Eve was Framed

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@QuarkLeptonTheOriginalRecipe 4 ай бұрын

This was a great show , Seth. Thank you for having Eve as a guest. I love the chemistry the two of you have with each other. ❤

@trafficjon400 4 ай бұрын

What I would have liked to have thought.

@michaelburk9171 4 ай бұрын

Agreed. Great conversation covering important topics. Yet stayed entertaining

@philyra2 4 ай бұрын

What you said about conditioned response in worship services really struck a chord with me. I was a music minister for many years before I left the church and Christianity, and part of what turned me off is exactly what Eve described. I was privy to the behind-the-scenes action and was an active participant in manufacturing an "experience." The pastor and I worked closely together to put together programs that would create the right atmosphere. Like Eve recalls, there was that idea of "okay, we're going to play this song and we're going to be very emotional and get the congregation going." I was even instructed as to what songs to perform just before the offering in order to get people to give more money. Conditioned response is exactly what's happening.

@seekthevisceral 4 ай бұрын

Wow, that must have been so bizarre every single Sunday. Regardless, I hope you're still playing music. :)

@michaelburk9171 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like you "created" the presence of the holy Spirit.

@mr-nf5sz 3 күн бұрын

Struck a chord eh?

@douglasschnabel4480 4 ай бұрын

Eve's description of leading worship at Bethel is so revealing.

@Salamander_falls 4 ай бұрын

I’m not a musician, but i ran tech for worship services for 3 different churches in various parts of my life. It was… eye opening to see a worship minister rehearse himself into a frenzy SO THAT he can be emotional because it didn’t come naturally. To see someone work themselves into a lather to sell the emotion because it was all made up. And seeing that every week. The setup, the 2 hours of rehearsing before 30 minutes of worship… it changed how i viewed religion. It was from that point that I realized that i couldn’t trust emotion, i had to find God through logic and reason that eventually led to my deconversion

@CorbinB-Rax 4 ай бұрын

She instantly became braindead when she called Trump a fascist dictator. Either use words correctly, or don't use words. She has no use with a hammer if all she does is throw it at people.

@Giantfloatingballoonhead 4 ай бұрын

Seth is so kind and respectful. He just makes me feel seen and understood when I listen to him. Great episode 👏🏾

@DariusRoland 4 ай бұрын

Eve, I absolutely love your appearances on The Line, and am very impressed with your political speech! Keep it up!!

@johnevans6629 4 ай бұрын

Before I became an athlete religion informed my politics then I went to college & that was really the first time I was outside my echo chamber. As began learning my faith became weaker & weaker. But the real nail in coffin was when I took a world philosophy’s class where I learned about how to construct an argument & about various logical fallacies.

@user-pw6ei2mn7x 4 ай бұрын

Well done. Lucky you🍀🍀🍀

@DavidSmith-vr1nb 4 ай бұрын

@@johnevans6629 Track or field?

@CorbinB-Rax 4 ай бұрын

I was dying and wanted to KNOW the bible was true. I set out to learn logic and epistemology to ground its legitimacy. 5 years later, I believe this god is real, but that he is evil, and that he is absolutely not god. Absolutely real. Absolutely not god.

@jeffdoyle1227 4 ай бұрын

I started following Eve on Instagram about 2 months ago. She's very smart, I love her uploads

@michaelburk9171 4 ай бұрын

I recently started following her as well It's been an eye opener of the reality of evangelical society

@destinationshypnosis 4 ай бұрын

As someone who became atheist only within the past year, social media from atheists DOES HELP. And it's so wonderful to see women in the atheist space. I love hearing the variety of stories. Thank you, Seth and Eve!

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

do you know those atheists keep talking about what do not believe because they have nothing to offer to you, just as atheism... I suspect that they do it to take advantages fro you and keep looked into this obsessed religious cult... Indeed it is a cult, as its has how own dogmas (such tehre is no God, there is no Creation, No soul and so on). So it is not just bad, and nothing positive about this empty sick cult called atheism, but they are also framing you... you are just religious as us, but you do not know what your religion is for. Get out from this cult and go back to god, oK??

@tinyshepherdess7710 4 ай бұрын

I deconstructed and deconverted from evangelical Christianity before social media and yes, I thought I was the only one who would dare reject Jesus. All the apostates on SM really, really help.

@BrianStevens-y6h 4 ай бұрын

Neil The 604 Atheist

@tommyvictorbuch6960 4 ай бұрын

There's no hate like Christian love ⍖

@TGP109 4 ай бұрын

You wouldn't say that to a muslim even though they follow most of the same edicts.

@tommyvictorbuch6960 4 ай бұрын

@@TGP109, I criticize Islam every day. We have enough cowards in the West as it is.

@ronaldwhiting57 4 ай бұрын

Christian or Muslim it’s the same delusion

@tommyvictorbuch6960 4 ай бұрын

@@TGP109 I criticize Islam daily, so yeah... I would.

@FollowGodsWord 4 ай бұрын

I'm sorry for the poor experience(s) you may have faced with Christians. While we fall short of our calling, love is the central theme to the God of the Bible. Don't miss out on the amazing future He wants to share with you! "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." - John 15:12-13 Jesus said unto him, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." - Matthew 22:37-40

@TheNewAtheists 4 ай бұрын

“Look at the trees” is obviously a call to ‘intelligent design’.

@spaceghost8995 4 ай бұрын

You get lost in the woods with no food or shelter and you won't be thinking the trees are so pretty.

@joshuaneal7552 4 ай бұрын

And the clouds.

