Evermore: The Theme Park That Wasn't

The word of the video is “theoretical.”
References and further reading: www.jennywebsite.com/evermore...
Special Thanks:
Disney Dan - voice of PR Wizard / @distorydan
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Constantine Bard - credits song instrumental / @constantinebard
Palmer Lee - credits vocals
Kosta H - credits vocals, mixing
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Mynheras LARP / mynheras
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Folklore / jennynicholson
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Mythos 2021 / jennyusername
Vander’s Keep / spider_jewel
Evermore Historium Book 1: Coins of the Revenant Chapter 2: Proper Regards / progamerjenny
Chapters:
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:10 Pitch
00:04:37 Inventor
00:08:22 VOID
00:12:54 Land
00:17:33 Return
00:23:32 Lore
00:37:36 Plague
00:42:25 Swift
00:51:34 GRID
00:59:00 Marketing
01:07:52 Park
01:34:49 Gameplay
02:02:51 Attractions
02:24:14 Characters
02:49:21 Food
03:00:38 Merch
03:06:28 Priorities
03:16:40 Everfolk
03:27:31 Suggestions
03:32:48 End
03:43:11 Credits

[@MCastleberry1980]

Waiting in line 40 minutes for a zoom call you weren't prepared for is one of the funniest things I've heard of in awhile.

[@scyllacw]

So, in a way, that was a horror element

[@johnbehan1526]

This concept is altogether too reminiscent of my workplace.

So basically the home office experience for a lot of people during lockdown.

[@hastanley1]

I did not finish watching Supernatural but I remember Crowley's queue. Lining up only to discover it was pointless with no information available to warn you-that's kinda hellish

[@TheMusicalFruit]

I would have told that dumb wizard that this whole meeting could have just been handled by email.

[@CC-ce8md]

Wow what a once in a lifetime horrible event. Thank god Jenny would never go on to have a second, equally dismal theme park experience

[@sari9645]

This comment needs to be pinned

[@MainTopmastStaysail]

As long as she sticks to a high grossing, well established corporation she should be fine!

[@Thumper17]

If I had two nickels...

[@silverschannel8578]

3:06:44 "They don't have Disney money behind them, so of course one has to meter their expectations"

[@justins8802]

Epic foreshadowing

[@TheShadowcreator]

Jenny suggesting an app where you can scan QR codes feels like foreshadowing

[@b3productions974]

Uh oh

[@catboyhole]

for what

[@thehillisalive]

@@catboyhole watch her latest video, though be forewarned it's longer than this one

[@gracesanchezreviews]

⁠@@catboyhole The new video about the Galactic Starcruiser where a lot of the interactive stuff in the park was just scanning QR codes on various things

[@DE-GEN-ART]

​@@gracesanchezreviewsdont ruin the inside joke this is why we cant have nice things

[@DiegoSanstwen]

Aaaaaaand we're back here after her Starwars Hotel video.

[@AaronEiche]

Ahh, you too, huh?

[@thegreatdane908]

Also noticing how eerily similar that is but just on a higher (still poorly spent) budget.

[@stonks3507]

Hopefully this doesn’t become a trilogy

[@joriturpin4603]

Same

[@Etaukan]

The Algorithm thought I needed to watch this again. I didn't argue.

[@alechemy]

In a way this was the most accurate RPG experience ever: unhelpful NPCs, reused assets, glitches, and buildings you can’t enter.

[@OnlyTAS]

Also lots of promises and subpar experience on release day

[@jcam5]

All headed by a company leader with great ambition but little to no business sense.

[@flowerpower1936]

Food: $5 Employees: $2 Fireproof Clothing: $1 Gravestones: $100000 Buildings: $3 someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my park is dying.

[@Honey511Bee]

Perhaps buy fewer gravestones?

[@LaGrandeBayou]

HoneyBee 😂🤷🤣...maybe try NOT living in a fantasy world 24/7...so when reality sinks in their not soooooo disappointed...

[@johndoe528]

You forgot the cocaine budget for their creative director

[@juanfranciscobrizuela]

You clearly need more gravestone investment. People want their gravestones, damn it!

[@sofalint2905]

Take one of the dollars from the employees and put it to your grave funds

[@MysteryDisc]

It honestly took me way too long to realize the puppets were a Jenny gag. I genuinely believed that was how Evermore would want to relay information. Guess my expectations were too high.

[@OffKiraDeux]

I only noticed towards the end, I figured they were from some other KZbinr, idk why I thought that, but then I was like, OHHHH

[@Annafyz]

Thought the same thing

[@NiminaeOld]

Evermore doesn't relay information, haha

[@cassandra8209]

I didn’t realize until right now

[@rosiejl2798]

Same!

[@yuviblacklight]

They wanted volunteers for carving pumpkins? Why didn't they just made that an in-park activity? Make it a quest for guests to carve a pumpkin, give them a gold or whatever, and then use the pumpkins to decorate. This was a missed opportunity.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

… oh my gosh that makes so much sense.

[@celisewillis]

That's a simple and great suggestion! The guests can feel like they left their mark on the park landscape. Ken Bretschneider and other tech bros like him often overestimate their "genius" and creative ability. 😅

[@1scoobylover]

And then it’s a reason to come back, to try and find your pumpkin!

[@yuviblacklight]

@@1scoobylover Yes! Exactly!!

[@yeungscs]

They could've sold it as a school field trip activity

[@sparklestorm1236]

As an actor, trying to explain that they have mic issues in character when your character is supposed to be in medieval times is a fate that I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy.

[@chelsey8737]

Yeah I get that but they also have magic and mages and wizards in the story so I feel like they could figure out some way to weave into the storyline that wizard cast an amplifying spell on them as part of a curse or something

[@gillygull]

I feel like everyone on the Evermore team could have benefitted from just playing Rollercoaster Tycoon for a few hours

[@im19ice3]

underrated skill builder indeed v_v i personally preferred zoo tycoon cause it demanded less effort and it still got rather heavy! the animals could be as demanding as the visitors >_

[@gillygull]

@@im19ice3 Honestly, I also liked Zoo Tycoon more, but one of my first memories of Rollercoaster Tycoon was the “Your guests can’t find anything to do” alert and that felt more on brand for Evermore. 😂

[@ZackC]

Jenny N. - “I want to get off MR BONES WILD RIDE”

[@chadschmaltz9790]

@@ZackC Never!

[@yyg4632]

Lmao

[@nescaffier1524]

It took me about an hour to realize Bretschneider was his last name instead of his name just being Brett Schneider

[@jennibudde8358]

What?! I didn't realize until I read your comment. thank you! I feel like this should be higher because we can't be the only ones 😂

[@untziggy4]

Yeah, that was on my mind for the "One of these cocktails is named after the CEO. Can YOU guess what it is?" bit. I actually remembered his name was Ken, but she had only mentioned it like once or twice. She probably should have pronounced his last name more like "bretch-nider."

[@thistle_flowers5018]

Oh my god you’re right that isn’t his name

[@syms6060]

It took me until reading this comment to realise that

[@MoonShadowWolfe]

Took me a couple viewings to remember having that revelation three times.

[@houselemuellan8756]

Having a character say "do you want me to go to bed with him?" in a family park is insane

[@aranthium76]

That whole scene was insane like if I was the person the character was yelling at I would’ve started crying 😭

[@camwoodstock]

rewatching in the wake of the news this place is officially closed, and imagine being one of the dead 18th century people whose gravestone was purchased for a utahan theme park that relied on parasocial relationships and died in 6 years.

[@stbananastein]

And at least one of those gravestones is just exposed to the elements in the Grid parking lot, along with a lot of other Evermore stuff that Ken removed from the park

[@Zxykary]

They say you die three times; once when you’re buried, again when no one remembers you, and for the last time when your gravestone is resold from Evermore Park to become gravel in some industrial plant.

[@charlesherbig4502]

Perhaps everyone under those gravestones will take to haunting Ken until his dying day. It is a dream I have.

[@fanror]

What's the ghost that haunts the closed gift shop gonna do now?

[@BunnLilah]

I would find that really funny but I have a weird sense of humor lol

[@willow5945]

I've been conceptualizing a Franz Kafka theme park for a while now, and I think that Evermore provides the perfect model. Quests with no discernable purpose, characters providing conflicting or erroneous information, the impression that everything that happens is part of some larger story that no one is actually privy to... It's genius.

[@ColdHawk]

All that’s missing is climbing awkwardly into your car when you go to leave the park and looking at yourself in the rear-view mirror only to realize you have been transformed by your park experience - into a giant cockroach.

[@willow5945]

@@ColdHawk You mean into a giant vampire bat.

[@mightyNosewings]

I assume you've seen The Onion's Franz Kafka Airport video?

[@willow5945]

@@mightyNosewings I might have at some point. I've also read his novels, short stories, and office reports from when he was working at the Workman's Accident Insurance Institute of the Kingdom of Bohemia.

[@m2012o1]

I love this comment.

