European History is Not White History - A response to Mark Collett

Martian history, on the other hand,
Mark Collett's video:
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[@jazzybee_s]

"He was black. This guy, seriously, real black. So black. He was really, really black. Did I mention he was black?"

[@jakubmike5657]

@@mrsuspicious1743 And then the black person who looked totally black, and I mean it, not tanned, not cappucino, black as night, black as the heart of the tax collector, black as tar, so this black person who was a knight (did I mention he was black) went into the inn. XX century historian This knight was clearly called "black knight" as a moniker that was probably caused by the color of his armor. Black armors were not uncommon in Britain at the time as they oftentimes served as a way to scare your enemies.

[@SeekerOfKnowledge87]

Did "Moorish" refer to armor too?

[@jakubmike5657]

@@SeekerOfKnowledge87 XX century historian Moorish probably meant that his armor was made by Anthon Moore- famous X century blacksmith :-)

[@maivaiva1412]

no he wasn't, cultural marxism, no black people existed before 1970, we are under attack from the SJWs REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@johnDoe-yt4bx]

@@maivaiva1412 exactly

[@hbomberguy]

Green Knight Erasure

[@rbgg2010]

Martian Genocide

[@theiveyed8677]

Gangrene disenfranchisement!!!!

[@Carbon1095]

Hey my favourite KZbin person 😀 pretty sure I stumbled upon Shaun cos if you 😆. Shaun ma other favourite KZbin person. Even if he is a scouser...

[@sirvalot8360]

Don’t make fun of this. The Green Knight has a long history of being portrayed in Green Face

[@lumpilumpinski9951]

To be the smartass again. The green knight is a christian adaptation from a pagan symbol that represents the death and rebirth of nature every year.

[@zamam8216]

The description of the Moorish knight, "this guy was black I tell you, I mean apart from his teeth, he was just black, blackety black" 😂😂😂

[@zamam8216]

Oh? Because from the description Shaun quotes one would think...

[@lacedemonians]

As 13th Century English & Dutch became acquainted with the Islamic world, some poets worked up stories with Saracens, including one of a son of an English knight & a Moorish princess. I suppose that Shaun can also declare the beheaded Green Knight to similarly be a "person of color" and uniquely enabled!

[@IrvingIV]

Both his eyes and teeth were white, the rest of him was black as night.

[@mathieushifera135]

@I Am Groot The term "moor" was an umbrella term. The people using it typically weren't too concerned with specific geography so much as "this person's from Africa"

[@johnno.]

😂😂😂😂

[@jlaw131985]

Shame on Sophie Okenedo for taking a role as a Queen from the traditional Shakespeare actor: a male.

[@Ezalor122]

@Ozymandias Kang of Kangz you are very far in

[@jospinner1183]

@Ozymandias Kang of Kangz Yikes. Aside from the general racism, I think you've got some substantial misconceptions about European history. Many of your complaints seem to derive from works of fantasy that have nothing to do with Europe (eg. black elves). You also make a weird distinction between sub-Saharan Africans and those from the rest of the continent. Ethiopians from the Oromo and Amhara ethnic groups would still be considered "black" like most ethnic groups on the continent, based on a visual appraisal of physical features. You also seem to believe that when the Greeks conquered a land and made it "Greek" that they somehow removed all of the previous residents and somehow replaced the entire region with olive-skinned native Greeks. Empires usually don't completely displace native populations, they just steal their wealth and sovereignty, and then take native wives and begin mingling with the majority-native population. "Greek" parts of Africa were still almost entirely of African descent. As an additional, educational point, you might consider doing some research about civilizations on the African continent, since you seem to believe that the properly "black" Africans weren't capable of "civilization" and "castles." This is 100% untrue. The first example that jumps out from memory, is the Mali Empire (ca. 1235 to 1670), which was fabulously wealthy and did a lot of conquering and building. Their most famous king is Musa Keita, who brought and spent so much gold along the way on his pilgrimage to Mecca that he sank the economy of Egypt into a 10-year recession. You can learn the basics of this empire here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire For a better survey of ancient and medieval civilizations in Africa that will clear up some of your misconceptions, check out OSP's video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJyWmoKngLR3bck

[@jospinner1183]

​@White Witch Um, I'm not sure a video on an admitted white nationalist channel is the best place to get information. The guy has another video entitled "Nationalist Channels I Recommend." I'm willing continue discussing the topic, but I'm not going to give a racist more views on his channel.

[@jospinner1183]

@White Witch As an additional reminder, race isn't a scientific trait that can be measured. It's a social construct that uses visual differences as cues to reinforce cultural stereotypes. Every living person on the planet is descended from a single woman (sometimes called Mitochondrial Eve) who lived around 150,000 years ago somewhere in East Africa. Groups of her descendants occasionally departed the continent, but the first group to persist was haplogroup N, which represented the descendants of a woman who lived somewhere around the middle east, about 50,000 years ago. All people of European matrilineal descent are her descendants. So are most people of Asian matrilineal descent. In evolutionary history, even 150,000 years is just a blink of an eye. As a comparison, lions and tigers diverged around 11.3 _million_ years ago, and are still capable of cross-breeding. Humans have an unusually small amount of genetic diversity, and the main takeaway here is that the concept of "race" isn't based in science; it's based in culture and is reinforced by bigots and morons.

[@BIATEC88]

@@jospinner1183 Egyptians and Carthagenans were not black. By your logic Indian and far eastern people can't both come from Asia as you can only have one type of people on a whole continent

[@FlyingOverTr0ut]

Why does watching Shaun, ContraPoints, and HBomberguy (among others) not affect KZbin's recommendations nearly as much as ten seconds of a Jordan Peterson video? Now my recommendations are non-stop Ben Shapiro/Stefan Molyneux/Jordan Peterson type ownage videos.

[@TheRadPlayer]

Personally, if I watch a JP or similar video, I always make sure to do it in incognito or another browser, to not affect my recommendations.

[@209clayton]

My guess would be it's down to the amount The alt right tend to not have to research Thier content and throw tons of it up regularly Shaun makes a well researched video like once a month Meaning statistically there is less content like Shaun's for it to find and show you Or it could be KZbin is just really bad at it's job

[@Fluxquark]

Because youtube knows that young, white, cis, hetero men (I am assuming here that at least 4 of those 5 descriptors apply to you) are easy to suck into a JP/BS/SM hole which will make them watch loads and loads of videos. Also, lefttube is still comparatively small, these right-wingers still churn out videos at way higher rates.

[@gvasari]

While we wait (and wait... and wait...) for youtube to get its house in order, try going to your YT history and removing the video(s) you don't actually like. That should, hopefully, change what YT recommends for you.

[@DaSquareful]

Its because KZbin uses a shitty social media algorithm that thrives off of what gets people riled up regardless of content.

[@CerealBox64]

Let’s honour our ancestors who fought bravely on Mars SHARE IF YOURE A TRUE PATRIOT

[@General12th]

F

[@TheBaldapap]

protect are women!

[@burbclavefutur1527]

DEFEND RED MARTIAN SOIL FOR EVROPA! MARTIAN MANHUNTER WAS AN HONORARY ARYAN! /s

[@raycearcher5794]

18/35/1701, never forget!

[@fruitygarlic3601]

If it weren't for our brave forefathers, we wouldn't have the Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Anarcho-Communism™ we enjoy today. Sobek bless you all!

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Turns out black people have existed for a long, long time. And also they *did stuff.*

[@Richard_is_cool]

How shocking, am I right? Also I like your name.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

@@Richard_is_cool Thank ye!

[@dreadhead5719]

@Ruddy Bakewell the reason they did not have the wheel or a written language was because they were isolated. Your written language came from the middle east somewhere and spread throughout Eurasia and the wheel came from Europe or the middle east and spread too. Why don't you think Native Americans, Sub-Saharan Africans, and aboriginals did not have any of these things.

[@gunnarsvensson2546]

we wuz kangz an sheit!

[@sylvestergharold7265]

Actually, Native Americans did have very impressive technologies. The Mayans had a near pin-point accurate calendar, and were masters of astronomy. The Aztecs had, among many other things, very sturdy yet light armor made of quilted cotton. The conquistadors took off their heavy iron plates and fitted themselves into the Aztec armor. The Incans made a humongous trade and communications network through their enormous zigzagging road network through the mountains. The main reason that the Native Americans didn’t make the wheel, or go further into metallurgy, was because of geography. Innovation couldn’t be spread throughout the Americas, due to rough terrain and vast distances. Climate changes along latitudinal lines a lot quicker than longitudinal, so while Europeans were mainly in one climate with similar animals and climates, the American civilizations were scattered throughout the bitter cold Canadian Shield, the Great Plains, the wooded East Coast, the dense muggy forests of the Amazon, and the sheer cliffs of the Andes. They had no animals for which to drive a plow, or to hitch to a cart. The only big animals they could really try and domesticate were the llama and the buffalo, and only one of which was successfully domesticated. What they did accomplish, throughout all of the Americas, was biological engineering. In North America, they started and controlled wild fires to burn down brush for farms. In the Yucatán, the built a sprawling city on top of a swamp island and a lake. In the Amazon, they planted so many edible plants and controlled the plant populations so much over generations that they transformed the Amazon forest into what it is today. Simply because “they didn’t invent the wheel” doesn’t mean that they were just dumber than the Europeans. They were just given a different hand to play with, and they simply made things that benefited them depending on where they were.

[@lucid_lady6067]

"So you get it - this guy was Black" I can't breathe

[@flying-sheep]

That was perfect comedic timing and made me burst out laughing! (Unlike my timing, replying to your comment here 1 year later)

[@lacedemonians]

​@@flying-sheep - That was weirdly prescient timing.

[@flying-sheep]

@@lacedemonians Oh damn.

[@NugsSlugsBugs]

the phrasing... yikes :O

[@gwenrees7594]

Holy shit that aged like milk

[@pseudophori6541]

Wait a minute, I just realized that this channel is all lies. How are those glasses staying on without ears to support them? I can’t believe you’re being so dishonest about the ways glasses and human skulls interact. And to think I trusted you.

[@coryfice1881]

He uses tape.

[@fulcrum2951]

Flex tape

[@Nyah420]

What gave it away for me was the support for globalism. The glasses are a nice detail, too.

[@abbreviatedalex2418]

What's globalism? I hear the word thrown around a lot but I don't know what it is, can you explain it to me?

[@fulcrum2951]

Might be a globe

[@Shenaldrac]

The Irish/British relations were especially grand during the period of 1960-1990, from what I hear.

[@WariorKitty]

tom tom Lol British and Irish relations weren’t good, is what OP is joking about. British people being white didn’t stop them from oppressing and being generally horrible to the Also white, Irish. Read a history book lol. Looking like somebody else doesn’t mean you get on, otherwise all of European history would be peaceful .

[@violet7773]

@tom tom just. Omg. Just google something. Anything.

[@peterduff9281]

Ireland shows even small differences can lead to hostility. What does that mean for the future of multiculturalism?

[@brendanmccabe8373]

Shenaldrac actually they were the north of Ireland had bad relations Britain didn’t want to be there. They wanted to leave and they still do want to leave but because of unionists they can’t

[@ThePepper67]

Nituraa Yeah but it gets WORSE when you bring in different races. I'm not saying white people haven't ever done bad things to each other, but the tribalism that occurs among different races adds even more division in society.

[@tshred666]

Fascists “we want a united Europe” EU exists “no, not like that.”