@michaelburk9171 4 ай бұрын

That "argument" always brings to mind Douglas Adam's metaphor about the puddle

@JoeBManco 4 ай бұрын

A favorite argument in my former religion was the water cycle.

@testrabbit 3 ай бұрын

Or irreducible complexity...which we just need a large enough system that models partly quantum systems to do in order to get rid of animal testing.

@mathieuguillet4036 4 ай бұрын

I am very glad that Eve maintains a good rapport with her parents.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven.

@addisonshinedown 26 күн бұрын

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363so t”taking the lord’s name in vain” does not mean what we’re taught it means. It’s saying not to invoke god in your actions and claiming to do your actions on his behalf.

@Wrensan 4 ай бұрын

I decontrusted from Catholicism in my 20s: I am 75 now

@AngelMass 4 ай бұрын

I'm so happy for you

@SuperBookdragon 4 ай бұрын

Did you decide to use the word decontrusted instead of deconstructed? Actually your word is brilliant .... like no longer trust that religion is true.

@chicfini 4 ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Congratulations 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

@chicfini 4 ай бұрын

@@SuperBookdragonohhh, I had to read it twice, then I spelled it together 😂, yea, it's cuteword gymnastics 😅😅😅

@bobgreenfield9158 4 ай бұрын

Age 7, and then by 13 I thought it was lies. By 17 I would do experiments for my classmates. They thought I was bad. But I am quiet about my beliefs. My 89 year old mother doesn't know.

@DarylDixonWannabe 4 ай бұрын

I recently was amazed in talking to a male family member who told me how disgusted he was by the idea of having sex with a woman who is not a virgin because she's not pure. I think he's thinking too much.

@spaceghost8995 4 ай бұрын

After Priscila Presley had a baby Elvis wouldn't ever have sex with her again because probably an "unclean" religious phobia .

@michaelburk9171 4 ай бұрын

That mind set means that it's sex with men that makes women impure. Men have and spread the impurity.

@kallista5194 4 ай бұрын

Like, dude... you're only supposed to have 1 virgin your entire life: Your Wife. No one should be looking for virgins just to deflower them, that's an utterly exploitative mindset. Does he believe he is also "ruining" women by deflowering them with no intent to wed them? Wouldn't it be his manhood leaving them "wilted" & "used"? Cuz that's the other side of the coin he's flipping. Obsession with virginity came from laws of Succession and Inheritance, before we had paternity tests. It's long overdue for retirement. Particularly when you realize a hymen can be broken just from riding a bike, horse, climbing a tree, you know, Living a normal life. It's ridiculous to maintain "purity" standards for only one gender. 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

@kallista5194 4 ай бұрын

Lol they deleted my comment. How draconian.

@zendata4354 4 ай бұрын

@@kallista5194 filter by newest first schizo

@FriendlyAtheist1 4 ай бұрын

Love this conversation. Thanks to you both for having it.

@DavidSmith-vr1nb 4 ай бұрын

Hi there, big fan of your channel too.

@dougjohnson1618 4 ай бұрын

Thanks to both of you 🙂

@WaysToHuman 4 ай бұрын

I'm so glad Eve mentioned the harm that Purity Culture has on men! It's just as important to acknowledge in order to move forward and for everyone to heal and progress.

@NightmareRex6 4 ай бұрын

i just want a sweet pretty loving that loves ME and not mammon not 6feet 6inches 6figures required woman :/

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

@Gluedonwings 3 ай бұрын

Love this channel and the fact that you have incredible guests on like Eve! I will be looking for me of her content!

@JohnSandlin-e3j 4 ай бұрын

Regarding having to wear the oversized shirt to hide your body to keep guys from having impure thoughts; that wasn't actually helpful. The Men and boys still have those thoughts. And by saying the woman must cover up just makes the men and boys more prone to act on those thoughts when a woman doesn't, and even when she does. Teach the men and boys they have to control their own actions.

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

and where is God in your life? You can leave this empty sick toxic cult called atheism and go back to God, now, ok??

@exceptionallyaverage3075 4 ай бұрын

@D.MarcelloRadice Which version of which so-called god are you shilling for? I'll need. Ore information in order to make fun of you more effectively. Until then, LOL at you.

@hectormata449 4 ай бұрын

This very shy boy growing up was told just the opposite by the older guys and seem to be the thing to do as portrayed in the movies as i was growing up in the fifties. Sowing your “oats” before married for a man was encouraged so you’ll know what to do since you will be marrying a clueless virgin who must be “deflowered” on her wedding night. I always thought that was so wrong and in my mind I thought…what’s sauce to the gander is also sauce to the goose.

@DavidSmith-vr1nb 4 ай бұрын

I've seen a controlling guy force his girlfriend to do this once, and it totally backfired on him because the hemline drew even more attention to her derrière (for legal reasons I should mention this was a 37 year old woman).

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

@@DavidSmith-vr1nb you are nother one trapped into an empty sick empty relgious cult such atheism.

@johnrichards1019 4 ай бұрын

Seth, that was one of the best interviews I have ever watch, Eves story was so awesome, thanks, great show

@LeslieLendis 4 ай бұрын

Thanks to both of you for this conversation. Both of you have played a big role in my deconstruction. I appreciate what you do.

@tulpas93 4 ай бұрын

Thanks, you two! ❤❤

@stevelarrivee3512 4 ай бұрын

I love that she acknowledged how purity culture is also harmful for the boys and young men in these gross abrahamic cults.

