Evelo Omega Review: A Magical Automatic eBike

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[@CharlesSmith-io9fp]

It's strange that nobody has mentioned the 4-year 20,000-mile warranty. Pretty much end to end except for consumables like tires. I've had a Delta X for 4.5 years now. Using the two lowest gears 90% of the time, I still get anywhere in town within 25 minutes or less at between 14 and 18 mph. My EVELO was definitely worth the cost. The company does not know I'm endorsing it, but I like it that much. I also don't know of any company in America who will match this warranty with the same coverage.

[@NOWitsOKto]

Although I think you are right on nearly all things about the Omega, being that I've owned what I think is the competitor's bike for a year now it didn't cost $8000 and still doesn't. Of course, I could be wrong and it's a different competitor. Me being a person who loves to pedal, would like to see a throttle on my bike, but having put thousands of miles on it already, don't really miss it. The torque sensor is one of my must-haves on an e-bike. Now with that out of the way, is the Omega a good value? Absolutely. Riding an e-bike with basically a CVT transmission lets you forget about shifting and have fun like when you were a kid.

[@orianthoward7388]

I’m very impressed with this eBike. I like the thumb throttle! ❤

[@charlienyc1]

Ha, this has a lot in common with my Atlas. I laughed when you talked about the seat, which I upgraded a few hours ago. Now it's like riding on a cloud. Anyone interested in the Omega or Atlas should know the additional battery is not available immediately. It didn't matter to me as I don't need that kind of range. I'm waiting on my rear rack, though.

[@srobeck77]

Upgraded the seat and adding on a suspension seat post on all ebikes is a must.

[@sbukosky]

After further though, here's some constructive criticism for them; The technology seems great but put on that platform, it isn't worth it to me. For the price, I'd want a larger diameter headlight, so I appear nearer rather than farther away to cross traffic. It should be able to pulse or flash. A larger and better located rear light. Also, able to flash. A rear rack so I have someplace to put my jacket. A choice of saddles upon ordering. Here's an idea. How about a factory provided Apple Air Tag holder? Lectric included a nice strong folding lock for my $1K XP 3.0. As it is, I don't see it worth the money to me, but I do wish them good luck and will keep them on the radar.

[@erikkpritchard]

Bike is currently at $2600.

[@IYG-x7c]

$2399

[@steven_baconbits]

That's more than half the price of the new CSC e-motorcycle coming out, and right up there with the Metacycle(when it shows up). So it's a great display of technology for people who do get to ride it

[@kingdavidcoffee]

I have a Van Moof with an automatic transmission. Nice bike for a lot less money.

[@47f0]

How's that working out? Evelo is still in business.

[@kingdavidcoffee]

My bike is working just fine. Thank you. I’ve been told by other Van Moof owners that they service Center is open for business. As far as I know, McLaren has purchased the company.

[@RedSinter]

Well, first off it tick's a lot of my personal boxes, Belt Drive, Check. Overall Design Asthenic, Check, Mid Drive, Check. Automatic with get out of Jail, Check. Power 750 minimum, Check. The $ is the stumbling block...I could go $3500, but S4,600 plus Axe likely $5000 delivered a box is sadly a box I can't check . However, down the road (pun intended) I'd imagine once R and D have been satisfied and Market Competition moves in this direction the $ may or likely come down to my ability. Overall though I really like the concept though I'd also like something with mild to medium off road possibilities as I'm thinking lakeside trails and regular street, hill riding.

[@peach495]

This bike sells for 3 grand now. I' got one 2 months ago.

[@IYG-x7c]

​@@peach495correction.....it sells for $2399

[@stevemuskie]

Right now their Black Friday sale price is $4199, down $500, with free shipping and 21 day trial with free return shipping! Very tempting!

[@eliwol3789]

This bike and the Dost are the coolest ebikes

[@2NDFLB-OUNCE]

▪️ Yeah, I got that dost kope over a year ago and it's been pretty nyce. 🧊

[@carriebartkowiak]

The prices these EV companies are PUSHING to get the industry to is honestly pushing me to get my M classification and a gas-powered motorcycle. I love my ebike, but I'm not going to pay $4.6k for WAY less miles, less power, and less speed, when I could just get a motorcycle for less.

[@markelliott58]

My thoughts exactly. Bicycling is a completely different ethic from ICE riding but you can choose from a very large variety of motorcycles for $5K...

[@scb2scb2]

@edwong3 Why would i want a ICE bike when i want to drive around dutch cities and bike paths ? Makes no sense many people want to bike and some want to get a better quality bike and are willing to pay for having things automatically done like 'shifting' (i put it in air quotes since it doesn't really shift from gear to gear but uses a planets to continues change transfer). By the time someone gets his ICE motorcycle out and going i am already probably 50% of the trip i want to take. The whole idea is to make bicycle riding quicker/nicer not to change into a car on 2 wheels or even a real car with 4 wheels... I don't use this brand but a Riese and Muller (german brand) that uses some of the same parts as shown here and it costs even more because other parts are well better and you pay for that nothing is free in bicycles these days.

