was after he was removed from power. Instead of tell him the truth, his former inner circle pretended Salazar was still Prime Minister, and convinced him to stay in his room to "rule" in private. So when Salazar approached death, he still thought he was in charge.

[@br3menPT]

he knew that he was not ruling the country anymore....

[@aaronTGP_3756]

@@br3menPT How would he know ifhe was shut in his home and was never told about his removal?

[@br3menPT]

@@aaronTGP_3756 precisely for that. He no longer had his usual routines...meetings with ministers. Status of the war in the overseas provinces..

[@almounasaddiyeh8685]

oh! what a plot, incredible indeed, thanks for sharing.

[@ak43darkhell]

​@@br3menPTwhat I heard he was not the guy that used to be in the spotlight regardless

[@llewcunedda4528]

Salazar Slytherin from Harry Potter was named after him. Rowling lived in Portugal teaching English for quite some time.

[@eaturcookiescookie7462]

Damn, all the members of Chega! Will be joining slytherin in the new Harry Potter game 😳

[@miguelpadeiro762]

​@@eaturcookiescookie7462 They began boycotting Slytherin when it started accepting gypsies/roma in the house😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@eaturcookiescookie7462]

@@miguelpadeiro762 thinks a classified Chega! Classic

[@okapa]

Who the f cares.

[@urielcosta5003]

Also Hogwarts uniforms are inspired by portuguese academic uniforms

[@aquila4228]

Just one small thing about Brazil. The monarchy didn’t fell because of the death of the emperor, him and his family were deposed and exiled after the abolition of slavery(something they strongly gave their support to help happen). Pedro II died two years later in 1891, in Paris, where he had a head of state’s funeral

[@DarthFhenix55]

Just to clarify, they support both the abolition and the abdication.

[@carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977]

​@@DarthFhenix55 ?

[@qe9573]

Yall brazilians always gotta bring up brazil in any video about portugal its incredible

[@lucasithegreat2711]

The abolition of slavery was more of a secundary reason for the fall of the monarchy. It was the military class and the urban sectors of the society that came together in opposition of the monarchical regime. The military because they felt that the political class of the Empire was repressing the army, and the urban sectors because they felt the country was lagging behind due to corruption and economic stagnation. So they rallied under the republican movement that was gaining ground since 1870 and by the very end of the 1880's they deposed the monarchy in rushed coup d'état that ended working perfectly, and so the Republic was officially proclaimed in the City Hall of Rio de Janeiro in the evening of 15th of November 1889. The wealthy rural oligarchy who was more affected by the abolition of slavery and was discontent with the monarchy only joined against the regime at the very end and didn't have major effect in the outcome of the ousting of the monarchy. They will however, have an important role in the country's government in the first years of the Republic tho.

[@dinamosflams]

​@@qe9573 it's a minor correction since this myatake is very easy to make

[@wolfgang6517]

Salazar was a product of the Portuguese First Republic more than anything. His entire ideology (and even the way he ran the Estado Novo) was a reflection of his personal experience in the 1st Republic. I think that most people forget that aspect when analyzing him and his views.

[@familygash7500]

*THE PORTUGUESE PEOPLE IN 1910:* How dare you give up our colonies! REVOLUTION! *THE PORTUGUESE PEOPLE IN 1974:* Stop holding onto our colonies! REVOLUTION!

[@soweco2969]

I didn't even notice that 💀

[@lxportugal9343]

Colonies were a waste of money Our job was done, it was time to let go.

[@DarthFhenix55]

@@lxportugal9343 Also capitalism changed the way of trading goods, you didn't need to have colonist to get uncommon prime matters or even made products anymore.

[@lxportugal9343]

@@DarthFhenix55 They became Christians There was no need to colonize anymore

[@DarthFhenix55]

@@lxportugal9343 I didn't say otherwise, but making christians wasn't the main point of making colonies. It was trade.

[@srkgp7754]

It's sad how Portugal has such a beautiful history yet it's always forgotten

[@lxportugal9343]

Let's keep it that way we like to stay under the radar 😄

[@manuelcardoso3205]

Slava Ukraini, march to moscow

[@lusitaniagov]

​@@manuelcardoso3205 nope from🇵🇹

[@retivens925]

Much alike russians, we do not like foreigners to interfere in our affaires.

[@Anonymous-py1sf]

The portuguese don't care, lmao, they are tired of both immigrants and tourists 😂😂

[@nelsonchereta816]

Portuguese-American, my parents immigrated to the US in 1969. They were both devout Catholics and thought Salazar a good man and a good president. He's not forgotten in Portugal and so far as I can tell from the older generation of my family he is remembered fondly. Certainly better than Franco.

[@cristinadasilva8470]

I wonder then why your family left Portugal, because the great emigration during that time was because people were poor and suffering under this fascist rule. He is NOT remembered fondly here, and there was a revolution for a reason. April 25th is still celebrated to this day so that people do not forget the horrors of fascism. Never again. I promise, he is not remembered fondly here, except by far right fascist groups.

[@miguelribeiro7502]

@@cristinadasilva8470well, back in 2007 there was a tv program to choose the greatest portuguese ever. I can say Salazar won with more than 40% of votes. And he wasn’t originally in the list of people you could vote for, but after some polemic they were forced to ad him. So, yeah, whether you like it or not, a lot of people still see him fondly.

[@Argonhubert]

⁠@@cristinadasilva8470was he really fascist though? It doesn’t seem he was under fascist ideology (like Giovanni Gentle or Mussolini philosophy)

[@Argonhubert]

@@cristinadasilva8470seems like a regular dictator.

[@mrnoide8027]

@@cristinadasilva8470 Mentira. Tens de aprender história minha querida. No início Salazar do governo de Salazar, ele aumentou drasticamente a economia e melhorou imenso a vidas dos portugueses. Salazar aumentou as reservas de ouro em Portugal e quando ele foi colocado no poder a vida das pessoas melhorou imenso. No entanto, a guerra colonial arruinou tudo. Salazar despejou montes de dinheiro na guerra colonial para não perder as colónias. Ele fez isso porque se perdêssemos as colónias, tudo o que o regime dele defendia ia por cano abaixo. Já deves ter visto aquele cartaz antigo da época de Salazar que dizia "Portugal não é um país pequeno", e tinha um mapa com as nossas colónias a mostrar o quão grandes as mesmas eram. Se Portugal perdesse essas colónias, Portugal ia tornar-se um país pequeno e insignificante, e muito provavelmente iria acontecer o que aconteceu com a monarquia, o regime de Salazar seria destruído. Tu apenas aprendeste que o governo de Salazar foi mau porque é o que o governo diz, o que as escolas ensinam. Os desgraçados dos políticos do nosso país querem apenas ganhar dinheiro, não querem tornar Portugal num país melhor, não querem ser como Salazar, um dos poucos líderes republicanos portugueses que desejava o melhor para Portugal.

[@dudamonas2450]

9:00 Portugal was NOT a wealthy country by 1974, at the time we were (and still are) the poorest in western europe, so that part wasn’t good

[@br3menPT]

Economia crescia cima dos 6% e Portugal passou de estar a 39% da media de riqueza da europa para estar a 59%. As mehorias eram expressivas. O país tinha consolidação orçamental, economia crescia, divida representava 12% do PIB moeda era a 6º mais forte do mundo e as reservas em divisa nacional, moeda estrangeira e oura eram enormes.

[@lukegriffin2042]

​@@br3menPT ya safoda a guerra na África e os milhares de putos que foram para lá lutar em vão, safoda os milhares de trabalhadores agrícolas que vivem na miséria, safoda as centenas de prisioneiros políticos e acima de tudo a cultura de medo e repressão. Pelo menos a economia estava a crescer 💪💪

[@marusdod3685]

@@lukegriffin2042 houve maior número de prisioneiros políticos depois do 25 de abril do que antes

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@marusdod3685 A sério?! Quem é que é preso político neste preciso momento? Explicita.

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@br3menPT *Economia crescia cima dos 6% e Portugal passou de estar a 39% da media de riqueza da europa para estar a 59%.* Hoje em dia Portugal está a 76% da média europeia e já chegou a estar nos 85% em 2001. Portanto o problema não é o regime mas sim a quase total persistência de governos incompetentes nos últimos 20-25 anos. É preciso também ter em conta que estamos a fazer referência a dados macroeconómicos que não eram verdadeiramente sentidos pelo povo pois grande parte do crescimento ou era gasto nos esforços da Guerra Colonial ou era perdido para as elites corruptas do regime e oligopólios. Caetano tentou mudar isso com uma espécie de "capitalismo à chinesa", mas já era tarde demais... *divida representava 12% do PIB moeda era a 6º mais forte do mundo* Normal que a dívida apenas representasse 12% do PIB quando não era feito quase nenhum investimento, tirando aquele para efeitos de propaganda. Já a moeda ser forte não é verdadeiramente um argumento pois o escudo tinha um valor claramente manipulado. Assim que as ferramentas de manipulação desapareceram em 1974 o escudo colapsou e seguiram-se anos de inflação superior a 25% que só acabariam com as reformas de Cavaco Silva na década de 1980.