@darbymori350 4 ай бұрын

I'm an Atlanta girl that moved to Nashville area too!!!! Recently became a non-believer. I know a few fellow non-believers, but I'd love to meet more, especially over coffee.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

@RAD-ju1ru 24 күн бұрын

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 What a sad, deluded little person you are. Get some help dude.

@smitisan4984 4 ай бұрын

God looked down from his heaven, saw what Adam was doing with the animals, and said "That ain't good." Him thinking something he was responsible for went "wrong" was actually the Original Sin, and it's all been projection ever since.

@BackToTheBoomBap 4 ай бұрын

Congrats on your engagement, Eve! I'm happy for you and a little sad. 😂 Just kidding. But seriously, I'm enjoying this conversation. Seth is always a great host. And it's good to get to know more about Eve Was Framed. I've seen her handling calls on the other atheist shows, but didn't know her whole story.

@baskeptic1161 4 ай бұрын

Congratulations on your engagement Eve!

@designsonq1 4 ай бұрын

@@baskeptic1161 plot twist... His name is Adam! Idk.. it probably Frank.

@baskeptic1161 4 ай бұрын

@@designsonq1 LOL!

@SpaceCattttt 4 ай бұрын

Goddammit!!!!! She was to be mine! 😭

@davewood4604 4 ай бұрын

I was brought up as a Catholic. I went to what was a convent school when they introduced the first year of boys when it changed to a mixed school. Wow, I was a non believer before at about 12 years old. But the nuns turned me into a militant atheist. I was caned across my hands for blasphemy, I refused to do RE classes. I am now a devout atheist. My sympathies to anyone who has been through religious nonsense. I refuse to let religion anywhere near my children.

@ernesthastie-gg7kn 4 ай бұрын

I went to a catholic school I remember when we were introduced to the Bible we read that god created the world my reaction was who created God and was god was always there I was about 12 years old and that same brother said to me that only catholics go to heaven I never gave it another thought

@debranelson1987 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, those nuns would rap the knuckles of your hand with a ruler when you weren't looking. They were such mean people.

@davewood4604 4 ай бұрын

@@debranelson1987 Did you notice that they often smelled like burnt tyres and urine. Wow I hated them. When I got caned which was a few times for saying I do not believe in god. I would stare them in the face and smile as hard as I could. Always freaked them out.

@debranelson1987 4 ай бұрын

@@davewood4604 They probably wore the same habits for days without taking a bath or shower. Thanks for your comment...😎

@michaelburk9171 4 ай бұрын

My father was raised in a strict evangelical church and house hold. He promised himself that when he had kids he would shield them from that abuse. It was a huge conflict between him and his mother. Because my brother and I needed a "proper' Christian upbringing. I didn't learn most of this until after he passed. Wish I could have thanked him.

@ernesthastie-gg7kn 4 ай бұрын

I am so glad that none of this ever happened in my family it's terrible

@ilovethe80sNW Ай бұрын

Great interview Seth! I really enjoyed hearing Eve's backstory. It will definitely deepen my understanding of her perspective when I listen to her co-host now! I can now see why she is so empathetic to callers who are struggling with their faith.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 9 күн бұрын

@jeremybuck1590 4 ай бұрын

"Look at the trees" reminds me of Ray Comfort and his banana theory. "This banana fits so perfectly in our hands, because it was divinely created to be easy to eat." Um... so watermelons? Jackfruit? Rambotan? Such a ridiculous argument.

@tammiebrown8317 4 ай бұрын

That’s hilarious since the first bananas were actually inedible.

@designsonq1 4 ай бұрын

@@jeremybuck1590 pineapples.......

@jeremybuck1590 4 ай бұрын

@@tammiebrown8317 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eImvond9gZZ5ick

@BryanAlaspa 23 күн бұрын

Or the fact that bananas today were genetically engineered over a long time to be that way. The way they grow wild... they're small, bitter and now well made at all.

@MurderCraw 4 ай бұрын

I'm very happy to have come across this video. I was raised Catholic and went through so many mental crises over my faith, then lack of faith, then hyper fixation on other "spiritualities". I finally just said, if this is all coming from humans minds, fuck it. To fill whatever void I may feel, I'll make up my own gods. They're now my OCs I sometimes put in DnD. It's oddly cathartic. I do other stuff for fun and as my own healthy cope for trauma. I don't see why others couldn't try either. Atheist, agnostic? Antitheist? Bah! Screw labels. Be yourself, but apologize and strive to be better when you mess up.

@voxpopuli348 4 ай бұрын

ICR. I love cats so Bastet is now my Goddess. I have a papyrus and statue of her.

@michaelburk9171 4 ай бұрын

I can see that creating an OC that is a bit like yourself, or how you used to be, could be cathartic. You can analyze yourself from the out side

@michaelburk9171 4 ай бұрын

@@voxpopuli348 I love the images and narrative of Bastet. I can't think of her as more than a fictional character. But she is a good roll model

@jrojala 4 ай бұрын

Eve is so good on The Line, I like her reasoning

@James-qo7uz 4 ай бұрын

I grew up in an independent fundamentalist Baptist church that was very legalistic with rules and shame for things like women wearing pants and going to the movies even ones rated G or PG.

@neizha 2 ай бұрын

Listening to Seth in 2009 and 2010 was one of the things that helped with my final deconversion. We should never assume we can't reach people when so many of us were reached already.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@neizha 2 ай бұрын

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Yeah that isn't convincing statement, and I'm not afraid of something that doesn't exist. I haven't believed in your god in a long time now, and comments like yours aren't winning anyone over. Comments like yours drive away more people than it will ever convert.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@@neizha This is coming from a good place, my love for you are drops in the ocean compared to God’s love for you. Jesus loves you and wants to save you from hell so love Him back.