[@epicgamer3560]

Yeah we don't like being united on the basis of being replaced by foreigners. Apologies if you can't handle that

[@Agarwaen]

@@epicgamer3560 So you're a fascist. Nice of you to admit it I guess.

[@epicgamer3560]

@@Agarwaen your only retort is to label us fascists because you have no convincing or genuine alternative response. I'm not the genocidal one here, you're the people that want us gone, nice of you to admit it I guess :)

[@Agarwaen]

@@epicgamer3560 Erm, you yourself labeled you as a fascist. Do you understand how words work?

[@epicgamer3560]

@@Agarwaen Erm, the original comment was a strawman argument labelling everyone who thinks a certain way as fascist. Do you understand how lying works?

[@geeksworkshop]

Since when has Dr Who been known for it's historical accuracy lolz.

[@lacedemonians]

Since when has Dr. Who been known for its cultural accuracy either?

[@darkeimp555]

That description of the Black Arthurian knight was literally a "He was so Black - How Black was he???" bit lmao

[@archdukefranzferdinand567]

Except his teeth, they were white

[@quirkyblackenby]

Archduke Franz Ferdinand nah they were black too apparently

[@peterduff9281]

Funny how Shaun mocks the Martian element of the Doctor Who series as destroying the credibility of Mark Collett's example but falls over himself to convince us of the blackness of a knight in that well-known as real life drama King Arthur and the Round Table!! Does he believe in Excalibur as well? Talk about double standards.

[@kendrajade6688]

​@@peterduff9281 There is such a thing as exploring the hypothetical your opponent has opened up. At first he was going with, "Lancelot being black erases the 'real history' of the Round Table? Well, here's this knight who disproves that even if we pretent Lancelot was a real guy." Later, he had a point against a different argument wherein he first pointed out that his opponent was projecting his values back into history to make it look whiter than it was, then pointed out that Doctor Who is under no obligation to use reality as its confines because it is an inherently ahistorical work.

[@lacedemonians]

He's a fictional character who was added later by a Dutch 13th Century story - the son of a Moorish Princess and an English knight. As Europeans became more acquainted with Saracens, they included them in their stories.

[@jamesoconnor5807]

the Doctor Who part about Queen Victoria sending soldiers to mars made me laugh out loud.... How dare the BBC disrespect their memory....!

[@ojigbo]

It is fucking science fiction, get over yourself.

[@fds7476]

@@ojigbo r/wooosh

[@derekmcmanus8615]

Queen Victoria didn't send them, they found an Ice Warrior and used his ship to travel to Mars to expand the British Empire as was what was happening at the time.

[@refoliation]

Fascists really prefer imagining history to reading it.

[@lacedemonians]

@Tiger Tamer - [.. Fascism is an autocratic one party dictatorship where nationality/race supersedes the rights of the individual. It necessarily results in human rights abuse, to put mildly. ..] So, how is your description of fascism much different than the communism of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, et al?

[@lacedemonians]

​@Tiger Tamer - your cursory description of fascism seems very similar to a cursory description of Marxist communism (as they are actually practiced).

[@lacedemonians]

@Tiger Tamer - The point is that rather than make extremely cursory descriptions of fascism that are somewhat misleading, you might study the subject, and/or study someone else's in depth analysis.

[@lacedemonians]

​@Tiger Tamer - I want you to see what you're doing. You (and the modern Left generally) use terms "fascist"/ "hate" very broadly - like medieval inquisitors used the term "witch" - as a verbal club to intimidate anyone whom might disagree with Progressive control-freak political causes.

[@lacedemonians]

​@Tiger Tamer - "The Left" is a term with historic roots in Revolutionary France, is a useful modern term for the ideological movement that advocates powerful expansive pervasive government which is empowered to control most aspects of life, and control all important industries, companies, and resources. Thus, government bureaucracies must make choices regulating who gets what - for the good of all. Thus, under the leadership of good wise compassionate social justice activists - society will be be fundamentally transformed to make it more egalitarian (via socialism) and accessible (via special legal protections) to favor identity groups regarded as historically oppressed victims or excluded by the white wealthy straight male oppressor class that should be blamed/hated for the world's ills. Do you essentially agree with that definition? If not, how would you define "the Left"? In actuality, the Left is a pervasive negative destructive statist corrupting progressive Cancer that is spreading throughout society. No matter what are the stated political beliefs of media/educational/law enforcement Institutions, legislators, executives, bureaucracies, and police - they are carrying out Leftist policies - e.g. mass migration by hostile military age men, encouraging foreign men to form their own societies and resist assimilation, encouraging mass dependence by the emerging vast underclass, increasing autocracy by government and bureaucracy, and suppressing/poisoning societal traditions, virtues, and social norms that once made society peaceful, stable, prosperous, and strong. The obvious decline and fall of Western Civilization is similar to that of the Roman Empire. BTW, Dankula was arrested & charged under the Communications Act 2003, which was passed under (Labor) PM Tony Blair. At least one conservative MP defended Dankula. As for Sheriff Derek O'Carroll who found him guilty - I don't know what political party he favors. The Sheriff is certainly a Scottish lunatic, which makes him far more likely to be a man of the Left. As a general rule, the Left seeks to ban "hate speech", i.e. anything the Left disagrees with. And the Right favors protecting free speech, because in the free trade of ideas, and via the give & take of debate, the truth tends to win out. This was articulated by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes in 1919. Unfortunately, thanks to the Left, free speech is protected in very few remaining countries (notably, the USA and Japan). Censorship is certainly increasingly applied on Internet forums like KZbin. Readers can judge for themselves who avoids fairly addressing points made by the other poster. If your question is, "are you a fascist?" Whether using your stated definition, or the actual ideological concept, or how fascism actually historically played out - my answer is an emphatic NO. Do I necessarily demonize those accused of / or self-identify with fascism, communism, Islam, conservatism, or Progressivism? Again, no. The reason is that character and actions speak louder than words as to one's true beliefs. However, words are still important.

[@infamousempire8302]

Speaking as a Once Upon A Time fan, I feel an additional point to be made is that the Enchanted Forest (the Fairy Tale World that all the magical characters come from) that said Lancelot comes from is specifically not meant to be the one from Arthurian Legend, a plot point in several of the seasons is that there is a different Enchanted Forest for every alternate telling of a specific story (by the final season there were 2 versions of Alice in Wonderland and at least 3 Rapunzels), and some reviewing of the show’s timeline confirms that the Enchanted Forest’s Arthurian Britain is happening at about the same time as Earth’s 1900’s, not exactly European History there.

[@geekygecko1849]

As someone who has never watched Once Upon a Time, this is a wild sentence to read lol

[@Starrydaydreams]

10:36 “You wouldn’t BELIEVE how black this guy was.”

[@Jotari]

It's rather hilarious how unambiguous they were.

[@jakubmike5657]

@Mark Donald Nah, he was probably being called black knight because he wore black armor...it is obvious...like duh. Why else would they call him "black"

[@tinamoul]

"Cause I'm Black yo, and I'm Black yo, and I'm Blacker than Black cause I'm Black yo"

[@blackswordsofsantiago1304]

Damnatio Memoriae...who will stand up for the deceased European black nobles who have been cruely written out of their own history, ? Who is not afraid to speak the truth about history? Great men, my ancestors, roll in their graves due to Damnatio Memoraie...

[@mitchyoung8791]

@@blackswordsofsantiago1304 LOL.

[@HeadsFullOfEyeballs]

4:40 As a German I find it hilarous to be told that ancient Romans are my "in-group" now. They literally built a giant wall to keep my ancestors out after they couldn't subjugate them! We did _not_ get along.

[@blackearl7891]

Heads Full Of Eyeballs they also called you guys barbaric, and uncivilized.

[@KookiesNolly]

blackearl7891 because they are! I saw a German man eating a sausage in public in Berlin!!!

[@HeadsFullOfEyeballs]

Eli N.S: Oh, yeah, that was me. Sorry.

[@KookiesNolly]

Heads Full Of Eyeballs I knew it!!!

[@marinesinspace6253]

Heads Full Of Eyeballs What bloody wall? Hadrian's wall was for the Picts, not the Germans. If you're referring to the Limes Germanicus, then maybe, but it wasn't a wall, but a series of forts.

[@xenosbreed]

I'm not familiar with Dr. Who, so I lost it when Shaun went out of his way to prove a black Victorian man is possible, and then immediately proceeded to talk about the fighting lizard men on Mars like accuracy was relevant at all.

[@maddyc2412]

Because heaps of other people are familiar about it and apparently a lot of people complained about the black guy being in it when they thought he wasn't meant to be. Congratulations today you found out you're not the only one on the planet

[@xenosbreed]

@@maddyc2412 Sorry I'm not familiar with Dr. Who I guess? I'm aware I'm not the only one on the planet

[@seankelly378]

Are you denying the minority washing of the great martian war of 1814

[@basedtvrk9125]

@Sean Kelly ikr, this guy probably also denies the brown washing of the Great Snowball War of Atlantis

[@SorowFame]

@@basedtvrk9125 we all know that the Atlantean military was made up of entirely purple people due to their rigid caste system.

[@davidgjam7600]

"black people have an ominous color" -Turning point USA

[@ayindephulgence4950]

DavidGjam can confirm

[@MrOzzification]

Worse yet the sentiment came from a dude who himself was black

[@JohnDiGrizUkraine]

@@MrOzzification probably Ethiopians (who are often much darker than the emperor seems to look like from his depiction) were unusual even for African Romans

[@forcedtohaveahandle]

@@JohnDiGrizUkraine "Ethiopian" was a generic word for a black person used by European people in Ancient times. So he might just have been a non-Ethiopian African, or maybe he really was Ethiopian lol

[@dominicperez3777]

Didn't know the Roman Empire was so diverse, but then I realized oh yeah I forgot the Romans conquered a lot of shit.

[@squidlump]

Dominic Perez it was also a large trade network

[@LordOdio]

+YOUTH KNIVES literally didnt watch the video

[@coryfice1881]

Yes YOUTH KVIVES all the people who were conquered magically became "Italian" when Rome took them over.

[@jochentram9301]

There is at least one source referencing an Ethiopian soldier at Hadrian's Wall during the reign of Septimus Severus, and grave stones have been found for soldiers, including at least one centurion, from the Levant and Northern Africa. In addition, there are multiple references to people from Africa being awarded Roman citizenship; I'd estimate that depending on the exact year, there may have been more Arabs and Africans wearing the toga praetexta than Germans.

[@ripyungbruh8157]

WHAT? Its for kids maybe they want to except everone. Like lol obviously no grown adult would think that that's true. Like use some context clues and common sense.

[@dylanbandstra3567]

To prove how little homogeneity there is within Europe, the Dutch national anthem still includes verses about how bad the Spanish are, and how there's a dire need to keep fighting against the Spaniards, as well as the figure of Zwarte Piet (Black Peter) who is often assumed to be a caricature of an African person, but is actually supposed to be Spanish, and if you're bad, Zwarte Piet will kidnap you and take you to Spain and force you to become Catholic, which for any Dutch child, would be a horror beyond imagining. Those verses are sung much less often now (obviously), and the Dutch-Spanish rivalry is pretty much entirely in the past (thanks, World War II), but this was such a deep-rooted thing that one European group considered opposition to another group of Europeans one of their defining cultural traits for hundreds of years (also, thanks House of Habsburg). And they're far from the only example, just the one I'm most familiar with, and I've spent a total of 3 months or so in Europe.