[@philipdefreitas9334]

Salazar was totally dedicated to the Portuguese State. There was no foreign debt, a triple-A credit rating and virtually no inflation during his long rule. He tactfully held out against many of the bully threats from the US, never folding, even managing to hold onto a large gold reserve from exports to NS Germany during WW2. Portugal’s last true great leader RIP

[@thegoodfriend6247]

At some point, is is said that someone might have tried to "buy" Angola for 1 Bn Dollars and Salazar swiftly responded, "Portugal is not for sale". Though I am not a fan of the man I can see him answering that. When I see our leadership for the last 20 years I feel ashamed.

[@Fabiani930]

Salazar didnt want to take the Marshall Plan´s loans and was "made" to accept them. plus I´ve heard that Portugal was the only country that repaid those loans in full

[@jackprescott9652]

Nobody repaids all the fortune USA expends in support all over the world. US citizens always paids the bills.

[@MrKlipstar]

He made the FNMAL Plant In 1954 in Savavém, with Money and basiclly,he recovered the Money back in few years,making ammo to Portugal 🇵🇹 and exported to Spain and Germany,too.

[@ivanbarbosa81]

That's the reason we are so rich and developed.Visionary they say

[@Fabiani930]

@@ivanbarbosa81 yeah shitty argument. If you knew anything about your country's history you would know he was asked to be the finance minister (to get Portugal out of bankrupcy) and then was appointed Prime Minister on the political capital he gained from doing a good job. With that shitty optic of yours you could also blame every single King since the age of Discoveries lol. We should have been "so rich and developed" since those days.

[@brunorezendecrescencio9743]

2:38 Actually, in Brazil, Pedro was first deposed in 1889 by a military coup and then died in exhile in France in 1891; just a little correction

[@lourencopedro1]

I am portuguese and actually from Santa Comba Dão - Salazar's birthplace - and I can asure you here nobody forgot about him.

[@itneverbegan738]

estes estrangeiros não percebem nada, pensam que sabem tudo sobre o nosso país. Salazer "esquecido"??? LOL essa é boa. eles nunca viram o twitter tuga, esquerdalhos e direitolas a falar no homem todo o santo dia e todos os dias. ambos completamente obcecados pelo Salazarismo. é doentio.

[@lucydelgado969]

i dont think any portuguese has forgoten about him

[@JoaoMariaNunes]

even the bridge keeps unofficially his name...lol

[@Luso-Belenense]

Eai? O que o pessoal acha dele? Gosta ou odeia?

[@JoaoMariaNunes]

@@Luso-Belenense depende, os que foram perseguidos pela PIDE e enviados para o Tarrafal, não morrem de amores por ele, mas ninguem duvida que ele salvou Portugal da Banca rota causada pelos republicanos, ha quem goste e quem deteste...

[@IMWATCHING501]

Portugal and Spain not joining Germany can be considered the reason for catastrophic times we are living. If Europeans don't unite and rise, humanity might be facing total extinction and I'm not exaggerating.

[@luizeventos6414]

2:38 Dom Pedro II was deposed and died in Paris, the empire did not fell because of his death

[@martimhenriques1169]

You forgot to mention that, although Portugal maintained it's "neutrality" during world war two, Portugal was selling tungsten to Germany for the production of ammo, and allowed Portuguese volunteers to enrole into the Spanish Blue Division, fighting for the German Army. In the other hand, Salazar gave permission to the British to build an air base in the Azores Islands, which was then granted to the Americans.

[@nelsonchereta816]

Well, when you're a small militarily weak country in the middle of WW2 (Sweden, Switzerland, Spain) If you want to not get invaded you need to keep both sides happy. Or at the very least not make either one too upset with you. The Germans had a plan to take over Portugal, Operation Isabella. And the US and British considered occupying the Azores the way they did Iceland.

[@camloff]

Salazar is a poor businessman with the powerful ones: Germany, Spain, British, and USA.

[@wallybonejengles5595]

He also allowed over a million people to flee the Reich Occupied Europe through Lisbon. Right under the noses of Allied AND Axis intelligence. He did as much as he could for the greater good while walking on a tightrope and not showing his hand. He was a simple man. Thats what I think makes him such an interesting figure in Portuguese History. He was the last person you would ever assume would rise to leadership. He just fell into it. He didn't want glory. He didn't want power. But when he fell into it he was afraid to lose it before Portugal was ready. The Cold War era and colonial wars really put an asterisk next to his name. But I will always appreciate the part Dr. Salazar played for humanity. He wasn't a hero. He wasn't a villain either. He was a just a man. A man who loved his people, his nation, and his God.

[@hubertusvenator5838]

This "forgotten dictator" was recently voted by the Portuguese as the greatest Portuguese of all time.

[@CarlosCostaX]

😂

[@friedrichbaeker]

forgotten outside of portugal he said...

[@joaotomas9430]

Funny that they held that poll again years later and who won was Mário Soares, founder of the socialist party and the number one enemy of Mr.Salazar

[@ExtremegamerMonster]

what? which portuguese voted for that? our ultra right wing party? because everyone else hates him.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

The Portuguese version of Éamon De Valera bar the non authoritarianism

[@theplutonimus]

I thought it was about Salazar Edit : It was

[@theplutonimus]

I am very interested in Forgotten Authoritarians

[@FrancescusLover]

I met a relative of Salazar, i speaked with him about how Salazar was with his close circle: Very loved especially from the youngs, and he loved nature(REALLY, he apparently loved it so much that he spend hours walking in the forest just looking at it) and yeah he was a cool guy to be around :)

[@ivanbarbosa81]

Sounds delightful.wonder why half the people hated him

[@FrancescusLover]

@@ivanbarbosa81 Communists hated him, but i won't call them people. The average men, like my father or grandfather were big supporter of him. even decades after the end of the Estado Novo.

[@josejoseph493]

Salazar is not , at all, forgotten In Portugal, the mass media still blames him for everything. If it rains or it doesn't, it's always Salazar's fault For me, Salazar is greatest Portuguese of all time . God rest his soul

[@medicbn9443]

for me too dude for me too sure he did good things and bad things but we gave us stability when we need it most

[@miguelpadeiro762]

​@@medicbn9443 Alongside sending a generation to the meatgrinder and creating a Portugal split in two worlds The "mass media blames even rain on Salazar" is a massive victimization here, never have I ever this lol, at most we still glorify his image as the calm mediator and guardian of Portugal. He sure kept his enemies very safe as their guardian in Tarrafal

[@di4mgaming115]

nao valeu a pena. pq impedir a liberdade de expressao? algo inutil que ele fez. para mim ele é mais um escumalha autoritario. ele so gastou o dinheiro em infra-estrutura e a população continuou pobre. nada melhorou

[@hubertusvenator5838]

The mass media are the mess media.

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@miguelpadeiro762 Considering what happened to Portugal's former colonies, I can understand why he fought. India is now a pagan hellhole with Modi persecuting Muslims and Christians. African nations right now are unstable as all hell.

[@emperorpaws8447]

I'm portuguese and i've heard stories of my parents growing up during salazar's regime, they remember mostly the stuff from the late 60's and early 70's when they were teens and kids the stuff salazar did to people was presecution of communists and communist sympathizers, we had a special police force similar to germany's gestapo called PIDE, this was the republican police, they'd interrogate and torture people with no sleep torture to many ppl they deemed an enemy of the state. My parents were kids and neither did their parents ever had to go through this, but older ppl they know did.

[@Fives-wk4dl]

Sounds based

[@xXEatYourDogXx]

My great grandfather fought against Salazar's regime as a rebel. He was later imprisoned and somehow managed to get out of prison.

[@JoRdi-ul4xg]

@@Fives-wk4dl unbased*

[@JdC.S.R.S.d.E]

We need Salazar 2.0 in Portugal.Put everyone to work. Quem nao trabalha nao come.

[@JoRdi-ul4xg]

@@JdC.S.R.S.d.E waa waa

[@xXpl0ziVx]

You forgot to mention the political priosioners, the famine that ravage the poorer regions of portugal (like alentejo), the thousands that were drafted and sent to die in the colonies, the political police which killed and tortured anyone who opposed the regime, the censorship installed in Portugal during that time. The revolution in 1974 was supported by the people and the military in such a way that only 1 dead was reported during the whole day of revolution (25 of april 1974).

[@crusader2112]

To anyone interested, look up Catholic Corporatism and “Distributism”. (Not in the Socialist way) VIVA LA CHRISTO REI!!! 🙏🏻 Can you do a video on Franco?

[@JoshSullivanHistory]

I could, but as of right now I'm trying to think of a video that I could make that isn't just another biography.

[@crusader2112]

@@JoshSullivanHistory Okay thanks. Peace ✌🏻

[@johnnotrealname8168]

I think sadly Salazar's regime is a bad example of either. He failed to even churn out much of a theory on Corporatism.

[@crusader2112]

@@johnnotrealname8168 Perhaps. I don’t know too much about Salazar’s Portugal.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@crusader2112 It mostly favoured employers and he did not manage to break up Southern Land-Owners who helped him into power. Salazar honestly just had a hard time keeping the country together.

