Even More Missing FX in DKCR HD?! + One Big Downgrade

[@deltaquarayza]

Brand new Zelda: $60 Brand new Mario & Luigi: $60 Port of 14 year old wii game with no new features:

[@WllKiedSnake]

I think it's based on the 3ds version.

[@Sairiui]

and they're still expecting 60? Nah. I've seen better quality through the Dolphin emulator.

[@patricialos7478]

brand new mario party thats the biggest and best one in the series: $60 brand new fitness boxing that seems to improves manny things of the previus games with manny more feuchures: $50 port of 14 year old wii game with new content of the 3DS version that looks slightly better with no new things: $60

[@questworldmatrix]

If it helps, that new Zelda will still be $60 in 14 years.

[@WllKiedSnake]

@questworldmatrix It will probably be worth more.

[@a18yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

I really don’t get Nintendos logic sometimes. So Prime is 40 but this is 60? Legit why? I already own the game twice so I doubt I get it a third time

[@ItApproaches]

Probably cause DK sells more then Metroid.

[@marcons7452]

It so obvious,DK sell Games,Metroid have more dificults to sell Games

[@a18yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

@@ItApproaches true

[@Training_Wheels]

​@@ItApproachesthat makes his case even stronger then..

[@ranpan6082]

I'm not getting this. Aside from the price, this seems low effort. The only reason to buy this is if you didn't like the motion controls on the Wii, and to access the exclusive 3DS content.

[@guybrush3000]

as someone who has worked on games, it’s very frustrating when marketing shows off unfinished work. the creators probably didn’t intend on anyone to see this stuff. this video is stressing me out

[@GameXplain]

Haha sorry for causing you stress! That's a completely understandable reaction. Here's hoping it all comes together in the end :)

[@Austinator0630]

Well, Retro Studios wasn't involved at all. Forever Entertainment is responsible for this.

[@knuclear200x]

@@Austinator0630 That's not an excuse. You're just as much deflecting that the new company isn't doing a better job

[@Austinator0630]

@@knuclear200x Forever Entertainment being responsible for this port explains why the visuals aren't all that great.

[@WllKiedSnake]

​@@Austinator0630Did like the Panzer Dragoon Remake they made. And Front Mission Evolved 1&2.

[@Necro-Squid]

Mind you, this game was marked down to $20 on both Wii U Virtual Console and 3DS for YEARS. I don't know about you but if i'm going to pay 3 times as much for a game that's over a decade old I'd like to see significant improvements

[@Musdeko]

The fact that they improved some things from the previous trailer really gives me hope! I didn't think that the "it's still a couple months till the release!" excuse would really be true

[@girahimar2122]

If only they could hage added an extra world or 2

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Stop being a damn consumer

[@SALTYTOAD00]

​@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 All he said is that he's glad the footage has improved from last time. No need to lash out at him.

[@45yearsold]

​@SALTYTOAD00 It's barely improving 💀Nintendo can't even do a simple job of porting games.

[@SALTYTOAD00]

​@@45yearsold This series isn't even developed by them.

[@Nin10doLetsPlay]

DKCR HD got the still water update 💀

[@boyonthephone4331]

those who know

[@Nin10doLetsPlay]

@@boyonthephone4331 ☠️

[@HelloSayEm6]

​@@boyonthephone4331I don't, care to explain?

[@boyonthephone4331]

@@HelloSayEm6 so idk about other social media platforms but this is/was a massive instagram meme culture recently. It's basically all kinds of posts of people filming still water in mysterious locations hinting at brain eating amoebia with texts like "those who know 💀". I think it started with people jumping into still water which led people to comment "those who know 💀" which in turn became massive brain rot meme culture. Just look up 'still water' and 'those who know' and you'll be greeted by lots of brain rot memes :D

[@HelloSayEm6]

@boyonthephone4331 Well that's just weird.

[@CrazyAngry08]

And yet, they still charging $60 for this.

[@wrldonwill]

You're paying for the name.

[@nowonmetube]

Yeah. Not for me.

[@Training_Wheels]

Just play it with your zipper down, and it will be like less than that it'll be more like 45 or something... Yeah

[@Training_Wheels]

Just for the record, I'm talking about the zipper on your jacket hoodie... Just don't want to get misconstrued as one of those bagel biters

[@Thunderstorm789]

You'll be fine once the game releases. This also happened with Luigi's Mansion 2

[@Domtendo]

Oh my god DK didn't deserve this...

[@Nin10doLetsPlay]

@@Domtendo Hi Domi :)

[@benmalsky9834]

You’re overreacting.

[@benmalsky9834]

Didn’t deserve what?

[@sinenomine3517]

Isso

[@ben1ben]

Betrug

[@BusyMEOW]

I don't like how DK looks too brown on the switch, he needs a tinge of orange like the Wii original and the Snes games.

[@juanmarty1499]

I prefer the brown color, but It is not an issue

[@Maubari]

Haha

[@CaptainDoge1]

Retro actually spent a whiiiiiile to get DK’s color right to make him stand out from, say, the wood and whatnot in the backgrounds. This new developer probably slightly adjusted to better fit with some of the new lighting and texturing on the background objects.

[@GameRock06]

That's racist

[@kevinfromsales9445]

Yeah I don't know why HD remasters do this, it clearly looks darker but at the same time it looks more detailed on Switch.

[@soulubilityofficial6635]

Dude, I’m so disappointed. It’s legit been a decade since the last new donkey Kong game. And it’s been 30 years since the first country game released. I love returns, and I have the 3DS port. But with that, at least they had an excuse to downgrade the graphics given the limitations of the hardware. As much as I love returns, I don’t think I’m gonna be paying 60 bucks for this. DK deserves better.

