Eve Online | Should you play? | Eve Online Vs Elite Dangerous

[@Mark_o_Helm]

Differences from a Explorer perspective Elite dangerous vs. Eve Online ED: you are the pilot😊 EVE: you are the navigator🙄 ED: the loss of your ship means the loss of all your not delivered exploration data 😓 ED: the loss of your ship means the loss of the ship😑 Elite dangerous: 0.1% of the map has been discovered😲 Eve online: 100% of the map has been discovered multiple times😕 Elite dangerous: you can make a lot of money as an Explorer. About 1.5 billion credits for me so far.🤗 Eve online: ? 😁 Bonus in ED: systems that you discover first get your name stamped all over it.😍😍😍😍😍 Btw. I quit Eve after 6 years because my home system with all my stuff was flipped by the Triglavian invasion from 0.5 to -1.0. That gave me the opportunity to play Elite dangerous, which waited for me on my PC for about two years. And i never looked back.😊

[@duxbellorumdraconis]

Main difference is, in Elite Dangerous it's easy to make money so you don't really need it. In EvE, they employ an actual economist to keep an eye on things and money is really REALLY important, so how fast you make it makes a big difference as to what you can do in-game.

[@kra4is]

he said yes, thank me later

[@Sorarse]

Nice introduction, though there are a couple of small inaccuracies - understandable as you haven't been playing long. In low sec, Concord won't come to your aid. The only assistance is from gate guns or station guns if you get attacked in the vicinity of either of those. In nul sec there is no Concord at all. It's the wild, wild west and anything goes. You didn't mention wormholes, areas which can provide great rewards, but at great risk. Two things to remember when playing Eve : only fly what you can afford to lose, and if you are trying to make ISK, generally the greater the reward, the greater the risk.

[@markoos88]

The only time Elite Dangerous is called "user friendly" is when comparing it to EVE Online. 😂

[@davehoffman515]

I played for years, got the golden old, and just didn't have time for a second job anymore. I love the art and world but to make real isk you need a group that is on when you are ready to play. I spent hours in wormhole space waiting for a big enough fleet to form and take on the pve content. I spent so much time probing out wormholes and sites that I didn't get to run due to a lack of fleet members. Same happened in null only to have the front line move while I worked so I spent that next night moving to the next staging area instead of playing. The most instant action I could get was faction warfare in low sec but it was a big money sink too when I lost my logistics ship or a run goes poorly. I eventually floated back up to high sec to run missions solo and incursions with my now limited game time but that gets old fast. I left right before the free to play change happened. I miss it but I can't go back.

[@Valdis63]

As I have played eve for years and just started playing elite tell me why I should play elite lol cuz im not seeing a reason to over eve

[@patraic5241]

If you like solo play Elite Dangerous is probably for you. If you like cooperative play it's EVE.

[@ickebins6948]

I play EVE Solo and have a lot more fun then Elite Dangerous has ever given me...

[@dom_mob2668]

CCP should bring back "Captain's Quarters" and actually do something with it, instead of letting it die like before. This game is great, and despite probably being the best space MMO out there right now, this game can still be better.

[@sasuce52]

Even if you are just paying ISK for your ships in eve that ship has an equivalent value in USD. 1.5b ISK Is roughly equivalent to 15 USD.

[@1over137]

Don't be fooled by the "director" nature of the ship manoeuvring. "Manually piloting" is required for the higher end of combat. There is a "manual" mode, but most people mean "clicking in space", aligning to tactical things, controlling range, controlling traversal. Honestly though, I wish Eve online some how incorporated the ED "hands on" dogfighting combat style.

[@FuaConsternation]

11:00 he's trying to press Q when his active window is a chat bar, probably why it's not working. btw, it's a two part command where you choose a horizontal location (azimuth) and then you choose the vertical angle, before the command is complete....fyi, you can also double click anywhere in space and your ship will fly in that direction (it won't be a "point and click" experience though since its going infinitely in one direction) pvpers are mostly experienced in exploiting the latter system over a n00b's default "point and click" choices like a default "orbit" or "keep at range"

[@sebastiant5789]

did you just seriously. call clicking in space exploiting.