@neizha 2 ай бұрын

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 That is a claim that needs evidence. You need to provide evidence that a god exists and then provide evidence that it loves me and wants me to love it back.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Ай бұрын

@@neizha A Building is evidence of a builder, a painting is evidence of a painter. likewise creation (puppies, trees, animals and humans) proves there is a creator Demons come out in the name of Jesus therefore Jesus is God

@Telorand1 4 ай бұрын

Congratulations on your engagement, Eve! May you both have lots of fulfillment in your marriage! Also, thank you so much for sharing your story. It was heartbreaking, illuminating, familiar, and it fills me with hope for my own journey as I figure out what it means to be an ex-Fundigelical. And thank you to Seth for interviewing Eve and being a good interviewer. You're a gem!

@26beegee 4 ай бұрын

I could be Eve’s grandmother - and would be proud to! Good for her for rejecting the misogynist religion that seeks to subjugate women and fill them with shame just because of who they are!! Great interview Seth.

@LimitlessThinker 4 ай бұрын

My mother was a devout Catholic and a virgin at 31, when she got married. She was a model. I grew up hearing my parents argue. My mom wanted to leave my dad and her priest talked her out of it, because he said she would be excommunicated. It's truly sad. My mother told me she had never read the bible, years later. I've been an atheist for over 20 years. Fascinating interview and I am glad Eve is free from all of it. She will help others by sharing her story.

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

@Mehki227 4 ай бұрын

I became an atheist in catechism class when I was 8. It was studying the Bible that did it😂

@debranelson1987 4 ай бұрын

I freed myself from the Catholic church and am ever so glad I did. I would never go back.

@FollowGodsWord 4 ай бұрын

@@debranelson1987 I'm sorry for the experienced you must have faced in the Roman Catholic Church. While the RCC is a world-wide movement spreading Christianity, they have a history of introducing Pagan practices into the church (especially under Emperor Constantine), forced conversion, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Jesuit Order, and destroying other religions (even Christians) who disagreed with the Pope. During the Dark Ages, non-RCC clergy were severely punished if caught with possession of scripture. The Pope's triple crown used to read, "Vicarius Filii Dei" (Latin: Vicar or Representative of the Son of God). Popes have made several blasphemous claims, and using Roman Numerals (understanding U and V are interchangeable) this adds up to 666. There are several other considerations making the RCC fit the first beast in Revelation 13, and the Protestant reformers identified the Pope as the antichrist.

@TheMonkdad 4 ай бұрын

I've been an atheist for so long that when I listen to the religious talking I feel like I'm listening to a group of 5 year olds having a serious conversation about Santa Claus. People of faith believe in god because they need to believe in god. I wouldn’t want to take god away from them any more than I would take Santa away from children. But children don’t try and force the world to believe in Santa do they?

@joe_karry 4 ай бұрын

I feel you bro.. I was born atheist, 4th generation of atheists.. at some point I was wondering if I was indoctrinated.. i looked into 5 or 6 religions.. but exactly. 7yeaars old Max! 😊😅

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

@@joe_karry 4th generetion without God, are you so fucked up?

@centaur7607 4 ай бұрын

@@TheMonkdad I tried to pressure people to believe in Santa when I was a kid. 😂 I reacted with anger and disbelief when another child told me that Santa wasn't real. I was beyond disappointed when it was confirmed by my mother. It really was painful letting go of Santa, and I'll bet anything that the shattering of Santa helped me start questioning God too. I still don't like all the secrecy about Santa, because I did feel confused and betrayed when I learned Santa wasn't real. I know that a lot of people only have good experiences regarding Santa, but I don't want to hide the truth, and I think they'll still enjoy Christmas even if they don't believe in a literal Santa.

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

@@centaur7607 how can you exchange Santa Claus with God (who is the creator of all, when Santa is not)) Is this another error that your cult called atheism makes you make? Guys you are really fragile as your atheism.

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

@@joe_karry and now you been indocrineted by atheists about their belief, but you do not complain why?

@Marko_Ilic 4 ай бұрын

Thank you Seth for having Eve on your show! I love listening to both of you!

@turnerturner3281 4 ай бұрын

First time listening to Eve. They both alluded to her parents being well known. Just curious if anyone knows who they are?

@ricklehman8097 4 ай бұрын

I've seen Eve a lot on FB reels, I always like the things she says, & happy to see her on your show. Seth, You Rock ! I always enjoy your speaking events. Eve is pretty cool too.

@JadedzUzi 4 ай бұрын

Great video, thanks! Love you both! Keep up the great work, it is important.

@juniusluriuscatalus6606 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing that "turns men into monsters they are not". I was never a believer and even I felt that shame and guilt and whatever just by being influenced by this horrible religious thinking! Even nowadays there's traces of it and it affects my thinking - including the overreaction to protect them from something they could easily take care themselves. It's all useless and luckily I'm now able to recognize it. At least I have the chance.

@discontinuedmodel232 4 ай бұрын

Eve's "pool party" anecdote at about 17:26 was DISTURBING! That the woman tells a 12-year-old girl that she might tempt her OWN HUSBAND is unfathomable to me. It's just insane on so many levels - wow. A little off topic but look at some (not all) of the fringe Mormon enclaves like the Warren Jeffs crowd, where geriatric men marry young girls, thus driving away the younger men because there are few unmarried women available thanks to older men having multiple wives.