[@angelal8829]

Distracting Americans by just putting a fuckton of pumpkins everywhere is the funniest, most relatable thing.

[@unicornbones]

Pumpkins and pine trees.

[@kouusa]

I can't even deny it. That is 100% accurate. I just never realized how true that was before. lol

[@aphrog649]

it’s true, pumpkins are lovely

[@fairelvenlady]

As someone who has had, perhaps, too much fun looking at decorative gourds and pumpkins at farm stands, I can confirm the relatability.

[@from_no_where]

lol I literally got distracted at dollar tree today because they had a bunch of pumpkin decorations.

[@optipus9019]

Watching this and then googling Evermore to see what came of it only to find it closed 2 days ago is wild

[@20000dino]

WHAT??

[@chessplayer6632]

That is wild

[@charlesherbig4502]

I wonder what future archaeologists are going to make of it.

[@leaffinite3828]

Probably ppl watched the video after hearing it closed so it got a boost in the algorithm

[@sumacmusac]

The Fae King has triumphed.... Evermore has fallen...

[@racheljohnson5635]

"If I'm the only customer and I order soup then technically everybody is ordering soup" is my favorite one liner.

[@mrodriguez16ks]

I'm rewatching this video specifically for this line because it got said at the end of an Honest Trailer.

[@stellablake6200]

@@mrodriguez16ks which honest trailer??

[@mrodriguez16ks]

@@stellablake6200 the Hancock one

[@katie-allen]

Do you have the time stamp for this line? I’m trying to find it but the video is (and I know this is a really impressive and niche observation) kind of long

[@rahnetempleton8659]

@@katie-allen not my comment originally but its 2.53.30

[@kc_lee_ann]

I love how Jeffree Star was just quoted saying “no one watches long form content anymore” and I’m here watching a 4 hour deep dive on a theme park I’ve never heard of

[@royalblanket]

If anything it's a long form renessaince, Quinton Reviews entire channel is 7+ hour long content currently, YMS is building hype surrounding a multi-part series, multiple hours each, Caddicarus' channel saw massive success upon making 40 minute to hour long videos... Maybe it's just due to my personal tastes, but it seems to be a rather popular niche among everyone who isn't a corporation or a child. It just so happens youtube only wants to appeal to those groups

[@sidneyconner9086]

I almost exclusively watch long form content, I like knowing I won't have to pick something new for at least 30-40 minutes

[@emilycardinall]

This is the video (Jenny's video) when I heard what Jeffree said. Like dude, I will watch several hours worth of video for a well researched deep dive into just about anything. I just wont watch someone ramble for any amount of time if I don't like them.

[@sidneyconner9086]

@@emilycardinall Right!? “No one watches long form content anymore.” has the same energy as "No one likes comedy anymore!" No, you just are no good at it hahahah.

[@flamingghottea]

jeffree star can go kick rocks lmao

[@Iotuseater]

I really mourn the fact that Jenny never got her tree with a face before it closed

[@pennifold]

A tragedy indeed

[@remko2]

It's a bit out of the way, but 'De Efteling' in the Netherlands has a pretty huge tree telling fairy tales which has a face I kinda wonder what she would think of that theme park

[@MOTHHMAN]

@@remko2 that sounds awesome as hell, thank you for sharing this place bc i absolutely want to visit now

[@remko2]

@@MOTHHMAN tbh most Dutch people will tell you De Efteling is awesome regardless of that tree :)

[@echoesriver4768]

@@remko2 she's been! she's posted about it on twitter! LOVED it

[@feltfrog]

jenny is singlehandedly ensuring that Evermore is permanently in our collective consciousness as we all sleep to this video

[@XzoahX]

Forevermoor

[@MistressofMelody]

I’m 90% sure I was your waitress at Vander’s Keep! I didn’t even recognize you. I was also an actor during late 2019-2020. I have been abruptly let go three times from this company- the most recent being when the restaurant was abruptly shut down October this year leaving both my husband and I jobless with a brand new mortgage. The only notice any employee received was a text the morning before our last shift. I was involved with the restaurant from the beginning (joining them just after the evermore mass firing) and the Vander’s Keep saga is a whole ‘nother side of this story that wasn’t even touched. If you want to make a part 2, I am still in contact with 80% of the restaurant employees and we are all willing to share our stories.

[@ravenpotter3]

That is crazy

[@PeachyPrincess123]

Boooooost!!

[@Light-qx8iq]

B o o s t

[@elijah1437]

boostingg

[@manyagaver1946]

Booooost

[@brandonpack492]

Hi, former Evermore actor here. I was part of the initial cast all the way to the Covid shutdown and a season or two after. I am the actor in the green robe shown at 3:29:30. Random “fun fact” about that scene: after it ended with three beloved characters dying at Maxwell’s hands, I was personally subjected to harassment and abuse from park guests who were too deep into the story. And no, Evermore never had counseling available. We just had to deal with it. It was a great start. We all did believe in the vision for the park. Like you said, I gave so much free time to make what I believed was my dream job work. But over time, the abuse, mistreatment, and being strung along with promises of full time employment made me incredibly jaded. That was not just mine, but many former employees stories. Another anecdote: I went for Halloween this year to support friends still working there. The CEO was serving hot chocolate and hot cider. He looked me dead in the eye, and did not recognize me. He should, because I did days of volunteer right alongside him. Just goes to show how little we mattered.

[@TheHuldraKing]

This

[@brandonpack492]

Also, totally spaced this, but thank you Jenny! Been a huge fan for a long time. It’s surreal seeing a KZbinr I followed talk about things I lived through.

[@xwinoxrhinox]

so sorry you were treated like that.

[@brandonpack492]

@@xwinoxrhinox Thank you. At the time, I didn’t think anything of it. Upon reflection, it was messed up. We kept saying it was like a relationship where no matter how much you get hurt, you kept coming back because the hope was still there that it would work out.

[@havokmusicinc]

The attractions industry is hell

[@pixiepearls3]

As someone who lives in Utah, I'm honestly so pissed about the guy at 3:38:45 saying that people here don't understand the arts. 1) Utah has a really impressive art scene, with some really good art museums and local/contemporary artists. 2) Utah has a really big nerd culture, especially among young adults. People here love nerdy things like Lord of the Rings and DnD, exactly the things that Evermore was supposed to sell. The fact that Evermore failed in Utah is a testament to how poorly they ran the park. In theory, Utah would be one of the best places to try this out. The park runners failed on their own merits.

[@Zezetheb]

^this. Utah really was a great trial ground for this idea, and I think it would’ve worked if they had just done a lot of what Jenny suggested in this video.

[@markk9794]

Fellow Utahn here. I think the clips reeks of talented theater types looking for an outlet. Any outlet. And Utah really does have an incredibly strong, organic music/dance/performance tradition dating back generations. Evermore would have probably done really well as a seasonal oudoor theater with the rest of the stuff thrown in for pre-show/post-show additional entertainment and revenue. Throw in some more revenue on kids summer theater camps.

[@brianl7321]

I've noticed that too! I follow a lot of nerdy artists, cosplayers, etc and a shocking number are from Utah. I have no idea why there are *so many* in Utah but it's interesting.

[@gwenzhead566]

@@brianl7321 when you cant drink or smoke, there's not much else to do or get into

[@shlieface]

I was a “cast member” for a season of Lore, and I couldn’t even tell you the plot of that season tbh.

[@gantz22ify]

Which season?

[@moosiesama]

The fact that you struggled to buy a t shirt at a theme park is beyond mindblowing

[@ClayDress]

She struggled to and was still unable, even after appealing to the CEO!

[@imadethisaccountjusttocomm8064]

I am happy to inform you that she returned to Evermore later and did, in fact, get a t-shirt. No thanks to the CEO though.

[@soneil7745]

She got one later? How?

[@imadethisaccountjusttocomm8064]

They actually had t-shirts for sale that time. As difficult as that is to believe. Also there were some very nice employees who recognized her and filled a goodie bag for her.

[@oldylad]

@@imadethisaccountjusttocomm8064yeah the CEO IS exactly like a king omand can just tell his servants to grab her a shirt from his treasury because she makes KZbin videos, you’re dead on bud

[@100PercentEarl]

took me to the end to realize that the puppets were just on-screen readings of Evermore statements. I genuinely thought that the way Evermore communicated important information with everyone was through puppets. had me going: "Huh. Well that's one way for a company to tell it's employees that they don't know when they're getting paid"

[@jruedas81]

🤣😂🤣

[@BradTheAmerican]

I only realized they weren't real Evermore PR Puppets when I stumbled upon the cast credits in the description after I finished the video. I thought they were doing one of those "how do you do, fellow kids" things.

[@beckyginger3432]

Me too - so glad I'm not alone

[@wanderingaesthetics7849]

I literally just ROFL at this comment. (To be fair, I was already on the floor petting my rabbit… who I scared away with my rolling and laughter.)