[@FuaConsternation]

@@sebastiant5789 sorry, is English your second language? no offense intended, it just seemed you took that wildly out of context.

[@sebastiant5789]

@@FuaConsternation pvpers are mostly experienced in exploiting the latter system over a n00b's default "point and click" choices like a default "orbit" or "keep at range" your own words dog.

[@FuaConsternation]

@@sebastiant5789 you know, for a minute there i thought you were rewording that, like you thought you were being helpful. nope. just a troll. lol

[@sebastiant5789]

@@FuaConsternation HUE HUE

[@MrKennix]

You said at 1:40 that you can't buy ships in Star Citizen with in-game money. After buying a starter package (around $45) to get access to the Persistent Universe, you can indeed buy most ships currently available in game with in-game currency.

[@zielliger]

Star Citizen is also not a complete game, and possibly won't EVER be a complete game.

[@ickebins6948]

Still amazed that people still defend SC after all those years of empty promises.

[@jaybirdjargon]

Buy ships, lose ships with wipe; grind up credits again; lose credits AND ships with wipe. Quit game. Go to something better.

[@Mannerdetructiveness-gk5do]

Elite dangerous , you choose your danger and you pilot the ship . Eve online , it's not an option . Or simply meant , if you're getting abuse around Stargate , there is nothing stopping them to do it again or for you to avoid it . Why ? Small map and you don't have super cruise.

[@lukasdontknow7194]

You can buy plex with real money and sell it for isk. So yeah you can buy ships for real life money and a lot of people nowadays does.. sadly.

[@fodemhousegaming]

I was an Elite Dangerous console player... Thinking about starting in Eve Online right now, but you know... Spend so much time in a 2003 already full game, it scares me.... Another thing is that It will never come to consoles anyway... Eve echoes is newer and its mobile, decisions, decisions...

[@HUNZY-qo3cv]

EVE Don’t be intimidated by older players. any ship in the game is deadly even in the hands of a well trained nube. Dive in and have fun don’t be afraid to interact, ask questions, find a crew, loose ships again have fun.

[@kailenmitchell8571]

Your reasons for excitement for Eve is why I left. Elite Dangerous sounds like the game I'm really interested

[@jetlagged3645]

IMO elite is great for a hundred hours or so then you start noticing how repetitive and stagnant it is, as well as most of the game breaking for a year or so every time the devs put out a minor update.

[@CHMPro]

The economy right now is so bad in eve you gonna have to buy plex which converts into isk to get anything. It's expensive as ever now for anything in eve. I'm already taking a vacation from this until it's fixed.

[@FuaConsternation]

12:30 in low sec the only police are static guns next to stargates/stations, and those are easily cheesed by pvpers (u just warp off to a 'ping' and back while your wingman keeps the target locked down)

[@blastingweevil2968]

for me Eve Online i dont have 5+ years to invest to get anywhere and Elite Dangerous have Ruined the U.I and therefor the game since it is a space Exploration game and you now have to make 10+ mouse clicks to plot a route now... since oddysey update.

[@FuaConsternation]

you're at the stage where you do something fun, and risky, thinking it's profitable. which is cool. sadly, ccp has never addressed that core component of gameplay (it's like they've never played the game for real) and those "11 jumps" to and fro just killed your profit right there and then. you'd have been better off finding a system that has mostly dense veldspar (instead of basic & concentrated) asteroids in all its asteroid belts, on paper. actually, knowing how to blitz mining missions, for a solo player, is also profitable. but, i'd be curious as to how you went about it. gas mining in a venture...did you use a hauler to transport the gas, leaving the venture there?

[@thetryhardgamer8387]

No, all you need are "gas scoops" on a venture to then grab and store the gas.

[@addis504]

wrong on star citizen, pretty much all it’s flyable ships can be bought in game. Eve is enjoyable and fleet battles is great. but it’s character skill mechanics are useless time syncs just to waste ur time micromanaging and does nothing but time gate. It will take months of skill point training to be effective pvper especially solo

[@ickebins6948]

It takes alot more time to be a "effective" pvper then the training time for the skills... Right now its laughable, when 6 month old toons want to pvp in a battleship... They might have the skills learned but they dont have the experience they need...