[@FBWe]

So in sum, if some country were to have a dictator, Salazar would be the best choice. It's rare to see a dictator who actually cared for his country and that actually did some good

[@williamwatitwa3534]

Not hard Gaddafi did much more

[@user-cx9nc4pj8w]

south korea actually had an economic miracle, I'd rather live there

[@Icneumone7]

Salazar was never a dictator. His party was dictatorial. Salazar was a statesperson, one of the best in the world ever. He was forced to cooperate under risk of death. This is a man who lived with his mother until late in his life, he publicly admitted to eat bean soup every day a fact that funnily got proved. He was a very humble and intelligent man that sadly had no choice but to cooperate with the authoritarian party. He came on the cover of time magazine as one of the greatest statespersons ever. Not an easy feat. He alone decides the outcome of the second world war by declaring neutrality and not forcing Franco to join the axis powers. Had Portugal been in the war, Franco would have joined the axis powers early on and the story would have been much different. But he still did show support to the allied forces, as Portuguese people starved to provide grain and hemp and wood and many other resources for the allied military, mainly Britain and France.

[@Icneumone7]

​@@user-cx9nc4pj8wThat miracle is called American capitalism. See how Americanised their society become. And they hate it.

[@FBWe]

@@Icneumone7 I'm aware of all that but Salazar was still a dictator. Being the head of a dictatorial party makes him a dictator wether he wants ot or not.

[@IronMar1O]

I mean, Salazar was even with Franco in terms of years in rule. Like if we say that Salazar rose to power in 1932 until 1968, that would be 36 years. Meanwhile in Spain, Franco managed to win the war in the year 1939 and rule until his death at 1975, and that would also be 36 years. Pd: if you are thinking “but Salazar’s regime still lasted before Salazar’s death at 1970” Then we should also be able to count the years of leadership of Franco during the civil war an so would be more or less equal again.

[@leofranz9720]

Well, Salazar was in power before 1932. It was from 1928-1968, 40 years, and the regime lasted another 6 years.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

This has some historical problems, Salazar was not as Pro-Church as you put it although generally correct (His marriage policy did work.). Manuel II was good including trying for an alliance with socialists but that went bad. The First Republic was horrible. Salazar managed to create a Civilian led government in a military dictatorship (Seriously, the military had to overthrown the government in the end.) which shows how adroit a politician he was. His Colonial policy was the issue, he did exploit the people horribly when he could have liberated them before any Wars (That is his failure.).

[@jackyex]

Honestly if Salazar had just gave independence to Guinea he would probably manage to keep the rest of the colonies all the way to the end of the cold war, Amílcar Cabral and the PAIG were extremely good at fighting, controlling most of Guinea with ease, Guinea was small and had not much value but their leaders knew how to lead and turned Guinea into a Portuguese Army Meat Grinder Spinola wrote "Portugal e o Futuro" based on his fighting in Guinea, Amílcar Cabral put the Portuguese Army to shame there.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@jackyex True, then he was kicked out after the War and fled to Portugal. It then devolved into Civil War (After they massacred a couple African collaborators.). Very nice.

[@ac0pt]

Funny how Salazar is now Viewed by many leaders as a source of learning, he will be recognised in history as a good dictator, but still as a dictator. Sad to see how many Portuguese still disdain is achievements.

[@lisboah]

Did you really expect that a regime would praise the previous one? Not saying that the dictatorship was good, but how would it make sense for the democratic government to praise a dictator?

[@ivanbarbosa81]

He was gods sent angel.. fallen angel

[@yugo1690]

Of all the cold war regimes in Europe I read about the Estado Novo the most. It’s the most interesting for me

[@johnnotrealname8168]

Same actually. Still waiting for Green Tea with D Man to release the Colonial War videos.

[@br3menPT]

maybe its because Salazar had a much higher intellectual preparation than Franco or Mussolini or Hitler...

[@ivanbarbosa81]

Very interesting, similar to Franco.Nothing better if you're into spying and torture

[@alejandrop.s.3942]

Miguel Primo de Rivera is also really overlooked, and the historical background for his arrival to the dictatorship has more in common with Salazar and Mussolini's than Franco's in many regards.

[@ivanbarbosa81]

Omg

[@amazingvidguyz]

This painted a rosy picture about the dictator and should be taken with a pinch of salt. I have discussed this with the people who lived during the time, my basic understanding is that normal people outside of the ruling class were poor and hungry. This was the experience of the masses, not the minority. Santa Comba Dao is in my locality

[@johnnotrealname8168]

This is true however Portugal had always been poor, he was trying slowly, and so stably, to let it go up. The Portuguese economy was growing under him (It had an outdated railway and poor industry.), Salazar was known for frugality which is still born out. He largely was secluded after an assassination attempt but did return after meeting a lady (Nothing happened though.).

[@dogex2673]

yeah lmao, not even potuguese but i can notice this vid was biased af

[@br3menPT]

@@dogex2673 of course....if its no to talk shit about him its biased for sure.....lol

[@12_yeslol12_]

@@johnnotrealname8168 his rule was a disaster, his isolationist policies kept us from developing and set us back decades compared to the rest of europe. We still suffer the consequences today.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@12_yeslol12_ His isolationist policies ended in the 1960s by which time Portugal had not taken a foreign loan for decades. It was stagnant but subsequently the economy rapidly grew with levels comparable to Asian nations. It was definitely backwards however that is not really his fault given where Portugal started under his rule.

[@satyakisil9711]

Pretty sure 1.4 billion people from a certain country has not forgotten him at all.

[@migueldiogo8395]

Why?

[@satyakisil9711]

@@migueldiogo8395 because vindaloo.

[@migueldiogo8395]

@@satyakisil9711 ahhh ahahhaha Yes in my opinion we have the best cuisine in the world, simply because we can cook everything our own way and make it good

[@franciscopereira2993]

@@satyakisil9711 Ohh I was expecting it to be bcs of resistance to give up colonies of índia but i´m glad to be bcs of that dish you guys apparently enjoy. Much love to india!

[@MrKlipstar]

Who can' t forget out Hindustani Friends In Goa,Daman,Diu and Dadar Haveli from the former Portuguese State of Índia ?🇵🇹💔

[@hubertusvenator5838]

One escudo bought two pesetas. Twenty five escudos bought one US dollar. The country was as pristine as Finland. It was a paradise for sport hunting and fishing. The region of Cascais, Estoril, and Sintra, was comparable to the Côte d'Azur. Lisbon was one of the civilised continent's leading cultural capitals. And then democracy happened. As for rights, democracy did away with the right to own firearms. In compensation, the Portuguese now have the right to be homos and to use drugs. They're also governed by a supra-state. So much for democracy! It even requires confiscatory taxation.

[@CarlosCostaX]

But you had censorship (by the way, how can you have a leading capital culture wise if most of the literature, cinema, music and so on was banned?) political police, torture, concentration camps, no freedom of speech, no freedom of assembly... But yeah, fishing was great 😂

[@hubertusvenator5838]

@@CarlosCostaX Compare the main opera company, São Carlos, as it operates nowadays with that of the Estado Novo era. As for censorship, why is it that Salazar's censorship was wrong, but that of the bien-pensants is kosher? Try using words that the bien-pensants don't like, or criticising protected groups, or simply stating inconvenient facts, online, or in Britain, or in France, or in Germany. But, then again, that's kosher censorship, isn't it? Aren't the FBI, the NSA, the CIA, Scotland Yard, and the RCMP, political polices? In America, even the IRS is political, not to mention the prosecutors, the judges, the schools, the universities, and the businesses. In America and in Britain, one could become unemployed for being politically incorrect. Don't the EU and the UN advocate censorship? Singing Cara al Sol in Madrid nowadays incurs a €350 K fine. As for torture, isn't that what the Americans deem enhanced interrogation? As for concentration camps, the Americans deem them internment camps. This is what the smart cities are all about. Freedom of assembly in Canada incurs confiscated bank accounts, confiscated automobiles, and even confiscated dogs. In France, it results in bludgeoning with truncheons and in gassing. If the EU and the UN have their way, combustion engine automobiles will be banned. The roar of a Ferrari's V 12 engine will be available only on KZbin. Isn't progressivism wonderful?

[@hubertusvenator5838]

@@CarlosCostaX Hunting and tauromachy are censored online. The garbage that misgoverns Portugal wants to abolish them.

[@hubertusvenator5838]

@@CarlosCostaX Doesn't Portugal have a political police nowadays? It's function is to keep tabs on right-wingers. It coordinates its activities with other polices and with prosecutors. But, then again, its function is to intimidate and to persecute right-wingers. It's a kosher political police. The progressive Portugal invented hate crimes and hate speech. Somewhere, Salazar must be laughing.

[@CarlosCostaX]

@@hubertusvenator5838 as we used to say here, you are comparing shit with custard tarts. I don't have a clue what you are talking about man.

[@spider-menace1978]

You didn’t talk about PIDE

[@hubertusvenator5838]

Nowadays, Portugal is known essentially for being the country of Cristiano Ronaldo and of José Mourinho.

[@ISCARI0T]

No

[@greenbrown7776]

Rather warm and fuzzy assessment of a dictator.

[@yvonetubla7682]

because he was a good guy

[@cosmicmatt1]

It’s difficult to justify considering Salazar as a “good guy” given his repression of women’s rights, suppression of freedom of speech, utilization of a secret police for torture and murder of dissenters, and the exploitative and racist policies toward colonies to bolster his own regime.