[@williehawaii9967]

That just means the real Europeans were black

[@razahrtelvanni2018]

Dylan Bandstra can’t forget Britains and French fries

[@TheBadassTonberry]

I will never see Sinterklaas the same way again...

[@sk3ptik0s49]

@@williehawaii9967 🤣🤣🤣

[@farsight6680]

Willie Hawaii get the Sherman I found a nazi scalp for the taking

[@jlastre]

I'm a decent of a Sargent of the 33rd Foot who won the VC fighting the reptilian men from Mars. I'm displeased you gave the history of this regiment such short shift.

[@ladyaj7784]

😂

[@BATCHARRO]

"We Europeans have a common history, we should be working together in union. Also I'm for dissolving the European Union we made if they don't kick out all the darks."

[@HonourableGentleman.]

The European Union is designed to destroy sovereign European nations

[@Davesknd]

No, it's designed to make European companies lots and lots of money. EU-laws can't trump constitutional laws of the member nations.

[@enfercesttout]

There usually arent sovereign nations neighbouring super powers. You know, they are either puppet states or really close 'allies'. All super powers create buffer zones with fake states to prevent direct invasion. Powerful states dont respect lesser states' sovereignty and EU is a compromise. And sovereignty is of rulers, not people. Rulers claim to represent fictitious groups as kingsnof the past claimed to represent fictitious gods.

[@austro-hungarianegonomist9049]

Jotaro97 are you supposed to make me love the EU

[@Healermain15]

For only 99 cents a piece! If only Egypt would stop with their tariffs on black people, we could get them for half a buck each!

[@PabloSpaulding]

Were talking about white genocide, when we should be talking about green genocide #preservegreenknightculture

[@mathieushifera135]

He's immortal. He'll be fine

[@drednot8811]

#preservegreenknightculture

[@redbenada798]

@Just some guy On the internet hmmmmmmmm that's "suspicious" hmmmm

[@nerowulfee9210]

9:29 I mean, in story Lancelot was french. From british standpoint black Lancelot may actually be improvement.

[@crylec6534]

XD

[@peterduff9281]

He didn't mock the knights of the round table fairy tale to make a point about one of them being a black person, but Martians ha ha how silly to mention the ethnic mix of the historical British soldiers. Let's stick to Excalibur and Avalon - nothing ridiculous there.

[@ryanjapan3113]

I would love to see him try to tell gavrillo princp that he was part of a homogeneous all white European group with the Austrians

[@moredetonation3755]

*puts sandwich down on the table with malicious intent*

[@harnanmylvaganam6311]

Well looks like I can't assasinate someone today

[@quemepartaunrayoiyo]

What do you mean?

[@jamesstuart3536]

Nah, Just tell a serbs that they are part of homogenous society with croats and other balkans.

[@TheHeavyshadow]

It doesn't even have to be that extreme or broadly defined. Just try tell someone from northern or eastern Germany they are homogeneous Germans with a bavarian German. Or try to tell someone from northern France they are homogeneous Frenchpeople with southern Frenchpeople. Or try to tell someone from northern Italy they are homogenous Italians with someone from Sicily.

[@joaolancadecarvalho7059]

Circa 10:30: He was black, y'all, he was black y'all, he was blackity black and he was black, y'all.

[@marinesinspace6253]

It's Arthurian legend. That shit not real.

[@kevindanner2090]

King arthur was not a real person

[@timothyswag3594]

Since Europe is full of whites and whites are racist, how do you know he wasn't in blackface?

[@timothyswag3594]

@@kevindanner2090 King Arthur is a blond-haired woman.

[@yurironoue5888]

@@timothyswag3594 Is this a Fate reference I've spotted? XD

[@Brawnald]

An Englishmen showing a tv show scene depicting vikings going to war with English people while claiming "we're under attack" and meaning white people overall is just the funniest god damn thing to me.

[@Healermain15]

Yeah, usually it's Europeans doing the taking. And mostly from each other.

[@GoErikTheRed]

John Tuckerson Correct. Medieval warfare tended to be forced multiculturalism and the TAKING of European homelands by foreigners that had no historic connection to the land. Or did you think the vikings that came over, raped a bunch of people, settled the land, and changed the language had some secret historical ties to some islands over 1,000 kilometers away?

[@littlemcmurry4676]

Christopher Stanley 😂😂😂

[@littlemcmurry4676]

YOUTH KNIVES he was mocking you because you sound like an idiot. And you are too stupid to understand with your big super brain or whatever

[@Brawnald]

Please keep missing the point. I find this very amusing. Though I do request more verbosity. Go grab your thesaurus. We'll wait.

[@baileyayyy5085]

I used to respect Shaud but seeing him callously dismiss the deaths of brave white brish soldiers in the great galactic ice wars really changed my worldview and voting habits

[@ruthk618]

As an Irish woman, the commentary on the painting made me laugh out loud, well done😂

[@TC-by3il]

"White fascists would rather be engaged in a bloody fight to the death against other white people, than have to sit next to a black person on the bus". Hit the nail on the head there. Great video Shaun.

[@markganus1085]

"sjw's would rather spend all their lives in a gated community, shielded against other people, than have to sit next to a black person on the bus".

[@UntoTheBreach24]

@@markganus1085 you are not good at this

[@alexanderchristopher6237]

@@Second.Coming wait... Who said anything about Israel?

[@Nyah420]

Makes sense. Segregation is the only way according to natural order.

[@lindo7503]

That was a great line

[@fenty2331]

How many times have European countries split up because of cultural and ethnic differences? Think about Austria-Hungary. Like how does he think that Europe is an ethnically homogeneous and culturally united continent??

[@coryfice1881]

Europe doesn't even have a unified language.

[@coryfice1881]

@Rogerio Lopes Of course 8th century Italy had the same culture and vales as 8th century Ireland.

[@kazaddum2448]

@Jeremy Jones Not really, because there are plenty of examples that did and do work.

[@katara2021]

@Be Kind To Yourself India is working, barely sometimes but still.

[@pako7414]

@Be Kind To Yourself I am in no favour of an ethnostate, but Yugoslavia ended in a war killing hundreds of thousands, the USSR broke up and was held by force, Afghanistan has a HUGE terrorist problem and is a very bad country to live in.

[@JD3Gamer]

That description of the Moorish Arthurian knight sounds like it was written by Eiffel 65

[@BigroomBlitz1]

Nice

[@_Tree_of_Life_]

This should really have more likes, honestly 😂

[@DavidCurryFilms]

I should be sleeping but instead I'm watching the talking skull again.

[@tbhon]

I'm half a Sargon in and this is already a good video

[@AldanFerrox]

Sargon should become a new SI unit in my opinion.

[@aabb-ev1vh]

is "one sargon in" half a sentence?

[@SJNaka101]

keks baron one sargon is 5 minutes.

[@aabb-ev1vh]

yeah but he only reads a whole sentence of an article before judging it. Even if the next sentence adresses his point.

[@cfv7461]

really? i thought that was because he wouldn't watch responses if they weren't 5 minutes long or shorter. That from the video of hbomberguy against him.

[@SquintyDork]

Most people seem to think fascists have to be so overt they have swastika tattoos on their foreheads, to actually acknowledge them as such. "Oh, no, you shouldn't just throw such accusations around, they're just a little bit worried about their cultural heritage, that's all. That's not fascism."

[@rafan800]

The fact that there are facists using more moderate language and concerns to disguise their sinister beliefs, doesnt mean that everyone who has those concerns is a nazi. The very reason why nazis are gaining traction after adopting this tactic is because there are non-racist people who legitimately believe things the nazis say, who happily jump along unaware that they are following nazis. Otherwise you would have to believe that around 30% of some countries were made up of nazis.

[@SLYKM]

I like to distinguish between fascism in general and nazi fascism, but I agree.

[@tereziamarkova2822]

Yes, it is true that there are people who like to point and every offensive/bigoted thing as "fascist", but that doesn't mean being offensive/bigoted isn't worthy of condemnation.

[@jamesfitzgerald1021]

Unfortunately for many anybody right of marxism is a raving fascist, there are many more people towards center either side of it than on the fringes .It is shame as its the extremists on both sides which feature in most response video's are largely beneath contempt and intellectual consideration .If you want to to see something hilarious , one of the funniest ,stupidest examples of brown face...check out the film the Conqueror with john Wayne playing Genghis Khan!!!As for Collett he is an ignorant twit whatever he says is!

[@tereziamarkova2822]

Please, USA, could you stop with this self-centred bullshit?! We were talking about Great Britain, a country that has lost the burden that is you a long time ago. Your working class obviously doesn't care for a lot of things, such as the fact that left-wing politicians usually promote more rights for small workers, thus fending for them (cheaper healthcare, maternal leave, better workplace conditions and so on).

[@someonerandom8552]

I swear whenever the outrage machine whines about a black actor being in a Shakespeare adaptation or play, I can practically hear the collective eyeroll of theatre geeks. Like plays have been blind casting since before these whiners were even born.

[@notquitemytempo1353]

Thank you! It's really annoying isn't it. Anyone with some sort of familiarity with theatre practices basically since its inception, knows this. They're parts, they can be played by anyone. A woman playing a man, a man playing a woman, a black playing a white and vice versa, it doesn't matter at all. What matters is the art, the play, the performance. One thing I'm glad for, is that these clueless, uncultured buffoons don't watch theatre. If they bitch and moan about some black actor playing a part in a TV show, I can't imagine the outrage Hamilton would have brought. And they would've reduced one of the finest pieces of art in recent decades to an irrelevant "controversy" about the casting.

[@someonerandom8552]

Not quite my tempo Omg yes! Like these idiots heads would explode if they saw Hamilton. The only part in theatre that I can think of that takes race into consideration might be Othello. And even then, there’s leeway with certain “visions.” A bunch of uncultured swine whining about nonsense, really.

[@notquitemytempo1353]

@@someonerandom8552 I mean, even with Othello. I gladly grew up watching theatre in a country, Greece, where theatre is quite prominent, like professional actors do way more plays than TV shows or movies. And I had friends who performed in their schools, like amateur stuff for the fun of it, doing Shakespeare plays and whatnot. And it's a white country, even the immigrants are mostly other white Europeans. And if anyone were to perform Othello, the casting obviously would've been white cause you can count black actors in one hand, so to speak. But it wouldn't matter at all to me. they could've cast a woman for the part for all I care. It's not about the actor's looks, it's about the words. I don't know, every time I see a new "controversy" about a casting I'm just rolling my eyes, like why are we talking about this, who cares?

[@someonerandom8552]

Not quite my tempo Exactly! While Othello is often portrayed as either a non white immigrant or someone with a foreign religion. Ultimately it doesn’t really matter what skin colour the actor has, as long as they can portray the underlying sense of tragedy the character has. Like you said, a woman could portray that and as long as the spirit and art are on display, then it is a success. I couldn’t agree more with you. The words are what’s important, not the actors looks. Brilliantly put. These chuds have all our eyes rolling when they whine about “controversial casting” don’t you worry. Bunch of uninformed idiots, as far as I’m concerned.

[@genieglasslamp5028]

@Henrik Nerg I guess it depends on the context and play. Like if the was set during slavery it would be a really bad idea to change the race of certain characters.

[@whynotcaptaincrunch]

I recently discovered this channel and have been going through some of the older videos. This one is great. I remember reading in some forums some people getting upset about the casting of actors of various races in The Wheel of Time... a fantasy series set in a post-apocalypse. Then it was "it's not faithful to the book" (which as well as being absurd is not even correct: the character descriptions are detailed in many respects but only rarely when it comes to skin color), but really, we all know the reason. They don't like being reminded non-white people exist, and they'll grasp at any excuse to justify that feeling.