[@gustavochavarria8161]

For real bro!! I have enjoyed Tropical Freeze last year until I sadly lost my game but I managed to complete the gane 100% *TWICE!!* So the fact these idiots are wasting so much time on another port *NO ONE ASKED FOR* leaves a sour taste to everyone's mouth. And don't get me started of how they also f(guitar feedback) up the DLC for Smash Ultimate. *I'LL NEVER FORGIVE THEM FOR F(guitar feedback)ING UP THE DLC!!!* These idiots had *ONE JOB!!!*

[@arachnid_eater]

Agreed. Im hoping this is just because were getting a new dkc on the switch 2, otherwise screw them.

[@Xearrik]

This game is a hard pass for me. They need to be punished for shoddy work. I'm not running a charity for billion dollar companies. I expect better. Doubly so for 60 bucks. I would have passed for 30 bucks with this sort of work. Even indie studious do better than this when re-releasing their games. Thanks for being informative and making a nice video like this. I'm glad Xenoblade X is looking worth the money so far!

[@zediahtimmons9704]

Got to remember Retro Studios wasn't in charge of the HD remaster

[@loek7531]

That's because Retro Studios always makes sure to deliver a quality product. Idk who was behind this remaster but they fucked up big time.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

​@@loek7531 It's Forever Entertainment

[@JasonGyattollah2542]

@@TicTacToeCraft the people who made Realpolitiks?

[@TicTacToeCraft]

@PAINt0theMAX Well, they published it. Jujubee, a Polish development team, developed the game.

[@chesire9719]

It's strange that this port for the Switch seems like a downgrade, especially considering that earlier, for the Nvidia Shield in China, they released official ports of several Wii games, including *Donkey Kong Country Returns*, where the Nvidia Shield port looks more HD than this one.

[@NathAnarchy45]

the worst part is we have had NO new donkey kong game since the Wii U Will the next console finally have a new dk game

[@NathAnarchy45]

Also $60 for a 10 year old inferior re-release is insane

[@Austinator0630]

The actual last original DK game to date is Mini Mario & Friends: Amiibo Challenge released in 2016 for the Wii U & 3ds eShop.

[@IAmNotASandwich453]

Pretty sure theyre building up to something. It is very obvious how they have been releasing all the DK country games on switch over the last months

[@TheJadeFist]

Maybe Nintendo is all self conscious about how DK TF was better than any side scrolling mario game, and still shows up Wonder by leaps and bounds. Therefore a sequel can't be allowed to happen, even if everyone wants a sequel.

[@Vindisk]

@@NathAnarchy45 inferior is a little unfair. Over all the game looks a lot better than the original, the only real downsides are a couple backgrounds which are missing a couple small things, but calling the entire version inferior for that is a little much.

[@andrewmon4792]

Oh man, I really hope they fix that wave and bring the fur back

[@cosmicXtropics]

I hate how theyve changed DKs fur coat from light brown to dark brown. The whole game looks less vibrant and detailed. Shame.

[@Robbie_Haruna]

The game definitely has its issues graphically, but saying it's less vibrant is an objectively wrong claim. Hell that's the whole reason why DK's fur was a lighter brown in the original to begin with, because they didn't want him to blend in with the darker backgrounds too much. With the colors being more vibrant and less dark you don't really need that anymore.

[@mistkeyblade]

If the game was $40 or even $50 I can probably forgive things like this, but for $60 I expect nothing less than quality visuals

[@JRRR92]

This should be 20. The game is 14 yo.

[@benmalsky9834]

You’re still getting a terrific game though that’s very fun to play.

[@TheRogueMaverick]

See, I don't fully get this argument. SHOULD it be $60/$80(CAD)? Perhaps not. But as someone in college for game development, it's amazing the amount of work it takes to create a DEMO, let alone a full game! I made a time-attack racer in Unity and it took almost 3 months from conception to a final build. And it ONLY had 1 track with 3 difficulties. And planned features weren't added, like all 4 races or even a nitro boost. That was largely from scratch. Times that by, say, 60 levels and suddenly you have a boatload of stuff to test and ensure it works. Plus, developers don't get paid enough and are forced to crunch a lot more than you may expect. Hell, even I WAS CRUNCHING to meet that project deadline. And the Wii and 3DS versions were compiled for different CPU architecture. And while that's a lot less of an issue nowadays, even in stuff like Unity I found can be a hassle to port stuff. What rendered correctly on Windows didn't render correctly on Android. Developers deserve to be compensated for their work. And let's be honest, it's a new version of a game that needed testing to ensure it worked. Otherwise, it would launch in a buggy state. And I've seen loads of people complain about that. And like JRRR92 mentioned, yes it IS 14 years old. But people also should realize that games have often BEEN $70/$90(CAD) in the past. WHEN ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION! Like, Crash Bandicoot on the original PlayStation? If adjusted for inflation, it WOULD be just as much, if not MORE expensive than games today. Sorry for the long-winded comment. I just feel that not enough people acknowledge what goes on behind the scenes or recognize important context with some of these decisions. I'm NOT attacking anyone. If someone doesn't feel it's worth that price tag, that's fine! Great, even! But it may be worth it to others. People made a stink about Tears of the Kingdom being a $90CAD game, which I get. And while I got it on sale, I would have gotten it at $90 if I knew how much more fun I'm having over Breath of the Wild. I just hope that others can at least see and acknowledge the other side, even if they don't agree.