[@thegoodfriend6247]

@@yvonetubla7682 There is a famous speech of him that I consider a master piece of cynicism. It goes something along this lines: "To the tortured souls of doubt and the negativism of the age (actually he said "century", but that is within the spirit, for century means both age and materialism, as secular matters) we seek to restore the comfort of grand assurances: We Do not discuss God and virtue; We do not discuss the Fatherland and it's History; We do not Discuss authority and it's prestige; We do not discuss Family and it's morals; We do not discuss the glory of work and it's duty" To that end Salazar created two political police corps, one called PVDE, and its successor PIDE, two para-military organizations "Legião Portuguesa" and "Mocidade Portuguesa" (as Youth organizations), he abolished political parties and labor unions and forbade strike, created state-run unions under the umbrella of Federation called FNAT, he instituted censorship and political sackings at universities and civil service, he promoted the creation of a Propaganda Department and Cinema was instrumentalized to rally the nation. You might not consider Salazar's ideas to be pure fascism. You're right, they weren't. But as far as methods go, Salazar was completely fascist. And even the Roman right-arm gesture was common in the 1930's. Not by any chance he held a signed picture of Mussolini on his desk. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6aQpKmbl62YnM0

[@Bonanca_27]

How does this sound like a compliment to Salazar He was a dictator. The benefits you claim are very inflanted and completly miss the oppression suffered by the portuguese people. (PIDE, sending 18 year old to africa to fight, etc) Not to say that portugal at time of the revolucion was stuck in a sociaty of the 30s With barely any modern industry, slums in the capital etc Next time be more careful in portraing the "good" side of a dictator He is considered a dictator for a reason And there was a revolution for a reason

[@wolfgang6517]

Revolução de cobardes que nao queriam cumprir o dever lmao

[@Mpl3564]

Perfect.

[@redsoup2584]

He became a dictator for a reason too.

[@rogerhardy6306]

You might have added that Salazar was always personally frugal and never enriched himself whilst in power. He lived modestly and died poor. He was never corrupted by power. Many remember him fondly as a good well-intentioned man but others will point to the notorious secret police PIDE which brutally enforced the authoritarian rule. Unlike all other European dictators, he was not a military man and had no military background. He was an economist. He will always be remembered for keeping Portugal (and Spain) out of WW2 and the statue of Christ that looks over Lisbon was erected to celebrate this fact. I hope that his record will one day be re-examined favourably by future generations.

[@okapa]

Poor Salazar :'( Mate, please educate yourself. Entre nós, tugas, vai pro caralho. Lê, informa-te, pensa..por ti. Pensa...

[@HolyknightVader999]

So he was a Spartan Catholic dictator. Cute.

[@okapa]

@@HolyknightVader999 yeah, there's Buda and then Salazar

[@RANDOMSHITRANDOM]

We haven't forgot about him. What he did impacted Portugal with such strenght.

[@ivanbarbosa81]

A strength that caused 5 million refugees fleeing from the colonies because he wouldn't admit independence

[@MonsieurDean]

0:26 Germany: "Allow us to introduce ourselves..."

[@crusader2112]

“Gutentag” 👋🏻

[@PeakPeakPeakPeakPeak]

@@crusader2112 Poland: Guten tag my ass

[@crusader2112]

@@PeakPeakPeakPeakPeak It’s a joke Poland, don’t worry,

[@DarthFhenix55]

@@crusader2112 Russia: How about another joke, Germany?

[@crusader2112]

@@DarthFhenix55 Mein Gott. Russia no please. Nein!!!!!!

[@Macvallesantos1]

A dictator that at the time of his death had one old car and a family house. Didn´t still a dime from Portugal, left a debt free country even after so many independence wars. And left more than 500 hundred tons of gold in the national bank. Then the socialites came to power and after only 50 years, we owe more than 150% PIB and our economy is on of the poorest in EU. And the gold reserves dropped more than 50%. Most people didn´t have any problem with the "dictatorship", only the communist reactionaries.

[@ivanbarbosa81]

Still Portugal was poor, he should've used that gold don't u think?

[@trevormillar1576]

Nah, people still remember Salazar; Europe's really forgotten dictator is Ioannis (John) Metaxas of Greece, the only fascist to side with the allies against Hitler and Mussolini. Needless to say he didn't last long.

[@UnderRebelControl]

How can you say this man was a Dictator if he wasn't. Just because his Country was doing amazing when he was in Office doesn't mean he was Evil just because no one else toke his place. The reality is people are unaware and uneducated about what is really going on.

[@RafaelBarbosa-xn6sj]

As a Portuguese, no, Salazar didn't turned Portugal in a wealthy nation. In fact it was the opposite

[@fcphsd]

As anyone with a bit of cleverness can see from Rafael's comment, Portuguese people cant reach the true anymore. I'm also Portuguese and know that 99% of these people are completely alienated from the truth. Portugal needs another Salazar but Secret Societies will never allow that. In the matter of fact, international elites already won the Cultural war here a long time ago...

[@DkSilv4]

Não sabes o que falas

[@nhomoraes]

Sounds like a eulogy to Salazar. Actually, Portugal was known under his regime for being poor and illiterate, contrary to the video claim (check the figures, please!!). Another mistake: though the collapse of the Brazilian monarchy contributed to the end of the Portuguese kingdom, the Empire of Brazil fell down in 1889, but the emperor would die in exile only two years later.

[@joaoarturdasilvapiteira9239]

A good man who died poor, unlike the vast majority of politicians

[@PauloTheWinger11]

I'm speechless. Totally unbiased information, unlike (too) many things we find about Salazar online these days. Congratulations. Excellent work.

[@eisbergsyndrom5010]

Salazar feared his regime would collapse if he deolonized but it ended up getting overthrown partly because of the endless resources spent stubornly holding on to the colonies.

[@Pres.Shinra]

This is very incorrect, Portugal was very poor.... The economy might have "boomed" but because it was so small and still remained very underdeveloped

[@hotman_pt_]

it was still more wealthy than today or before the regime, comparing to the standarts

[@br3menPT]

Tens que estudar mais! Não adiante repetir as mentiras dos partidos políticos....Estuda!!!!! Get your facts right! You need to get some real information! Portugal was even poorest before Salazar and guess what? Nowadays Portugal is poor and already asked for 3 bailouts in just 34 years.....

[@Mpl3564]

Correct. Portugal was much poorer at that time and with a much worse social situation by any measurable standadrf (income, health, education and so on). This place is full of pro-dictatorship assholes that possibly were a privileged minority at that time (or descend from the few priviliged). Very bafdly attended.

[@Duck-wc9de]

The problem plagging the first republic wasnt the anti-religion movement, it was more the shear instability. Portugal had 45 governments in 16 years, meaning that the average government lasted 4 months.

[@longiusaescius2537]

anti religion contributed

[@azores2]

He did many good things, he fixed the economy and kept us neutral in ww2 but even with all the money the state had he didn't give free healthcare or even tried to improve it, a good chunk of the population was illiterate and dragged Portugal into the colonial war that saw thousands of dead people and the economy ruined.

[@miguelbat27]

and many of those resources were used to keep the country quiet and whoever challenged the state was taken prisioner and tortured.

[@wilkic2]

False claims. The generations born after he took power quickly achieved literacy. He made far more progress in literacy than did the Republican government before him Also the economy was growing more than 4% YoY during his regime. It was never “ruined”

[@fatkrab7556]

Fun fact: Time magazine issued a number calling salazar "the dean of dictators" due to his habilities. In a unrelated note, salazar used his wits to supply tungsten to both Great Britain and Nazi Germany. So much so, the debt of the british couldnt be repayed in money, causing them to have to deliver all the gold in their vaults as payment. And despite the awful leaders we've had for the past 49 years, many of which have spent a lot of the gold on bland expenses "for the development of the land" some of it still remains. And as a leader, he gave all he earned to the government he served, having no family, no love life, and dying a poor man, with all of its earnings to be given back to the state Now, as a portuguese myself, i must admit. If i had to choose between big baby costa, Ventura the shitbag and salazar, the 3rd option would be the clear one. Our current leader has been continuing the stupidity of stalling the construction for the montijo airport, although the beja airport is a great reposition, making it possible to substitute the current faro and lisbon airports as excecutive airports, constructing a new, spacious and modern deck while building railroads to connect said airport with the cities. The only reason big baby Costa is still on leadership, is that: 1- He always makes bland promisses when his period is about to end, trying to capture the love of people by giving out small gifts 2- He is the representant of the biggest party in the country 3- The other choices are even worse, or sadly, irrelevant, due to the high focus on PS(Socialist party, Current leader), PSD(Social-Democratic Party, 2nd place(used to be until new polls came out)), and, sadly, CHEGA(Full on right wing, controlled by the biggest asswipe to roam this land, basically a donald trump but worse as he has been really racist towards several races in public) So, in conclusion, please kill me, i was born in the wrong country

[@Chaika1974]

What a beautiful comment. The last part about "kill me, i was born in the wrong country" really hit me hard. Portugal has so much potential, but it's wasted in such a criminal way that i'd rather have been born somewhere else.