[@sapphic_sophie]

That new Lord of the Rings series is getting the same coverage. Like, I’m sure there are legitimate criticisms for these shows, but all I ever hear about are people who are enraged at the thought of having even a single black character exist within the entirety of their fantasy world. It would be funny if it wasn’t so terrible. On a more friendly note, welcome to the Shaun community!

[@ojomaze7777]

@@sapphic_sophie I'm commenting to let you two know that this comment is at the very top right now

[@ND-nr6mx]

@@sapphic_sophie Not to mention Hobbits are described as being short, brown-skinned, and portly.

[@fnfallout5664]

No, we don't like when you re-write European history and fantasy (including Euroopan figures/characters) because you hate White people due to your misanthropic nature. Our opposition to this is self-defense, not being mad that non-Whites exist, they can exist somewhere else for all i care.

[@fnfallout5664]

@@sapphic_sophie Lotr is a fantasy written by an Englishman based on European folklore, so it's only correct that the characters are White (Well, the races are technically fictional but then especially there's less reason to have literal Sub-Saharans in a European folklore...). But for some reason, probably because you are an anti-White, you have a need to blackwash everything that's European instead of creating your own stories, pretty sad either way.

[@SigveSolvaag]

Please, a moment of remembrance for the fallen on Mars, whom bravely defended our world from the Ice Men. I salute every soul that fought on the red planet and ensured that we could enjoy Mars bars.

[@ripyungbruh8157]

I cry every time.

[@pepesilvia5936]

Never forget.

[@christianbrehm5398]

who*

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

@@christianbrehm5398 whomst'vesoever

[@LOL-zu1zr]

Never forget it was an all white men contingent 😢

[@kazaddum2448]

Shaun is back! And over 4 Sargons long.

[@alexanderkorte-stapff6824]

Kaza ddum can someone please explain the Sargon thing? I'm relatively new to this channel and I don't understand it. How long is one sargon, and why?

[@celebrimborblue5052]

Alexander Korte-Stapff Back in the day this guy Garett made a video criticizing a Sargon video, it was like half an hour long. So our mans Sargon instead of watching and learning, left a comment that went something like: "Bloody hell! Can't you sum it up in under 5 minutes?" So a Sargon is 5 minutes.

[@F_Luis]

Sargon of Akkad once commented on a 30 minute video debunking a video of his (I THINK it was by Hbomberguy) that he can't be expected to address the rebuttals because he can't make himself watch it more than 5 minutes or something along the lines. So a Sargon is 5 minutes.

[@barryh97]

Celebrimbor Blue Also where did Garrett go? He seems to have completely disappeared off the internet.

[@jaqu9001]

B thank the thousands of people that flooded his videos with hate because he criticized Sargon

[@Zoshnell]

Never forget the Martian Ice Men Wars...

[@fl333r]

Dude I have become really confused about my political identity ever since I found your channel. My one constant is that I've remained an individualist and I always will be, but it seems that I was in the dark about a great deal due to hanging around in echo chambers due to KZbin recommendations until I found your channel in the recommendations. I don't regret it but I do feel dizzy.

[@SephonDK]

Thanks for skipping the cool-aid and joining the rest of us :)

[@Tempusverum]

LOCAL COPE I’ve noticed that too. I keep seeing comments like “Oh Shaun, I was descending down this dark abyss of alt-right talking points videos, and they really had me convinced, until I found YOU! Thank YOU Soooo much!”

[@QuintessentialQs]

"Individualism" isn't even all it's cracked up to be, really. I say this a a former "right libertarian" and even "anarcho-capitalist" for my entire 20s. I read Smith and Mises, Rand and Rothbard. A common mistake of the right is to assume "Collectivism" means that you think people should have their rights as individuals subsumed by the "greater good". But, really, the individualist/collectivist divide is more about what is the more effective way to analyze history and the events of the world. Does history make more sense and provide more usable insight when analyzing it as the story of individuals? Or by looking at it as the interactions of groups? And if there's one thing an in-depth study of history over the years has taught me, it's that boiling history down to individual narratives necessarily produces flawed historical analysis. This is why historians have had to struggle over the last century to come to an understanding of history which doesn't rely on the "great man" theory of history. The other, primary difference between basically all "individualists" and "collectivists" is the recognition of property as an inalienable human right. John Locke thought "life, liberty, and property" were the three most basic rights. And later propertarians like Rothbard would reduce all rights to that of property. IE, liberty and life are a matter of ownership of your own body as property. I would highly, desperately recommend reading "What is Property?" by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. It is long, but even just getting through the first 3 chapters will get you through his in depth analysis and response to the philosophy proposed by the economists of his day (Adam Smith, Thomas Malthus, Jean-Baptiste Say, etc) and illustrates with great detail and logic how property is NOT a right. How it is fundamentally different from the rights to life (which must naturally imply a right to the means of life), liberty (which must imply the power to make reasonable choices free from coercion), and equality under the law (which requires that the laws or social contract must apply to everyone equally). Not only is property unlike these other rights, but it also stands in opposition to all three if it is to be maintained or defended. The free audio book here on youtube is quite good. Free from the tether of upholding property as a right, it is much easier to pursue a world where the rights of all individuals are protected. Because that's what serving the "greater good" really means in the first place. And the individualist/collectivist divide becomes clearly visible as primarily a smoke screen bandied about more by propertarians, who have an interest in protecting the owner class, than their opponents on the left, who for the most part are just as keen on having individual liberty for themselves as anyone else.

[@vanessawhite2084]

@@Tempusverum Yes, see, that's a thing that happens when people honestly try to learn the facts and examine things logically. They learn that the alt-right are the ignorant who don't know what they're talking about and the liars profiting from keeping them ignorant by confirming their biases for them. Intellectually honest people are capable of changing their position when confronted with facts, reasoned arguments, and outside perspectives.

[@Tempusverum]

Vanessa White Confronting the alt-right with facts and logic is lip service when the alt left are arbiters of censorship.

[@umor9014]

Wait, so was Sir Morien black ? I did not quite get that

[@jakubmike5657]

I vaguely remember that it was kind of suggested that he indeed could possibly be non white.

[@blackswordsofsantiago1304]

Chafariz D'el Rey, John Blanke, Giovanni Moro, Alessandro De Medici...just a few things to google...just a few

[@IEXECUTIVE]

Yes he was Black.

[@suzerainty4192]

Historical paintings are hardly ever representative of the actual population. For instance, many women stormed the Bastille but you won't find them in depictions of the event. It's important to ask yourself who the artist was and especially who commissioned the piece. Commissioners aren't known for wanting accurate portrayals of anything. In 1850 Gustave Courbet caused an absolute scandal when he created a massive painting depicting an ordinary person's funeral. Upper society lost their shit because only important people deserved (read: could afford) a large painting honoring their death. tl;dr- don't trust rich people

[@MarteaniArt]

conan263 that is (short version) Marianne, the spirit of liberty and symbol of the republic. She is an aligorocal figurehead and piece of propaganda. She no more represents women in the Revolution than the mermaids on prows of ships represent female pirates, or eagles superimposed on US flags represent a strong sense of environmental conservation in the NRA.

[@KookiesNolly]

B G hahaha thanks for the awesome schooling

[@KookiesNolly]

I keep receiving notifications of new comments in this thread but I can't see them in the thread itself. Weird

[@MarteaniArt]

Eli N.S disappearing comments are white history being erased in real time. *Spooky music sting*

[@wuugaa6776]

conan263 That depicts a different French revolution

[@andrewb.8184]

How do these people find tattoo artists willing to slap a swastikas on their chests? Like, how do they even float that idea out there?

[@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath]

Because they're getting paid.. A smart entrepreneurs wouldn't turn down a client. If someones paying cash for a swastika tattoo, then why not? It's their body, and their money in your pocket.

[@andrewb.8184]

@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath true but that tattoo is always gonna be the tattoo artist's art work and if it gets out that you're the one stamping swastikas on neonazis, it's kinda a bad look

[@lairdhaynes1986]

Maybe, just maybe, there are tattoo artists with white supremacist beliefs who gladly give such tattoos. It not really a stretch for me to imagine that where I live in the southern US there are probably a significant number of tattoo artists with far-right political views.

[@sapph4324]

@@lairdhaynes1986 id wager to say probably 2/3 of the tattoo artists in the south hold right wing beliefs. So it wouldnt he hard to find one willing to do a racist tattoo

[@franktheexpertstrenchclub9025]

What a stupid take. I JUST talked to a tattoo artist, while getting a tattoo, and asked her about this. She said if anyone asked any of the artists in her studio for racist tattoos they kicked them the “f*ck out.” You know why? For one, they’re not trash who will do any disgusting thing if they get paid for it. For two, because they’re GOOD ENTREPRENEURS who don’t want to lose business when people find out that their shop is frequented by and friendly to N*ZIS! I wouldn’t go to a place like that and I’d tell others not to. So YES, “good entrepreneurs” WOULD turn down money for something they find despicable and that would hurt their business.

[@jammyydodgeruwu2083]

people easily forget that there was once a roman emperor who was a middle eastern trans woman.

[@jammyydodgeruwu2083]

@Peter Sutcliffe The roman empire (rightly) get a lot of hate for the prosecution of the Jews, but they were one of the most diverse empires out there.

[@MyMusics101]

Omg please please point me to some sources, I neeed to know the details!!

[@jammyydodgeruwu2083]

@@MyMusics101 outhistory.org/exhibits/show/tgi-bios/elagabalus Obviously, like everything in history, we can only speculate. No one knows what Elagabalus felt other than themself, they could of been NB or a very flamboyant gay man. Although the current evidence points to them being a trans woman.

[@danb4900]

@@jammyydodgeruwu2083 Elagabalus also had several wives. Stop looking at this (probably) male crossdresser in such a modern lens.

[@alchemicpink2392]

@@danb4900 You act as if trans lesbians don't exist and haven't since forever... Which we have.

[@cashnelson2306]

My favorite is when communism/Marxist ideas are presented as somehow antithetical to "Western values" as though Marx's birthplace of (edit: Prussia) and lifetime homes of Germany and London are somehow not western

[@spacejazz6272]

Cash Nelson yes, it's frustrating that capitalism and the west have become almost synonymous, even though the west has produced a lot of anti capitalist ideas.

[@dlsllj1720]

he was born in trier (germany)

[@dlsllj1720]

@Neues Denken damn. i should have known this :-)thx

[@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747]

Marx was a white dude talking about wealth distribution and ways of production, that somehow translates into white genocide for fasists.

[@StudyofSwords]

It's because of "teh Jews" and Nazi belief that socialism and communism are part of the "Jewish conspiracy", though, and despite being present in "European' history for longer than Christianity has been a thing, they can't admit that many Jews were/are European, and so the dog whistle is revealed precisely for what it is.

[@EmperorTigerstar]

Good to have more Shaun.

[@jaojao1768]

EmperorTigerstar hey Tigerstar, cool to see you here

[@Asu-qw5to]

Good to know that you're a fan of Shaun.

[@obrkenobi1170]

I didn't know you were a comrade! That's amazing.

[@EmperorTigerstar]

This is literally the only time I've said this comment.

[@manuelpanisse5991]

EmperorTigerstar oh not here, how could you...

[@azazel166]

Greek here, before WW2, we were not seen as white by Americans.