[@letsgoOs1002]

Maintenance is the big one. These have almost zero maintenance. Plus no insurance, registrations, and depending how you buy taxes. Also no license is needed as well.

[@mikev6046]

I was under the impression that there is a EV tax rebate on the ebikes now in the US. Upto $1500

[@letsgoOs1002]

@@mikev6046 nope there is no federal rebate

[@Zarcoil]

great bicycle. would be great to have it as second lazy/commute style ride.

[@ScottOstr]

Hope Lectric does this down the road

[@47f0]

This isn't Lectric's market. This is for folks who want a Riese and Muller at a less unreasonable price.

[@TheAETHER22]

Are we ever going to see normal prices? Im not paying the same money for a 600cc supersport motorcycle

[@DriverJ-N]

I’ve seen non electric bicycles cost $14k 😂🤷‍♂️

[@shahan1465]

Exactly. It's so stupid. It's an electric pedal bike fffs.

[@srobeck77]

You should pay more for an ebike than a 600cc motorbike which requires a special license, insurance, yearly tabs, and after all that, you still cant drive on bikes trails.

[@TheAETHER22]

@@srobeck77 the ebike will get stolen the same day you leave it outside. The 600cc is a lot harder to steal. You need a van

[@srobeck77]

@@TheAETHER22 Ive locked mine up outside several times per week while I went into various stores for 2 years now, so your make believe hypothetical, sucks.

[@makeitgrand]

I prefer that get outta jail free card.

[@srobeck77]

dont do the crime if u cant do the time

[@woodsculptor675]

Impressive, but I can't crunch the numbers (while I'm crunching the gears)!!!🙄 Great vid.

[@srobeck77]

Its an automatic, so you wont be crunching the gears.

[@suzettecalleja3122]

How much does it weigh?

[@handsoffanomaly7]

For an extra $50 you can purchase a handlebar mounted shifter that pairs with your phone app to let you do the shifting manually. I love my Omega, though the riding position is a bit higher than I would prefer. Also, it took me awhile to figure out that I could choose a "0" (zero) power assist, instead of the default lower level of "1" one) when I prefer standing up pedaling. If you have any power assist selected other than zero you get the funky feeling at the bottom of your pedal stroke where your foot slushes through with no resistance. And, while I like the power, it would be cool if they came out with a 1,000 watt upgrade motor. :-)

[@srobeck77]

Oh hell no, thats one of the best features of the bike and why the higher cost to get that automatic shifting. That would be like swapping out a vastly superior automatic on my car for a manual transmission.

[@darinsmith2458]

Does the throttle turn the crank or the hub?

[@47f0]

Neither - This is a mid-drive, and the motor drives the chainring, and the cranks freewheel. You can literally spin the cranks backwards while on throttle.

[@darinsmith2458]

@@47f0 so the motor drives the chainring.. thanks...

[@CharlesSmith-io9fp]

@@darinsmith2458 Yes.

[@84imreplica]

This bike would be perfect for my wife, but unfortunately Evelo doesn't ship to Canada.

[@stumarston6812]

Not sure about the rest of Canada, but in Ontario this bike is illegal. It's a 750 W motor. Can't have more than 500 W in Ontario.

[@srobeck77]

@@stumarston6812 lol thats what a communist government will do to ya--high taxes and overregulation

[@geemy9675]

I think if I had an automatic bike or ebike I wouldn't want a fixed cadence but more like a cadence range, with a slower cadence when I'm pedalling lightly and a higher cadence when pedalling hard, to be closer to how I would operate manual gears. you have higher output when pedalling faster. but I understand it could be hard to tune the transmission since if you push harder and the transmission "shifts" to a higher cadence, you now have less pedalling resistance which would make you naturally reduce your effort, so it could end up hunting for the right gear, and be even less intuitive than the dumb fixed cadence setting. it might work with a very progressive rpm /torque curve ? this is probably ok for commuter and average climbs but I wouldn't want that on a emtb..also if you are looking for a good workout despite using an ebike, pedalling at different cadences makes the workout more complete by working on both strength and cadence whereas constant cadence would be more like running on a treadmill at a constant speed

[@47f0]

I've seen an optional wireless cadence selector that goes on the right handlebar if you want to go "manual" - keeping in mind that manual on an infinitely variable transmission doesn't mean shifting from one gear to the next so much as just tuning the ratio.

[@joegoetz8884]

$4000+…? Cool bike, but hard no for this working man.

[@srobeck77]

its now $2800, time to work less and bike more

[@danny_the_K]

I think it’s about $2,000 overpriced. If the extended battery puts it around $5250-5300, another 2 grand will get you a Sondors Metacycle, and there is no pedaling, and it’s road worthy. Enough said.

[@srobeck77]

By "road worthy" you mean you need a special motorcycle license, insurance, yearly tabs, and cant drive it on bike trails. Nuff said

[@HisSadShadow]

Magic ? Does it run on unicorn farts ?

[@makeitgrand]

More like Christ walking on the water.

[@srobeck77]

Says it magically shifts, not powered by magic. Just like how the car you drive "magically" shifts gears.