[@greedo6116]

@@benmalsky9834 yeah I agree you probably get $60 worth of value here it still feels wrong especially since it's not even a remake it's a remaster

[@benmalsky9834]

@ it’s really mostly for newcomers, they will find the $60 worth it.

[@zakirstocks9514]

Nintendo should REALLY needs to make a Super Brand Newest Donkey Kong Video Game.

[@maxwellrochette9646]

Agreed

[@kevincoates5066]

An open world with all the kongs like 64

[@harrybest2041]

_Super Brand Newest Donkey Kong Video Game_ (2025)

[@superbrycestudios5006]

Like “Donkey Kong World”. Based on Super Mario Odyssey. Donkey Kong and the kongs travel around the world, bumping into not only the jungle, but different places like islands, forest, modern cities, and maybe kingdoms. To spice things up, he might even bump into some cameos (maybe cameo Islands, besides or more than just the Mario series at least). The DK crew can even be involved for the finale.

[@maxwellrochette9646]

@ And with King K. Rool in it.

[@ignatiousmary8413]

I wish I still had my copy of the 3DS version.

[@GenerationZ313]

Meanwhile, I still have my digital version that I got for free thanks to Club Nintendo from when that was still a thing.

[@Aualan]

baught it for 10💶

[@eduardoaguero1220]

Get it while you can, it's really cheap right now

[@mariocooper1996]

Not only do I still have my 3DS copy but I also bought the original one for the Wii less than a year ago. That was before they announced the HD (Switch) Port.

[@AverageSphere]

Do what you want cus a-

[@M1XART]

What bothers me most is that why the hell new version does not use more polygons on Switch? Game's enviroments still look blocky and even enemies are not rounded -up.

[@JCSA79V]

Might be intentional art direction

[@EliasSchnetzer]

Because that's on a whole other level. This is just an HD reamster, not a remake. It's A LOT of work to make new character models. It creates new problems that need to be solved, and so on and on.

[@ordersquid38]

That would make it a remaster not a port

[@hugocastilla3102]

​@@ordersquid38that would make it a remake

[@Austinator0630]

This game is being worked on by forever entertainment in case you're wondering.

[@mlpfimguy]

One thing I really dislike in remastered games is the "retouched" lighting. The artists wanted the game to look a certain way, redoing it goes against their original vision

[@Gustaviustwinkelberry]

I hate it when they do this, and it hurts games that have a dark artsyle the most, demon souls remake suffers from this the most, so does dark souls remastered to an extent

[@SmartZero-f8e]

Gamecube used Realtime lighting (max. 100 Mio Rays/Second). 3DS uses realtime lighting (max. 100 Mio Rays/Second). WiiU can use both simple lighting by GPU (no RT), but it can also use an own custom realtime lighting engine (approx 10 Billion Rays/Second).

[@TheOnlyCreatch]

I would’ve preferred a straight port at this rate. Even if it meant DKs fuzz is lost, it’s unbelievable how you can make a wii game look worse than it did on 3DS.

[@jamesgames4553]

My guess is it was ported to Unity, which would be consistent with the developer’s previous remasters. There are just so many missing effects replaced with different ones that it can’t be the same game engine. And we‘ve seen HD Unity conversions of PS2 era games struggle in the past on PS4 and Switch, see Klonoa, Katamari, SMT Nocturne.

[@jamesgames4553]

Preload goes live tomorrow so I guess we’ll find out for sure! To check, hit + on the game’s icon, then go to “intellectual property notices” After seeing your amazing 3DS comparison I’m pretty confident that the game has been ported to Unity, rather than on the same underlying technology (shared by Tropical Freeze and Metroid Prime). I forgot to mention Baten Kaitos on Switch was another Unity port with questionable changes and removal of effects/graphics behavior.

[@senorsnipey1595]

I liked the darkness on Wii. The lighting Retro used was the same in Metroid Prime 3. I hope they fix some of these issues like the waves on the beach

[@SmartZero-f8e]

Game comes out in 4 weeeks...

[@unskilledgamer3642]

I just stick to my Wii for this game.

[@benmalsky9834]

This is just aimed specifically at you, but those who never played the original game.

[@benmalsky9834]

Do you understand what it means to make things accessible to the newer generations? That’s the beauty of things like this.

[@Sairiui]

@@benmalsky9834 I would rather buy a Wii for my kids. Newer doesn't always mean better.

[@coflyerinc.9367]

@@SairiuiBuying a wii and the original is literally cheaper 😭

[@YesterdaysMoose]

00:54 *SWITCH 2 CONFIRMED!* 😜

[@SomeDonkus086]

what

[@kolby125]

nin10doland

[@mangos-1]

They should give us the entire dkc show as a separate application when you buy it as compensation.

[@benmalsky9834]

Compensation for what? As long as the game is still fun to play, that’s what matters.

[@Sairiui]

@@benmalsky9834 Compensation for looking like trash and still charging full price. Got Pokemon Sword free in a b2g1 deal and I still feel like I should've chosen Dragon Quest XI instead. Pokemon is another example of being full-priced trash on Switch.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

​@@benmalsky9834 It's $60 for an arguably inferior version.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

🎶"I don't know what's happening to me I'm getting all the blame for things I didn't do Can anybody tell me just what I did wrong I'm all alone and I'm so confused I don't know what everyone wants me to be I only know just how to be me Once I was the ape of the hour They think I'm a coward An absolute zero I'm nobody's hero An absolute zero I'm nobody's hero I'm nobody's hero" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Sairiui]

@@benmalsky9834 And if it's not? Keep in mind that the guy who made sure Ninty games you remember were quality is deceased.