[@LukeLovesRose]

You were before the invasions of 600 AD

[@azazel166]

@@LukeLovesRose That's nice of you to think that, but it didn't stop the locals from calling my people "dirty" and even lynching them in Nebraska.

[@hund7458]

@@LukeLovesRose i don't think americans thought anything about greeks in 600 ad

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@azazel166 Yeah, modern Greeks. The original Greeks looked like classier Vikings. They looked like the Romans. Roman culture came from Ancient Greece

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@hund7458 What does 600 AD have to do with Americans?

[@redwind1850]

I mean, here in Italy we have very different culture between regions...

[@theviewer6889]

Hell, the UK is considered one country but us Scots are different from the English.

[@Perrirodan1]

It sounds very differant to you but from an outsider point of view you are all Italians.

[@stillnowhiteguilt7469]

@Balon Greyjoy Our likes to your comments are getting deleted

[@porcupineinapettingzoo]

I was once teaching history in a Spanish High school, I asked the class to name some great civilizations, and after the usual Roman, Greek etc I wrote on the board 'the Moors' to absolute silence as it's basically a bad word in Spain. While northern European King's lived in squalor this civilization gave us so much in terms of architecture, maths and medicine. So I asked why they are not considered a great civilization and was told that it was because they invaded Spain, you know unlike the Romans!

[@ziljin]

Speaking of doctor who. There's a new trailer of a woman doctor who. And they got triggered AF.

[@immortan-valkyrie90]

ziljin *sips tea* oh yesss!

[@Youssef-yj8jq]

dont say triggered!! come on yall

[@SLYKM]

THERE'S A TRAILER?? I' been waiting for this!

[@digitaldeathsquid3448]

POE LITERAL CORRECTNESS GAWN MAHD

[@Mish844]

Which is funny, because it was established long ago that a time lord can regen into a diffrent gender/race

[@josephancion2190]

18:52 One of Shaun's finest quotes. Perfectly sums up a feeling that is not only present in wite supremacy, but, as I have noticed, in much more "moderate" conservatives.

[@qwertydog9795]

we do have to recall that Christopher Cantwell is a fan of Tucker Carlson...

[@quemepartaunrayoiyo]

There's no such thing as 'color' cultures, there were wars everywhere in the past, whites vs whites, blacks vs blacks, browns vs browns, and viceversa. As much there is nationality history I think.

[@quemepartaunrayoiyo]

Also, as a Spaniard, I can't tell for this mark guy, but people outside of my country consider us Europeans, and I as well consider us and myself Europeans too.

[@guts145]

There's no such thing as nationalities either. Source? Civil wars exists! You know what, there's no such thing as a village either, how can there be when people sue and hate each all the time?

[@fluffynator6222]

Not even that. Nationality is something that only grew in popularity after the Napoleonic Wars. The Habsburg K&K monarchy is a perfect example of how vastly different cultures could coexist within one realm.

[@olanordmann2743]

@@fluffynator6222 Tell the Czechs more about how well their culture "coexisted" under Habsburg rule

[@fluffynator6222]

@@olanordmann2743 Okay.

[@catlinejade3672]

What we today call Spain? S P A I N? I see Portugal in your map too Shaun. You're erasing us *sniff*

[@TheFiresloth]

Tell it like it is : it's Portuguese genocide !

[@sk3ptik0s49]

Join us, let's make Iberia great again and surpass the French.

[@zeeenno]

"You never hear a fascist say 'this is a minor thing, this.'" Wow, such a great point.

[@user-ej3iw8lw3w]

you never hear a sjw say "islamic terrorism"

[@a.morphous66]

Chuck Muckamuck Yeah, you do. Shaun himself mentions it when it’s relevant (not in this video, but several others). I don’t think anyone can kid themselves into thinking that Islamic terrorism isn’t a thing, but I do remember that there are plenty of people who can forget that white people committing terrorist acts is also a thing (i.e. just about every school shooting in the past two decades) because you need a homogenous good guy and a homogenous bad guy to make your philosophy work.

[@TheStapleGunKid]

Well that's pretty much true of anyone who makes a youtube video about a subject. If the subject was minor, it probably would not be worth the effort of making a video.

[@tjmatthew9800]

@@a.morphous66 terrorist attacks aim to achieve something politically, right? Most are just kids who snapped and went batshit insane. I don't think most are politically motivated. I may be wrong.

[@tjmatthew9800]

@@organizedopinions8068 your putting words in my mouth and addresing arguments I never made. I was talking about school shootings. "Don't be obtuse".

[@ivanmartinez-jd8gi]

The concept of race its extremely weird, for instance, in the us census portuguesse people would be considered white but Spaniards would not, i dont know why people care so much about race.

[@IncredibleMD]

Yes, they would be. Who told you they wouldn't?

[@ivanmartinez-jd8gi]

@@IncredibleMD I was just poinying how how ilogical It is to consider people from Portugal White and not do the same with spaniards

[@410ha]

It´s a reproductive strategy. protecting your own "genes" from maybe foreign superiority. Every animal on earth does it. we sadly have to deal with that. they want to have sex and we know sex is all about power.

[@staC-wh6ik]

@@410ha except that animals are different species and actual races, while the human being is one race. Also, by keeping the same genes there's more chance to develop hereditary diseases and eventually extinct. Mix is strenght ;)

[@Madhatter1781]

@@410ha Sex is not all about power, that's a very harmful idea I suggest you take a second look at. It will probably net you a lot more sex in the long run if that helps convince you!

[@yommish]

Thank you for making such videos. Sometimes I feel like people are so stupid and cruel that there’s no hope. You do much good.

[@eduardoslowpoke]

Regarding the last question about Spain, it's quite interesting that, until high school, I wasn't taught much of anything about Spain before the Reconquista. And most of my classes about the islamic world were not history classes, but geography! It was quite disturbing to realize that my own basic education was so white washed...

[@unknownsoldier452]

Hardly. Already by late 9th century, one of the court chroniclers noted that all of the Andalusian ruling caste had become ''fair haired and fair skinned'', primarily because of the mass rape and enslavement of Visigothic women.

[@Elsenoromniano]

Visigothic women were not so common on the Iberian peninsula as you might think. Visigoths came and ruled the zone (well not all, the Suebian kingdom of Gallaecia existed), but they were far from the majority, most of the population was hispano-roman. And you know what, that hispano-roman population didn't care much who ruled them, they wanted mostly to be left alone and tend to their cultives and not be very burdened by the lords. Most of the population after the Islamic invasion just converted to islam (not because religious reason, but hey if you were muslim you paid less taxes and had more chances in life). They didn't became "whiter" because of the mass rape and enslavement of visigothic women, they just didn't became whiter, most people just were the same people that were there before, they just, at least publicly, prayed to Allah instead of Christ and a substantial part not even that, the Christian population until the 9th century was basically half of the population of the Califate. They even used the same romance language, although because of the influence of Arabic it evolved a little different and became what is known as mozarab. That population then became somewhat reduced by different historical events after the 9th century. As for court chronicler, the source would be fine.

[@marvelfannumber1]

I don't really know if "white washed" is the correct term personally. I mean the conquering Arabs were but a small minority of the Iberian populace, so most Andalusian people would still look like Spaniards. It's not like the Arabs just genocided every Christian they could find to change their skin tone or anything. Then again, white is kind of an arbitrary social construct, I mean I personally consider Arabs white too (I mean, seriously, can you really tell the difference in skin tone between most Syrians and most Greeks?).

[@tereziamarkova2822]

When you get down to it, the very concept of "race" is a social construct, neat little box for a certain subset of humankind based on their appearance. Homo sapiens is relatively new species and we aren't so different as we look, at least when it comes to our biology.

[@musteiner3406]

Yes! I’m also Spanish and is quite disturbing how Al-Andalus is erased from our collective understanding of our History. The Iberian Peninsula was part of the Islamic world for more than 700 years, and it shaped great parts of the Spanish culture: form our language to our music, art, food, means of living and genetic makeup. Arab kings that were born and ruled here are seen as temporary foreign invaders while Visigoth kings are understood as part of the essence of our nation. It makes even less sense if you consider that under the Arab rule what is now the south of Spain became the most culturally developed part of medieval Europe. It is quite stupid to erase from our history something like that.

[@pavlezeljic8991]

hearing "hello everyone" now gives me butterflies in my stomach, and a pervasive feeling of warmth. thank you shaun.

[@lacedemonians]

Sean's friendly spoonful of sugar helps his poison go down.

[@professionalbozo4396]

Anakin Skywalker you again?!

[@Shilpa_Kujur]

@@lacedemonians .....what?

[@Prizzlesticks]

The same dudes who complain about including black people in historical fiction because it "didn't happen" are the same people who get rock hard over The Last Samurai and point at the very limited number of potentially foreign-born samurai (in which the number of white men is still the absolute minority of minorities). And for good measure, they'll go on about how actually their white samurai fantasy is totally accurate while simultaneously ignoring onna-musha of any sort. But whatever. They're history buffs, totally.

[@joelhagdahl5769]

and suddenly, the part about a black arthurian knight is extremely relevant again

[@magpiem0th]

Nice homestuck pfp

[@PavarottiAardvark]

For a lot of British History, many people (especially soldiers) would have felt more kinship with non-white soldiers in the Empire's army than with other Europeans. That's not to say that Britain wasn't racist, but it's preposterous to think that British sailors had more in common with their french enemy than the Caribbean dude manning the gun with him...

[@blackearl7891]

PavarottiAardvark knowing the Brits they probably hated the french more.

[@herculeholmes504]

I doubt there were many black sailors on British ships. Maybe a few, but 250 years ago there were significant cultural and language differences even between British sailors; The Scottish and Welsh had their own languages, and Cornish was still spoken. The idea of "kinship" is a bit misleading; these were men who worked and lived together out of necessity, but may never have had anything more to do with each other when they got home to dry land.

[@datfisheboi6519]

Hercule Holmes Well, what about the Sikh guy in the Trenches with him? It’s not just black. And probably the fastest way to gain some sort of comradery towards someone is for both of you to share the exact same terrible conditions together.

[@herculeholmes504]

Sure, you can establish a friendly relationship in that way, but imagine you were fighting alongside a Muslim who believes that homosexuals should be thrown from buildings and women should be stoned to death for being raped. You could develop a good relationship with him, but there would forever be a cultural and ideological rift.

[@PavarottiAardvark]

Except 1) Britain only legalised homosexuality in 1967, only outlawed Spousal Rape in 1991, and only abolished the death penalty in 1998. In the era of empire, these views would not have been prevelant in England. The idea that "Western Culture" has always respected women and tolerated homosexuality in incorrect, and there are many cultures (including Britain's former colonies) which had more forward thinking views. 2) Very few muslims believe that in the modern day. The Islamic world contains over a billion people with vastly differing views on these issues (it's almost as if the idea of Monolithic Cultures is bull...) 3). While there are of course reprehensible cases of prosecuting victims in places like Saudi Arabia, Islamic Law treats rape as a very serious crime. The Koran certainly does not advocate stoning victims to death....you're thinking of the bible (Deuteronomy 22). So much for Judeo-Christian Values....

[@MadeleineSwannSurreal]

It really freaks me out whenever I see fascist leaders discussing how to make their message more palatable to regular people. EDIT: yep, not only have we always been more multicultural than people think, but I've seen tons of colourblind racial casting in Shakespeare plays. The RSC has done that for years

[@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747]

As if they almost realise how bullshit their ideas are but just don't stop practise them.

