Should You play Elite Dangerous in 2024?

[@LuStrangerIV]

My friend asked me to play Elite with him when it came out. Apparently, I had logged about 80 hours, but stepped away due to not having the adequate time to really immerse in the world... 3 years ago, I got it for another pal and we messed around for about a week, but ended up not diving in... Now, in 2024, My kid graduated from college and I've found the time. I've only got about 700 hrs into it and I am Blown Away by the Scope of this Experience. I also have Star Citizen, but Elite just Feels Complete... Out in The Black is Serene and Beautiful to Behold. Cheers, Commanders!

[@zacharypump5910]

Star Citizen has better graphics and ship interiors… but that novelty wears off quick because it’s an agonizingly bad experience to play still. Elite combat feels so much better and polished, along with a ton of other activities that just work like a finished game is supposed to work :). One day SC will probably be better, I my guess is that’s still multiple years away (even though they claim 1.0 soon.. but I have my doubts)

[@adamleblanc5294]

@@zacharypump5910 I just tried the free fly for Star Citizen. One of my biggest gripes is something that can't be fixed. It's the size of the station and having everything be something you need to go physically interact with in the world. It's a cool concept, and nice to have some variety but wears thin really quickly. You basically need an entire game session to prepare for a game session. There is no real game play value added by having so many of the support systems (shopping, loading cargo, etc) trying to be "as real as possible". It just makes it take longer to get to the things that you actually want to be doing.

[@NotForHire42]

I bought back in 2014 and barely played it. I just thought about it today and went back in, I have a whopping 254,0000 credits lol I don't know what else I have as I can't remember how to play at all but I'm guessing close to sod all in the grand scheme of things. Edit: I have a Viper MK4 in my storage apparently and I'm currently in a Sidewinder. That's about it for everything I own. I didn't get far.

[@tennis2xl]

@@NotForHire42 one game changing thing I found when going back was the ability to have your stuff sent to the station where you are so you don't have to fly 20 jumps to get to a different ship only to jump back to where you want to actually play.

[@freddie7597]

I really adore this game for the Background Simulation and Power Play. I love the idea of being part of something bigger, even if in reality it's maybe not that big of a deal as I like to make out. Really looking forward to the PowerPlay Overhaul they are releasing later this year.

[@fiveninegaming]

Elite Dangerous in VR is mind-blowing. Watching an asteroid explode or just passing by a star up close will keep you in the game for hours if you can stand the discomfort of the headset after all that time 😅

[@cmdrls212]

what's mind blowing is what happens in fps mode in VR. ;)

[@ShinigamiGrin]

​@@cmdrls212nobody cares about that, he is right, ED in VR is absolutely gorgeous.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I never even thought about this! I feel like it would be sweet but frameshift drive might give me motion sickness lol

[@cmdrls212]

@@ShinigamiGrin the game doesn't work in VR in half a mode. That's a huge deal :)

[@ShinigamiGrin]

@@cmdrls212 Maybe for you, for whatever reason. A lot of people couldn't care less about onfoot activities and still play horizon. A lot of people haven't even purchased odissey.

[@rempha]

It’s actually a third type of mining, the sub-surface drilling. Very nice summary of the game for new players.

[@jellowiggler]

Still the best online space game available. Jump in, starting learning it, it can keep you busy for years.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Is mining still the best for making money? I heard they kinda nerfed it.

[@ShinigamiGrin]

​@@CapnCrunchESO-I'd say best is currently the thargoid spire sites, by far. Not the easiest to get into though- (this has been fixed) Mining is fine, especially if you like a relaxed way of doing it (at least the classic laser mining, the deep core mining requires more attention and activity). You want to research what is best to mine for profit though.

[@wstavis3135]

​@CapnCrunchESO mining is good, combat is good, the thargoid war is good, bounty hunting is good, xenobiology is borderline ridiculously good if you apply yourself. All of the ways are more balanced now it seems. New mechanics coming on the BGS and Power Play which will see changes there and may open new avenues of income. The Thargoid war had a couple of ridiculous mechanics that made insane money possible which have finally been properly nerfed whereas other aspects of Thargoid combat have been buffed.