[@lunastifaliamusic]

Them removing fur makes literally no sense at all. We've seen Tropical Freeze running on both the Switch AND Wii U with a very smooth framerate and all the kongs HAVING FUR. Very good looking fur as well. So why is it that a game that ran on a previous console can have good fur while running smoothly, yet this remaster of a game that came out on the Wii 14 years ago suddenly is "too much for the system to handle with the fur effects"? And I understand optimization, but they literally could've used Tropical Freeze's models of DK, Diddy, and Cranky. Those models look immaculate to this day. And before you tell me about rig problems, it's a multi-billion dollar company. They can very easily weight-paint the models to the older rigs. Besides, DK's model looks... off. It's likely the AI upscaled model messing a bunch of the polygons up. I don't even know why Nintendo does this all the time, especially here where they have a perfectly good model to use.

[@SmartZero-f8e]

Simple: Fur isn´t calculated on the GPU on Wii. But on the cpu (processor). cpu of Wii is faster than Switch. More cores don´t help you in rendering (only Switch cpu advantage which then allows for things like download in background, or other background stuff like that but it won´t make your rendering faster). Also: Wii didn´t have to calculate shaders like Switch has to do it. It uses "Fixed shaders" for the GPU only. That means no calculations for graphics needed (Shaders) on the Wii. Only in Tropical Freeze they calculated the fur on the GPU now. But this is why Fur also looks worse in the WiiU/Switch DK games. Fur calculated on a processor will allways look more realistic than fur calculated on a simple GPU.

[@lunastifaliamusic]

@@SmartZero-f8e Okay, but again, Tropical Freeze was able to do fur effects perfectly and that game came out on the last gen Nintendo console and was ported to this one. And guess what? Aside from resolution, the one on Switch is identical to the Wii U version. Even when in handheld mode. And by the way, I never mentioned anything about Returns on the Wii having the kongs with fur effects. I've played it for practically my whole life of video-gaming and know that the kongs do NOT have any fur, it's just textures.

[@SmartZero-f8e]

@@lunastifaliamusic you didnt fully read my comment. Read it again! It clearly says that fur was calculated (in past games) on the processor. Modern games such as DK TF however calculate fur on the GPU instead.

[@joechill6327]

Tropical Freeze is on sale this weekend, don't miss out.

[@GameXplain]

Amazing game!

[@frisby7143]

It’s better Han this game anyway

[@corey2232]

How did they manage to make this look WORSE in some aspects? And why can't they get GC & Wii remasters to run at 60 fps on Switch hardware?! The GC came out in 2001, and the Wii was basically just a slightly improved GC. It's crazy they can't manage 60 fps on a simple remaster, let alone remakes like Paper Mario TTYD. Switch should have zero issue with that. Even worse, they have the nerve to sell these games for *FULL PRICE?!* Pass.

[@drewa4235]

The reason why those games don’t run well (like most switch games) is because the switch is underpowered af. People tend to forget just how horrible the switch hardware is.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

@drewa4235 Braindead reply. This is a Wii/3DS game. The Switch can run games such as Luigi's Mansion 3, Metroid Prime Remastered, and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. This is merely a case of a poorly done port that doesn't even come close to utilizing the Switch's capabilities. Stop talking like the Switch can't run a 3DS game at 1080p.

[@relu419]

@@drewa4235 You comment doesn't have logic. Wii is very weak in comparison with Switch which is capable of running Doom 2016 and Eternal.

[@jordanelliott0408]

Bro Remasters and remakes are completely different, GC and Wii remasters should be able to run at 60fps but the reason TTYD doesn’t is because it’s a remake, It doesn’t have the same source code and the game looks way better so of course it wont run at 60fps

[@TicTacToeCraft]

@@corey2232 If TTYD was just the GCN game upscaled, I would have agreed with you. But the game has Origami King-like visual fidelity (not quite on the same level, but almost). I think it's fair to expect the game to run like this, even though I think they should have prioritized frame rate for the remake. This is more likely a case of setting a different priorities, rather than incompetence.

[@maddestmike5791]

THIS is how they're celebrating Donkey Kong Country's 30th anniversary? Pathetic. -_-

[@Austinator0630]

Well, this is essentially the grand cumulation of losing Rare to Microsoft.

[@Bingman100]

I know you're upset now so I'll pretend you didn't say that

[@Sairiui]

@@Austinator0630 Retro Studios made DKCR, not Rare.

[@Sairiui]

@@Bingman100 Cope?

[@Austinator0630]

@@Sairiui Yes, Retro Studios made DCKR. What I'm saying is that this lackluster port is the grand cumulation of Nintendo letting go of Rare.

[@Themasktrooper]

Nintendo why would you hire a studio that makes shovel ware to make this remaster

[@boboyqc]

Who is doing that low-quality port already? Completely shameful. Nintendo needs to do more quality-checks for their games with some of their affiliates, it's been going down a dangerous slippery slope lately.

[@benmalsky9834]

You’re overreacting. These are all just pointless nitpicks of what will still be a fantastic game.

[@boboyqc]

@benmalsky9834 Sure, whatever. No point in discussing it.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

​@@benmalsky9834 You're shilling (and I'm not talking about the currency)

[@benmalsky9834]

@ No I’m not.

[@benmalsky9834]

@@TicTacToeCraft Please don’t say that!

