Eventide Split EQ vs Sonible Entropy Eq+ : Who does it better?

Eventide Split EQ is hailed as a revolution in EQing but Sonible's Entropy EQ+ already did the same thing for a few years. Which plugn does it better?
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00:00 Intro
00:49 The Entropy Filters
01:20 Entropy EQ+ on Acoustic guitar
02:09 Eventide SplitEQ controls
03:20 Doing Cymbal Removing a.k.a DeBleeding on snare with both plugins
04:38 Adjusting transients on loud squashed guitars
05:18 CPU usage and latency
05:45 Pricing
06:11 Which one is best?
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[@whitenoisestudio]

All HAIL the new KING? - Eventide Split EQ vs Fabfilter Pro Q3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2LRZoWJnreHb7M

[@deadlyrobot5179]

Great video brother, short, informative and to the point as always.

[@whitenoisestudio]

Much appreciated! I try to keep them as long as they need to be, and not a second longer :-)

[@Cefshah]

Great video!! I can hear the differences between these for sure. And I'm happy that they are different enough to ultimately complement one another. If you can get both... do it.

[@whitenoisestudio]

Thanks! For sure, they are different. I didnt expect Entropy to do the debleeding trick that well.

[@laddieervin]

Great video, as always.Thanks.

[@whitenoisestudio]

haha, thank you for your kind words!!

[@robg.2172]

Really appreciate adding the CPU utilization comparison using these two plugins... CPU is a "key' factor when using plugins - thanks!

[@whitenoisestudio]

For sure! Maybe you will get different results :-)

[@thlLd]

I totally agree! I found this channel today through this video and it's the first time I've seen someone make such an important comparison. I immediately went to check if there was any video comparing "spectral dynamics" plugins, as I'm looking for the lightest among them. There is a video, but no cpu comparison ;(

[@thlLd]

@@whitenoisestudio A recommendation from those who just arrived, always put this information, both cpu usage and latency. Nice channel, nice work :)

[@whitenoisestudio]

Haha ok! Thanks :-) I only do those CPU checks if I feel they are relevant. Its also because my system are pretty powerful, means they'll run about almost anything ;-)

[@whitenoisestudio]

Thanks!! Yeah latency is a lot with these two, if you mix you wont notice because all daws use latency compensarion these days. But if you use them in realtime monitoring during recording for instance, it will be an issue.

[@gh0stransist0r]

laughing in Wavesfactory Quantum while adding convolution reverb to the sustain part only. Good video though, always love you video man.

[@whitenoisestudio]

Hahahaha, made lol! Thanks!! Love your comment as well ;-)

[@petepoly]

Could you please compare split eq to the new Hofa IQ Series Transient?

[@ThePhiCode]

thanks for the video man, I just have a question, what's the microphone model ?

[@whitenoisestudio]

Hey there. Its an Isovox Isomic.

[@jjones7837]

Split EQ has found its way into all my mixes. It's amazingly flexible and you can literally make the sounds in your head. Also, The Smooth, Decay and Separation controls at the bottom add an even greater fine tuning. I just can't say enough about how intuitive this plugin feels once you start working with it. It's a Gooder-izer.

[@whitenoisestudio]

Same here.

[@trayoibry8246]

But isnt Transgressor 2 by Boz not the same as the Split EQ?

[@whitenoisestudio]

Not quite.

[@ward63]

Another plugin that can change the attack/transients and sustain/decay separatly is Boz Digital Transgressor 2

[@whitenoisestudio]

Yeah there are some more. And more will come, seems like a new area plugin developers are exploring.

[@jacksolarmusicmastering]

Bruh, I just bought entropy:EQ+ after watching this video and it won"t even work in fl 21, it gives a small crash sound then stops all sound in the project, tested it in an empty project and same problem, the fuck ..

[@whitenoisestudio]

Well that sucks. My best advice is to contact sonible because they should have a better clue of why this is happening. Let me know how that works out.

[@brianm1233]

Boz Digital was the first I believe (transgressor, big beautiful door) which are both amazing

[@whitenoisestudio]

Could be! Physion of Eventide did the groundwork for Split EQ anyway.