[@shriya9925]

this comment is how i found this out

[@gothtarrare]

As an actress, thank you so so much for mentioning your concerns with the actor's mental health. Characters in parks is still, in the history of theme parks, relatively newer and its important that we have more conversations about boundaries and mental health with such performers, as all too often its overlooked as part of the job or not mattering as long as guests are happy.

[@nicolemichele-darkwoodland2136]

This video aged so well. Surprise surprise, the park is now officially closed and more stories of abuse are surfacing

[@atinybard6594]

Jenny's costume swaps actually makes it pretty easy to recall where you fell asleep so you can pick it back up

[@T0xXx1k]

Lmao same 💯% approve lol 🧡🦇

[@kotyara85]

That’s literally what I did lol. I guess I should stop watching youtube before sleeping since I always fall asleep halfway through…

[@Xsyven]

Weirdly accurate to my experience. I gatta say, falling asleep to this gave me very boring park dreams.

[@radishfest]

Lmao fell asleep watching this two nights in a row, I'm really sick and this video is such a fever dream on its own that it's helped a lot. Jenny is basically a doctor now. Salute emoji.

[@poppysdaddi]

you get it!!!!!

[@Ashanmaril]

I can't stop thinking about someone getting talked out of self-harm by a character actor in the park and then the actor realizing they need to be somewhere for a scene where they get murdered by a wizard in front of that person's eyes

[@Moocow2003]

This is such an evocative comment I love it.

[@slm613]

incredible

[@molybdenumrose]

jesus

[@phantomdriver2010]

That's an incredible point, what if that character is set to be murdered. This long emotional talk then BAM fireball

[@tylerlerner4808]

And I thought gofundme as insurance was bad. Theme park warlock psychiatry is not something that happens in a functional society.

[@Witchy_Hoo]

Who came back to this after Bob at Evermore's video about the park permanently closing got onto their recommended page lmao

[@BobAtEvermore]

I'm back here watching this treasure for maybe the twentieth time

[@Azimii]

lmao

[@stxrstruck6755]

Me lmaoo

[@Acrylescent]

Yup lol

[@pyewackettttt]

i wonder what happened to jenny nicholson she hasn’t posted in a year :( it would be awesome to see an updated evermore video where she talks about it permanently closing

[@bleak6631]

As an actor, the parasocial aspect of Evermore's character/guest interaction really unsettles me. I've mostly done theater; sometimes audience members will catch me after I leave my dressing room and act WAAAY too familiar with me, as if they know me because they watched me play a part for a few hours. That's enough to freak me out a bit, but when I saw that footage...my god

[@fauxrowsdower7610]

not quite the same but i did short-form improv once a week for about six years and when our crowds started to grow, we started getting regulars who would act the exact same way. they'd find our personal social media and shit, one guy sent me dozens of messages without me ever responding where he was just talking about his personal problems it's definitely something that entertainment companies should keep in mind more often than they do imo

[@kristaygayle]

I’m a little horrified that Gamblin’ Goblin was a paid employee being made to go barefoot in an outdoor, concrete-surfaced theme park.

[@0meAcat1]

He loved it that freak

[@starpilotalliance]

Good point. You could easily get some goblin feet to go over shoes or something like that.

[@ninjabunny9526]

I'll be honest if a half naked man approached me at a theme park and kept asking me if I wanted to gamble for his pants in a goblin voice I would either run away or bust out laughing. Or both

[@nailinthefashion]

@@0meAcat1 and so did a handful of patrons, allegedly

[@aquilaorion3531]

in the summer no less

[@user-ux3jf4ji7t]

This video is the epitome of "I'm not mad, just disappointed...no wait I'm mad too".

[@thatguythatdrawzz749]

Why aren’t people replying to this?

[@alteregobruh]

@@thatguythatdrawzz749It’s just too perfect. There’s nothing else to say.

[@mandroid5678]

Ken is a top-notch grifter.

[@I-am-invisible]

"I'm disappomad." 💀

[@charlesherbig4502]

Kind of expect that when all your park guests are hangry.

[@killerkitten7534]

The real hero of this story is the dude who made $50,000 by convincing a CEO that his old doll totally has a ghost haunting it

[@rinwhittney5039]

evermore whould've used AI art for promo if it'd been around sooner and you can't convince me otherwise

[@zakhawker344]

Running screaming while telling people to get out is probably the worst possible thing you could do in a park

[@xXluluchanelXx]

I would have freaked out

[@alisaurus4224]

If they had made sure to clearly say “the Frost Witch is coming!” or something clearly story-related it could’ve been okay, but hearing “THEY’RE COMING, GET OUT” and then being herded out the ACTUAL GATES would’ve had me 100% certain there were multiple shooters or stabbers at large. Especially in the dark! They’re lucky nobody was trampled

[@SombraCheeks]

Thank god they have low attendance so there is no risk of trampling lol

[@ArtofFreeSpeech]

I can't help but think how this might have affected, say, survivors of Columbine or Sandy Hook or whatever, especially with no warnings or introductions or explanations being offered. Very scary!

[@snooz3d998]

@@alisaurus4224 exactly. Just have the actors be a little more intense but not screaming, and have them say something like the zombies are hear, let's go to x

[@warpvector]

Imagine being an introverted fantasy gaming fan in the middle of nowhere and hearing there is a whole theme park made just for you and all there is to do is talk to people outside.

[@nailinthefashion]

Sorry they couldn't afford to make real life video games using AR even though the void is right there It could be so fun like a wizard shooting range where you sling fireballs and lightning bolts A dragon battle with like a beat saber sword Fairies projected on bubbles idk I feel like as a tech guy there are unlimited options if he cared enough

[@cafeequinox2074]

My nightmare honestly

[@sandraday6955]

worst .. you are kirsten and they are calling on you to interact like people. .. . scary.

[@adriansteele7023]

Talking to people? Nightmare

[@suitdoggy4707]

It's not just the talking to them part for me. It's the everyone's improvising so it's going to led into hella awkward dialogue where you'll just have to leave eventually.

[@cvaneyken]

Evermore Park has officially closed permanently, per the Salt Lake Tribune. Something made me decide to re-watch this video for the umpteenth time today, I was casually searching for some fan pages and saw the article.

[@BradTheAmerican]

It randomly popped back up in my head recently and I was curious if there were any updates. I saw that the park's Wikipedia page mentioned it was now closed and I immediately came back to the video.

[@Joeljaboy]

Provo has the highest Mormon population density in Utah. My brother and his wife ordered a bottle of wine at a local restaurant and the owner came out and thanked them

[@trevor_r]

Can you imagine being at an unfinished theme park in the US, hearing a bunch of yelling and screaming and seeing people running, thinking you're about to be a casualty of an active shooter but it's just the evil Fae King and his minions acting up

[@user-zp4ge3yp2o]

You obviously don't know what the Fae King is capable of!

[@hugmonger]

Seriously, this sort of thing needs to be held for the close of day and be handled much more calmly. Have someone call out "They are coming!" and have the actors start sort of walking in a hurried manner towards the exits letting guests know the park is closing due to fairy attack but will be back next week.

[@JuliaT1DRunner]

It’s horrifying

[@oliviaml01]

I'm amazed no one called emergency services. There had to have been people who didn't know it was a scripted thing and tried to call the cops.

[@CineSoar]

I was with my two boys (9, and 13 at the time), waiting in line to enter CA Great America's Halloween Haunt. Someone was robbed, and fight broke out. Someone screamed about an active shooter, and that triggered a stampede for the exits. Unaware of all of that, we were standing in a makeshift queue of metal stanchions, (fortunately just joining at the end of the line) when I noticed a growing sound of running footfalls. Then, I started to see people jumping turnstiles at the entrance pavilion and sprinting like their lives depended on it. In full "Peter Tingle" mode, I turned my boys around and started hustling them toward the parking lot. As the crowd in the queue got wind of the panic, they started trying to exit the stanchioned area, first by running back through, and eventually trying to jump them (causing many of them to tip over, onto people on the other side). My immediate fear was that one of my boys would slip from my grasp (I had them both by the back of their collars and was trying to help them run just a bit faster, without forcing them to stumble) and get trampled by the crowd. My next fear was that some maniac was going to start peppering the crowd with gunshots. Keep in mind, this very scenario had just played out a few weeks earlier, at the Gilroy Garlic festival shooting. People were blindly running into traffic, in an attempt to escape across the 4 lane road, at the front of the park. We ran all the way to our car, and sped out, avoiding an hours-long jam up of thousands of vehicles trying to exit at once, through 3 lanes of exit. If I had been at Evermore that night, I would have lawyered up, because the unnecessary panic was wreckless endangerment, and my boys don't need to go through that very real fear of death in a theme park, ever again.

[@jmlkinc]

The fact that she literally asked the CEO for a t-shirt and could not obtain one is insane.

[@ComaVN]

Not just asked... asked to BUY.

[@lonewolfM16]

Jenny trying her absolute hardest to give them money and just being completely unable to is kinda hilarious...though explains some stuff about the park.