[@WillieCorley]

I do not understand why this game looks so much worse than Tropical Freeze when Tropical Freeze ran at 1080p 60FPS on Switch.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

Because TF was a port that only added Funky Kong and increased the resolution to 1080p, like MK8DX did. This game requires more effort (because it's a remaster, not a port), which sadly is lacking.

[@Robbie_Haruna]

If I had to guess it's because the hardware between the Wii U and Switch was closer so a portjob with minimal issues isn't too difficult. When it comes to older games in particular, typically they're designed around the hardware of the old systems, which is typically wildly different and needs to be adjusted or redone to account for modern specs to some capacity, making it harder to optimize.

[@BammsSippRoppHutzLeppSippLoi]

People will be like: "This is fine! Take my money!"

[@Pokemonlyfan]

This assumes that the game is in active development and trailer material is recreated anew for each subsequent trailer. The game could as well be finished for months and the trailers are just using different footage from different stages of development.

[@Revi-j7m]

Definitely waiting for a sale. Comes off as rushed compared to other Nintendo remasters.

[@JadenT-900]

At 6:38, remember that the new trailer for the Switch version (where the Kongs now look less furry), was released only by Nintendo UK. Meanwhile, the old trailer was also released by Nintendo of America, so maybe that has something to do with the Kongs’ graphical downgrade between the 2 trailers, but I’m not certain. I certainly hope the graphics in the U.S. copies of the game end up looking the same as they did in the original trailer, but I won’t get my hopes up until I know for sure.

[@garrettchandler1948]

60 dollars is pretty wild to ask for sice thos was one of the games they re released as a Nintendo select game for 20 dollars later in the wiis life, and on wii u it was also 20 dollars on e shop. So now magical its worth 40 more dollars than before.

[@Martinn834]

Its a port of the 3ds remake which doesnt have the same effects as the wii

[@NathAnarchy45]

Yeah but that's no excuse for it to not surpass the wii

[@Martinn834]

@@NathAnarchy45 Ofc

[@davidfaisca3967]

It actually has some of the effects, but they seem to be missing on the switch.

[@WllKiedSnake]

​​@NathAnarchy45 It does surpass the Wii. In resolution. Hahahah! And ya get the 3ds levels and it's 60fps which the 3ds version wasn't.

[@Poketuber33-e6r]

They have less than 2 more months to fix this so they might want to give Retro Studios a call.

[@superwalou]

We want the OST to be remade by David Wise, and we'll forgive everything.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

It's probably the same original soundtrack. I can't remember a single Switch remaster/port from Nintendo that received a remastered soundtrack.

[@superwalou]

@ except Xenoblade, but yes I lost hope for this game 😭

[@SmartZero-f8e]

OST quality has nothing to do with the developer. But with the sound harware you have. Switch hardware is BAD for music. 3ds had a GOOD sound hardware, just like Wii and WiiU.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

@SmartZero-f8e "3DS has good sound". Yeah, sure. How is the Switch hardware even bad for music? I don't get it. If you go by the speakers, they're still miles ahead of the ones the 3DS models use.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

@SmartZero-f8e The 3DS and Wii had very few orchestrated and live-recorded music for a reason.

[@Kyle07]

I hope they will fix all the issues and create the best version of this game.

[@wrldonwill]

This game will go in the same bin I have LM2HD and Princess Peach. I'll pick these up on the second hand market in a year or two.

[@NotScared]

Lm2hd is far better than princess peach and returns hd

[@wrldonwill]

@NotScared with all due respect, that's not saying much.

[@Ckoz2829]

I played the demo for Peach and that’s all I needed to play. I played Luigi’s Mansion Dark Moon on the 3DS and it was alright, but I couldn’t stand the mission based structure of the game. I get they did that for quick pick up and play sessions, but let me explore the damn mansion without having to restart every 20 minutes.

[@arachnid_eater]

​@@NotScaredhonestly lm2 is worse

[@NotScared]

@@arachnid_eater a luigi’s mansion game cant be worse than a peach game 😂 and a donkey kong game 😂

[@Nando75549]

Wake me up when Wario Land Shake It gets ported instead.

[@benmalsky9834]

You mean “in addition”.

[@postmastergaming]

And this is why I miss the pre-render old style. This is like they making a port of the 3ds version instead.

[@G22865]

So the games industry trend is to redo old games but worse? "Experience the same thing again but not as good and pay double the price!!! Get yours now"

[@benmalsky9834]

No, that’s not the case at all.

[@enorma29]

>>make mediocre product >>people buy it anyway unless it's concord >>make millions $$$ >>repeat >>stupid people still don't boycott >>repeat >>laugh

[@Sairiui]

Pretty much. Paper Mario TTYD got the same treatment. I hate this and prefer to stick to emulation because of it.

[@RJS2003]

​@@Sairiui At least in TTYD's case it got a bunch of small refinements and even some new content, frame rate aside. Meanwhile I don't even know what happened here.

[@Max_G4]

@@RJS2003 Why is frame rate even so important for a turn based RPG? I'd say having twice the processing power per frame would be an okay trade.

[@DoctorMinjinx]

I'm really hoping this is all just out of date footage. This is my preferred game of the Retro DKC duo and I've been waiting for a definitive release for a while free of motion controls.

[@cabinetpete3028]

Rgt85 sent me. Good work my friend

As someone who really loves this game, they better not botch it. I hope this is some old build and all this has been fixed but I doubt it.

[@SmartZero-f8e]

This version uses a completetely different engine (Unity?) You cannot render same things in a different engine. And: Switch cannot run the Wii engine. Just like Swich cannot run the WiiU´s Original Xenoblade X engine. iT uses a different engine now as well (like it seems for now). Wth different (worse) lighting, some changes to the gameplay, some added content, no Miiverse content, no Miiverse invites etc. = completely different version of the game.