[@TriggerHappyJim2]

Right, like surely the lasting triumph of Shakespeare has been it's adaptability? I saw an RSC production of Twelfth Night that was set in the 30's with a multi-ethnic cast once and it was just as impenetrable to my 16 year old brain as the conventional adaptations I had to watch. Never even thought of it in this context until now. AFAIK that kind of casting has just been a given for decades.

[@MadeleineSwannSurreal]

So then I was like absolutely!

[@TriggerHappyJim2]

Do you object to being called racist, out of interest?

[@jealousyofthesun]

Do you know the guy in your profile picture thought Americans of subsaharan African descent were not fit to live in American society and started programs to send them all back to Africa? Why do you have a picture of a racist bro?

[@2three362]

He was a Black, like really black...aside his teeth, every part of him was black. Did i mention he was black?

[@eca3101]

By this logic, Asian history isn't East Asian, African history isn't African, etc etc. Groups interact no shit, but it's the story of the majority group that is often told

[@hybridphoenix7766]

That's not the point. Idiots like Collet try to make out the European History as primarily locating to a singular sect, that being "white" people and why it was a predominant thing. He dishonestly leaves out the fact that European history happen to be an amalgamation of numerous things from different people, not just white people solely. They have their place in European history, too. It's still European history, no one is trying to argue or imply that because groups interact that it therefore isn't. What's being disputed is Collet's delusional perception of history, and why it's incorrect.

[@eca3101]

@@hybridphoenix7766 once again, but that logic there's no such thing as Asian, white, Arab, African history etc. And frankly I agree. The world is interconnected and groups do not act in isolation of one another. But when someone mentions "European history", that's not ignoring that other people's than Europeans are involved, but rather it is the Europeans that are generally the central actors (who happen to be white). This isn't some #whitePride post, heck I'm Egyptian lmao. My point is this is a pretty fruitless and pointless discussion

[@Mia-ln1zs]

​@@eca3101 You're using words that have two distinct meanings via the current context. The very point of this video. There is a distinction between "White" and "European." If by Asian you mean the race history. You are correct. There is no such thing as Asian history. There is something called Asian history but it isn't tied to the race rather the geographic location. Same with African, Arab, etc. There is no "race category history" especially considering things like Asian, White, African are fairly new concepts. It's like saying Native American history is US History. JIC instead of overriding geographic location with race. I overrode race with geographic location. They are not the same thing. The title of the video is "European History is Not White History." If you reread what you wrote you'll see you make that very mistake in your second response. Using European as a stand-in for white. Curiously, you seem to try and correct yourself by saying "who happen to be white." It doesn't fix it though.

[@enochwasright7940]

@@hybridphoenix7766 just because for instance Mongols colonised eastern Europe or that Arabs were in Spain etc doesn't mean European history isn't white it doesn't mean they can claim their history it's like me a Englishman claiming sub saharan African history is apart of mine and it isn't black because the English colonised Africa

[@christianmiller9934]

East Asian history isn’t the only Asian history tho so like and also not all Africans are black my guy lmao your argument is self defeating

[@rimmijohnson3361]

"why is britain called great britain" google searches just spiked

[@dawkot6955]

Is that supposed to mean that the UK was not keeping out races out of it's territory, excluding the colonies?

[@mookinbabysealfurmittens]

"Wot king? Well, I didn't vote for him!"

[@sleeexs]

daw kot People of britain were originally black

[@raiazh7724]

@@sleeexs They were dark skinned, as were all people until like 7k years ago, but they were not black. If you're thinking of the "Cheddar Man", his ancestors had been knocking around Europe and Asia for tens of thousands of years. Saying anyone with dark skin is black, aka Sub-Saharan African, is a bit ignorant.

[@kalondi5722]

@@sleeexs There is a difference between African black and the ancient European black. They are not the same race.

[@philipsalama8083]

There was literally a Roman emperor named Philip the Arab. Not exactly the nickname I'd give a white emperor.

[@METALFREAK03]

An Arab can be white you know. Even though he was "dirty" olive, you are assuming all Arabs are the same.

[@cossaizy6309]

@@METALFREAK03 are olived skinned people also white? Because some just have extremely tanned skin, I thought it basically meant people with the same phenotypes, which is why ethiopian people are considered whitish. Plus yes arabs arent one large ethnic group, they are made up of tons of ethnic groups that were conquered and arabized during the early middle ages

[@JoeyRamone1993]

@@cossaizy6309 You mean like the Romans?

[@cossaizy6309]

@@JoeyRamone1993 yes nailed it like the fucking romans

[@ByddinRhyddidCymru]

Philip Salama it could’ve been an ironic thing, like calling a short person lofty, or a bald person Curley

[@cerealexperiments8189]

10:17 They really wanted people to know that this black dude was black, except for his teeth.

[@torkelsvenson6411]

20:46 Even better: telling a Pole how Poles and Germans historically share a common culture. Of course there are plenty of alt right people in Poland as well, and the original Nazis would laugh at them for suggesting that they were somehow equal. Or take Sweden and Denmark, arguably the two countries in the world that have been at war with each other the most, only topped possibly by England and France. Go back in time to Sweden in the late 1600's and talk about how they have a common culture with Denmark and prepare to get punched in the face.

[@jamesshunt5123]

The original nazis mostly adhered to some absurd idea about "ethnic purity" and in which an ethnic group was defined by which language it spoke. However as the war progressed it became obvious even these nazis were "flexible" in their beliefs because they had the idea to "Germanize" a lot of Poles and other Eastern Europeans (who looked "German" enough) by simply forcing them to speak German and never once uttering a single word in their maiden language. The idea was to wipe out an entire culture. This experiment was well under way in Poland but for some reason Americans seem to believe it's the *French* who would be speaking German had Nazi Germany won the war. How many people which the nazis would re-classify as "volksdeutsche" or "of German stock" had they won the war nobody knows but what is clear is that when the war started going increasingly worse they became a lot more lax in their definition in who could be considered "German". And some who obviously spoke a very different language like the Finns (who Swedish eugenicists btw believed to have "smaller skulls" and thus were an inferior race) became "honorary Aryans". So were the Japanese simply because they fought on the same side as Nazi Germany. This does seem peculiar since Hitler always believed the "highly numerous" people of Far East Asia as the biggest future threat to his "Germanic people" and Europe as a whole. During the war he said that he was Europe face off against the "Asian hordes" in the future but that some of his future successors would have to fight that war because he himself would probably be dead by then. Mussolini considered Hitler's nazism as "too focused on ethnicity" whereas to him a nation simply was defined by its heritage, culture and a people who believed in the *concept* of the nation. This is why there was little impetus among the Italian fascists to brand Jews (or other foreign groups) in Italy as "non-Italians". Mussolini privately mocked the idea of a "ethnically pure" Germany knowing that far too many different ethnic groups had passed and settled in the geographic location to call it homogenous - and present day gene charts proved him right. Perhaps Hitler himself subconsciously was aware of it and therefore maintained this absurd idea of some "ethnic pure state" simply defined by everybody speaking the same language. As long as most immigrants in European countries came from other European countries this idea of "national purity" remained in the minds of neo-nazis and other rabid nationalists. Basically they wanted ALL "foreigners" out. But then immigration to Europe changed. With the EU many Europeans could suddenly move around to any European country and settle there (this was one of the things the Brexiteers used to rally people behind their "cause") and suddenly Europeans had to become more tolerant towards "European foreigners". And more importantly immigration changed when people from *outside* Europe arrived to European countries. Suddenly some disgruntled people in a country had people which looked notably different to them and shared few of their values so now the hate shifted. A Pole in Germany didn't stand out as much as a Turk or Iranian. An Englishman won't notice an Irishman (even after all the hate they got following the IRA attack days of the 70's and 80's) as much as he'll notice somebody from Pakistan or India. And Sub-Saharan Africans? Well, they obviously stand out like sore thumb to rabid nationalists. This presents the present day nazis with a dilemma. They can't say "throw them ALL out" anymore because that would make them too many enemies at the same time and worse (for them) would make all "non-ethnic foreigners" join forces. On top of that a lot of European countries seem to have the same "problems" according to the fascists in their own countries. Hence today nazis have adapted a more "European" common front against "non-Europeans". This is how Europeans who have waged bloody wars against each other for many centuries have suddenly become the "best of friends" and "culturally European" (or "white" which comes from the USA where nobody says European American). Ironically all these European nazis now fight to "protect their cultural heritage" for Europe while totally forgetting and ignoring that both WWI and WWII were huge European "civil wars". Until fairly recently (in historic terms) there was no "Europe" for the nazis to praise only their own country. Among Balkan nationalists this is still very much true because little European immigration went to those countries and few "non-Europeans" are found there so there is just the "old, traditional enemy" there. The neo-nazis of Poland try to gloss over the reality of WWII by claiming that the war was a war against communism or the Jews and not against the Polish people (obviously false). Modern day neo-nazis in Germany have also grown up with a deep-rooted hate for Turks so to them the idea to eradicate Poland (still is heard every now and then) sounds like the "wrong plan". Other Polish nationalists maintain that the German nazis helped them with their Jewish problem and that they willingly helped (which surviving Jews witnessed) round them up in several cases. Poland too was becoming an increasingly nationalistic state leading up to WWII and it became important to the define what a Pole was too. Hence the German minority *was* harassed. As for the Swedes and Danes. Like you said there were so many wars between them for centuries that anybody suggesting they were "culturally the same" or "traditionally similar" would have been executed for treason by either side had anybody ever suggested something like that back in those days. When it came to giving each other pardon at war or during peace they were ruthless. Scania (formerly Danish) was invaded by Sweden sometime during the 1600's and the locals simply told to "become Swedish and speak Swedish" or be driven out. Even today the people of Scania feel like their own entity. Heck, Sweden even constructed a long artificial canal with many locks in the 1800's simply to "bypass the Danish threat" and any Danish naval blockade. While the Gota Kanal may have served trade the original reason was simply to guarantee the flow of Swedish trade without the risk of the "dangerous Danes" jeopardizing everything. Napoleon, the British Empire and Imperial Russia didn't scare the Swedes as much as the nefarious Danes. People back in those days were loyal to their kings. The concept of a nation the way present day neo-nazis define it or even the idea the fascists of WWII got misty eyed to was utterly alien. People didn't leave their towns and villages and found people from other towns or counties to be "strangers". The invention of railroads angered a lot of people at first because suddenly people from other towns(!) would swarm them - the horror! Scandinavian neo-nazis worship vikings as their "cultural ideal" and "heritage". Vikings however were a splintered entity centered around jarls who ruled different villages and felt no connection to other vikings serving other (rivaling) jarls. In the feudal world people were loyal to their vassal/land lord if they valued their lives and sought consolation in the church, back at a time Catholicism ruled Europe with an iron fist. Nationalism as a concept didn't really exist until the 1800's and by then modern inventions had made people more "traveled" around their own country. This is also why many countries began "standardizing" their spoken language. Otherwise how could the people feel they were "of the same nationality" ? Dialectal differences put some people off even today but back in the 1800's it made other people "alien". In Italy with its wide range of highly distinctive dialects (bordering on their own languages" this became a sacred quest for "national unity". Given all this history it's quite remarkable how fascists today both worship their "ancient, cultural heritage" and "being European" when their concept would be utterly alien to people of the past.

[@paulludwigewaldvonkleist4039]

@John wayne oof

[@paulludwigewaldvonkleist4039]

@John wayne add in the irish and wales and we got a full on culture war

[@deviousalemanni4235]

And yet european countries have always had a lot more incommon with each other than anybody else.