[@jack-a-lopium]

Honestly, the guy seems like a bit of a scammer, he's pitching ideas which seem 'too good to be true' at every opportunity. My 'creeper sense' is tingling... it's like Spider-sense, but for weirdo predators.

[@52thephotoshop]

@@jack-a-lopium not really he's losing a lot of money on all this he's just a bad manager scamming himself

[@jack-a-lopium]

@@52thephotoshop Hahah... I mean, Jenny's video opens with him saying that his thing is going to be better than Disney, a company with 100 years of history and a literally bottomless source of cash. If he weren't so insufferable, he'd be interesting. Re-watching Jenny's video is awesome, btw 😂

[@meridawatson]

Thank goodness Evermore closed before the advent of ai or we'd have another Wonka glasgow experience on our hands.... now that i think of it the Wonka experience is almost the same as Evermore

[@charlodynatimberheart4860]

Evermore walked so Glasgow Wonka Experience could run.

[@Princess55404]

I used to be a "actor" working at Magiquest (I recommend a deep dive on that whole thing as well). We were given freedom to create our own characters and the company bought us costumes (I was a princess, so dress and crown etc.) But we suffered from the same issues as the Evermore characters. Guests coming every day, and being waaay too involved with us in character. I had co-workers who would receive flowers from grown men (we were college students) and we all had to be escorted out of the building at the end of our shift because guest (usually grown men) would be waiting for us.

[@sonsofisstvan1675]

Bruh you just sent me back in time… I was like 5 the last time I went to magiquest 😢😢❤

[@connorcaviness6139]

The fact that they spent tens of thousands of dollars on expensive and pointless antiques to make the scene more authentic just to park an suv in the middle of an attraction is wild to me 😭

[@Vagitarian01]

Pretty sure the owner just had "f you money" and put everyone else's enjoyment below his own. Pretty much all of his projects seemed like something he did for himself and making a business out of it was an afterthought.

[@katiebatten5794]

Also if they’re such expensive antiques you should NOT put them in a theme park, they’re eventually gonna be ruined by the hundreds of people touching them and setting their drinks down and letting their kids knock them over

[@Spamhard]

Lets not forget, if they got these statues and stuff from Europe, the shipping costs for such heavy items would have been stupid. It's just truly the strangest choice all around; impractical, likely to damage them by being set in a theme park, overly expensives when you can buy statues in the US...

[@emma7933]

The thing with the antiques is that they clearly just went on a mad shopping spree for anything that was pre-1950s and European. None of the furniture matches or clearly indicates what timezone we are meant to be in. They should have just comissioned their own Ye Olde Fantasie Style furniture, it would probably have cost the same as importing hundrends of heavy items and looked much better.

[@ruthie8785]

smells a little tax fraud-y

[@nathanrussell-raby5460]

Imagine doing free work for a company that paid $50,000 for a real ghost.

[@andynava5144]

"Real" Ghost

[@geniechoe6487]

LOL and there's a single-card limit for your own likeness as a collectable (God forbid one of your parents want one) - because a tiny piece of cardboard is expensive, "don't be greedy!" ..we already blew the budget on imported stained glass that was never actually used in one of the boarded up, abandoned-looking buildings

[@Mello_me]

I want to unread this lmao.

[@dunsparce4prez560]

Tbf 50 large for a real ghost is a steal

[@ArtsyStarleta]

And they damn well got a real ghost - the person Jenny saw inside the Kettle Cafe.

[@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow]

The ceo seems like the type of tech bro who sees poverty as a reflection of character and morality

[@molegoddess]

One whose own wealth was built on the hard work of other people, since he clearly lacks the ability to properly plan and follow through a project.

[@pr0t34n]

Can you even imagine you go to a Disney park and you literally can't stop running into Bob Iger?

[@Phelie315]

Or much worse even: Bob Chapek

[@Vooblebooble]

Being afraid to quit your job where you're being abused, overworked, and endangered for little to no money cause you don't want to risk making a suicidal park guest you're forced to talk to everyday feel abandoned is genuinely one of the scariest and most horrible things I can imagine a person having to live with.

[@user-nw1je1ur6t]

You have to ask the depressed guests for money, so you can stay in the park, for them Make sure they dont find out about your other patreons When the park closes, you ask them all for money "to make your own park" and escape from Utha

[@pinkiegoof]

it quite truly sounds like an episode of the twilight zone and not in a fun spooky way

[@longhorsestudios]

It's called a cult.

[@JoshuaJacobs83]

I can think of a few worse, but yeah that's bad too

[@stevethepocket]

Being afraid to quit _any_ job because you're afraid you'll be taking away a suicidally depressed person's only reason to live sounds horrible. Like, I read comments on other people's KZbin channels that are like "My life is garbage and you give me a reason to get up in the morning" and everyone treats them like they're super Wholesome(tm) but that would probably mess me up if I were in that KZbinr's position.

[@psychedahlia6286]

that wen weaver clip is so incredibly bizarre, i can’t stop watching it. truly could not imagine walking through a park because you think dragons and fairies and mermaids are neat, and accidentally stumbling across a woman scream-crying at what, to you, appears to just be a random guest just like you, while a seemingly fully unbothered man is just on his knees kissing her hand, and she’s just sobbing and yelling, “TELL ME WHAT TO DO, KIRSTEN!! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT, KIRSTEN!! DO YOU WANT ME TO FUCK THIS MAN?? SHOULD I FUCK THIS MAN, KIRSTEN???!!!!”

[@juliamavroidi8601]

I'd be afraid to interact with any of the other actors out of fear I'd accidentally trigger another full meltdown

[@WaitinInAmber]

this comment absolutely took me out 🤣 I was not prepared

[@PondOfGlue]

💀💀💀💀

[@brettpgh3312]

Brilliant, thank you

[@maxgarcia1454]

I feel like some of the character actors had a hard time separating "I'm getting paid to LARP! This is amazing, let me go all out!" from "I work at a family friendly entertainment park and I dont get paid enough to do this." Like there seems to be no in-between from scream-crying Weaver and that one dwarf at 1:48:18 who acted like he didn't know what guilds were so he didn't have to interact with people. Both sides are just wildly uncomfortable

[@robmorgan1214]

This entire park is like a WoW server exclusively populated all the sims who got stuck in a corner and starved to death.

[@chornethefirstborn1768]

That Halloween event looks like it was engineered in a lab to trigger mass shooting PTSD. :(

[@nass6568]

Do you think if Jenny gets enough youtube success she'll become an eccentric rich guy who builds a park

[@nass6568]

I'll sell every body part to donate to this cause

[@roxasleviathan9409]

Yes but I wholly believe if she were to make a park it wouldn't suck

[@lupakajsalisa3652]

@@roxasleviathan9409 But she would still develop hubris, have an office full of taxidermy dragon heads, and a large, looming evil boss chair

[@benraisher]

I hope it would be a Theme Park-themed Theme Park. The ideas are already starting to flow

[@tevanchinsangaram6467]

@@benraisher Not unlike the California-themed California Adventure theme park in the already California-themed California

[@delaneyheil9575]

So I actually got to see Josh Steadman, the Director of Show Design (that guy on the podcast at the end of the video) present at a panel about themed entertainment at ComicCon this past year. Not two minutes into his introduction, he mentions working on Evermore and says "but I guess people would rather listen to girls wearing elf ears on KZbin than actually visit the park, so..." with the added bonus of showing THE SAME MAGIC TREE CONCEPT ART. I'm so happy I watched the girl with elf ears first 😂

[@TheNickhis]

lmao that guy doesn't even work there anymore... but still absolutely brown-nosing Ken because I guess he's gotta defend his portfolio?? 🤪 I'm glad that a lot of other management involved during opening who were stabbed in the back one way or another by the CEO have since acknowledged him and Evermore for what they really are.

[@wajmgirl]

Wow, so his lack of professionalism extends beyond the park.

[@delaneyheil9575]

@@TheNickhis Trust me, as someone who works in this industry, some people who work in events/themed entertainment design would deny everything for the sake of standing by their portfolio 😅

[@TheNickhis]

@@delaneyheil9575 Oh I have no doubt lmao

[@DeathbyPixels]

LMAO Listen, if I could get all my news and obscure information about the world from a woman with elf ears, I would. Infinitely more reputable than some rich insecure middle-aged white guy imo.

[@BillboBirsay]

Just finished watching Star Wars Hotel, came straight here.

[@krystalschrand4256]

LMAO me too!!

[@shoujokadyan5502]

Yoooo

[@JuFated]

LOL me too xDDD

[@BillboBirsay]

@@krystalschrand4256 Couldn't get enough!

[@BillboBirsay]

@@JuFated Hell yeah

[@NosebleeddeGroselha]

The early 2010’s had Dashcon, the mid to late 2010’s had Evermore, now the early 2020’s has Willy’s Chocolate Experience.