@trafficjon400 4 ай бұрын

Good point and should be fair gain accordingly. a book that manipulated the earth .of course it has to be long making it impossible for the average majority! knowing only 5% of the bible is why they fallow what they never read in honest context.

@ZenWithKen 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for what you do.

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

talking about God? And showing this is not but a religious cult, as it talk always about religion and God? Not really smart move to do not show to people it is not a religiopus cult, so no thanks for them, sorry.

@tommyhayes8702 4 ай бұрын

@@D.MarcelloRadice You cannot communicate effectively. You are either a child or an adult with the mind of a child. I will leave you alone, now.

@iatebambismom 4 ай бұрын

I watched your stream together, glad the youtube machine placed this on my recommendations and found your channel, Seth.

@Bacardi-D 3 ай бұрын

I resonate SO MUCH w u both....... same dam story.. freedom from fear is amazing now❤

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@janmikaldouglas2767 4 ай бұрын

Eve is so articulate and erudite. You can tell she's really thought all this out and made decisions about where she's landed. She and Seth make a great pairing! Beautiful people, in and out!

@tdsollog 4 ай бұрын

I follow both of you. This was great!❤

@chrispbacon3042 4 ай бұрын

Religion Posions Everything...Once said a wise man.

@brandendierker5873 4 ай бұрын

I already wasnt a believer around 16 years old. Had recently watched a bunch of videos of James Randi destroying psychics and exposing the beauties of logic and reason. A magician who not only clarifies magic isnt real, but exposes to the world how to think critically and find that understanding for themself. This lead to penn and teller, more magicians who hate magical thinking and love free speach and exposing nonsense. It was clear to me, at this point in my young life, that discussing my lack of religious views would lead to being looked down on and othered. I thought i was rude and disrespectful for thinking 99.9% of peoole i knew were devout christians and a bit stupid or insane. My family encouraged me to read the bible and pray and find a church 😂 One day a video popped up in my feed. Christopher hitchens talking at google "God is not great" I nearly spit out my drink i was so shocked. Whaaat?! God is not great? You can actually physically say that and not be struck down?? Holy crap this is a game changer. I immediately went to my mother and told her this 1hr video made way more sense than the 100s of hours of preaching and reading of bibles in my experience. I still live in an area where no one would admit its a lot of nonsense but i know im not alone in the world anymore. Christopher Hitchens was the real deal frfr

@trafficjon400 4 ай бұрын

A Rising Suggestion.

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

atheism is a religion (just do not deny it) so I guess also atheism has to do with it? One thing it posions is bring lonlyness and obsession for god.

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

@@trafficjon400 atheism is a religion (just do not deny it) so I guess also atheism has to do with it? One thing it posions is bring lonlyness and obsession for god....

@centaur7607 4 ай бұрын

@@chrispbacon3042 Ah, dearest Hitchens.

@davidlava5832 4 ай бұрын

God exists only inside the minds of the religious... nowhere else.

@friscowolf2917 4 ай бұрын

"God is a concept by which we measure our pain." -- John Lennon

@shawn092182 4 ай бұрын

Just like how Earth exists only inside the Milkyway Galaxy and nowhere else. Beat that atheists. 😆

@yaoiboilover 4 ай бұрын

Let's be honest, for some people it's barely that too

@Ppurk 4 ай бұрын

@@shawn092182 We will not pray for you.

@joe_karry 4 ай бұрын

@@yaoiboilover🤫 they know it, the bible is saying it. 😮😅

@CHRISSLATTERY-i4r 4 ай бұрын

Lilith was allegedly the first lesbian and vampire, according to one version. I saw an Eve Was Framed bumper sticker some 20 years ago on an old Volvo wagon driven by a college girl. Very thought provoking.

@spaceghost8995 4 ай бұрын

You had me at lesbian.😂

@taketheatrain5393 4 ай бұрын

As a life long non- believer, I am completely blown away, and my heart breaks when I hear indoctrination stories like Eve's. Evil, evil, evil!

@Where_is_Waldo 4 ай бұрын

Eve's experience with her early fears about her beliefs in childhood is very relatable.

@ghostreyn 4 ай бұрын

I think the hardest part about being out of the church and having left the faith is knowing i should be doing something but with the wounds which i was delt on my way out and remembering the pain i put my self through to be the prefect fundy christian i feel mote guilt then anything that i cant move past it.

@winros 13 күн бұрын

THANK YOU! THIS WAS A GREAT INTERVIEW 👍🏻!!

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 9 күн бұрын

@blackfly56 4 ай бұрын

I would like to note that Eve, when talking about the pool party and the chastity ring was saying how it made her feel bad, but it was the mother in the pool story that told her to cover up and maybe a woman also that had her wear the ring. I think it points to a general prejudice against men and the way they’re made. Leading to horrible labels like dirty old man or pervert or jerk… these things stay with them for a lifetime and are very harmful.

@CalvinSnow-ks3cl 4 ай бұрын

Wonderful, thanks. Two of my favorite people

@CrawfishDeluxe 4 ай бұрын

There's such an irony that when you're a kid, you're told that you're not allowed to do all sorts of things and that god is watching, and yet literally 100% of kids still do those things and as long as their parents or others don't know, they go along with it, not a care in the world. Never realizing that they were already internalizing that god is bullshit and that nobody was watching them.

@designsonq1 4 ай бұрын

@CrawfishDeluxe Yup. I literally learned that God wasn't watching because of the things I heard & saw from the people that told me that... Then, noting how they were around police. At 5, I'm Like... so... what was that?