[@MattG-mw7zi]

He's upset about a black Roman soldier? He does know the Roman empire included northern Africa, right? Right?

[@unknownsoldier452]

Northern Africa, up until Islamic conquests, had a lot more in common with Hellenic Anatolia and Southern Europe. It shows itself on genetic level.

[@grapeshot]

Unknown Soldier There would have been a number of sub-Saharan Africans there also.

[@MattG-mw7zi]

2manynegativewaves Even assuming that is true (it isn't), guess where northern Africa is attached to, the countries trade and negotiate with and population intermingles with?

[@sean3874]

2manynegativewaves look up the garamantes and a ancient black Libyan mummy, also a new study came out about the Pleistocene genetic composition of Morroco which showed sub Saharan African ancestry as far back as 12000 years ago , what do you mean by North Africa was not "black" as it did have black populations I find that claim to be rather disingenuous

[@devifoxe]

North African was not black is the historical expected view that can change with new evidence. No one say it was no blacks in nort Africa the majority it was not. End Egypt have a black Pharaoh Egyptian was no black

[@lumpilumpinski9951]

As we all know that Jebus the carpenter from Jerusalem was pure white as a snowflake, because the middle east was inhabited by the Vikings at this time.

[@enfercesttout]

Yeah, paler shade of brown.

[@lumpilumpinski9951]

Yes the greek and the levante was inhabited by some albino tribesman from Oslo at this time, as we all know. Same as Egypt and South Kongo, where the whitest of the whites build the city of Wakanda, that suffered from white genocide and turned black. So sad . As we all know, its true, believe me.

[@KookiesNolly]

yeah and that's why Christianity is good, otherwise, the "identitarians" couldn't reconcile that religion and *gasp* the lack of whiteness in the people who invented it.

[@firetarrasque4667]

Your just lying at this point.

[@lumpilumpinski9951]

Nah ah! Its all true, i red it in an swedish book written by a professor. But his name is a secret, because the leftist/murxist/SJW-gender mafia under Soros will kill him as soon i reveal his identity, so its better only a few chosen are alowed to read it. But i can tell you its almost as good as the original.

[@TheWookieDavid]

As a spaniard the first thing I thought in the beginning of this video was precisely your last point. Al-Ándalus was a thing lmao

[@destinyezife174]

Yeah but the majority of its citizens were not arabs

[@TheWookieDavid]

@@destinyezife174 You're right, Al-Ándalus actually had a very varied population, lots of different ethnicities, definitely not a white country

[@destinyezife174]

@@TheWookieDavid yes but after Reconquista, Al andalus returned to christianity, the foreigners were even expelled

[@TheWookieDavid]

@@destinyezife174 I don't really remember the video that much, as you can see I commented that 5 months ago so could you explain what's your point to me to get me up to speed?

[@destinyezife174]

@@TheWookieDavid the guy asked white supremacist if they considered spanish people "white." Then he mentioned the invasion by the arabs and al-andalus. My point was that the arabs only made up a tiny percentage of the population in Spain at the time despite being the ruling class. After the recapture of al-andalus from the arabs, Christians became the state religion and the Spanish orientated themselves according to fellow european Kingdoms and not the arab world.

[@qwandary]

People always seem to ignore that Queern Victoria was part black too (her grandmother, Queen Charlotte, was black).

[@kevinbrown2438]

Ah yes, the terrible action in Cydonia against the Ice Warriors. So many brave souls lost that in those few minutes against the greatest enemy Earth has ever known. #neverforget

[@LOL-zu1zr]

Never forget the brave whitemen that defended earth on mars😢

[@SSofIreland]

"The indigenous European people" Because as we all know, Europeans are just one big, lily-white, homogeneous mass. /s "traditions and culture" I challenge this guy to name something about Irish culture that doesn't involve ceilidhs, Riverdance or the Catholic Church.

[@adriancaine5278]

The indigenous europeans are traces back to three waves of migrations that happened 4000-tens of thousands of years ago, not being homogenous compared to each other does not mean theya ren't indigenous people. Different native americans were not the same as each other, that doesn't mean they all aren't native americans, just as there being differences between european natives doesn't mean there aren't european natives

[@darryljones3009]

Europe wasn't isolated from the rest of the world by two massive oceans.

[@DemagogueBibleStudy]

Reminder that phrenologists once speculated that the Irish were actually African.

[@SSofIreland]

The Flying Dutchman And just who might "you people" be?

[@jochentram9301]

No, we don't. We are simply not willing to sweep the misdeeds of European nations under the rug any more. I'll cheerfully acknowledge African complicity in the transatlantic slave trade, just as I'll cheer the British for eventually banning the practice (and, being imperialist pricks, forcing everyone else to go along). The British banning the slave trade does nothing to excuse British behaviour in Ireland, however, or the brutality that went into creating the Raj, or going to war so that they could keep selling opium to China. Neither are we willing to accept the notion that "traditional" European culture is necessarily a good thing. For some reason, traditions that predate the late 19th century tend to get swept under the rug, like the habit of peasants to revolt every other generation. Or that "democracy", in most European nation is emphatically not traditional. Neither are civil rights.

[@cutealiens]

4 years later this video has twice as many views as the one to which it's replying, and the video to which it's replying is no longer hosted on KZbin and its owner's account has been terminated.

[@MikeYm98875]

He's not even allowed on mainstream media whatsoever , j bags must rly not like what he was saying

[@lightningfirst689]

Your point about escalation rhetoric hit hard. When I was first getting into the political discourse, that was something I noticed about PragerU videos. Whatever they were talking about at any given moment was THE MOST IMPORTANT THING they'd ever talked about. It's like a kids' show that can't calm down for even a second, because it'll lose its audience if it does.

[@PetaloudesTouYialou]

Greece too was occupied by the Ottoman Empire for 400yrs. Our vocabulary, dress, custom and cuisine was greatly influenced. There are other examples of mixed cultures such as Malta and the Balkans, but I guess us Eastern Europeans and Mediterraneans are a little too dark skinned to be of note to racists.

[@xenophon3681]

Yeah, and Greeks realised that that was A BAD THING and wanted to throw out foreign interlopers. Not really making the point you though eh genius?

[@IlovetheBMW]

@@xenophon3681 that's true. Greeks fought an independence war against the ottomans and succeded.

[@FirstnameLastname-iq9oo]

@@xenophon3681 that doesnt remove the influence of turkish culture on the greeks, southern europe and greece particularily are more culturally comparablr to the middle east or turkey or north africa, not sweden

[@xenophon3681]

@@FirstnameLastname-iq9oo The fact that all categories blur at the boundaries doesn't counter what I said, the Greeks hated the Ottomans and fought to throw them because they weren't Greeks, so it's not an argument for mass migration and allowing Europeans to be replaced in their own countries.

[@tuffy135ify]

We don't use Roman numerals around the world, but the world over recognises Arabic numerals.

[@newcenturynarratives130]

Another argument to throw their way is to ask if the Hungarians and Bulgarians count as Europeans. Both groups of people were some of the last ethnic groups to land in Europe at the end of the Migration Period after the fall of the Roman Empire. During that time they would have lived (and probably looked) more like Hunnic/Turkic tribesmen. This sort of sloppy revisionism just shows that people don't know history

[@bramsilver1212]

Why do you think that's some kinda gotcha, is my real question

[@RihannaIsIluminati]

Иван Сергей white is a meaningless concept. It has no basis in science and is entirely cultural.

[@juliat.9719]

Racial categories are crude proxies for genetic diversity. They vary from culture to culture and say little about people's full genomes

[@couchgrouches7667]

@Иван Сергей This seems to be heavily misinterpreted. Race outside of the US is often use synonymously with population, not as a taxonomic term. "Unlike the U.S. anthropologists, Polish anthropologists tend to regard race as a term without taxonomic value, often as a substitute for population. The discrepancy may stem from differences in the traditions of anthropological schools, the differing sociopolitical histories, education, semantics, and possible attitudinal factors."

[@thewisp7447]

You forgot the Sami people in your comment

[@annaarkless5822]

the victorian soldiers on mars thing fucking sent me lmfaooo

[@xxbatflowerxx]

"Regency"- titled after the Prince Regent. "Victorian"- titled after Queen Victoria. "Elizebethan" - (rusittingdown?) titled after Queen Elizebeth I.

[@Elsenoromniano]

I particular pet peeve of me is how people try to shoehorn today's view of race and "whiteness" in Medieval Europe. In Medieval Europe race as we understand it was not really a thing, yet they noted that people had different skin tones, but they weren't bothered a lot by it. What really, really mattered was religion, white muslim albanians or a pagan lithuanians were certainly less "pure" and "bestial" than, for example black but christian ethiopians or the black gondoliers of venice. My favourite Arthurian novel is pretty telling in that regard, Parzival (the German one, not the French one). In it there is character named Feirefiz, who is the half-brother of Parzival and a knight himself of equal ability. He is literally half white and half black because his mother was a black Queen (no I don't mean of mixed race, I mean, literally, like a cow or a magpipe). The detail of his very extravagant skin is mentioned just as a curiosity, he is described as very honourable man (in a duel with Parzival, he surrenders becase Parzival broke his sword and he didn't want to fight an unarmed man), a great knight and pretty handsome lad. He also then converts to Christianity (he was sarracen but also adored Jupiter, yes medieval ideas about some things were kind of crazy) to be able to marry one of the female caretakers of the Grial, they go to the east, preach Christianity and gave birth to Prester John. Also the mother of Ferifiz, Belakane, is described also as a very tendered, cult woman, and in general what it would be called a "fair maiden". It is true that Eschenbach was kind of ahead of his time, but not so much because of the depiction of black people, but for the intriguing (for the time) idea that "hey, maybe not all pagans and muslims are inherently bad people".

[@alixmordant489]

Interesting. Thanks.

[@JoseSanchez-sd2nv]

Our modern interpretation of race has it roots in spain during the 14th and 15th century. Spain (not really spain, but iberian peninsula) was ruled by muslims and had a significant Jewish population. The reconquista was slow, but newly conquered Jews converted to avoid taxes and persecution. Jews that converted were called conversos and a lot them gained prominent roles in government and the Church. A lot of Spaniards (iberian Christians) were upset that conversos were getting the good jobs. Then rules and laws were created to protect true blooded Christians. The inquisition would go village to village to inquire about a persons heritage to see if they had Jewish blood. Pure Blood or sangre limpia became a status symbol in spain. For the first time in history, at least recorded history, antisemitism emerges, as oppose to racism against someones religion. This would continue into the new world. Jews and conversos were not allowed to travel to Mexico, but some were able get there. The Spaniards would create a caste system based on race, as oppose to religion or class. By law race mattered in the Spanish Empire, but that wouldn't stop people from fucking. There were a lot of mixed people in colonial Mexico.

[@Elsenoromniano]

The book is Parzival from Wolfang from Eschenbach (a german minnesager, or minstrel). If you like medieval literature is one of the best medieval arthurian poems that exist, certainly the best in german (although Tristan and Isolde de Gottfried von Strassburg comes very close, and personally I like it more because it is way more revolutionary for it's time, very anticlergy, pro-love whatever form it takes, against imposed social norms).

[@Scoring57]

Elsenoromniano Lol, that guy at 10:20 sounded bothered by it And so did he 7:04 When the majority of people around you look a certain way and there's one guy that stands out, I can see that having an affect on a person and making them notice that difference more. But I don't know, still sounds like white people have a problem though. It wasn't racism, but it was something.