[@impeace1012]

So this is the right time to buy the game huhu ​@@wstavis3135

[@adamleblanc5294]

​@@CapnCrunchESO There are lots of good ways to make money. You can become a billionaire 100x over doing any of the in-game career paths. Some of the ways give more dollars per hour, but at the scale you get to once you start gearing up, it really doesn't matter anymore. Exploration, biology, mining, all the different space combat options, trading, playing politics, and even the on-foot missions can earn you more money than you actually need. If you do things in the game that you find fun, instead of just focusing on making numbers go up, you will still get rich. Maybe slightly faster or slightly slower, depending on the activity, but you will get rich anyways.

[@drmatarkin2100]

Dang! I just got back and love it even more now!!! I like combat with the VR headset the most.

[@richvandervecken3954]

I have played Elite dangerous for almost 8500 hours and have achieved elite rank in 4 different areas so far working on the Mercenary category now. I enjoy the challenge that each area has given me so far. Started playing in 2017 and played for a year or more mostly core mining the exploding ice core method and when they greatly reduced the payouts of mining it pissed me off so bad that I played No Man's Sky for a year instead. I stopped playing No Man's Sky because of maxing out at the 4 billion credit limit that they have which greatly reduce my motivation to play their game. Elite Dangerous has basically unlimited play for 20 dollars U.S. at the moment. When you have become Elite in all categories at that point you can take on the challenge of finding everything listed in the CODEX which should keep you busy for at least a year or two.

[@Frontier2022]

I played it 40 years ago on my Commodore 128. Just downloaded it on a Asus Rog Ally for traveling. Difference other than Im a Grandfather now is the graphics have improved.

[@WeirdAmerica219]

Just got my pc 7 days ago. Downloaded star citizen and joined the discord and met some great people whom I play with. The bugs and jank turned me away but I still hop on to help my friends enjoy their time with it. We usually get laughs out of the experience but in the back of my mind I would never spend money to continue to play it after free flight is over. It’s just not that good. They’ll never finish the game because they make a lot of money with the incomplete version and that’s ok because that’s their prerogative. Bought elite dangerous for 10 bucks on sale and absolutely fell in love with it. Better tutorial better AI and better combat. And I don’t need multiple people to have fun on it. Also way less bugs. So I spent money on it because it is very much a great game. I do wish elite had a food and thirst mechanic and that I can fly my ship in a better 3rd person mode and I do wish ground combat had leaning but those are just personal things. Other then that I say elite outclasses star citizen in many ways…… thank you

[@larrydlam]

My all time favorite game.

[@dantesinferno7350]

Only Open, pirates and ganking are some of the best interactions in the game, lots of friends made through these two events!

[@CapnCrunchESO]

How often do you get attacked by other players?

[@TheDeadgedd]

Piracy and ganking are the reason the majority of players are not in open I havent played in a long time but stopped playing in open and would not if i returned There are zero reasons for a non combat player to play in open

[@ShinigamiGrin]

​@@TheDeadgeddI feel you, the real problem are the terrorists (what you call gankers) and some stupid pirates who ruin the business for eveyone else. I do pirate a lot and most of the time I only request a couple of tons. It's just for the fun of the activity more than to make a profit. A couple times I ended up giving back to newbie cmdrs. Anyway yeah, I realise it can be annoying for many people, so no hard feeling for those who decide to stay in solo mode.

[@dantesinferno7350]

@@TheDeadgedd And that is the problem. That attitude. Some of the best encounters ever are pirates, it is just fun! Ganking I get, but many of my best friends in the game now are people who ganked me years ago. They always contacted me after and talked about how to avoid ganking in future, ship build etc etc. I joined their Discords and presto community. What you are taking about is not wanting to actually interact with people in game. I respect that, but it seems weird to me when the opportunity to make friends and community are to play in open. man it makes me so sad you are missing out on the best parts of the game. making connections. In the end everyone deserves to play what they enjoy, and how they enjoy!

[@TheDeadgedd]

@@dantesinferno7350 I primarily played on a invite only server that outlaws any pvp there where plenty of other players on the server you could call it a co-op server i suppose Mobius server had connections and interactions just no pvp engineered ships had them for years never flew a direct path to station been chased through multiple systems goddam wake scanners I am not interested in ship to ship combat at all so Mobius is the answer for players like me

[@thetennessee]

Just started watching, but I had to say, the first 30 seconds opener gave me the chills. Really good way to start a video!

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Appreciate it! I was pretty proud of the intro after I made it lol 😂

[@cinchmccoy]

ONE OF THE BEST GAMES EVER MADE IMO!!!!