[@Alorand]

I've tried getting into Eve Online 5-6 times, and every time bounced off of the clunky user interface. I want to like this game, but I don't think I have the time to properly get into it any more...

[@SlimThrull]

Yeah.... I played EVE for quite a few years (mostly off and on). The UI, by today's standards, is quite clunky. But on the other hand, if you can get by the UI, you might find you really enjoy the game. It certainly isn't for everyone, but the people that stick through the rougher/older edges of the game enjoy it enough.

[@FuaConsternation]

so initially you and yours had the concept of eve online being like Star Citizen, just not vapourware. For myself, i also mocked eve online back in 2003, since me and mine would talk about its "point and click" gameplay.

[@jjlm7345]

WHAT A GREAT VIDEO 👍

[@jimjones6960]

Video could've been 3 minutes 27 seconds long if he didn't talk so slowly :/

[@YupSsBlAzin17]

Does elite have massive thousands player battles ?

[@lucaspollidopezzutti6929]

I'm in the no secs point of my life

[@f1re_w1re67]

This guys doesnt fully know what hes talking about

[@richvandervecken3954]

I disagree, EVE online devs are a bunch of control freak sadist's who enjoy causing pain to the player base! What do I mean by that? I spent 14 years playing EVE and saw many times how the devs would weasel control over the most powerful 0.0 alliance just to harass the player base. Then they added the NPC super alien invaders, they had one the Triglavians that are still harasing empire space. Empire space is supposed to be the safest space in the game where concord protect's you. Well the dev's keep tweeking things in the game to make it possible and in most cases probable that you will get attacked on your journey from point A to point B. NPC pirates in EVE are called rats and the 0.0 rats are much more powerful than the empire rats. EVE dev's added these random pirate strongholds that would drop 0.0 rats onto you in empire, complete BS just to harass the player base in empire. They sell the game on their website as being open to all play styles but that is a lie. The only play style that they support fully is if you are a greifer that gets your kick's out of going around in gank squads where you out number the other player or players by a 4 to 1 margin or greater. They make sure that a player can always fit a destroyer class ship that cost maybe 6 million credits to outfit that is fully capable of destroying a several hundred million credit mining ship solo in the highest empire space before concord shows up. The gankers in EVE were bad enough but when they added the 0.0 pirates to empire space with the strongholds and the Triglavians both of which will hunt you down and podkill you, so you loose your implants as well as your ship. Implants alone can run you billions of credits to replace. I got sick and tired of the dam dev's constantly harrasing me just because my prefered game style play was to mine in peace! So if you want to build up resources in peace and just be left alone play Elite Dangerous instead! If you like having to deal with loosing everything you own every time you leave a station to either a player based gank squad or a random Pirate Stronghold drop or a Triglavian kill squad, play EVE! Oh yea, Eve online claims to be free to play, but a free to play player is only good as cannon foder for the npc rats even in empire space because you cannot fit the best ships, guns, and modules.

[@TheCephalus]

troll, no way that you played EvE for 14 years. I would know who you are if that was true, its a one single shard world after all. The dev's do what they do so that the game does not stagnate, the game core is the living player driven economy, and guess what happens when everyone just sits safe and horde their ISK ? the economy dies and that hurts all players.

[@fenriders7008]

@@TheCephalus I’ve played for 15 going on 16 years soon, I don’t know who the fuck you are… do you really play eve? It’s a single shard universe after all. Though I agree with your second point, the risks of being ‘ganked’ by rats just means pilots need to learn better techniques for safer travel. Triglav and edencom ganks are entirely avoidable by killing a single drone in pochven to gain neutral or above with both factions.

[@TheCephalus]

@@fenriders7008 I am not saying that all old timers are supposed to know everyone. But my job has been alliance counter intelligence since 2005, knowing people is my job and this guy is a troll ;)

[@richvandervecken3954]

@@TheCephalus I quit playing Eve Online in 2019. I left 0.0 space in 2008 and never went back.

[@richvandervecken3954]

@@TheCephalus I was not in an alliance after 2008 because the moron who ran our alliance "PURE" called me a spy for making Him look bad. The idiot left our home space defenseless to fight in Razor alliance space and I called Him out on what a stupid move that was!