Eve Online - What align time to avoid instat locking gankers?

Hi folks,
So not a polished video but It gets the job done. So I take a look at the Sunesis and how hard it is to catch if you have a below 2 second align time. I test out locking it with a Stiletto & a Maulus with remote sensor boosters giving me 7500 scan res.
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[@NobCatz]

You need to pre-load your warp disruptor too.

[@dude5767]

Thanks for the article link. I'd read something similar before but the graphs they use in this article make things much easier to understand.

[@leosagan3692]

Interesting video , thanks Strange. My take on haulers ganks is kinda relax. Even if it is theorically possible to intercept an almost uncatchable prey with a lot of efforts, your average ganking Joe will almost always go for the easy autopilot / poorly fitted / AFK juicy target. Just make sure you're not that guy. Yes, even if you're careful, you can get caught from time to time because s**** happens. But if this kills you yearly profits, you're doing something wrong. Don't get paranoid, just math your way out and make sure your isk balance will recover from a few random ganks in your Eve career. Because these ganks WILL happen : even the best prepared hauls can go south if you factor in, for instance, an ISP related disconnection. Cannot recover from that ? Don't undock, you're doing it wrong. My two cents anyways.

[@rainrirox148]

Great video intetesting topic as usal great work catch in game master of none

[@strange_Net]

Glad you enjoyed it, youve not been on much of late!

[@BruceCarbonLakeriver]

Nice vid - very informative. I always prefer covops. I trained in cloak after pressing warp and I'm literally initiate warp in the same server tick than I hit cloak. I'm literally just a fraction of a sec on overview. Never got cought even with 6b in the cargo. The 12+ AU/s are even more helpfull to get rid of followers and I got followed persuited very often xD

[@strange_Net]

Hey Bruce, yea coverts are so hard to catch. I often move around in a blockage runner with cloak or a shuttle as they have 1.63 sec align time so very hard to catch. Wanted to put it to the test however as I didnt know know and didnt want to be catch with me pants down!

[@BruceCarbonLakeriver]

@@strange_Net hahaha xD yep. Your vid is great I just looked up for that information and then you vid popped up in my notifications. Thank you :)

[@audiblebites553]

Good vid! There was another one I watched where the guy flew his sunesis around in a circuit and set it up if he was caught he would give 500mil. Someone did catch him eventually but had to do some crazy stuff to his computer to get his ping down.

[@strange_Net]

Hehe might have to try that out ;-) Yea their is this misconception that a under 2 sec align you cant be catch. Its hard but not impossible shame I couldnt do it on the vid...

[@audiblebites553]

@@strange_Net yeah it’s possible just not PRACTICALLY possible. Even if you can scram it can you kill it before concord gets you. And how expensive a fit do you need just to scram it? If you have to fit expensive mods it’s not worth it.

[@audiblebites553]

@@strange_Net finally found it kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKDamYmfZ9-DZ5Y it was by hateless gaming

[@YoutubeAdministrator]

Some people specialize in catching sub 2 sec ships. I've experienced it a lot on gate camps so now I always have a warp core stab on my travel ceptors

[@DrunkenGuitarGuy]

your test bears out my experience! travel in sub 2 second ships alot, to haul small valuable stuff, or to avoid wardeccers... never been tackled! smart bombed numerous times but never tackled... i'm in na so good but not great ping!

[@strange_Net]

Interesting, yea ive never been caught as yet but also never tested it out ive always thought that id be fine with a -2 sec align time but over 1 sec but never tested it out.

[@BIGxJIMxSLADE]

Yeah, I'm at 1.7 in my Sune, and have been smarted at gates a couple of times. Never caught with dual stabs, but definitely killed. Im in the Western US. It usually only happens when they have someone spotting on the in gates for them.