@hectormata449 4 ай бұрын

Nope, as a Catholic child i did feel shame and guilt every time i did something wrong. As a teenager I eventually began to lose that guilt and later on I also lost my religiosity with intellectual maturity and understanding.

@CrawfishDeluxe 4 ай бұрын

@@hectormata449 Catholic guilt is real, but the kids are still doing all the stuff their parents are telling them not to do. This idea that religious children don't put the pieces together subconsciously that the invisible arbiter doesn't matter and proceed to covertly break rules is only afforded to moronic parents, and people who don't actually have kids. Your kids are breaking your rules, and their religion's rules, all the time. Exactly 0% of the world's children seriously believe when the rubber meets the road that God or anyone else is watching them at all times, they know how to be deceptive.

@stevenpike7857 4 ай бұрын

If people are curious why humans experience pain during childbirth (Like I was, so I researched it) while other animals "drop and go," is because of our rapid brain size evolution and walking upright. Since we are just a current snapshot of evolution, perhaps in another 10,000 years women's skeletal structure will "catch up" and won't have pain someday. Our brain size grew faster than a woman's [bipedal] skeletal structure could adapt.

@anyjen 4 ай бұрын

It's not just that. There is a compromise between childbirth and bipedalism as well.

@stevenpike7857 4 ай бұрын

@@anyjen yup! I used "walking upright," but you're word is fancier. 🤗

@Critical_Explorer-vw5hy 4 ай бұрын

I was a worship leader and was able to invoke big emotional responses from the congregation. I had no training. I had a goal to make at least one man cry. It worked every time. I realized it was fake.

@lepidoptera9337 4 ай бұрын

You didn't make a man cry. You made a failed human being cry. That's not just fake, that's a shameless act driven by greed.

@Critical_Explorer-vw5hy 4 ай бұрын

@lepidoptera9337 greed? I didn't get paid. I wanted to impact the congregation emotionally. Part of me wanted to move the church to give substance to the worship and fight the cognitive dissonance I was feeling. I wanted it to be real but it was just emptiness and human emotion.

@lepidoptera9337 4 ай бұрын

@@Critical_Explorer-vw5hyYour church collected money, didn't it? It's all about money at this point. Judaism starts with politics (as even a cursory reading of the OT will prove) and it ends as a con that is all about money. No gods were involved at any time. If you don't believe me, check the following statement: "All religions work like the Nigerian Prince scam.". I dare you to find an exception.

@rschreck 4 ай бұрын

‘Seeing how the sausage is made’ - love this

@Reason1717 4 ай бұрын

Excellent show again. Eve is just a joy. I didn't know about the Tape of life...YIKES!

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

unfortunally this did not help you and your life, just thsi cult called atheism.

@Reason1717 4 ай бұрын

@@exceptionallyaverage3075 Um... I think you replied to the wrong comment... is my guess.

@exceptionallyaverage3075 4 ай бұрын

@@Reason1717 I'm sorry. I don't know how that happened. That . . . person have left multiple comments and I'm trolling threm. I'll delete the comment.

@MrWyzdum 4 ай бұрын

Even as an atheist boy the purity culture boomeranged and turned into an obsession for sex. Before i had any idea what it all meant i was obsessed with sexual thoughts about girls. I wish i would've been able to think about anything else, but it was just the most important thing to me back then.

@VaughanMcCue 4 ай бұрын

EwF, thanks for sharing your experience. The story will impact people at the bottom of the world here in Western Australia. We know, for it is written, that the words that come from the mouth of Eve, who escaped from that frame-up, will not return to her empty. Look at the trees that give hell to asthma and rhinitis victims.

@Alessandro-B 4 ай бұрын

"Eve" is now my favourite atheist channel on IG.

@James-qo7uz 4 ай бұрын

Great conversation, I would love a discussion on methods of actually constructive conversation with people who disagree. Our nation needs more open minded moderates who are willing to accept other ideals and aren’t afraid of people who are different and that they are under attack from different people

@juliamira9621 4 ай бұрын

The way I read Genesis, God told Adam not to eat the apple BEFORE Eve was created. So Eve could go ahead and eat it, she wasn't told not to. Right?

@EricTheRed98 2 ай бұрын

Listening to the last half of Eves interview has me so hopeful for my sister. Eve is literally listing off my sisters progression in her faith right now. She dosent belive in hell, she hates christians stance on LGBTQ issues and wants to reduce a persons need for an abortion. I told her the last time we talked that shes gonna end up being an atheist like me.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@revenantband1 4 ай бұрын

There's so much harm inflicted on both boys and girls. As the 10CC song says, Big boys Don't Cry. Real men hide their feelings. And little girls are told that "That's not ladylike". It sucks.

@leonticonderoga-h6i 3 ай бұрын

Believing "lustful" thoughts to be sinful and hating yourself for those thoughts is absolute hell.

@Furball891 4 ай бұрын

I have read an interesting take that Eve really was more or less framed, since in the Bible God spoke to Adam about the tree before even creating Eve. So the fall of man was really the first man failing to protect his wife.

@johnmcnairn6822 4 ай бұрын

Excellent conversation :)

@milascave2 4 ай бұрын

Those Christian stories of Lilith are MUCH more prevalent in Jewish folklore.

@MisterG2323 2 ай бұрын

Congrats to EwF! Best wishes for a happy life!

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 9 күн бұрын

@peterprentice9179 4 ай бұрын

marrying young is just so reckless . . .

@vedinthorn 4 ай бұрын

Not marrying young statistically more dangerous.

@peterprentice9179 4 ай бұрын

@@vedinthorn dangerous how?