[@lissilalou]

All of the evermore clips can be summarized as Jenny going “oh” excitedly and then “oh” disappointedly

[@camilohiche4475]

This also summarizes the way every woman has reacted to a first date with me.

[@lynseymann5529]

Hearing this made me feel kind of sad, she really wanted to engage with it but it was such a let down

[@bumpmcbrofist]

for a park that claims to have no rides she sure seems to be going on a lot of rollercoasters

[@nailinthefashion]

@@camilohiche4475 take me on a date, then, you must be really funny

[@nailinthefashion]

@@bumpmcbrofist in my head canon this is the pinned comment

[@Wrynwynn]

A kindly young fairy approaching you asking to buy your t-shirt, and then turning out to be an all powerful witch who destroys your livelihood when you say no, sounds like a fairy tale story worthy of a fantasy themepark.

[@aspen_clouds]

beauty and the beast vibes

[@lucybickerton4573]

That’s so beautiful

[@whickwhacksmacker]

I didn’t understand this until I finished the video and I must say, yes this is accurate

[@Moerasgeest]

Don't you mean beastly vibes?

[@takaono7243]

Ken tried to apologize, but it was too late - for Jenny had seen that there was no love in his heart.

[@adamgrogory]

It's so funny that it's basically guaranteed that more people have watched this video than ever went to the park.

[@LoneDewott]

Update: As of a few days ago, the park is confirmed as permanently closed. There were some special events planned (like a thing at Vander's Keep, a School Prom, etc) that were cancelled around the time of the announcement. They shut down a forum to prevent rumours from being spread. Alot has happened. Bob at Evermore has a pretty good video on it.

[@quinevere]

I agree! Bob's vid is how I got the news. Ran to watch this vid again after

[@frinkanoid]

Obviously I hope Jenny doesn’t get sued, but if she does it would be really funny if the only thing she asks for in the countersuit is a t-shirt.

[@Falicity345]

Or her likeness as the face in a tree

[@ColdHawk]

That gets my vote!

[@OpalBLeigh]

Hey, Jenny is worth more than that. She should also ask for her face tree. 🌲

[@omidm.935]

I got in a legal battle with Evermore and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

[@MarillSweatshirt]

And a photo op in the Shire.

[@gaphic]

My favorite part of any Jenny Nicholson video is repeatedly thinking ‘well surely that’s the whole story’ and then seeing there’s still 2 hours of video left

[@elmtre3]

Absolutely, this was me 1 and a half hours in as well.

[@NeonNijahn]

I know! I had this same thought so many times during this video. I was leaping for joy in my mind every time I saw how much video I had left.

[@themakuta]

My favorite part is hearing "more on that later" when we're already three hours in

[@virginiafernandez6846]

I mean, the numbered lists are pretty up there. You'd think I'm being sarcastic, but no. The numbered points really add a sense of momentum to the video

[@thyrssus]

and than you still have 3 more ours of the video left

[@palinurus]

So glad you made that observation about the "night Evermore went dark" being too reminiscent of instances of mass violence for comfort. My uni had a shooting a little over a year ago, so I (as well as some of my classmates, I'm sure) am very jumpy around stuff like what was shown in the videos. It was interesting in theory, but just seeing the clips left me so certain that I not only wouldn't have enjoyed it- I probably would've had a panic attack and spent the rest of that night in a state of paranoia. It really drove home why you commended the Star Wars hotel for its fake alarm system as well; it hadn't crossed my mind just *how affected* I would be by something like that if I wasn't told it was fake in advance. Edit: I'm a certified archery instructor, and as far as I know, that safety talk is mandatory for first timers on any range. I've been shooting for a long time but still have to hear at least a truncated version whenever I go somewhere new. (And even if it isn't mandatory, I will say that I've also gotten one at every Ren Faire I've ever shot at. So there's precedent at the very least.)

[@Nocturnalux]

Have you read/seen Tsurune? It’s a light novel turned anime about kyuudo, traditional Japanese archery. Also covers anxiety.

[@yuviblacklight]

I would've added a gravestone for any actor's/employee's character should they ever leave the employment of the park, to add more to the in-park lore. Who tf buys someone's gravestone? A whole person who existed is now without a gravestone?

[@gryphonvert]

Not only "who tf buys a gravestone", but... to buy a real gravestone, that suggests that somebody in Europe (England?) was SELLING the gravestones. WHY?

[@justme0910]

@@gryphonvertIt's not unusual in many parts of Europe (including my home country, Germany) for graves to only be maintained for as long as the family is willing to pay for them. Typically, after a couple of decades, families simply let the contract run out. Any remains that have not decayed yet are exhumed and reburied below the original grave, and the plot is then reclaimed to be rented out to another family. I'm aware that Americans tend to find this off-putting because under US law, graves are meant to be maintained indefinitely, but you've got to keep in mind that many of our graveyards go back centuries, you cannot bury a body anywhere that isn't an officially designated, typically Church-owned graveyard, and land is precious, especially in smaller, densely populated countries.

[@chronofuge]

since worldwalkers are a part of Evermore Park lore, I'm confused why they couldnt have some employees who both are/arent in character as 'experienced worldwalker guides' to help guests

[@sylviapage61]

Thats a GREAT point omg

[@MatthewMS.]

I hope Jenny N. makes more content. She’s absolutely adorable and talented at her thing.

[@jackalobowaitthisnameistaken]

"...CRAP" - Brett Schneider reading this

[@raveneskridge3143]

... you're brilliant

[@maymorris342]

They could even have like. Fantasy-like armor or dress made from items from our world or something. For theming or whatever. Evermore hmu

[@Conformist138]

Finding out that Jenny personally asked the CEO of Evermore to buy a tshirt, and that she does not have a tshirt, absolutely broke me. I needed to pause, and take a moment to calm down.

[@tabula_rosa]

The fact that Jenny couldn't get any of many minimum wage entry level employees to get her a tshirt raises questions about how the employees are treated

[@wormz4guts]

TRULY THIS TOOK ME ABACK, LIKE HE OWNS THE COMPANY AND HE DOESNT WANT TO SELL HIS DAMN T SHIRT ?!

[@slayanddecay6009]

#GETJENNYHERSHIRT

[@daminox]

If it were my park I'd be kicking down the doors of that gift shop and getting that superfan a t-shirt! But this guy was just like "nah" lmao

[@HerrDeutschBlood]

It kind of speaks volumes about the guy. The park was never really about entertaining people, it was only about him being able to brag to people about owning a park. Honestly, this self centered prick doesn’t deserve to have one with the way he’s been running things. If I was running a park and a guest asked for a shirt, not only would I give he one but I would give an entire gift basket of the park’s merchandise and coupons for any restaurant or attraction of her choosing because it would give her the incentive of wanting to come back and tell her friends and family about the amazing time she had and thus bringing more people in to the park. It’s a no brain-er.

[@ptorq]

I love "maybe spontaneity might be bad when spontaneity is fire."

[@sabrexi7228]

Everytime I come back to this, I’m just utterly baffled that, at multiple times, Evermore did the best they could to prevent someone from giving them money

[@fuzzyfuzzface]

My fiance and I went to the park last year for Valentine's Day. We went in, walked around and decided we wanted to ride the train before we left (it was in February and right before close and very cold). The employees were very young, but nice. The employees said we couldn't use the caboose. They saw someone and got immediately skittish - turns out it was that same CEO guy. He held up the train for 20 minutes to show his date a special hidden room inside the initial tunnel the train goes through. When he's done, he goes to the back of the train AND GETS IN THE CABOOSE. Yes. That's why you can't use the caboose. ITS FOR HIM ONLY. Then we go to leave and almost can't get out of the parking lot because he parked his Porsche in the middle of the ONLY EXIT to the parking lot. Seems like a great guy who's really fun to be around.

[@collinvickers2345]

Wow. Speaks volumes about his character, and how much her cares about the guests to his park.

[@Christina-sj1wc]

This feels like satire but I do believe you

[@electricdreammachine2225]

@@Christina-sj1wc Has to be satire because there’s no way that guy lasts 20 minutes.

[@tamatebako_yt]

@@electricdreammachine2225 😂

[@pooperscooperltm6312]

@@electricdreammachine2225 I believe it. 5 minutes to walk to and from the room 3 minutes to undress and re-dress 2 minutes for the deed and 10 minutes to cry about it

[@CharlesSmithOrg]

Jenny put more thought into Evermore than Evermore did.

[@ZUGTFO]

WHY doesn't any theme park company HIRE HER to help them design AWESOME parks?? The ideas and creative thinking she possesses . . wow! :D

[@thebigragu9952]

@@ZUGTFO because Jenny is a youtuber, without a degree in engineering. Theme parks don’t just have idea guys. That’s not a job. You have to be an engineer, or some kind of professional designer or have a huge buttload of money. Jenny is none of those.

[@septiquaddoubleyou4019]

And Evermore definitely wasn’t short on idea guys. It seems to me that what it really needed was more investment in the people who could double check the efficacy and safety of these ideas and the workers and customers they would impact.