@SmartZero-f8e Unless there is some information I've missed that says the game has been ported to Unity, it would be ridiculous to claim this is the case. When porting a game to a new platform, any SDK calls you have in your code needs to be substituted with the equivalent call on the new platform. Not everything is going to work the same way so manual tweaks will be made to either replicate the original look. In the process, some ports may choose to also use the platforms strengths to enhance the result. Changes may also come from simply different creative decisions. The issues seen in the footage can be easily chalked up to various issues related to porting. Most ports we see will have fixed all of this already but this seems to be either footage from a very early build, an inexperienced team or a rushed job. From my quick research of Forever Entertainment, the team behind the port, they do seem to specialize in Unity and these problems could be related to their inexperience with proprietary engines like the one used in DKCR. While there are rare cases of games being ported to new engines, this process is usually about as extensive as remaking the game entirely excluding the remade visuals. Game engines are not like say car engines, you can (depending on physical dimensions) put one cars engine into another car but you can't do the same with a game. A game engine is much more equivalent to a house. You can redecorate, make new rooms or demolish rooms but if you want a different house, you have to move or start from scratch. I personally have experience working in both Unity and Unreal and they do everything so differently that porting a game from one to the other would entail redoing almost everything.

[@TheLastDrPhil]

As a person who loved this game growing up, this is so disappointing.

[@Bingman100]

Maybe you should keep your expeditions low next time you're so called "favorite game" gets a remastered on the switch.

[@TheLastDrPhil]

@Bingman100 ok

[@VelhoFarolGames]

Where do i found this new trailer, there's none on Nintendo official page on YT

[@GameXplain]

It's on their Europe (or UK?) KZbin and Twitter accounts

[@VelhoFarolGames]

@@GameXplain Ohhh, now i see, thank you my dude!

[@DeesBees85]

This is such a low effort port. It’s sad to see Nintendo allow this to happen.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

This is even worse than the Lui 2 HD situation.

[@jaye4521]

Other than the water on the beach and some lighting effects that got fixed in the newest trailer, pretty much every graphical change I've seen from this port either looks better than the Wii version or at least doesn't look objectively worse to me.

[@SALTYTOAD00]

Yes, it looks bad, but I've seen people here compare it to Sonic Colors Ultimate, which just, no. This remaster is nowhere close to how horrendous that game was.

[@benmalsky9834]

Even that game was fine in my opinion.

[@benmalsky9834]

Even that game was fine in my opinion.Like with Sonic Colors, the game itself is still great, and that’s all the matters.

[@Sairiui]

I can see why they'd say that. Poor lighting and texture changes for another Wii remaster? Checks out.

[@SALTYTOAD00]

​@@Sairiui Completely ignoring that Colors Ultimate also ruined the gameplay, and on the Switch release, legit caused seizures?

[@BrandonTheFanGuy]

Seems like they didn't wait for someone to capture all the footage on the most up to date build and used stuff they had on hand from older stuff considering stuff being out of wack inbetween shots if I was a developer on this I'd be livid at the marketing team for the inconsistency

[@Zoommedix]

Hmm… very mixed… I will say we have no idea when this footage was taken. It could have been a week ago or a month ago. So they still have time to fix things, just not a lot. We have about 75ish days before launch, so there running out of time. I would say there at least aware of the problems now, but I’m not even sure that’s true with the fur textures being downgraded this time around. There’s only a few graphical issues I have with the game now so hopefully those are patched up

[@Zoommedix]

(45ish days mb)

[@rorytheshinygmaxgengar6907]

Honestly if the game has all the content the Wii and 3ds versions had and looks better the majority of the time I am alright with it as me as a dk fan just needs something and though I wish it was a new game I am hopeful that a new dk will appear on the next console instead of another remaster like dk hd or tropical freeze

[@IronYTrain]

RGT sent the dozens... and dozens of us 😁

[@CaptainDoge1]

My thought process on the water is that they made those changes because the Switch is absolutely terrible with transparency when it comes to performance and how it visually looks even compared to the Wii and GameCube. Hopefully the water on the beach level is improved at least somewhat by release though.

[@Max_G4]

It's not really just the Switch, transparency means you have to render each pixel where it's used multiple times. Though for the water it seems a bit weird, given that the same look can be achieved without transparency. I think it's just unfinished parts being shown too early.

[@CaptainDoge1]

@ yeah that’s true. Perhaps it’s just a work in progress scrolling texture that will look a lot better in the final release.

[@MetaGamingDojo]

EWWW, why did nintendo ruined the backgrounds? This is definitely not Nintendo's greatest port or remake😭

[@BaxterSquee]

It boggles my mind how they would go OUT OF THEIR WAY to specifically remove a bunch of palm trees in the background like what

[@MoonSarito]

This feels like a rushed remaster just like Pikmin 3 on Switch that even runs at only 720p at 30fps.

[@JimboJamesShow]

RGT sent us!

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

And me.

[@diegobrando5800]

it couldve been the original DK Country but remaking an old game would actually take a bit of effort while porting a Wii game is free money

[@mezomoza7]

As a huge fan of DK, I think you a lot for these feedback videos which help Nintendo improve the game and let us the fans enjoy a better product

[@bland9876]

This was one of my favorite 3DS games because it's so dam good and I wasn't used to DKC when it dropped. I'd never played one yet. Kirby Triple deluxe is another Good one.