@vedinthorn 4 ай бұрын

@@peterprentice9179 higher chance of having children with disabilities after the mid 30s, higher chance of never getting married at all while still trying to have romantic relationships which results in compounding emotional distress from failed relationships and lower and lower chances of ever having children at all, prolonged financial stress, decreased emotional support. All of that is generally the stats, but presuming one marries a well adjusted loyal spouse, they become way more pronounced. It's true that marrying UNWISELY young can lead to all kinds of problems. My fiance found that out the hard way. However, marrying young but relatively carefully leads to vast amounts of increased long-term fulfillment by every metric.

@Silenttalker22 4 ай бұрын

Before, and after, Thunderf00t got out of the atheism game because he didn't like how it was getting so anti-sjw and gamergatey, he'd field the "stick to science" when he'd get political. He usually responded with "Yeah let's leave it to the gameshow host instead".

@herbieshine1312 4 ай бұрын

I love listening to Eve and of course Seth. Eve seems such a charming person. Shes great when she hosts on The Line. Eager to listen and have an honest open conversation. She seems to find it very annoying and strange when people phone in and troll or haven't ever actually thought about their religious beliefs and claims.

@Eric_01 4 ай бұрын

Don't get married. The end. Just love someone and leave the State out of it.

@joe_karry 4 ай бұрын

In France we have something called PAC, you have every financial advantage, but religion or heterosexuality is not even asked about

@centaur7607 4 ай бұрын

I always thought purity rings were gross.

@brianroyster7510 4 ай бұрын

I was meandering through deconstruction when I first became aware of the purity movement. I found it to be so gross that it actually helped me find the religion exit door.

@centaur7607 4 ай бұрын

The people I knew with purity rings in high school violated the religious purity requirement for wearing them, btw. They didn't take off the rings though.

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

and where is God in your life?

@brianroyster7510 4 ай бұрын

@@D.MarcelloRadice which one?

@tommyhayes8702 4 ай бұрын

@@D.MarcelloRadice Gone, thankfully. You want to believe it, fine, but you will not force it on me or anyone else that doesn't want it.

@VivisSymphony 4 ай бұрын

Love her content!

@Bgtrfvcde 4 ай бұрын

Seth and Eve work well together. Look forward to more!

@PennyBurns-v9n 4 ай бұрын

Could the Lilith story actually be allegorical about the change from a Matriarchal Society to Patriarchal? Just wondering.,

@adamc1966 4 ай бұрын

Probably why she was cut from the modern Bible 👍

@erinimagines 4 ай бұрын

I was the same way, constantly praying the "sinner's prayer" , doubting God, ... Even as a teenager. And i was always told not to question...

@trafficjon400 4 ай бұрын

Yes ' it also made me less willing to look in to my self thinking I wasn't worth the time of day. it got me thinking I was a low self less person and decided to go out making friends and feeling a guilt trip over it. today its natural but it took all that time to believe it and many noticed a difference telling me not to feel down for no reason.

@D.MarcelloRadice 4 ай бұрын

and why do not you doubt atheism as a cult???

@tommyhayes8702 4 ай бұрын

@@D.MarcelloRadice Because atheism is not a cult. Cults require supplicants and sanctified ritual and belief, most importantly. That you would even ask this question tells me that you are not ready for this conversation. You should think before you speak. Indoctrination has robbed your mind of its capacity.

@herbieshine1312 4 ай бұрын

@@D.MarcelloRadicestrawman

@johnhavel7685 Ай бұрын

What eve said about alleviating the need for abortion is exactly what I started thinking about a few years ago around the same time I really started questioning things. Realizing that the things that would stop abortion from being necessary in the first place by solving the root issues or at least using data backed methods were not supported by many pro life groups really made me pissed that I had gone my whole life thinking the goal was to end abortion yet things like contraceptive access and better quality sex ed were not supported by prolifers oh man that irritated me. I was like what kind of hypocrites are these people to say one thing and do another when if they had just focused on the auxiliary issues we might not even ever needed to have the debate about whether abortion should be legal or whether it was moral. I as someone who genuinely cared about it saw these solutions and was quick to jump on board because they were obviously the best tools for the job of minimizing abortions to the point where no one would even care anymore. And to me the best future was one not where someone might want or need an abortion ut could not access it because of bans in the law but rather a world where people who didn’t want kids or for whatever reason didn’t want to have them at that time just didn’t get pregnant and one where rape and incest were no longer a thing because everyone understood they were terrible acts and would never do something like that to someone else and one where the remaining unfortunate situations where the life of the mother or the baby were in peril would one day be remedied by our advances in medical technology so that they were correctable and no lives were lost. I wanted a world where no one chose abortion because no one needed or wanted one and all those other issues which I had thought pretty much universally accepted as good seemed the best way forward. Anyway that was a major eye opener for me.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 9 күн бұрын

@yew2oob954 29 күн бұрын

Oh...I figured "Eve"..."was framed"....because clearly, she's picture perfect!!😍

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 9 күн бұрын

@yew2oob954 9 күн бұрын

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 God is sinless? He literally created evil!! God is an imaginary friend. It's for children. Grow up.

@lesscott4301 4 ай бұрын

I talk about trees as poof that complex things can be created by random events. A tree's shape is the product of natural processes. Wind, disease, browsing, sun intensity etc.