[@TheLuckyIrishDevil]

jenny put ever more thought into evermore than evermore ever did

[@ColdHawk]

@@TheLuckyIrishDevil - After Jenny’s analysis it has been never more apparent that Evermore soon shall be nevermore and shut its gates forevermore.

[@billyblastoff]

“Tell the chef that I want a KRAFT single draped across my grilled Atlantic salmon like a blanket. And if he doesn’t like it he can meet me in the parking lot.” Ahahaha I HIGHLY enjoyed this entire video. Great job! :)

[@barbara5097]

According to insiders, Evermore park has shut down, like, for real this time. RIP 🙏

[@synthiandrakon]

To be fair part of me is relieved they don't sell alcohol. The combination of the weird people who go every week forming parasocial relationships with the employees I'm not sure I'd be stoked if there were dudes going there to get drunk and bother the in character bar maids

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Oh Christ, that sounds like an absolute goddamn nightmare.

[@TraumaTrae]

Utah is verrrry strict with liquor licenses, and only issue a limited number every year if I recall correctly. I think that actually paid off in this case.

[@samwoodcock5136]

This is also a park where archery and axe throwing are activities. Sure, you might be able to screen out anyone visibly drunk but I wouldn't want tipsy people with weapons

[@perrilewis180]

​@samwoodcock5136 yeah I went to a Ren Faire and the people throwing are also had cups of beer in their hand.

[@snowdoll622]

@@samwoodcock5136in what world do people do axe throwing sober

[@Laurenjoinsyoutube]

I can not imagine how uncomfortable it is to have a multiple hour long conversation with a patron about their home life troubles. That’s crossing a line

[@frostyskeletons8950]

Especially while feeling pressured to maintain a cockney accent… someone please get this park HR and guest relations

[@christineherrmann205]

I mean... I'm friends with most of the people I LARP with and you STILL don't do crap like that. It mucks up the entire damn story. Quests don't go out. People lose time they need to change costumes. It's INCREDIBLY awful for the person trying to stay in character, AND feeling like they can't get away. If they agree to do it, they might end up not getting a break. It's just.... terrifically selfish of the guest/player, and every attendee needs to sign a list of rules that expressly prohibits that sort of interaction. ALSO, touching in LARP is _always_ prenegotiated if you don't know a person EXTREMELY well. Man, have I got stories...

[@glitterberserker1029]

@@christineherrmann205 why such a strong taboo on touching? Or is it more of a taboo on touching someone in a way that is too familiar under the guise of it being in character. Would general ways people touch strangers in the real world be frowned upon? Like shaking hands vs just grabbing someone that's a perfect stranger to you kind of dichotomy. I know absolutely nothing about larping so maybe I just misunderstood your comment.

[@ascii_9727]

@@glitterberserker1029 I would guess the specific situation that playing a character brings really heavily blurs the line of what can be perceived as ok or not ok while "in character" so its better to be safe than sorry and add it as a rule. Also I don't LARP but I do DnD and it is not at all uncommon to hear stories of people who have no concept of boundaries making a very awkward situation for someone else/everybody at the table and I can't begin to imagine how that would go in a more physical setting than just sitting at the table.

[@thoseriseofkingdomsadswith972]

Not to mention the actors might find some stuff triggering themselves. And what if they give bad advice? They're not therapists or psychiatrists.

[@JessRoberts-bk2sk]

I was employed as one of the original 4 SFX artists hired in late 2016 and started working in February 2017, and the stories I could tell you... your video would be so much longer. There was not mental health support in any way, in fact I did not continue working there because when I reported the hostile workplace SH I was experiencing, they fired me for being a "liability" The chronological timing of some of this video is a bit all over the place... Even the "behind the scenes" was done over 2 years into the SFX shop being open after the Evermore project was picked back up in 2017, when the land was purchased. You do actually need the creature shop open way before the park is set to open, honestly, it takes time to sculpt, mold, produce, paint, and catalogue 97+ costumes, masks, prosthetics, and characters. I have a ton of insight from the inside 2017-2018 staff meetings. The initial money mostly went to Ken's MASSIVE shopping spree in Europe of "antiques" like a carved chair that came from a tribe of people eaters... but I saw that chair just sitting in the dwarf house. You wouldn't believe how much each of the REAL headstones imported from Europe cost to buy, and ship. Ken also stored his personal and other company stuff in the evermore buildings. The creative shop was over 1/2 full of racks upon racks of Ken's PERSONAL storage. The trinket trade was planned, the original storyline would have been something to change the more times you entered the park, there was going to be rfid "Gems" that you could put in a staff or a wand or a sword etc. and that would open gates to new storylines or indicate by their color how many times you have been through the park and would thus change the storyline, even in the same hero path that you spoke about knowing about the intention of. The park was a disappointment for not only the visitors, but staff as well. We all wanted it to be the original vision, but nobody reigned in the spending the way they should have. distinctly lacking a CFO really hurt the park. for the first year the marketing "team" was ken's daughter's boyfriend... so... Bretschneider was no longer a part of the Void before the Disney locations even opened. It was fun to see some of my work and creations I was part of in videos like this as I never did go to the park due to my personal experience being employed in the shop.

[@TheViolentLolita]

This is so interesting and thank you for talking about your experience!

[@Howlox]

I hate how he imports stuff (the chair and the headstones) from "Europe" like it's some exotic land lmao.

[@DeanRockne]

It's crazy he was buying and shipped authentic artifacts for what is effectively a set. He's obviously a fairly technically savvy guy. He could have gone to Europe to 3D scan authentic items and build replicas for far less. Plus collecting references and building replicas gives you the flexibility to mix authenticity with the custom touches to fit with the world you are building. So much could have been done with cnc carved molds and creative concrete castings.

[@elilass8410]

The staff and cast seemed to really be dedicated to the park even as its management mishandled the park itself and treated their employees like shit. I'm so sorry for you and your ex colleagues. Your work and passion are appreciated, and I hope you're currently doing well mentally and materially.

[@Howlox]

@@DeanRockne Or better yet, just designed the headstones from scratch. If you heard that he went to a cemetery in America and scanned random people's headstones, wouldn't that be overstepping? So why is it any different for Europe, just because it seems like a distant fairy land to some Americans? Creating them from scratch would have been the cheaper, more creative, and less disrespectful option. To be honest, I think he wanted to be seen as a "spare no expense" John Hammond type and get people talking about all the whacky things you'd see if you visited the park, like there's a story behind every item. Kinda like how there's crazy stories behind Disney parks (some true, some not). Cool in theory, but clearly too costly for him. On top of that, I think he wasn't sure what he wanted to go for, because getting items like this falls half-way between the cool Disney park stories and a Ripley's Believe It or Not collection.

[@user-od9ep6ht3e]

I came here from a swiftie Reddit post where people wondered why her website says “Taylor swift evermore shop” for the album’s merch instead of omitting her name and someone said probably because of evermore park and linked your video. So needless to say I have never heard of this! I clicked and was like wow I’m never going to watch 5 minutes let alone three hours. Well I did watch for one hour, and this theme park is the most hilarious, elaborate epic fail I’ve ever seen from every aspect. You are a wonderful storyteller and i love your commitment to stalking and visiting this random theme park. Thanks for the literal days-week(s) of your life you must have spent on this video

[@f4rr3r]

“How was your trip to Evermore?” “I saw a sorceress get bullied to death by a Utahan podcaster.”

[@Bastonikov]

"Gasp! Please tell me it wasn't the hair trigger fire witch"

[@frogwhisperer2067]

Brand new sentences

[@cythermax]

The baby dragon tamer is one of my best friends. She's incredible at prop work and character design. They loved her "character" so much that they still use pictures and such to advertise the park, but she quit after realizing Evermore is just a dumpsterfire.

[@muffiechu]

Did she get to keep the dragon?

[@cythermax]

@@muffiechu I'm not sure if she does or not. I know she helped make a lot of the really cool props like the dragon. But got out of there once it became apparent what the park was.

[@alice88wa]

Let her know that I've seen multiple comments about her being their favorite part of the park/video.

[@cythermax]

@@alice88wa I absolutely will. Was talking with her earlier but I'll let her know!

[@Emily-xr6ny]

@@cythermax she’s an icon i keep rewatching that section bc the dragon is so cute

[@SomeFreakingCactus]

The only good things to come out of Evermore Park was this video, and the fact the developers and actors for indie horror game Home Safety Hotline met working for Evermore Park.

[@aidanwarren4980]

The statue is the most Utah thing about this, to me. What should we put right in the center of our fantasy theme park? How about an enormous marble statue of an angel striking down satan. That belongs, thematically and aesthetically, sure.

[@nala7829]

Thatd absolutely rad honestly. I wish they ran with that vibe more, and not... whatever this was

[@rabigallaserbeam]

my mother is the costume designer seen in the video and i’ve seen kens incompetence first hand. she put so much love and effort into those costumes, but was treated like complete garbage.