[@HDGamerofficial]

I really hope they fix the water, that dude from miiverse would be upset 😂

[@S.G.W.Verbeek]

We will always remember that guy 😄

[@HDGamerofficial]

@@S.G.W.Verbeek hope he’s still appreciating water in Nintendo games

[@user-crappy-cap]

At this point, Nintendo is throwing fossils at the switch before the span of it dies while only changing the lighting, and charges 60$ for a game that looks unpolished

[@TicTacToeCraft]

Then explain TTYD

[@user-crappy-cap]

Idk why I can’t reply to you, but that still counts as an old game, just not as unpolished, I’m specifically calling out dark moon and country return

[@TicTacToeCraft]

@user-crappy-cap Valid, I think every remaster that has the "HD" tag is lazy and overprized.

[@Blitzburgh17]

Better off playing the original in Dolphin at 4K

[@JacobKrone-y5p]

It would be cool if the DK statue changed what color Joy-con it's holding depending on what joy-con you have. That would be an excuse for $60

[@Sairiui]

Hahaha, good joke.

[@nicksharma8238]

Rtg sent me. Start liking him again

[@Kembi_Mekemo]

How do you know the second trailer isn’t using earlier footage than the first in some scenes? Things like that have happened in game trailers before.

[@Sairiui]

Because the comparisons show different changes. More importantly, why would Nintendo put older changes in a newer showcase video? Shows they don't care about quality control..

[@JustJulyo]

2025 the year of the Donke

[@hunter._.6623]

I believe the game was ported to the DKC Tropical Freeze graphics engine, which is why the lighting and shadows are out of place with what Retro Studios achieved on the Wii.

[@solonepeon5805]

So rumors say Nin is asking for 3rdparties to do remasters but can't remaster their DKC 1, 2 & 3 SNES in HD. I would love to see the graphics in UE5 2D with real time lighting etc. Definitely a miss opportunity.

[@solid-kong]

Source?

[@JRRR92]

Remake, not remaster.

[@kingjiy2778]

Believe it or not, I’d prefer if the SNES DKC games stayed as 2D sprite games. I think that the 2D sprites going for a 3D style is a staple of the SNES games and adds to the immersion and the art style of the original games.

[@Timotarius_]

@@kingjiy2778to be fair , the original dkc trilogy are sprites of 3d models , everything in that game is basically a 3D model but due to hardware limitations they had to make sprites of the assets cause the console couldn’t do 3D ( other than 3d trickery like f-zero , mario kart , starfox ) so a part of me would love a version where they get the original assets or make something look like the original models and just show how the game would have been made if the console could handle those models

[@looklook876]

They would be sick if they looked just like the renders Rare made, before they had to scale them down for the SNES

[@RareSun]

Imagine Mario Galaxy 2 with seizure inducing glitches like what happened with Sonic Colors Ultimate.

[@Quinhala11]

I wish they at the very least added new content so this stuff wouldn't be as bad

[@lol-ih1tl]

You can now play all the 3DS exclusive levels at 60 fps

[@WllKiedSnake]

​​@lol-ih1tl And it's 1080p. The 3ds was like 512p? Something like that. Actually it's 240p. Damn!

[@lol-ih1tl]

@@WllKiedSnake the 3ds version ran at 30 fps.

[@WllKiedSnake]

@@lol-ih1tl It did. This version is 60fps.

[@Sairiui]

I agree. More levels or a new rendition of the DK Rap would be a nice bit of content to add in on top of the 3DS levels.

[@Gianluca_GMS]

what did we learn? the budget always goes into the big nintendo games.

[@DKCreo]

Donkey Kong once again getting the shaft. . . there's zero reason for this game to look worse in any capacity, especially at a premium $60. It's sad because this game really is fantastic.

[@benmalsky9834]

He’s not “get the shaft” if one of his games is coming back. You are all just nitpicking while the gameplay is the most important part.

[@DKCreo]

@benmalsky9834 It's not nitpicking. Nintendo is a multi-billion dollar corporation and Donkey Kong Country is a beloved franchise - there are zero excuses for things to be this way. Let's also consider there already exists an official HD port of this game that doesn't have this sub-standard fidelity that was region / platform exclusive, not to mention dolphin emulator exists as well. Yes, it's cool we're getting the extra 3DS port levels in this release but I'd rather the game be polished quite frankly, and it's a slap in the face to price it at $60 when the game has already been re-released before AND wasn't even $60 brand new any of those times. You call it nitpicking but I say people like you are settling for less. Metroid Prime Remastered makes this port look bad and greedy and that's just the reality of things.

[@benmalsky9834]

@ In my opinion, how the game looks does matter as much as how it plays and how fun it is.

[@benmalsky9834]

@ It IS nitpicking because you’re just like everyone else how says that graphics and appearances matter over gameplay and fun factor.

[@benmalsky9834]

@ I honestly hate how bitter you are. You should really lighten up and actually ENJOY games for once instead of complaining here on KZbin all the time.

[@boomstickYT]

The forest lighting improvements give me hope that this stuff is just in an unfinished state, and it will be improved for release. But in case it isn’t I’m definitely holding out until comparison videos come in. This is the only DKC game I haven’t completed so I want to experience it right.

[@YaBoiRexX]

RGT sent me here 🙂

[@asadrandolph7265]

In the original you can see the giant DK statue is holding a Wii remote in the remake you can see the giant DK statue, is holding a red joy con

[@TheScottSummers]

Rgt85 sent me here

[@davidaamaya1]

I better get a free banana split with this game if it's charging that much

[@CastejonGarciaGonzalo]

I think they just made the port HD of the 3Ds version

[@Vindisk]

Yep. They’re comparing it to the Wii version which wasn’t even the base for the remaster. Thats likely the reason for lots of the graphical issues.