[@goofytycooner5519]

Sub-1 second is possible from what I've heard, but it'd require a Hecate in Propulsion mode fitted specifically for that purpose

[@cc6925]

I can get 1.4 in Hecate thats the best I can do. Got a garmur under 2 and I think it might be quicker that what it says

[@goofytycooner5519]

@@cc6925 the sub-1s fit needs 100% maxed skills, full faction inertial stabs, T2 rigs, and a couple implants to work so it aint cheap lol

[@cc6925]

Anything under 2.0 is still awesome either way. I've moved billions in bpos in high sec thru chokes and had no problems

[@eventon9372]

Awesome video and I like the side by side perspective. I have been locked up in a sub-2 second Sunesis before going through Rancer (Notorious low-sec gank system between Jita & Hek) It was a Confessor (likely in sharpshooter) getting sensor boosted by 2 other ships so it is possible. Luckily when I go through low-sec I was use a 1-3 warp stabs in my Sunesis so I managed to get away. You just never see it in Hi-Sec since the ships die too fast to be able to hold them there long enough.

[@strange_Net]

Hey Eve man thanks ;-) Yea Rancer AKA Rancid has been a ganking hotspot for ever. You can basically have several people just boosting the one ship. If that ship get a disrupter then the DPS ship piles on before they get back into warp.

[@YoutubeAdministrator]

It looks like you're trying to lock and then disrupt. Don't you need to have your disruptor flashing when you click the target on your overview?

[@Fluscha]

I know I am late to the reply, check at 6:10, he has it primed.

[@ivleontellus]

active warp dis before targeting, i see you manage to get a lock.

[@Sabotronics]

Two gankers managed to blow up my Sunesis TWICE (different dates) in a gate camp. They insta-lock and disrupted my sub2 in a very suspicious way. I checked their zkillboard, and for my surprise; they have a huge record by blowing up sub2's. Is it possible they are using an script as exploit to surpass human interaction?

[@KnowerofThings]

why use the Maulus? it doesnt have any bonuses to remote sensor booster?

[@pvdns77]

There is a guy in rancer who catches shuttles sometimes. I think it's about the update order explained in that link TheSindara posted here. But maybe it's just lag of the victim.

[@guigolum]

if you catch sub 1s it means there was a lag at server level.

[@HalkerVeil]

What about the Luxury Yacht?

[@grimaxemopher7308]

If you really want to be safe I have fits for sub 1 I can send you if you want them it actually requires messing with settings on your pc to catch sub2

[@ReustersPlace]

Sub 2 second based on the system tick mechanics makes it impossible. 1 sec to send the warp signal, 1 second to show up before warp. I’m really unsure how anyone could get caught under 2...

[@strange_Net]

Read the article I linked in the description. Also this is why people pay 4 billion for a under 1 second Hecate due to then being able to get under 1 second align time.

[@ReustersPlace]

@@strange_Net I’ll try to find the tick explanation and link it here as well.

[@YoutubeAdministrator]

It can happen and it does happen.

[@howdoifindaname2743]

Protip: click on your warp disruptor, then wait for decloak, then click on target... You should've got him as far as I saw

[@strange_Net]

Hey, I did that several times didn't make any difference I still couldn't get the module to activate.

[@vicospriteg]

Get someone from the us to pilot the sunesis. To add latency.

[@strange_Net]

That a pretty decent idea TBH thanks

[@vicospriteg]

@@strange_Net no worries. It’s usually from what I understand the latency that allows people to catch sub and 1.99 second align pilots. Since you’re ping is the same for both sides, you won’t catch the sunesis since it takes 2 ticks to point, first tick is the lock, second tick is the point applied.

[@TheSindara]

Have you seen the post on Reddit in which a guy claims to have been able to get 170 killmarks vs travel Interceptors by manipulating the update order of the servers in such a way that his lock completes on the server tick before the server tick on which the enemy ships warps? Have a look if not. old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/l4mg4y/how_i_got_170_killmarks_on_my_daredevil_an/

[@strange_Net]

Hey Sindara, I hadn't seen this very interesting read thank you for linking this.

[@justsoicanfingcomment5814]

Never get caught in high security space again. Align time : 0.97s Ship Warp Speed : 7.82 AU/s Fit : Hecate - Propulsion Mode #1,Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers x4 #2,10MN Analog Booster Afterburner #3,Small Hyperspacial Velocity Optimizer II x3 #4,Improved Cloaking Device II Enjoy the raging gate campers.

[@strange_Net]

Indeed, not the cheapest but well worth the price for the added safety of sub 1 sec align time.