[@RheaZenko]

She sounded like she has a lot of love and passion for what she does. I hope she found something better that's deserving of her time and effort.

[@Aisubun]

Man, that sucks

[@gantz22ify]

I’m sorry about your mother.

[@imadethisaccountjusttocomm8064]

Honestly the costumes were amazing. She did such awesome job, I'm sorry to hear that it wasn't appreciated.

[@timeforlaurynsopinion5138]

she did an incredible job!! it's so upsetting how the incredibly talented people who actually made the park good were treated so badly.

[@kicksyo2171]

I love the idea of Taylor Swift's whole career, and whole motive for doing everything that she does is purely to shut down a theme park that no one's ever heard of before.

[@Niobesnuppa]

It's a most devious plan, because no one expected it!

[@ClayDress]

You just wait for the Evermore (Taylor's Version) Park

[@majakolter3757]

@@ClayDressas evermore wasn't recorded under big machine records there'll never be an evermore (taylor's version) as it is already taylor's to begin with...

[@deebee.1542]

@@majakolter3757but it sure is her version of the park!

[@ClayDress]

@@majakolter3757 I forgot she had a song called Evermore, lol. I just meant the park

[@BatheTheWails]

i still can't get over the lady who is clearly a witch and the guy in a whimsical tea-kettle helmet derisively saying that a quest "sounds like fairy tales"

[@kicksyo2171]

RIP Evermore. I'm so sad I never got a chance to see those amazing bathrooms!😢

[@benvoliothefirst]

The idea of a theme park where people randomly run through screaming "EVERYONE GET TO SAFETY! RUUUNNNN!!!!" is just straight up horror. Like, not the fun kind.

[@ColdHawk]

What’s that old saw? You have free speech but cannot endanger people by yelling “Fae!” In a crowded theater….

[@Evbuscus1]

That part of the video was chilling, man. Too real nowadays.

[@LordRydag]

If somebody gets crushed to death in the stampede, they become part of the lore and the characters mention them in future seasons. Really cool stuff.

[@HeyLeFay]

Yeah, and they weren't screaming or yelling in a campy way, either. I would be straight up terrified if I heard that.

[@Siriastimeflies]

I'll be honest, I would love it... but not in the US. And with like, some warning signs all day long

[@theinfantmetroid]

i will NEVER stop giggling at "YOUR GRACE, HE MEANS YOU HARM!"

[@sparksparkle]

Oh my God your pfp

[@todwarner4851]

Does anybody have a timestamp? I think about this moment so often that I need a quick reference!

[@vvam5440]

59:56 for the "YOUR GRACE HE MEANS YOU HARM" but if you want to listen to the full old king/advisor bit go to 59:42

[@poppyonline4034]

@@vvam5440Thank you!!!

[@TobiasFangorIsntCis]

For the last couple days I rewatched all of her videos from the beginning looking for this line because I remembered it so intensely and needed to see it again. Only for it to be from her most recent post, lol

[@ChristianAttridge]

No shit, my mormon wife convinced me to visit this themepark when my kid was 8, and we saw rhe freaking satyr fall down after breaking a leg and since the poor dude couldn't take his mask of, the sound he was making was like a squealing hog.

[@elilass8410]

Is it me or are mormons nerdier than the average american?

[@scottbuck1572]

"Its not about the caboose, its what the caboose represents" - Height Ledger as the Joker, 2009

[@LorNrocks]

I have to say, I would be so deeply uncomfortable to be walking around and witnessing some of these scenes. All these actors screaming, crying, people on their knees, begging others, like…I wanna have a quest and see some magic fights, not like…medieval soap operas where some of the guests are apparently so close to the actors they get to participate in what I can only describe as “me and my friends RPing in private message boards in middle school”

[@LorNrocks]

Also I would give a kidney to get a video like this about the Goretorium in Vegas. We went a few times and I’m so sad that there’s basically no video or photos of the inside of the haunt itself left.

[@martindavids1294]

Yeah I was wildly uncomfortable just watching some of the clips

[@riabouchinska]

Lol “me and my friends RPing in middle school” is exactly what it reminds me of

[@overgrownkudzu]

yeah literally, 90% of people won't care about deep story lines, they could just do a couple of choreographed fights everyday and everyone would be happy

[@whisperedaria]

@@overgrownkudzu It’s true, but boy oh boy should you see the die-hard evermore “fans” when the park discussed making things more accessible to first-time players. It’s as if they’d just had visiting rights to their best friend removed, or as if someone just took their LARP from them.

[@clarion3204]

As a gardener, I have a bit on a unique perspective on this. Disney never gets enough credit for their stunning commitment to authentic, grown in landscaping. I once visited a reclaimed tree yard where they care for very old, large trees with unique character, with their root systems entirely in large wooden containers and watered on a drip system. The owner of told me Disney had spent TWO MILLION DOLLARS on ONE SINGLE TREE at one of their parks. TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR ONE TREE. They wanted a specific size, shape, and age for their tree, and they put down the money for it. This reclaimed tree yard was in SoCal, and Disney was a frequent customer of theirs. The amount of care and attention to detail put into their landscapes in astonishing, plus all the actual maintenance and irrigation that goes into maintaining the landscapes, all of which happens during the hours the park is closed so the guests are none the wiser! Omg, and the idea of turning your theme park into a Botanical garden because it’s an easier, cheaper option is HILARIOUS to me. Clearly an idea conceived by someone who has never worked for a public garden. Just wow.

[@pennifold]

So true! Even with the extravagant cost of planting to full density (rather than just planning to propogate/split and fill in every season as I do in my gardens), it still takes years of care for a garden to actually look amazing. Landscapes are massive investments of time. If something looks ‘grown in’ right off new construction… that might be the most expensive square footage you’ve ever witnessed outside a skyscraper!

[@benvoliothefirst]

@@pennifold The actors performing in front of saplings still in buckets... ROFLCOPTER

[@Pyro627]

I kept thinking about this watching the video. The park would benefit a lot from more trees, yeah... but holy shit, trees are EXPENSIVE.

[@limehawk4989]

This is just sad considering how they actually treated workers according to the accounts in this comment section

[@janeeyre1990]

@@limehawk4989 , I think that laborers who build, landscape, and/or clean middle-class and upper middle-class attractions are generally not treated well. The climate crisis, global health crisis, and financial crisis have really exacerbated the social divide between the "haves" and "have nots" here in the US. And based on world news, it is probably the same elsewhere. Qatar, for example: wealthy athletes and sports enthusiasts from around the world are traveling to a stadium built by abused and mistreated workers.

[@vanilloia7479]

maybe i'm just european, but watching footage from the park i cant help but be awed by the mountains. im not even noticing the office buildings, dont you see THE THING on the horizon?

[@user-zr9hu3tf1y]

youre in a flat country? no alps or carpathians or fjord things nearby?

[@vanilloia7479]

​@@user-zr9hu3tf1y 'nearby' is relative. the alps are close-ish, but very much not 'look out your window, theres a mountain' close. I#m used to the gentle slopes of river valleys

[@vanilloia7479]

@user-zr9hu3tf1y 'nearby' for europe means 'under 20minutes by car'. I could get to the alps in a day, i guess, but they arent There every day

[@stbananastein]

I feel this! The backdrop is stunning, those mountains just draw the eye on film. I'm sure the office parks are more noticable at night, when their parking lots are all lit up but the mountains aren't

[@Peastable]

Utah has some pretty cool natural scenery. Arches national park is a particularly unique area. I’m from Idaho, just north of Utah and still very much in the area of the Rockies, and it is pretty sick to be right there. Regardless, “within a 20 minute drive” is still a pretty tall order for any kind of cool scenery.

[@Andrewbert109]

I have no doubt that their website is run by a third party. It's just that the third party is almost certainly Bretschneider's drummer nephew so he can add "Web developer for theme parks" to his resume. Right under "drummer signed to major label"

[@lichkingsservant4111]

Building a Satyr version of the springlock suits from FNAF, causing an employee to get severely wounded in the legs, and then releasing a company email telling employees to blame the Dark Elves and ending with a bad joke about the performers injury is still one of the craziest things that I have ever seen.

[@solitairequeen420]

"break a leg" to sign off the email is truly unhinged stuff

[@jacobbachman4014]

wait this literally is fnaf!!!!

[@julien4305]

​@@jacobbachman4014fucking Utah and all!!!