[@Elsenoromniano]

In the second example ast 10:20, it's just a description, maybe you are reading too much into it, in the first, you might infer that from "ominous colour", but, that has most to do with roman symbolism regarding the colour black, since it was the colour of death and mourning, that's why he also mentions the garland, also associated with death and mourning. The association of death and black had nothing to do with black people and they weren't discriminated because of that (in the example the soldier joked to the emperor as to say, you are a god, you don't need to be superstitious and nothing happened to him). And yes people with differences always drew the attention, but in the Medieval Era people weren't bothered by it, they just found it exotic. As I say discrimination was more done on a religious basis as well sometimes in a ethnical basis.

[@shinjinobrave]

4:49 We have to band together as white people and stand in a wheat field. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. IT'S. A. GODDAMN. WHEATFIELD.

[@Healermain15]

Because nothing says "European culture" like a popular American vegetable!

[@allisondoak9425]

sander heutink a popular North American vegetable that indigenous people had to teach the Europeans how to farm and which the Europeans took and bred out much of the diverse nutrients of the wide variety cultivated by indigenous North Americans.

[@julio1116]

Everyone knows we use wheatfields :((((((

[@kuroshthegreat8073]

thats wheat nimrod

[@julio1116]

Tfw urban guy thinks that wheat is corn what a surprise

[@RashidMBey]

10:12 Was Morien black? I couldn't really get a read on it with how obscure the description was.

[@IEXECUTIVE]

Yes he was. Read Golden age of the Moor.

[@davidtaylor142]

Yeah I'm skeptical. Description was super vague about color

[@LemanH8r1000]

I think it’s important to remember that our current understanding of whiteness is drastically different from the past. If you asked someone from the 1800’s if I was white, they would say no because I have Scottish ancestry.

[@mrjimmbo]

Even Britain itself was made up of 5 kingdoms before Willie came over from France

[@mikuhatsunegoshujin]

Anglos to the sea.

[@captain_swaggin4065]

2manynegativewaves Nigeria didn’t exist at the time

[@tibbygaycat]

2manynegativewaves ....no dumbass, there was like Westumbria and others. Just look at Wikipedia

[@Sealionborn]

Wessex, Mercia, Northumbria, East Anglia, Kent, Gwynedd, Powys, Cornwall, Strathclyde, Alba and a bunch more i can't remember off the top off my head.

[@kevincrady2831]

Conan263, only in modern retrospect. The Angles, Saxons, Welsh, Normans, Scots, Picts, Celts, etc., etc. were all too happy to massacre each other over ethnic and tribal differences. They did not see themselves as belonging to a single "white" race or culture. Heck, there are writings by Ben Franklin fretting over the threat presented by all the "swarthy Germans" immigrating into America in the 1700's. "Whiteness" is a modern concept of fairly recent origin.

[@md8955]

Whenever I see Nick Griffin's multiple chins I think, "Master Race".

[@jeremiasastorga8399]

Uncle Bunk Another settlement needs his help

[@Xenophage100]

I can't believe that the fact that there were Roman citizens of African descent (or just straight up from Africa) is up for debate. There were LOTS of them. Scipio (He's called Scipio AFRICANUS, by the way) had entire cohorts of locally drafted soldiers from northern Africa. Egyptians and Scythians fought in the Germanic Wars as auxiliaries in the legion. Then do you know what happened? Some of them stayed. They settled. They were awarded tracts of land for their service and they started families. African people were DEFINITELY present wherever the Roman Legion was and some of the people who think that they didn't exist may be descended from them.

[@Oxtocoatl13]

I don't want to dispute your point in any way since you're absolutely right, but just to nitpick: Scipio Africanus got the nickname because of successful campaigns in Africa (he kicked Hannibal's butt at Zama). But Scipio himself was not from Africa, as in his time, North Africa hadn't yet been conquered.

[@Xenophage100]

@@Oxtocoatl13 You're right... the way I worded it makes it sound like he was African. I should have specified that while much of his army was African, he was not.

[@trugrit7210]

Africa is a continent. African is not a race. It's one thing to say there were Africans (Caucasoids from North Africa) and it's another to say they were Black.

[@johnyoung4441]

@@trugrit7210 So with that logic, Asians are not Asian because there are multiple ethnicities in Asia. Europeans are not European because there are multiple European ethnicities, right?

[@slome815]

@Victor Mace Well you are wrong. If you look at egyptian art from 2500BC-300BC you will see they always depict themselfs as brown, while the Nubians are depicted as black. Even then north africans were not black.

[@torylva]

About the mention of Spain, I'd love to add this. South-eastern europe has historically been pretty divided in terms of "race" and culture. The ottomans, the greek empire under Alexander. Additionally, have these people SEEN north-africans and people from around the mediterranean? I mean, a guy I know from Libya looks about as white as a another one I know in Corsica, who are still as white as some north-italians I've met. It is almost as if mediterranean cultures and "races" have intermingled for as long as we have had ships, and they in turn have intermingled with the rest of europe. Hell, there is historically been quite a few arabs and black people living in Scandinavia since trading in the middle east during the viking age.

[@deviousalemanni4235]

When you say quite a few just remember it is still not in any significant numbers. Population wise atleast.

[@natesmodelsdoodles5403]

Speaking of Vikings, they made it all the way to the Mediterranean.

[@LetsAllDrinkToTheDeathOfAClown]

No Arabs or sub-Saharan Africans were living in Scandinavia during the Viking Age. Do you believe everything that comes through your television?

[@torylva]

@@LetsAllDrinkToTheDeathOfAClown Considering that there were brisk trades between the vikings and the people of northern africa, often following raids along the way... And slave trade was one important trade that flourished from northern africa. And that vikings were not unheard of living in areas surrounding the mediterranean sea (Such as Varangian Guard, often being mercenaries) Yes, I would suspect arabic and sub-saharan africans to have lived in Scandinavia, if briefly on trading visits, as slaves, or as travellers. Don't have to watch TV for info if you have rudimentary understanding of history and basic skills in deductive reasoning.

[@LetsAllDrinkToTheDeathOfAClown]

@@torylva obviously there could have been the odd slave or trader living in Scandinavia however the traitorous governments of Scandinavia, the mass media and yourself make it out like Scandinavia was just like Stockholm is today in regards to racial diversity. Also sub-Saharan blacks would have been pretty rare even in North Africa during the Viking Age. And I'm well aware of the Vikings and other Germanics presence in the Mediterranean. You had the Vandals living in North Africa, fighting with the Byzantines until the Arabs came and drove them both out and/or slaughtered them all. The Normans were in Sicily and in Southern Italy etc etc.

[@KingsandGenerals]

I guess, the answer is that there are two Wests. This duality will need to be resolved for the world to move forward and for the West to still be on the forefront of the humanity. Are you legally allowed to release two videos per month?

[@bassplayer8815]

Kings And Generals isnt as good as Emperor Tigerstar

[@khornedmaple]

Bass Player Kinda rude, dude.

[@africanuss.p.q.r8120]

Western is the best civilization, and alt-right wants to destroy it

[@ronlynquist9183]

Why is or should it be at the forefront of humanity? It's just as good or bad as the rest human culture.

[@africanuss.p.q.r8120]

Ron Lynquist Not, for example, Islam has no tolerance or respect for other cultures or religions, they are misoginistic and homophobes, a lot if times racists and ultra conservatives.

[@turevedin9968]

There's also an artsy side of it in theater especially. I.e. "what if we do this famous play but switch the gender/race of the characters". To sort of explore how that would affect the story And since most plays feature white people it's more common to switch a white person with another ethicity

[@michellejames2447]

When I was in college they would sometimes cast race blind just so they could use me if I auditioned well. It may be as simple as someone Black being in the company, and that person being the best person for a part that is usually played by a white person. Not everything is political or "edgy."

[@MrCMread]

"But I want all my characters to look the same!!!!"

[@coleminton5204]

So does that mean that African history isn't a part of black history?

[@coleminton5204]

@Meier Bram so following the same logic, is African history irrelevant to African Americans?

[@user-co9lc7oq7c]

Moanika Lowinski Blacks have not contributed to european history. But black people have existed in almost every ancient empire.

[@coleminton5204]

@@user-co9lc7oq7c when did I mention European history and blacks? I was speaking on African history. Two completely different contenints.

[@sealandbaron9447]

Moanika Lowinski Not exclusively black. Just like European history is not exclusively white. The point of the video is not to point out the presence of other races in Europe but rather show the cultural distinction between ethnically white groups. It's kind of in bad faith to throw all people living in Africa into one giant monolithic concept to be honest. We have Arabs in the north, of whom there are multiple cultural and ethnical subgroups. We have "Black" Africa, where we have multiple cultural, religious and ethnical enclaves that differentiate drastically from each other. There are even places in Africa where mixed Polynesian-Africa live So yeah, TL;DR: It's not very wise to assign races to their own vague geographical concepts. The British have tried to do that during colonisation and it didn't go very well

[@nepwrath]

As a fan of Once Upon a Time, I'd also point out the show explicitly addresses that different countries and cultures have slightly different versions of the same story who are sometimes different races and ethnicities and all these versions exist. For example, there are two versions of Cinderella, one early on who is more the standard version you see in the anglo-sphere, and another version who is a main character in the final season and is latina. So the complaint about Lancelot makes even less sense.

[@KookiesNolly]

or maybe the "identitarians" haven't found out about that... yet

[@yltraviole]

Huh, that's a pretty interesting concept

[@agilemind6241]

That reminds me of the Basilica of Annunciation where they have depictions of Mary from around the world - so there are black Marys, Asian Marys even a slightly terrifying steel-Mary.

[@yltraviole]

Agilemind Ah, anticipating for the robot uprising, I guess?

[@d.rabbitwhite]

As I understand from my readings, Cinderella is one of the oldest story lines. There have been Chinese versions, male versions,... nearly every culture (that have shared stories with greater world) has a similar story.

"White" isn't a race or ethnicity, it's a tick box on US and old South African paperwork.

[@lostinthewoods2201]

Eeerm that can be said of every skin Tone tho. It's all just shades of colour and people dissagreing on where to draw the lines

[@lostinthewoods2201]

@@mtcicero7437 Why though? What about the "White identity?" disgruntels you? Tell me the character trait that role would entail. Just to see of web agree om the definitions going forward.

[@Jotari]

Really, are Caucasians even white? Paper is white. Satin is white. Albinos are white. But Caucasians? We're more of a muddy kind of beige.

[@bigtiddyhimbo]

@@lostinthewoods2201 It's just very generic, it is the same here in the UK and I wouldn't feel comfortable just ticking "white", from a cultural sense it feels inappropriate. I don't see myself as white, I see myself as Scottish first. Anyone can become Scottish, share our cultural traditions, ideas and beliefs (e.g. our respect and desire to defend nature and pursue scientific interests.) Ticking I'm "white" only shows what I've been born as, not what I represent. We have White - Scottish, Indian - Scottish, Chinese - Scottish, Black/Caribbean - Scottish, Arab - Scottish etc.

[@ProgressiveConservative]

That’s a Talmudic trick, just like how they say “oh palestinians don’t exist, what are they? Egyptians? Jordanians?” Europeans, aka whites are a clear race that stretches from Britain to turkey and Russia don’t try and erase us from history like you try to erase the Palestinians.

[@taimatsuko]

Mark Collet watching “Hamilton” 🤯

[@soaringgrasslands3148]

as he should. its blatant blackwashing.

[@aethelredtheready1739]

I wonder what he thinks of Slavs.