[@mixphantom0101]

Sonible released Frei:raum in 2016 which included Entropy+. I'm pretty sure Transgressor was 2017... as was Eventide's Physion (Fission originally). Regardless... Eventide shouldn't be acting like they invented the wheel! 😁 Most "new" inventions are variations of existing ones.

[@brianm1233]

@@mixphantom0101 yeah right I'm kind of surprised people think they did reinvent it

[@chriskemp466]

did you get the acoustic out of a skip or something lol

[@whitenoisestudio]

Did you pat yourself at your own back after coming up with this comment?

[@moontan91]

Multipass + Transient Shaper

[@saricubra2867]

SplitEQ is not perfect. It has cramping problems on the high end and i would like more than 6 bands and a natural phase option. Beware, SplitEQ uses linear phase filters, therefore it can produce pre ringing if you have extreme settings.

[@whitenoisestudio]

Do you hear that or did you use Plugin Doctor.

[@saricubra2867]

@@whitenoisestudio I heared that, even the UI itself shows the cramping.

[@whitenoisestudio]

ok! and how does the GUi show the cramping?

[@Rwedelich]

Eventide dev here. The filters in SplitEQ are not linear phase (which = FIR filters) They are idealized analog models of parametric EQs.

[@francismcfadden3305]

It's not a linear eq. I know this because I actually sometimes want it to be linear haha. It would be nice to have different filter options though. A way to get around this (a very cpu intense way) is to have duplicate tracks both with split eq with the same settings except one is monitoring the transients and one is monitoring the sustain and then chuck a different eq on top of whichever you want to eq. I'll actually use that method to compress them too (ussually the transients because boosting them alot can make them too intense alot of the time)

[@alexisjones6670]

Voted down. Entropy EQ is not a transient shaper. It works by boosting or cutting inharmonic noise. Depending on the material you are editing you will end up with wildly different results. You can use it as a transient shaper on the specific material you chose, but it won't universally work as such. Meanwhile Split EQ can potentially have issues with the transient crossover speed. Completely different tools.

[@whitenoisestudio]

These two plugins get compared, that's the reason of this video. This video is there to show the differences and similarities and you're fully free to agree with it or not :-) ''The new dimension of EQing simplifies the postproduction of the harmonic and inharmonic sound components of audio recordings-seamlessly and extremely fast. The entropy:EQ+ is a plug-in that allows for both harmonic and inharmonic sound portions to be adjusted over the entire frequency range. Take this well-known feeling, for example: you’ve already run out of patience, but the snare triggers are still too muffled, while the guitar plucking sounds are way too dominant. Situations like this have encouraged us to seek new ways of EQing and thus put an end to spending countless hours of studio time on postproduction. The entropy:EQ+ simplifies the editing process for the impact noise of drums, guitars and other plucking instruments, and introduces you to a whole new world of postproduction creativity. Within seconds, this plug-in will also straighten out your mix in many different fields of applications.''

[@karayuschij]

Fabfilter Q3… no competition.

[@whitenoisestudio]

;-) not in this video!! That’s the other one I linked ;-)

[@levondarratt787]

Not even close...every DJ nerd and hobby producer has a Fab crack.. Eventide is years ahead

[@matrixate]

Q3 is just an EQ...not the same thing. Do you even know the difference between an EQ and a Spectral Shaper?

[@matrixate]

@@whitenoisestudio Why? They're not even in the same ballpark. Normally I respect your opinions but it seems like a waste of time to compare apples to oranges; unless you're trying to compare the big difference between spectral shaping and regular EQing...then any EQ would work. I don't know...you guys must be looking at this from the noob mixing perspective.

[@whitenoisestudio]

Have you watched the video I did on SplitEQ and Poq3? There I point out it's apples and oranges , BUT since they are bound to get compared I did that video to actually point out how different they are for the most part. They complement eachother really well. Also if you think that everyone who watches a video is a pro expert you are wrong my friend ;-) There is need for education.