[@fatkrab7556]

@@Chaika1974 True, yes. Sadly, the country goes from bad to worse. After this comment was made, it became public knowledge that out finance minister has denominated his wife as a very important minister(forgot which), and did not told the public because "It wasnt necessary" While this is happening, big baby costa is enjoying a nice vacation/diplomatic trip to south korea

[@fatkrab7556]

​@@Chaika1974 Fds acabei de me aperceber que tu também és PT. Meu mal

[@slendii366]

As someone who will be moving to Portugal, the main thing that saddens me is that people even agree with CHEGA. Even Salazar, a dictator, didn’t say the outright racist, and dangerous stuff that the CHEGA leader has said. His supporters are proud of Ventura’s Nazi salutes in public and false narratives backed by misinterpreted statistics.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@fatkrab7556 criticize chega for having or not having sound economy? No, it's cause they're mean to Africans !! 🤡🤡

[@vanessasanha528]

He’s never been forgotten we remember him every 25th April lmao

[@ivanbarbosa81]

For the worse reasons

[@Icefrostmiguel]

My Father is 68 year old and only lived in Marcello Caetano's time. He tells me he is the most underrated statesman of Portuguese history. When the revolution took place the country already joined an economic union, opened its economy, started eletrification, had a GDP growth over 10%, PIDE was abolished for DGS which only acted in coup and cold war matters (targeted URSS agentd). School was reformed, pensions were given to the poor and getting a visa was easier than in Salazar's time. The reaction people had was to make a revolution and exile him. My father is not a statesman but was a farmer who suddendly was able to study for free in a good public school thanks to this Politician. Media made Marcello's image miserable, unfair and disproportional. People spit on what was given to them.

[@Portugalisbased]

in general portugal, as a portuguese, is very forgotten. even though i'd say we have more history than spain

[@Anonymous-py1sf]

Man, there are cities in Portugal full of tourists, just like Greece, do you want Portugal to be even more famous? Bullshit. You should try to make it less famous. Visit Lisbon. Immigrants and tourists everywhere, sadly.

[@miguelbat27]

I get that this was supposed to be a quick explanation about it but I personally find the lack of mention about how much the Portuguese people suffered under his regime is a bit insulting, I think it would've given more impact too on the fact that it was later liberated by the people to end the Tyrany. It was quite recent considering my grandma lived through it and my mother was already around to experience the end of it so I think it deserves mention. But other than that great video! best wishes from Portugal :D

[@PauloTheWinger11]

There was no "Liberation by the people". The Carnation Revolution was made by the army. It was organized by the army (Otelo Saraiva de Carvalho and a few more) and executed by the army (the name Salgueiro Maia should be familiar to you). Besides, most of the people in the major cities and in Alentejo were happy with the revolution the army made, yes, but not everybody felt that way. In 1975 the country was at the brink of a civil war. COPCON used PIDE-like repression and people in places like Rio Maior and throughout Northern Portugal began to attack the left-wing parties' headquarters. Also, Portuguese people from Angola, Guinea-Bissau, Cape Verde and Mozambique were not happy with the revolution. Those who could run away from independence came to mainland Portugal or went to South Africa. Those who couldn't were either killed or had to join the non-Communist guerrillas (FNLA, RENAMO). The ones who came to mainland Portugal were labelled as "Fascists" for many years precisely because they were against the Carnation Revolution - and they too were part of "the people". Both white and black. Black, yes. This may surprise you, but the number of black Portuguese who fought in the ranks of the Portuguese army against the "Liberation" movements was very large and there were units composed exclusively of these people (African Commandos - mainly in Guinea -, Flechas - mainly in Angola -, GEP - mainly in Mozambique). And don't forget to add entire ethnical groups to the tally, such as the Bushmen (the original population of Angola) and the Bailundos. Another fact that should be food for thought: in 1973, in Mozambique, the number of Mozambique-born recruits was higher than the number of Mainland Portugal-born recruits. But there was censorship and the PIDE, yes. Portugal was not a Western-type democracy, no. But it was still less brutal towards the opposition than the Communist countries and, at a certain point, at the same level as the USA (see McCarthyism, or WW2 when Americans of Japanese descent were interned in concentration camps). But you wouldn't have problems with PIDE if you were against the Government UNLESS they suspected you were a Communist - that was the context of the Cold War. The approximate number of PIDE agents and informers is a mere 3,400. Some people say 20,000 but the only written list that was ever found shows about 3,400 names. And the combined population of Mainland Portugal, Angola, Mozambique, Cape Verde and Guinea Bissau was about 25,000,000 people. Therefore, it's ridiculous to say that Portugal was a police state and that there was a PIDE member or informer in every corner. We're talking about 1 agent or informer per more than 7,000 people!!!!

[@HeathenDance]

@@PauloTheWinger11 A questão não era apenas "POLÍTICA." Foi social e cultural. O regime Salazarista, que durou meio século, tornou os Portugueses incrivelmente tacanhos, fracos, medrosos, ignorantes e incultos. Submissos à igreja Católica e agarrados às saias das mãezinhas. Infantis, malucos por futebol. Ainda hoje se nota isso. Qualquer dorzinha de nada, vão logo correr para as urgências dos hospitais, sempre metidos nos médicos. É uma coisa absolutamente deprimente. Vivi na Suécia e na Alemanha, e percebi que, em geral, os cidadãos Nórdicos de 20 e poucos anos são MUITO MAIS À FRENTE que Portugueses com idade para terem juízo. Eu tenho amigos com 40 anos e até mais a viverem em casa da mãezinha, e acham perfeitamente normal. Por certo que o Estado Novo é muito culpado de tudo isso e muito mais. Em 1974, literalmente, metade dos Portugueses eram analfabetos. Em plena Europa Ocidental, 30 anos depois do fim da II Guerra Mundial. Que mais há a dizer? As pessoas focam-se quase sempre, apenas, na história política ou até económica, e esquecem-se de avaliar as consequências, repito, CULTURAIS e SOCIAIS dos regimes. E em termos económicos, o Salazarismo era outro desastre. Pobreza por todo o lado, enfim.

[@PauloTheWinger11]

@@HeathenDance a História de Portugal não começou com Salazar. Antes dele, após a miséria que foram os séculos XVIII (um terramoto que literalmente arrasou o país, tendo sido sentido até na Irlanda) o séc. XIX (perda do Brasil, invasões, massacres, terra queimada, seguidos de uma guerra civil e várias revoltas populares esmagadas com sangue), veio então a 1ª República, durante a qual houve muita fome e uma crise económica pior. Isto (a miséria e a violência sofridas) tornou o nosso povo fraco e submisso, não o Estado Novo. O nosso povo já era descrito como sendo assim por escritores como Pascoaes, muito antes de Salazar. Malucos por futebol é agora. Por exemplo, no tempo de Salazar, o hóquei em patins era tão popular quanto o futebol, o ciclismo dava cartas (as populações paravam para ver passar a Volta a Portugal) e os deportos tradicionais (chinquilho, por exemplo) estavam por toda a parte. Não me venha também com a Fátima e com o Fado, (três F), pois isso também são mitos: para além do fado havia o folclore (altamente promovido) e surgiram as primeiras bandas pop e rock na década de 60, caso dos Sheiks, entre outros (onde, já agora, as mulheres começaram a andar de mini-saia e biquini, havendo fotos que o demonstram). Fátima e a religião podem ser considerados alienantes, mas hoje ao domingo também vai tudo para o shopping alienado prestar culto ao Deus-consumo (prefiro o Deus de Fátima, que ao menos ensina valores espirituais). Analfabetismo? Os dados relativos a 1970 (Pordata, etc.) indicam analfabetismo MUITO INFERIOR a metade da população (24%, sobretudo idosos) e muito inferior ao período pré-Salazar.. Em termos económicos, não foi desastre nenhum: salvou Portugal da bancarrota, e todos os dados indicam crescimento ano após ano. Pobreza havia (as pessoas do campo tinham 6 e 7 filhos, se fosse hoje e tivessem o mesmo número de filhos também seriam pobres). Mas também foi com Salazar e as milhares de escolas que ele construiu que foram lançadas as bases para uma classe média forte, que tivemos durante as décadas de 70, 80 e 90. Há que ter em mente que Salazar apanhou um país SÉCULOS atrasado em relação à generalidade da Europa Ocidental. Se em 1970 o país estava 20 anos atrasado em relação a esses países.... pois, Roma e Pavia não se fizeram num dia. De referir contudo, que países como Malta e a Irlanda não eram mais avançados do que nós, e não tiveram lá Salazar nenhum. É sempre complicado um país periférico evoluir tão rapidamente quanto os outros. Em suma, estude mais um bocadinho e não vá atrás de tudo aquilo que ouve.

[@PauloTheWinger11]

Ah, e na questão do isolacionismo, isso também é falso. Fomos membros-fundadores da NATO e da EFTA, ou não fomos? A expressão "Orgulhosamente sós" aplicou-se num contexto específico, quando os nossos "aliados"norte-americanos votaram contra nós na ONU e o Reino Unido e a França se abstiveram.