[@WiseOwl_1408]

That is why no one talks about it

[@kingofslimes255]

I picked it up again this year, and I've really enjoyed it so far, especially the exploration aspect. Definitely worth it if you out in the time to learn the controls I'd say

[@tonyMosh]

Played many space games and sadly there isnt a great deal. I think elite is an awsome game i just wish it was still developed for console but for the price of $38 with the expansion you cant complain.

[@zachb1706]

Sound design in this game is phenomenal, I also love the flight model.

[@xXE4GLEyEXx]

Before watching the video I have to comment :p And the answer is YES! This game in VR is awesome, I play Solo only, I don't care about encountering players, so running around, exploring both in VR and on the Steam Deck... I just love the game for what it is. Not grinding, not engineering, just running around and enjoying the 'Cog in the machine' feel in the game. I took a break after Odyssey originally launched. And now being back, I truly enjoy this thing. Take it slow, let it immerse you into it's world and you'll enjoy your time in it :)

[@octanejimmy]

Do you play in VR still and if you do, how do you deal with ground? Do you flip your Headset off or leave it on?

[@xXE4GLEyEXx]

@octanejimmy I stay in VR, the grey box screen is big enough not to be overly annoying (gotta apply some cope of course) tho you can glitch yourself into the camera tool (guides on KZbin) and you can be in full VR as well, of course with a bit of a limited control remaining over your character. So yeah, I personally stay in VR and either just stay on the flat screen mode for the shorter time I run around on foot or glitch into the camera tool if I am just walking about.

[@octanejimmy]

@@xXE4GLEyEXx thanks for the reply. I may give it another shot. I do miss Elite from time to time.

[@jimyohe100]

Does this game force you to purchase (with real money) upgrades, or is there a monthly subscription to play it?

[@CapnCrunchESO]

its pay to play, there isnt a subscription

[@spookz7128]

Just spent a couple days trying to get back into it but nope. Spent 20 minutes with a thargoid with a billion dollar max grind cutter and did no damage at all with all the Zeno weapons I could cram on the ship. Soooo grinding on to suits and weapons only to get srv (military grade supposably) destroyed by marines on foot because of horrible lazer accuracy . They got me. Spent more money probably the last time on a still broken grindy mess

[@JamesW81]

Does anyone know any resource sites? I've not played in a couple of years and it appears that EDDB is gone :(

[@b1bmsgt]

Yes.👍🏻

[@scottbytes8181]

ED is great in so many ways, but the decision to adhere to "realistic" space travel physics still results in catastrophically long travel times - and that's always been the Achilles heel of this game. New players logging in, taking a mission then seeing that it will take 20+ actual minutes to travel to their end point (intra-system) is an absolute dealbreaker. Sure, not all systems are that big, but many are massive - and the travel times are atrocious. For all its faults, when you're doing long distance travel in Star Citizen, you can still walk around your ship, rearrange cargo etc. In this case, you're cockpit-locked and just traversing. I love ED - but that will always limit this game's appeal to more casual players.

[@kurok1tenshi]

Thank you, was wondering about this and about the grind, this answers my question cause i don´t have the time for that...after work i have 2 to 3 hours of free time to eat and play a bit, can´t waste half of it just watching the spaceship move...Wanted to pick this one up since i play NMS weekly but 1:1 ratio on the time it´s a slap in the face.

[@rjthakurji8970]

after server shut down can play this game or not

[@Stonehawk]

well for starters elite dangerous is actually a game at all instead of merely a gorgeous tech demo with game-like interactions haphazardly stapled to the side of it. i mean, i love star citizen, i play star citizen even to this day, but I'm not about to kid myself; it would be dishonest of me to try and sell it for anything it's not. Are model trains 'a game'? I submit that they are not. They're a hobby. Star Citizen is model trains in space, except they're ships and you can walk around inside them. There's no REAL goal, and nothing that looks like a story unless you squint, and no sense of progression except money. still fun though, and still gorgeous, but not a game. Elite Dangerous is at least, actually, in fact, a full fledged game.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I totally agree with this. I forgot to mention in the video that I don’t think I’ve experienced a single bug in elite

[@originalgameronline3457]

@@CapnCrunchESO Lol, then you haven't done the buggy multi crew. And not much to ED , that's why you don't get that many bugs.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

@@originalgameronline3457 oh yeah I didn’t try multicrew, I just did the npc crew

[@BlueBaron3339]

Good summary once again, Cap. And fair. I played it years ago when it first came out and it brought back memories of the 1984 Commodor 64 classic, Starflight. Lots and lots of exploration but the difference was the Starflight was a single player game with a story with a good bit of humor. There wouldn't be an online space game until Stellar Emperor in '85 on CIS. But I digress. I like how you imagine the ideal audience for games. I think you nailed it with this one. I look for social interaction in online games and, thus, I was not the audience for this one 😉

[@levitatingbusinessman2560]

Elite Dangerous is the latest of Elite games. The first being Elite for the BBC Micro which would then be ported to nearly all personal computer systems. It was one of the first 3D games.