[@WllKiedSnake]

That's what I'm thinking as it has the 3ds levels.

[@noel_roldan]

I don't care too much about those little details and is not because I'm a conformist. I'm getting it because I always wanted to play this one and love DK, but probably they are gonna fixing it when it gets release. I hope so!

[@ryancampbell955]

All I really want is a remaster of the "Country" trilogy, sort of like they did with Sonic Origins. Still the original games, but widescreen and HD. If not that, then a brand new game. I'm getting really tired of playing DK Returns.

[@YerNewUncle]

This is all “fog wall in Dark Souls Remastered looks worse” level stuff. Barring some catastrophic set of bugs that make the Switch version objectively worse, this stuff is luckily all immaterial.

[@Sairiui]

You mean like the Pokemon games on Switch? Or if it ran at half the framerate than older consoles for twice the price just like Paper Mario TTYD?

[@Robbie_Haruna]

@@Sairiui The Pokemon games on the Switch had significantly bigger issues, especially Scarlet and Violet. TTYD also looks 10x better than on older consoles, (nor was it twice the price,) so that's also a completely different scenario. This is clearly just a lower effort release, which I don't particularily care for, but it's not even remotely comparable to being a broken mess like some Switch Pokemon releases.

[@rubengarcia7962]

Since the first trailer, I’ve always questioned why this remake doesn’t have the graphics of the Tropical Freeze remake. It’s genuinely one of the best looking games ever and I really expected DKCR HD to follow in its footsteps. In my opinion, with the way the graphics are looking now, I’d even say that (and this is a *very* bold statement) the Wii version looks better. I don’t know what it is, but the whole game just looks very flat to me, even with the better resolution.

[@TicTacToeCraft]

"Tropical Freeze _remake_"

[@arachnid_eater]

tropical freeze switch wasnt a remake, the game was just cross gen between wii u and switch.

[@AS-fu1kd]

I already owned this in Wii and DS. No friggen way I'm buying it on Switch too.

[@thatsruffdog]

Imagine if you could play Donkey Kong Country Returns for $20 in HD with no missing effects in its original, intended visual presentation. And the best part is, YOU CAN PLAY IT TODAY! That’s what you can do with Dolphin Emulator. And you can buy a used copy of this game for Wii like I did and then backup your copy to your computer by easily homebrewing your Wii.

[@lol-ih1tl]

Dolphin Emulator is a pain in the us to set up the controls for games that don't support the classic or GameCube controller.

[@StartersofRage]

Hi. So is the WiiU running the Wii port of this the most definitive in terms of visuals as it upscales it to 1080?

[@SmartZero-f8e]

no. WiiU does not upscale Wii games to 1080p. You mean it only stretches the image to 1080p.It´s not native upscaling. The scaling is simply done by the WiiU´s hdmi chip. WiiU does not allow rendering Wii games (480p) in native 1080p. That only works via emulation.

[@StartersofRage]

@SmartZero-f8e Ah gotcha. Thank you for clarifying.

[@daftcruz]

This is why emulation is still so prevalent. You pick an old game and boot it up with higher resolution and better effects (if you use something like ReShade). This company doesn't even do the minimum effort to sell this Remaster and yet they charge 60 USD for this... I'm not gonna pay it.

[@Sairiui]

Same.

[@KoolTimYT]

I do have my hopes seeing some improvements, and I hope the studio behind the remaster fixes these problems.

[@SmartZero-f8e]

You don´t have Wii like hardware. Cannot be "fixed". You cannot even replicate some effects of Wii on emulator. = Broken on emulator. No perfect emulation possible.

[@thewolfgabe3656]

Honestly a lot of this feels like nitpicking considering the average player likely wont notice or care about these details.

[@jerkusclownstar]

Exactly!!!! That's what i've been trying to say, but do Nintendorks understand NOOOO

[@Crusty783]

even if players dont notice, the game looking worse than it did over a decade ago is an objective downgrade that you don't need to defend

[@Sairiui]

People will notice if a game that used to run at 60 fps now only runs at 30 fps for twice the price.

[@Pigcrafter2]

bro. no one is gonna notice any of these changes.

[@SUPERCLUBVIDEO]

there’s a face hidden in the background trees at 2:48

[@SUPERCLUBVIDEO]

it’s spooky

[@Curlyheart]

I don't see it.

[@papaG6423]

Sorry if this comes across as obvious, but the graphical issues likely stem from the possibility that this is an HD port of the 3DS version, not the Wii version. If they had to remaster the Wii version, then they would have had to import the 3DS levels into the Wii version and then overhaul the visuals. Meanwhile, remastering the 3DS version with all of the content in tact means they just have to give it a spit shine. Unfortunately, this means they have to fix some of the 3DS blemishes that weren't issues on the Wii, hence some of the problems like the water and framerate. (Maybe, idk entirely what I'm talking about, but this is just my theory)

[@juniorpittTV]

*You're looking for flaws everywhere, but if you didn't have a constructive idea for the episode, it's hard to blame you for that. Nintendo produces top-quality games, and if there's any blurriness, it means it was meant to be there.* LOL

[@arachnid_eater]

The point is that a "remaster" priced at 60$ shouldn't be looking WORSE than its wii counterpart

[@LaggingLeland]

It’s like they did all of these changes so they can say they did something