[@pedrocsantos8]

From 1950 until Salazar's death in 1970, Portugal saw its GDP per capita increase at an annual average rate of 5.7 per cent. The economic growth and levels of capital formation from 1960 to 1973 were characterized by an unparalleled robust annual growth rates of GDP (6.9 per cent), industrial production (9 per cent), private consumption (6.5 per cent) and gross fixed capital formation (7.8 per cent).[6] In 1960, at the initiation of Salazar's more outward-looking economic policy, Portugal's per capita GDP was only 38 percent of the European Community (EC-12) average; by the end of the Salazar period, in 1968, it had risen to 48 percent; and in 1973, under the leadership of Marcelo Caetano, Portugal's per capita GDP had reached 56.4 percent of the EC-12 average.[7] On a long term analysis, after a long period of economic divergence before 1914, and a period of chaos during the First Republic, the Portuguese economy recovered slightly until 1950, entering thereafter on a path of strong economic convergence with the wealthiest economies of Western Europe, until the Carnation Revolution in April 1974

[@MrKlipstar]

A Industrialização Portuguesa de 1948, com as barragens, até á Físip em 1975.Só lá vamos com a Indústria, Agricultura,Pescas e Minas ao máximo possível Eu defendo um novo modelo industrial, para Portugal.

[@SirBenjiful]

Salazar was removed from power after his stroke in 1968, so his tenure should only be measured until then, not up to his death in 1970.

[@Local_NPC403]

As a Portuguese, yes its very sad we are mostly forgotten, mostly everything people know about us is CR7. But anyway its very funny hearing english people try to pronounce our names xd. Thanks for knowing we exist! :D

[@DiogoGaming2]

é isso irmão, feliz 25 de abril, fascismo nunca mais, salazar bom é salazar na cova

[@charlie27203]

É verdade, isso me fez rir 🤣

[@SerialChronicles]

Great info, I did not even know this about Portugal.

[@12D_D21]

It is not at all great info. This video is filled with misinformation, and, if you're really interested, I'd advise you to research yourself a bit on the topic.

[@SerialChronicles]

@@12D_D21 Will do can you send me some links please thank you.

[@andrewgomes8213]

As a portuguese I must say, great video and you kept a lot of the details that made Estado Novo. What you forgot to mention was the poverty that Salazar created, anyone who's opinion differs from Salazar was sent to prison. History tends to repeat itself, and Portugal is in another brink of having another Estado Novo. 😓

[@andrewstehlik3917]

That fits the old-fashion Catholicism program - they always loved to subjugate substantial parts of population in servitude - ideals form of medieval feudalism.

[@eliasroque2397]

pois... O CHEGA!

[@andrewgomes8213]

@@eliasroque2397 yep basicamente o programa do CH e uma "copia" do Estado Novo.. parafraseado.

[@espadarte_ex]

"What you forgot to mention was the poverty that Salazar created" No poverty was created, most of the people were already poor before hand. No one's standart of living was worsen do the dictatorship, exept for communist align militants and politicians.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

Portugal was so impoverished no-one wanted to give a loan to it and he managed to change that. Believe me, the poverty was not him. He was relatively mild for a dictator and tended to exile people.

[@duartesilva7907]

Salazar turned Portugal into a wealthy country? Come on, that's not even remotely true. Portugal in 1974 was closer to Romania or Albania in terms of development and quite far from the development present in Spain, France, Italy and other Western countries. A lot of socioeconomic data corroborates this

[@hubertusvenator5838]

In 1975, Spain had the world's eight largest economy. Now, it has the world's sixteenth largest economy.

[@pequenoaviador7779]

Como portugues ele melhorou o país mas nao ao ponto de o fazer uma mega economia

[@wolfgang6517]

Portugal Literally had oil in Cabinda

[@Alkusanat]

Don't try to make him llok like a good person! Salazar was fascist or rather as close to one as one can be... he idolized Mussolini and even had his portrait on his desk, had friendly connections to Franco's Spain, with Mussolini's Italy (from who he brought fascist architecture to Portugal by recruiting Mussolini's architects to the country) and Hitler's Germany since he considered them to be too pagan for his taste but even so he borrowed a lot from their ideals. He implemented christian corporatism which was heavily related to Mussolini's ideals and his government was a combination of authoritarian nationalist, conservative and anti-liberal tendencies. And by the way.,.. as for the higher literacy you mentioned, he just raised the compulsory education from the 3rd to the 4th grade... nothing more. The finances did become better at first by making everyone except the already wealthy families, as poor as possible, and under the thumb of the catholic church who were his biggest allies... And when we entered the colonial war the he and Marcelo extended as much as possible, all that extra wealth was spent in a war only they still wanted to keep going for 13 years... thousands of young men were forcedly conscripted and if the attempted to escape or showed any signs of leaning left, they would be sento to the front lines, forced to work in the offices of PIDE (the state police that dealt with any political dissention by arresting, torturing and killing and even trained Gestapo officers in Portugal during 1930's) or sent to the state ran concentration camp of Tarrafal, in Cape Verde. So, he might not have been exactly like the other fascist governments, but he behaved like one in so many aspects. So many killed, tortured and forced into exile. It was the military and the Portuguese people, who ended the regime he created and since then we became a much more modern country in a democracy, with all the good and all the bad that it caries with it, but at least we are free of 48 years of terror!

[@IMAC1776]

Salazar won a poll of the greatest Portuguese of all time and the poll took place in this century! I don’t think Hitler would manage that in Germany. That suggests many Portuguese see him as more of a benevolent dictator than a tyrant.

[@Alkusanat]

@@IMAC1776 people forget history... that's why we currently have 50 fascists in parliament. And it's happening all over the world. And Germany makes sure to criminalize any nazi remnants that show up, and they actually affected the whole world. Salazar closed the country on it self, having most people as uneducated as possible to make anyone easy to control. He was a pile of shit, responsible for thousands of death people, had whole villages massacred in Africa during the colonial war, used his political police to torture anyone speaking up against him, had a concentration camp in Africa for political adversaries, where those who tried to escape, would be put in a metal box under the sun, to be cooked alive for days... even if he had done something good, he was responsible for crimes against humanity, and that should have never been forgotten!

[@janicerich4937]

@@Alkusanat The hilarity of you calling democratically elected parliament members fascists it fascinating.

[@miguelmachado3259]

Wealthy and stable nation, literacy ... under Salazar??? You are absolutely MAD.

[@estranhokonsta]

Nah. He is right. All of those are facts. The problem is that for them to be true, one has to have a very narrow and detailed context to analyse them. If one compare those numbers and realities to other "more known" countries, then those "facts" look more and more like caricatures. In the end, It is always about context.

[@miguelmachado3259]

@@estranhokonsta He is not. Anyway... The most relevant being that repression and violence against those who stood against the authoritarian regime, and awkwardness of a regime of casts, with no connection with reality and lacking integration in the world. A brutal colonial war that swept half of the country's budget at its peak missing so much for the population...

[@HolyknightVader999]

Get that republican propaganda out of your head. Salazar was actually good for Portugal. Ever since he left, Portugal has gotten poorer and poorer, and no leftist can ever fix it.

[@iankingsleys2818]

Unusually for a dictator and indeed for most other European Political leaders, Salazar was an honest man and drew very little in salary, The average Spartan would have turned his nose up as his accommodation..

[@joaodemenezes786]

The finest governance was that of the Estado Novo of Dr. Oliveira Salazar, as I had witnessed in Goa. Bribery and corruption were unheard of. Today Goa, once Rome of the East, is a political, moral, and financial wreck.

[@Gagegehris]

Love the recognition of Herr Dollfuß🇦🇹✝️

[@eaturcookiescookie7462]

🤨

[@inkphoenix5446]

In Portugal we don't remember Salazar in a very good light, sure he did bring some stability from the first republics. But his secret police, PIDE ("Polícia Internacional de Defesa do Estado"; aka "International State Defense Police") persecuted, tortured and killed our people if we even dared to criticize the government, free speech was pratically non-existent during the Estado Novo decades. We have to thank people like José Mário Branco, Zéca Afonso, Mário Soares, and others for giving us hope during those dark times.

[@carlrodi-jr5pr]

You got D. Pedro Ii " story wrong! He was removed from power. He passed away long after that.

[@sn4tx]

As a Portuguese, I realise that at that time and up to WWII, he did his best for the nation. In an international scenario. But within Portuguese borders and it’s colonies, it was hell. Today, after all these years, it’s easy to glorify Salazar and many even miss him. But let me put this way. I’m in my very late 30s. And all of you reading this, wherever you from, can accordingly to your situation make a comparison. In my family I was the first to be born as a free human. I grew up with that feeling. As I got older I started to realise what I meant to this country side family. Not only that, I was born in the 25th of April. I grew being always called by my family, and even extended family, as the “o 25 de Abril”. It was like a nickname. It took me decades to realise what that meant to them. Many people have different notions of what is the definition of freedom. For some freedom is the right to have weapons, or the right to say whatever you want. Whatever your notion of freedom is, which by all means valid, one doesn’t know what freedom truly is until one loses it. Luckily I didn’t experience a life without freedom but I grew up with people who experienced what is like to be deprived of freedom. That shaped me to who I am today. That reflects to this day (within my family) who I am what I stand for. My family have a military tradition. As far as I can pinpoint, since my great grandfather to my father and uncle, every single man in my family were military. So for me it was a very natural step. After high school I joined the military. I was the last of my family to do so. Recent events like the Ukrainian- Russo war makes me loose my appetite. Makes me wish I was younger. It hurts me deeply. It’s upsetting this reaction of all European nations. It’s crazy how this war been going for this long. And we just sit here. Watching the news. Scrolling the internet. Even at some point just ignoring what an European country is going trough, when many of us in recent history were in their position. Fuck dictatorships. We should never give up fighting for freedom.