[@w33dsmoke61]

I tried pi king it back up this week. Kept crashing for no reason

[@sossepanter]

indeed the cracking and the boom of the asteroid sound really good.

[@christopherdaffron8115]

You make it sound as though laser mining and deep core mining are mutually exclusive. Can't you laser mine the asteroid first and then blow it up for more resources?

[@SPKGAGE]

Nice video 🔥

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Thank you :) and thanks for the comment

[@Maddog1122]

Hey just want to say this was a very good and helpful video for me. Every video was spitting a bunch of word garbage but this gave me answers in a simple and clear way.

[@cmdrls212]

I can't believe this game is still around.

[@ScottTempler]

I always wished i could launch a Ming dill into space would be excellent mines

[@sennemaa59769]

Yes it is

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I had fun for sure. Plenty of things to do to keep you busy

[@levitatingbusinessman2560]

I love Elite. I wish they didn't release Odyssey though, it is badly executed and it doesn't fit the franchise at all. The game is like 5 dollars during sale btw. I am surprised you don't play with a controller. I currently use my steam deck to play so I have some 10 additional buttons and a gyro.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

It does kind of feel like they have two separate games and kind of stitched them together when they added odyssey

[@slyguy8943]

Short answer: Yes Game is finally getting updates that people have wanted for years. Everything feels great

[@halfbreedmedic1756]

I just fired it back up after two years. Started playing when it first came to Xbox… still just as fun…

[@damienspectre4231]

BIG Realease once every 5 years. Then for the next 5 years : a small update here, a ship released there, optimizing the old release 100x times Waiting New content is pretty much like watching paint peel of your walls. Gave up on this a long time ago

[@FarhaanLevy]

5:49 notification gave me ptsd

[@2003andre100]

I'm swimming in the smooooke of bridges I have burneeed

[@RetroCowboy78]

yes

[@meidomiseri]

Get in now and claim your own place in history in mankind's historic war over the Thargoid menace!!

[@kingcelaya1]

Elite Dangerous is only good for about 4000 hours.😅

[@Rirage]

Lol

[@jaydee4674]

Hello, my name is Sonny and I play golf.

[@ellescer]

Getting ganked in this game is incredibly hard, considering the map size lmao

[@yurivii]

I worry about player population

[@originalgameronline3457]

A once great space sim that is riddled with a game engine that is strapped with technical debt & unscalable for meaningful content DLC. The game has the best 1:1 Galaxy in gaming. Unfortunately , it's completely void of any types of game mechanics to further enhance the experience. Would love to come back & play this game , but the Star Citizen fever is just too hard to leave. My imagination is allowed to do more in that space sim than this one. Do I regret buying ED?? HELL NO!! I like others have outgrown the game & need more. But if you've never played Elite , I suggest you do. It's worth it. But be warned , everything is done at a snails pace on the dev side. o7

[@mavzee2827]

Imagine saying " I need more " then mention Star Citizen :D :D Still waiting huh friend? It's ok, maybe in another 5 years of cash farming SC will be worth the time.

[@Tamburello_1994]

I only paid five billion for my fleet carrier.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Do you end your making that back in profit or no?

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@CapnCrunchESO Depends how you define profit. The freedom and options a super carrier affords a commander in my view, is priceless. The fact I can take my entire fleet anywhere in the galaxy provides me with limitless gameplay, as I have over thirty-five ships. I could never go back to life before that purchase. The war against the Thargoids exposed the vulnerabilities of being tied down to a starport. It was then I decided protecting my investment(s) is paramount. As an Elite V trader, I do run a small commodity, and secure (stolen) market from the carrier, but profits, or a return on the FC investment isn't a priority at the moment.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

@@Tamburello_1994 that actually sounds really fun, move your fleet carrier to wherever the war is happening

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@CapnCrunchESO ....And it doesn't take long to get out into some pristine, untouched galaxy where you are ruler of all you survey. One could mine unmolested from player and NPC alike until your heart is content and all loaded up, then come back to Bubble-Space and be Mr. Rare Commodity Brooker -- that plus all the FRESH exploration data AND exo-bio scans to boot? Billionaire many times over.