@sassy19762000 3 ай бұрын

I accompanied my aunt to "Charisma Bible College" in Woodland, Colorado. I was born in a cult : WorldWide Church of God and got out as SOON as I could. So, to accompany her there was VERY triggering. Nonetheless, The 7 Mountain Mandate is VERY STRONG over there. They are teaching the next generation of leaders in the 7 fields mentioned in your podcast. IT. IS. SCARY. They believe they can work up the system, beginning with politics. We can see them in action with a specific political party with their own narrative.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@annebowman5954 2 ай бұрын

Wow..I knew America was more religious than Australia, but I had no idea it was so extreme... I'm so glad I live in a much more secular, and tolerant society.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@audreyeaves3536 4 ай бұрын

My friend went to Bethel supernatural school of ministry. I wonder if she was there the same time as Eve was Framed. I was an evangelical Christian at the time and her friends from there weirded me out! I did not grow up in a charismatic tradition.

@centaur7607 4 ай бұрын

I had an aunt who said "look at the birds!" I was a believer, but I still laughed at that and thought to myself that birds came about from evolution.

@ImGoingSupersonic 4 ай бұрын

Which they certainly did

@ashleytheseeker8480 4 ай бұрын

In the Quran, it talks about looking at birds and how it is Allah who keeps them afloat in the sky. I would use that ayah to be in awe of God. More so because that's what I was told to be in awe about and never learned how birds fly😅

@trafficjon400 4 ай бұрын

When I was a Kid I thought evolution was a high place in the revelations. 🙄🤗

@centaur7607 4 ай бұрын

@@ashleytheseeker8480 Knowledge is the destroyer of faith. As Christopher Hitchens said "it's called Faith because it isn't knowledge."

@RickReasonnz 4 ай бұрын

@@trafficjon400 Ah yes, the oft-forgotten Book of Evolution according to Darwin :P

@neilclaypoole7529 4 ай бұрын

Eve is a wonderful woman keep up your great work

@ProgressOnly 4 ай бұрын

Rebecca St James mentioned! I remember when she came and performed for my parents radio station in the mid 90s 🤣

@testrabbit 3 ай бұрын

The reason it's going to even happen in a delivery room is we haven't perfected exogenesis tech yet and we don't lay eggs due to HERV.

@joykeebler1916 4 ай бұрын

- the song WINDS OF CHANGE/Scorpions

@TrishRyan-ey8go 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely Absolutely ❤❤😂🎉❤ love ❤️ and appreciate you Eve! Yes! 👍 your styles very very very much compliment each other! I can Most Definitely Definitely relate to Both of you guys! I used to be a Look at the Ocean 🌊 person”went to 6 years of Catholic School 🏫 too! I was Heavily indoctrinated!!! I am a nurse now a hospice nurse what 1/1000 decent God would have a child die of cancer ♋️??? The hell they go thru is way way beyond what most people know!

@guillermoperezsantos 4 ай бұрын

Medusa was framed too, BIG TIME

@RickReasonnz 4 ай бұрын

Dig in to myth, and you'll find countless stories that boil down to "it's a womans fault."

@tkat6442 4 ай бұрын

So was Mona Lisa!!😂😂😂

@TheAtheistMexican78 4 ай бұрын

“obviously people can change.” I don’t know what to do with this notion, but I would caution that the obviousness of it is not as true for those of us who have religious trauma, but never had the same kind of personal faith that required deconstruction on our part. Add to that the devout people around us who refused to change politically. To say it is obvious that people can change just does not ring true. That is why this channel and the work that @evewasframed are doing seem so important to me. Even with my minor trouble at this particular little statement. I would also hope that, while I agree, it does not help things, the harsh things that some atheists will say come from some pretty painful places. At least that’s how it is with me.

@uncleanunicorn4571 4 ай бұрын

I would write a longer comment commiserating and congratulating, but now i have to find the episode on the Line with both of you together!

@bulkvanderhuge9006 3 ай бұрын

Conditioned Response....there are certain phrases said to me, that make me want to automatically respond with "And also with you"

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@bulkvanderhuge9006 2 ай бұрын

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Yet god wiped out everybody on earth because he screwed up the first time.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@@bulkvanderhuge9006 God is not responsible foryour actions You are free to choose your actions but not free to choose the consequences. Somebody may choose to speed but the consequence of breaking the law is a fine. You can choose to live in sin and go to hell or repent and turn to Jesus and go to heaven. You decide how you will live your current life; God decides your afterlife. Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

@bulkvanderhuge9006 2 ай бұрын

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I stopped believing in Fairy Tales at a very early age.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 2 ай бұрын

@@bulkvanderhuge9006 This is nort a fairy tale People underestimate hell, it is bad because it is separation from God. In a vision I was shown a person who claimed to be Christian but started fornication (premarital sex), He died relatively young and went to hell forever (1 Cor 6:9). God’s holiness means He will not coexist with sinners forever therefore Repent (Luke 13:3) and have a relationship with Jesus.

@Number1ZERO69 4 ай бұрын

I have a huge crush on this woman😍

@Dee.Murphy 4 ай бұрын

Added “ ED”, first thing I thought of was erectile disfunction. 😂😊

@discontinuedmodel232 4 ай бұрын

HEY! I resemble that remark! 😡

@titusgray4598 4 ай бұрын

I thought that too, and then I felt a bit deflated

@discontinuedmodel232 4 ай бұрын

@@titusgray4598 If there was a god - and that god actually cared about humans - he would have made sure that certain functions of our bodies wouldn't start going south long before our actual expiration date - just saying! 🙁 I kid, I kid - it is painfully obvious that humans didn't evolve over tens of thousands of years to live as long as we often do in 2024 CE. Longevity is a pretty recent thing in the grand scheme of human evolution. But hey, I'll take a "managed decline" of my body & mind over a pine box, that's for sure! 👍