[@soweco2969]

Vocês Portugueses são tudo uns esquerdinha seboso hoje em dia em?

[@marcosnunes6684]

👏👏👏

[@truthismycause2800]

Muito bem, jovem.

[@truthismycause2800]

​@@soweco2969 Vai para o (_)_)::::D bolsonhento terceiro-mundista.

[@Overlorde79]

Se tu achas que és livre agora,estás muito tapadinho.

[@kajamix]

It was a time when dictators believed they had to be real mean and those who were anti-dictatorship were by and large under the influence of communism and maoism. Both were bizarre.

[@anakin3060]

The greatest Portuguese citizen ever.

[@icommitarson]

No

[@anakin3060]

@@icommitarson as in voted by the majority of Portuguese people in 2007

[@costa2k1]

​​@@anakin3060 the poll was conducted in a Right Wing manifestation

[@anakin3060]

@@costa2k1 Actually that contest was conducted by RTP, Portuguese State Television, a pro-Socialist tv state run tv channel.

[@nunopereira265]

One thing it was not just war in Angola but yes in every colony we had beung Mozambique Cape Verde St. Tomé and Princr, Guine and others, it was a long decade of war that lead the exausthion to extreme

[@hotman_pt_]

not really, there was no war in Cabo Verde, São Tomé and Príncipe, Timor, Macau or portuguese India. We just gave the first three cause some dumb people wanted to.

[@fall3n4ngel24]

What did I just watch. As a portuguese, I can't help but feel offended by this video. Dictatorship sugarcoating is priceless

[@markuhler2664]

Interesting, didn't know Portugal was a dictatorship during this time. Or the anti-Catholicism at the beginning of the 20th century, which seems wild considering how Catholic the country is. Given that he was a dictator and that he seemed to have done some good for yhe country, and seemed to place the country above himself, he almost seems like a Doctor Doom kind of guy. The nicest totalitarian I've ever heard about.

[@yvonetubla7682]

tf? portugal isn't catholic

[@markuhler2664]

@@yvonetubla7682 From the Cultural Atlas website: "Today, the vast majority of Portuguese identify as Roman Catholic (81%).1 However, most consider themselves as non-practising. For many, national and cultural identity is often linked to Catholicism, rather than purely a religious affiliation. Of the remaining population, 3.3% identify with some other denomination of Christianity, 0.6% identify with some other religion (including those who identify as Jewish or Muslim), 6.8% identify with no religion, and 8.3% did not specify a religious affiliation.2 ... ...However, apart from major celebrations, church attendance is quite low. Generally, people who reside in cities and larger towns (particularly in Lisbon and the south) are less involved in the daily practice of Catholicism. On the other hand, those residing in central and northern Portugal tend to show their religiosity more. For example, attendance of Mass, honouring saints, processions and celebrating religious holidays are participated in more devoutly. ‘Romarias’ (pilgrimages) to regional shrines are also a core religious practice, especially in northern Portugal ..." 1 Central Intelligence Agency, 2020 2 Central Intelligence Agency, 2020 Okay, it's culturally Catholic. Only 6.8% of people call themselves atheist or agnostic. I, and most people, would call that Catholic. What's your criteria? 70% attendance at daily mass? A majority of schools and businesses starting the day with a rosary and saying the Angelus in the afternoon? Tax breaks for families who have members take Holy Orders?

[@vascoamaral5309]

Cuidado com a cadeira Salazar...

[@slendii366]

😂

[@ultraimprovement]

Ok, but you didn’t even tell the bad things he did

[@janicerich4937]

Like what?

[@BrunoRibeiro-po2bv]

Salazar made the economy boom? In what alternate reality has that happened? Portugal under Salazar was an agrarian, poor country, made to think small and be excessively humble. He made sure a lot of portuguese died in africa to hold on to what anyone could see was impossible to hold, instead of negociating a more favorable agreement for Portugal. He disregarded industrial development whose effects can still be felt today! Salazar may have done some things correctly, but, in the end, was a terrible dictactor

[@soweco2969]

Clássico Esquerdinha seboso de Portugal

[@hotman_pt_]

deixa de ser tapado, não há crescimento económico na história de Portugal como o do estado novo.

[@mbras9176]

​@@hotman_pt_ de que vale crescimento economico se a população é toda pobre e sem liberdades?

[@hotman_pt_]

@@mbras9176 a população portuguesa, com ou sem crescimento económico, continuaria a ser pobre e continua a ser pobre hoje em dia. A diferença é que vendemos liberdades que outros conquistaram e nos deram e continuamos na mesma. E liberdade é algo que valorizo imenso na verdade. Mas é necessário perceber que o estado novo foi fundado com o objetivo de acabar com a decadência do estado e a instabilidade política. À semelhança da troika, o estado novo retirou liberdades ao povo para o seu próprio benefício. De que beneficiaria Portugal de mais 3 décadas de sucessivos golpes de estado, instabilidades e recessão? Vale a pena dizer que o contexto no fim do estado novo era completamente diferente no entanto. Mesmo que não aprove a ditadura no sentido das restrições à liberdade, a verdade é que, no contexto da guerra fria, foi um mal necessário não só para os portugueses europeus, mas também para aqueles que viviam nas províncias ultramarinas que só veriam decadência e morte no pós independência.

[@lusitaniagov]

​@@mbras9176 como hoje

[@sergiomiranda1497]

This documentary is actually pretty accurate 👍

[@-jdb_89_mgr_pt-]

Portugal is the greatest small country in the world...😎😎😎😎👍👍✌✌❤❤

[@velography38]

Thanks ❤

[@MrKlipstar]

" We do not discuss God and his Santity,we do not discuss the Fatherland and his History and do not discuss the Autority and his prestige." Salazar,1936 in Braga Rally

[@robeseller6530]

It is easy, when comparing with other european dictatorships, see the Estado Novo as a lesser evil and Salazar as a great man. One shouldn't fall into that trap. We mustn't forget that the Estado Novo was a conservative dictatorship, with all the ugliness that comes from it: censorship, a brutal political police (PIDE), forceful social conservative laws (ie, divorce was illegal), severe economic inequalities, wasteful colonial wars, just to name a few. In the final years, the paranoia got so bad that you couldn't meet in groups without drawing suspicion from PIDE.

[@truthismycause2800]

Salazar was a petty tyrant, not a good man. He's burning in Hell for allowing the Catholic Churh to abuse thousands of children, for torturing thousands in the dungeons of political police PIDE and for bringing this old nation to its knees trying to cling to a nearly dead Empire in his delusions of grandeur, an attempt that caused starvation, death and disease to millions. Salazar burns in Hell if there is one.

[@NexusMJ]

I came here to make that caveat as well, the video seems to present Salazar in such a positive manner while glossing over the brutal beatings and torture, hardcore censorship and the habit of sending people who opposed fascism to the cape verdean concentration camp of Tarrafal, known as Camp of Slow Death, where they'd put people in solitary confinement in a cement hotbox under the tropical sun while feeding them bread and water only every two days - so not exactly the pious catholic regime it seems to be painted here. It was also a soft oligarchy and despite performing well economically all the wealth was in the hands of about 6 to 8 families, so not very beneficial for the people either, the general populace was very poor.

[@vascoandradeesilva8235]

Salazar was one of the greatest Portuguese men to have ever lived.

[@truthismycause2800]

@@vascoandradeesilva8235 🤣🤣🤣🤡

[@truthismycause2800]

@@NexusMJ Well put. You just missed the medieval style feudalism in Alentejo where the people lived at the mercy of the whims of a feudal land-owning overlord that even commonly and without any moral or legal boundaries "used" 13 and 14 years-old servant girls as they pleased, dumped them when they got pregnant and nothing could be done about it because the local police was in their pockets and tradition dictated the victim was to be blamed for being "too sassy or provocative". And then these nostalgic fascists have the audacity to claim "under Salazar's ruling there used to be respect and morals"... Oh yeah, great example of those values indeed. Just as great as the costumary wife and children savage beatings. That's why so many children those days were borderline retarded and couldn't learn anything in school. Two thirds of my classmates in elementary school never learnt to read or write. Another examples of wholesome pious christian values: rampant unchecked paedophilia, violence against women and children so well expressed in the old saying "a good head of family has bread in one hand and a beating rod in the other" This people is disguisting and lived with a blindfold covering their eyes to the suffering, abuse and deprivation experienced by 80% of the portuguese population. We should have dealt with them after 25th April but as the spineless soft people we are we didn't and now they have returned to spread their hatred and depravity, and brainwash their offspring.

[@hubertusvenator5838]

The Marshall Plan was a loan scheme to buy influence. The borrowers were not expected to pay the loans. It paid for less than 5% of Europe's reconstruction. Portugal borrowed less than seventy million dollars under the Marshall Plan. It paid the short term loan on time. Portugal had immense natural resources in Angola. It had immense gold reserves. It was neither a poor, nor a small, country. Its working class and lower middle class were chronically poor. These classes were chronically poor everywhere. At this time, during the years between the wars and in the 1950s and most of the 1960s, the American South had families living in one-room cabins that earned a meagre subsistence as sharecroppers. Portugal's solid bourgeoisie, the professional classes, was on par with that of Switzerland. Its large fortunes were among the world's largest. Portugal's economy was essentially colonial. It was resource driven. Nowadays, Portugal is a cheap Club Med infested with foreigners. The Portuguese emigrate to Switzerland in droves. Ironically, the Lusitanians hailed originally from the territory that is now Switzerland.