[@neelakiller]

Put together well, but uptalking is unlistenable for me, unfortunately.

[@christophercox4437]

Not worth playing till they put VR in the on foot game not one more thin dime till they do.

[@bobross8569]

Not if you are on console.

[@tat381]

Not played it in over a year done pretty much everything now for what I wanted to do

[@Profane_Pagan]

Still reasons to come back: The defensive war against the titans and when we manage to weaken one the assault on the titan. + The upcoming overhauled powerplay and all the factional struggles it entails.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Wonder if maybe they can add some stuff like no man’s sky did to bring players together and make it feel more alive

[@JS-nh3lu]

Seems boring af

[@MetallicMedium]

Odyssey is a crappy shooter at best. Yes there's lots to do, but Frontier failed to deliver on many promises. They took most of the money they made on Elite, and poured it into their "Foundry" game studio. Which is now gone. At one time one of the best VR titles. Then they dropped VR support. They canceled all console support right after Odyssey came out. Frontier rebirthed the space sim genera, then watched it die.

[@Tamburello_1994]

You seem bitter and your talking points are dated.

[@originalgameronline3457]

@@Tamburello_1994 Doesn't make them not true.

[@andrewgoodall2183]

Not good video. Just a run down of features. No discussion about odyssey and if it's better now and why. Wasted my time watching this.

[@lnonno9321]

Thanks for the heads up but respectfully it's signposted what the topics are here and it's only ten minutes so I think you're being a bit over the top lol

[@kevinbarnes3404]

Hell NO!! You have make billions on this game. It will take up to at least 4-5 years to make one billion Fleet carrier is 5 billion So add that all up!!

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@kevinbarnes3404 Lol took me 2 months, kid. Git good.

[@kevinbarnes3404]

@@Tamburello_1994 I’m 51 when I was playing it. It was on the Xbox.

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@kevinbarnes3404 Ok, I'm 57 - still playing on PC where the game belongs, -- kid. 😎 And if you don't believe me, I am Cmdr BR549X and my Fleet Carrier is Romulus. Inara listed.

[@JAGER686]

Took me like 2 days to farm for FC plus 10 years of the maintenance cost paid off for it.

[@kevinbarnes3404]

@ how in 2 days 5 billion in 2days huh Hhmm

[@mr_eznov]

Short answer: No.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I enjoyed the time I played but unlikely to come back to it anytime soon

[@mr_eznov]

@@CapnCrunchESO Yes. Neither do I. They continue to kill the game. If everything will continue this way It is going to be dead in couple of updates.

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@mr_eznov Don't play, but you watch Elite videos..... OK, sure. I call BS.

[@mr_eznov]

@@Tamburello_1994 I wanted to see if there any progress on game after throwing it away three months ago. As it turns out - (much) less good than bad. That's why my answer is no. If Frontier won't understand what's wrong with their update politics - this game is, unfortunately, going to die.

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@mr_eznov You thought you'd find those answers here? But you already chimed in with a very "short answer" so it appears your mind was already made up. Not buying it.

[@project.jericho]

LOL... No.

[@KalenTomlinson]

This game is dead. Especially on consoles.. I'm in the most popular station that pvp ganks happen at.. nothing! I look up all the guides to find aliens or make money? NOTHING! All the 3rd party tools like EDDB and INARA are abandoned and outdated.. Find NOTHING! mining for hours to make mere fractions of what i used to in 30 minutes. Massacre missions and exploits with wings is t only way too make back make money and its boring.. MADE NOTHING! Oh.. let's not forget that the latest expansion Odyssey divides the players from Horizons the last update... So I can't play with friends, multicrew.. the co-op feature does not work.. and when it does? People only use it for exploits and not to help people or get lost in a game.. The Expansions also have separate planets.. so while everyone is off killing Orthus Aliens for like 80 million per kill ez game I go to the same planet? I can't even land on it to look for spires to kill the aliens... JUST A LOT OF.. you guessed it.. NOTHING! Combat is a joke for both good and bad players.. weapon balance is non-existent engineering breaks the game while making it more grindy.. DLC and future updates.. ONLY AVAILABLE ON PC And honestly.. if I had a PC I would play Star Citizen instead. Mostly because there's stuff to do and they didn't abandon 3/4ths of their playerbase...