[@jnb756]

There is just not enough gotta have it in the technology to justify the price. It's a nice enough bike - looks slow but that could have just been the way you rode it - but it is not worth an extra $2000 to not have to shift and have a gates belt drive.

[@sbukosky]

I like the technology but, I can buy two other ebikes, such as an Ariel Rider Kepler. But the same can be said for electric cars. I'll let the wealthy enthusiasts pay off the development expenses and wait for supply to bring the price down.

[@2NDFLB-OUNCE]

▪️ Yeah, that kepler does look pretty good... 🧊

[@jman6109]

Probably cost them$1k to build. Better slap a $4600 price tag on it!

[@hasan_z]

Why can't you name the competitor unless this is just an advert lol

[@scb2scb2]

I can i use a Riese & Muller with the same drive system and integration with a bosch cx motor and controller it drives very well.

[@bigwheelsturning]

But is it UL approved for the electrical systems? No one wants to spend 4.5K and burn their house down.

[@CharlesSmith-io9fp]

It charges on a 120v circuit. The battery itself is 48V 15AH Samsung In Frame Battery - Optional 14.5AH Rear Rack Battery Add-On

[@ace2125]

This review is ridiculous with the loud music competing with the dialog. Get it together dude it gave me a headache lol.

[@mariorodriguez2299]

To expensive !!!!😢

[@bobbybecker80]

$4200 with $500 off; what a joke.

[@giedrius2149]

We had this on a cargo bike (I worked as a delivery driver). Absolute garbage. You can adjust when exactly it changes gear but you will never be able to predict it. And when it shifts in the wrong moment you get that pleasant metal crunch sound. Also there is no way these are cheap. Sure internal gears need less maintenance than external ones, but considering the massive price difference and the fact that the work to maintain external gears is barely nothing, it's just a waste of money. And the feeling of perfectly shifting into the higher gear yourself is just chef kiss Seriously, if normal gears bother you the problem is not the bike. It's you. Like? "People who are intimidated by shifting"?? I swear if gear shifting already throws you off, you shouldn't even ride a bike for the safety of everyone. Same people that can't read the road signs while riding because it is too complicated for them

[@scb2scb2]

Nonsense it doesn't have 'gears' at all that can do 'crunch' sound since it uses balls and oil to transfer power there is nothing to make a weird sound while it slides from low too high or back. The automatiq box just controls the angle on which the balls transfer power and create the different settings. When pulling away from say a stoplight you go 'through' the 'gears' in matter of a few seconds to the needed position while keeping your cadence without sound. I can only talk about how its used by Riese & muller (with bosch integration) since i own that. Being dutch i can perfectly 'read the road' and have used normal and internal hubs all my life the fact i now can go way smoother riding without shifting means i can always have 2 fingers on each brake at all time if i want claiming a extra action (shifting) is somehow proof i am a 'better' rider is just silly. Also the moment if shifting (or better sliding i guess) is totally predictable and i am always amazed it changes at the same moments i would have done it. The 'you can adjust it when it changes gear' makes me think you have used a different system maybe a normal internal hub with some electronic controls like vanmoof or others use not a enviolo planet based system. There is one point that is true the whole system of enviolo hub, automatiq box and integration with a controller is not cheap these parts alone cost about 800usd/euro. So will probably only be used on bikes in the $3500 to $8000 range.

[@WrecklessSandwich]

It's a CVT, so you aren't gonna have those same problems with shifting as a normal internal gear hub.

[@47f0]

No you didn't. You may have had some kind of planetary geared hub, but this is not that. No gears to crunch, and the mechanism is perfectly happy shifting to any setting, at any speed or cadence.

[@lav1daloca]

You can get a car for less

[@scb2scb2]

Until you start driving it how is the price of gas these days.

[@lav1daloca]

@@scb2scb2 Thats how you know EV heads are retards, where do you think electricity comes from?

[@scb2scb2]

@@lav1daloca in my case from solar panels and putting fuel in my 'ebike' cost very little even if you would use normal power compared to a car. Depending on where you are and current prices about 40cents per 100km.

[@scb2scb2]

@@lav1daloca And before you call me a EV retard i got my car mechanic license in the 1980's not many EV's around back then.

[@lav1daloca]

@@scb2scb2 How do you think solar panels are made? Battery EVs are a scam and only a retard can't see it. They only want people to move to battery EVs for full on control all while they're hiding the Nikola Tesla free energy motor thats been around for over 100years. I'll stick to my old school bicycle and padal around until we get the free energy motor in a few short years after WW3 if we make it through.

[@jimwortham8634]

Absolutely complete waste of time by Vespa scooter

[@srobeck77]

you can drive scooters on bike trails now?

[@ec.marquez]

that bike sells for 5K ??? wow

[@Tec2Nut]

New tec always expensive, give it a few years

[@weedo3]

$4200, no thanks

[@bravefriendlykid]

Way too much money lol

[@juanjoportable]

Frey eBike territory basically. 4122$ for the Savannah ULTRA now, 1500w peak, 17.5Ah battery, high-end dual suspension and brakes, much better specs/features.