[@michaelsaint2267]

im portuguese... i agree 100% with your comment

[@antoniosousa3115]

I used to say “Portugal is forgotten 9 months of the year” but now you can’t talk portuguese in the middle of Lisboa, too many tourists, personally i love the spanish and the italian and i like the british in Algarve because the pay tequila shots to everyone

[@rita_bastos_1159]

Fun fact: Salazar's original home in Santa Comba Dão is still there, with just a few renovacions. Also, his death might be related to a certain chair

[@tylerbozinovski427]

Electric chair? Never heard any insinuation before that he was secretly executed.

[@MrKlipstar]

He had fall from a chair in 1968 and provoque his internation in Hospital and the State bought a machine to keep Him Alive until July 1970.

[@rafaalves1290]

One of the greatest portuguese guy ever 🤩. VIVA SALAZAR🇵🇹

[@albertorosales5555]

A correction Dr Salazar did not come to Coimbra to study finance but to study law

[@albertorosales5555]

@count kalergi a cadeira de Finanças Públicas , em Coimbra é leccionada desde um ponto de vista jurídico , dando bastante ênfase , ao que hoje em dia chamamos lei de enquadramento orçamental ( Leo ) . Durante o Estado Novo o método/doutrina de equilíbrio orçamental vigente diferia bastante ao que a Leo atual prevê .

[@PedrokasxD]

Vejo muitos a falar mal dele, mas em 2007 foi considerado o melhor português de todos os tempos... Na verdade em mais de 100 anos de república, não tivemos outro melhor... Agora temos políticos que em vez de ter média de 20 a economia e finanças e irem para cargos político por mérito, tiram a licenciatura ao fim de semana e ocupam cargos políticos por convite de amizade... Não sei se choro ou se rio, mas tudo isto é triste tudo isto é fado 😂 desculpem não ter escrito em inglês beacause o que é nacional é bom 😂

[@kaveirinhaz]

Good explanation. Nice to see a foreigner taking interest in Portuguese history.

[@RANDOMSHITRANDOM]

I loved the touch of the "A Portuguesa" near the end! It is an epic ensamble and the proud instrumental of our national anthem!

[@camloff]

Salazar was a poor short sighted dictator causing Portugal to go back for many years. Political police (PIDE) not allowing free speech and freedom. He was not so creative up to Portugal development. Just for agriculture ... potatoes or food and Africa colonies with 13 years of a sad and costly colonial war for a poor Portugal. He was Franco friend and Hitler too ... Portugal was and still is too excessive Catholic and too many churches instead of schools to develop the People mentality.

[@benjaminobienu5297]

Most like Europe's forgotten caring saint is more like. I never knew Portugal had a dictator before, only a republic with an unstable government that weakened the economy. I'm glad you visited Spain and Portugal because Salazar deserves to be praised for caring more about his country and people, unlike Hilter, Mussolini, and Stalin, who only managed about power, for I don't know much of European history. Still, I did know because of this video. This is a fantastic video, Josh; your research and effort into it made it worth watching and educational at the same time. Could you please make a future alternate history on what if the Brazillian monarchy had been restored? I would like to see a future video on that topic; and Brazil is a constitutional monarchy with Manuel II becoming Manuel I of Brazil. Anyway, this is a great video, Josh, so please keep up with the fantastic work, and I hope you get more likes and recognition you deserve!!

[@adrianabernalcorrea5715]

Great idea

[@benjaminobienu5297]

@@adrianabernalcorrea5715 You mean the Brazilian monarchy being restored with Manuel II becoming Manuel I of Brazil?

[@Silver_Prussian]

Mussolini and h*tler did care for their nations its just that they wanted to make them great in a bad way.

[@benjaminobienu5297]

@@Silver_Prussian Oh, I didn't know that, but they are doing it wrong by not listening to their advisors and acting on impulses and desire to achieve victory.

[@mbras9176]

Portuguese here. Salazar doesnt deserve praise and he didnt care about his people. The day the estado novo ended is a national holyday. 25 of April.

[@michaelchen8643]

I would assert that his lack of visibility as a leader and a dictator, and an autocrat gave Portugal some breathing room so they could develop without any kind of international acrimony in this way actually got the best of both worlds and so did Portugal

[@michaelchen8643]

Portugal had an important international relationship that probably kept it above water when it came to his reputation and that is 600+ your relationship with united kingdom and willingness to allow the Azores to be used by the allies as a base for air and sea transport during World War 2 Unlike Spain, there was no major war fought with millions of lives taken And the use of Nazi Germany’s war machine to prosecute this war Portugal dictatorial administration was seen as benign on the world stage and perhaps even benevolent

[@pedrocsantos8]

In Portugal many call him, the Saint Dictactor. He did so much for Portugal!!

[@eusoueu5504]

yeah so much inequality and fascism

[@pedrocsantos8]

@@eusoueu5504 Just pay attention to the words! As you know, Doctor Salazar was not a fascist; he never wore the armband, nor the boots, nor the costumes; he did not persecute the Jews, he did not persecute the judges, he even invited people who thought completely differently to his government several times. He had his way of governing, but to call him a fascist is to ignore the value of words. Incidentally, the proof is that when there was a fascist movement in Portugal, Doctor Salazar immediately ordered its dissolution and had Rolão Preto arrested. I repeat: This is being ANTI-fascist."

[@eusoueu5504]

@@pedrocsantos8 nope, he would be a clero-fascist, fascism is an ideology that is flexible to each use, no two fascist regimes are the same, and you don't need to be anti semite to be fascist Rolão preto was a national-syndicalist, he arrested him as they were not exactly the most loyal

[@pedrocsantos8]

@@eusoueu5504 O estado novo não era um regime fascista, isso está mais que estudado, basta ver que Portugal entrou na OCDE, EFTA, Nato, durante esse regime. Ora se fosse um regime fascista como algumas pessoas pouco informadas o querem fazer querer isso seria impossível.

[@eusoueu5504]

@@pedrocsantos8 LMAOOOOO ele juntou se a NATO porque era anti comunista, e Os EUA, apoiavam regimes de estrema direita, desde que fossem anti comunistas

[@fredericocr1]

He did not leave a wealthy nation.

[@hotman_pt_]

he did leave however a more wealthy nation than today or before the dictatorship, comparing with other countries.

[@br3menPT]

Portugal is impoverished, brutally indebted and without a national strategy

[@joaobarbaca3097]

ok pls donr forget the fact that his secret police arrested and tortured all hwo where suspected also the colonial war was the bigguest mistake in his career the coup was made because the people didnt want to go to war it was draining us economically and socialy those where the main reasons why his regime went out also alot of censorship altough i agree he was much better than other dictators he was still a dictator

[@peenutbutter1613]

Dude, D.Pedro II ruled an independent brazil

[@lucydelgado969]

Altho he did a lot of great stuff for Portugal's economy both my granparents and my parents generation keep a heavy trauma of what they went through during the regime. The censorship, the governamental police that we called PIDE , the war in africa, my grandpa had to cut is pinky so he didnt go to war because he like a lot of people didnt actually care if mozambique or angola were independent or not he just wanted to be with his family and marry my grandma. There was a lot of sadness and fear during his regime, people were very careful with the ideas they would say in fear that someone might denounce them to PIDE of conspiracy against the government , and anyone was fair game , u could even denounce someone of conspiracy even when it wasnt true just because u didnt like them. My mom says that she and her siblings had to share one sardine because there wasnt much food and she started helping my grandma when she was 12 yo and this reality was very common back in the day since my friends's parents all have similar a story. My grandma says when the revolution took place she never felt so much disapointment at her own country and the world she grew up in just didnt exist and was a bunch of lies they indoctrinate them but at least she felt truly free.

[@eusoueu5504]

Ya, mas a cena da economia ser boa é também exagerada, pois embora tenha "crescido" foi de uma forma muito desigual, e o crescimento podia ter sido muito maior se ele abandonasse o corporativismo e abrisse a economia. Os meus avós paternos fugiriam a pé para França, os meus maternos não sei muito, mas o meu avô participou no 25 de abril

[@brigidspencer5123]

Salazar was a very controversial and polarizing figure, people either hated or loved him and he admired Adolf Hitler to the point where he punished one of his ministers who assisted in helping Jews escape the Nazis. Most of my relatives spoke frequently of the crushing poverty and the secret police, even in the churches. Salazar was a Fascist Dictator, not someone to admire.

[@Icefrostmiguel]

O Marcello Caetano abriu a economia, acabou com a pide, deu reformas aos idosos e abriu as fronteiras. O país cresceu super rápido no mandato. A paga que o povo lhe deu foi um golpe de estado e o exílio.

[@anna3046]

Portuguese here - In the beginning he did well but his hunger for power destroyed the nation. This is because he did not allow working class people to have more than 3 years of schooling. Today, we are still suffering from this policy as people over 50 years don’t have a proper education and this has halted our economy and progress! I really dislike what he has done to my parents!