[@heyitzmae]

@@jacobbachman4014evermore is only slightly less mismanaged than fazbear

[@rhysbaker2595]

@@heyitzmae not quite as many dead kids

[@IsaacThomas]

***AUGUST 2023 UPDATE*** I paid a Saturday visit during August 2023 for the Mythos event. This is a list of the changes that have been made, or have not been made since this video was published Upgrades Made (probably in response to this video) -The Drakenhaven building is complete and is well decorated. -Two permanent maps of the park have been displayed! -Bow and arrow safety training is now mandatory! (In fact, it is so exhaustive and thorough that most patrons chose to walk away without shooting rather than endure it, including me. It’s seriously like 10 minutes long.) -I didn’t notice any exposed wire! -Axe throwing & bow and arrows are permanently included with the cost of admission -The aerial performers have moved to a more visible location -Evermore installed a pre-recorded audio storyline/mystery that visitors can engage with by pushing buttons throughout the park. (It has great potential, but it’s impossible to follow the story or solve the mystery because several buttons don’t work. But this is a step in the right direction!) -The Skype aspect of Louden’s Rest (the crypt building) has been removed! It’s now just a cool portal to take selfies with. (There’s also a quest button next to the portal that doesn’t work) -The lower level of the Louden’s Rest was open. (Nothing happens, but it is aesthetically stunning) -The summer lantern festival featured a handful of lanterns! -The fairies had wings! -I didn’t witness any cast members openly weeping or using pyrotechnic effects. -The cast members are still heroically always in character. God bless ‘em. -The lighting at night is still magical. Problems that have not been addressed -The church has made no progress. (Nothing has changed since opening day. It’s weird that Ken Bretschneider found money to build The Grid, but not finish the church) -The park entryway is still empty and lifeless. -There are still no cast members welcoming guests or offering instructions. (This has been a complaint since day one and would be free to fix. WTF Evermore? So many guests, including me, were wandering around confused. Help us out!) -Since every cast member is deeply in character, there is still no one to approach to ask questions like “Where is the nearest bathroom?” or “Where can I buy food?” or “Is there a gift shop?” It’s incredibly frustrating. -There’s still no signage describing attractions. I wanted to ride the train, but couldn’t find any information about whether or not it was free, where to buy tickets, etc (Evermore, help us give you money! We want to!) -Cast members still mainly interact with other cast members and don’t have much to say when guests build up the courage to approach them. -Quests are still meaningless. If you are lucky enough to find a cast member willing to give you a quest, it will be something dumb and nonsensical that relies on the honor system. There is no reward for completing quests. -The elaborate prosthetic costumes are still nowhere to be seen. -There is still no merch or gift shop available. (The third-party vendors host the only actual quest in the park. It’s simple and easy, but it was refreshing to find something to do. Finally! Somebody with basic business skills!) -Vanders Keep is closed. The food game is still really bad. (The website says Vanders Keep opens for special occasions) -Evermore still doesn’t advertise -They still use names like “Lore” that don’t make any sense to the general public, ensuring that they will only ever cater to a niche market of die-hard LARPers. -So many bugs. The spiders at night were ginormous. (Perhaps that made it more authentic?) -The park is still operated with the mentality that guests need to make their own fun. If that’s the case, what are we paying for?

[@abaliagoob]

Thanks for posting the update we all wanted!

[@lucaslanier5866]

Yo! Thanks for the update.

[@jp-wc4ce]

it's so weird that the actors can't/won't answer basic questions from guests... for one thing a bit of an immersion break is a small price to pay to improve their experience, but for another, every person in every time period in every fantasy realm needs to eat and use the bathroom lol. you'd think the actors could just call it a water closet or whatever. even a slightly more awkward question like "what can I do around here other than go to Evermore?" could be answered with smth like "other World Walkers have spoken about thrilling adventures they've had in a realm known as The GRID!" like... it doesn't seem that complicated lmao anyway thanks for the update!

[@jessnut4967]

I worked at the local Ren Faire and we got asked for directions to bathrooms, what time was it, what time shows were, etc. ALL THE TIME. And we had in character answers prepped for all of that. We also had in character commentary on hand to deal with people ignoring you to look at their phones, or kids running around unsupervised. Event guests still needed to be treated like paying customers, not an interrupting spectator. That's where it moves from watching a show to being an interactive experience.

[@sampagano205]

Bugs aren't really a opt out thing in that part of Utah.

[@sparksparkle]

I've been falling asleep to this video nearly every night since it came out, I'm certain I make up about 20% of this video's views.

[@definitelynotashark1799]

I listen to this every night without fail. This video just recently surpassed my previous longest hyperfixation on a white noise for sleep 🫠 It's also great for decompression lol.

[@sparksparkle]

​@@definitelynotashark1799 facts. I'm pretty sure I can recite it by memory at this point.

[@Iotuseater]

Btw the landlord of evermore has confirmed he will be keeping the buildings and FINISHING the unfinished buildings so there is hope for some whimsy themed attraction yet!

[@user-zr9hu3tf1y]

You're talking about someone who's going to try and prevent the closing of the park that's currently happening or what do you mean?

[@Iotuseater]

@@user-zr9hu3tf1y no the park has already closed. The landlord repossessed it (I think that’s the right terminology) but is going to keep the structures in tact and I assume repurpose them for a different themed attraction

[@SallyBerry9]

@@Iotuseatertbh, with completed buildings and the right management the park could work really well and the landlords will get more money for rent

[@jamesdrummond7684]

it's baffling to me that they didn't own the land it was on but i guess that's one way to do it on the cheap

[@jasonmichaelmorgan6207]

"But surely Utahns are within their right to file lawsuits if their children are immolated by a warlock." This sentence has never been said before. It is one of my favorite sentences.

[@blacklite911]

Oh my god, the next piece of media that incorporates fantasy elements in a modern setting must include mystical litigation

[@Savyon0]

I would think Utah, of all states, would be one of the MOST "lawsuit against negligent warlock"-friendly places you could be.

[@zab416]

@@Savyon0 Anti-child-immolation-by-negligent-warlock is possibly the most non-partisan take.

[@sassytabasco]

Sounds like a case that defense lawyers would reference in court for generations: "Utah v. Immolating Warlock"

[@Savyon0]

@@zab416 Finally, something both sides can agree on!

[@TheWickedWizardOfOz1]

The chef sounds like a great character to incorporate into the park: the artist that gets so pissed at other characters demanding alterations to his perfect menu that he challenges them to fights outside his tavern. If played right, he could become a fan favorite.

[@carlotta4th]

That would be hilarious! Evermore should lean into and learn from their past mistakes and the chef would be a fun nod to that. Some simple changes would immediately make the park better and cost nothing. Aka: implement basic safety guidelines for the archery, ax throwing, and pyrotechnics. It'd take only one or two minutes of verbal explanation to make all those aspects MUCH safer. And move the audience further away from the fire dancers for heavens sake. Lighting the paths seems like the next most important addition, but that would cost a bit of money to purchase the lights, so it would be understandable if they added this in segments.

[@TheWickedWizardOfOz1]

@@carlotta4th I wouldn't follow my suggestion, as the chef seems not to work there anymore (comments are saying that Vander's Keep closed), and it is in poor taste to make fun of a past employee without their permission. The *idea* is rich for a comic side character, and I stand by that idea - I just think that it is a dick move if a park fires a guy and then makes fun of him later by basing a character on a single interview he gave that does not give a full view of the person.

[@zakk3910]

A chef is a perfect spot for a character too, because they spend most of their time in the kitchen(backstage) and then come out deliver a scene and then return to the kitchen. Repeat an hour later when the restaurant is full of people who haven't seen it yet. It helps address all of the concerns about actor safety mentioned in the video and these comments.

[@TheWickedWizardOfOz1]

@@OpalBLeigh Yeah, the guy may be super nice and just had one hang up that he exaggerated for what he thought was comedic effect. Heaven knows that I've said lots of things that I regret and that are forever saved on the internet if people want to dig through and hurt me with them. Some other random character ideas: CGP Grey's pirates (a stuffy accountant and his much more freewheeling captain) would be a hilarious mixture. Steampunk Sherlock Holmes solving crimes and getting audiences involved in catching a villain would be cool. A knight trying to protect a rambunctious princess who keeps trying to escape and have fun, perhaps? The concept I have with all of these characters is that they would be fun, "basic" characters for new people to latch onto and have fun with in the front areas of a park, while more serious, darker stories could be placed in the back - creating a separation so that people bringing their kids don't necessarily have to hear Wen Weaver (who seems like a cool character) having an emotional breakdown. I think that a separation is key if you are marketing to both adults and children. There would need to be dedicated areas that are safe from character deaths and the like so that you can just enjoy an edutainment bird show or a petting zoo with real goats and imaginary baby dragons (another comment pointed out that the baby dragon is a HUGE marketing opportunity and I 100% agree - just imagine how many photo opportunities and fun stuff you could do with explaining this dragon to kids - it would be awesome). I think that this park has so much potential, and that new management or another eccentric millionaire creating his own park (with more foresight) could become something truly magical and amazing for people to encounter.

[@thrillcollectors]

Yeah I worked for him and he was really hard to deal with sometimes but overall a chill dude. His wife however (the one nudging him) is a real piece of work.

[@SongbirdNic29]

As an update, the park is now defunct. A good friend of mine was on cast and crew of the park since it’s opening and broke the news to me. A few days after he disclosed that, the website issued a “goodbye statement”. Shame such a wonderful space had such a disappointing underbelly.