Every dementor theory | Harry Potter explained

[@matrimcauthon8609]

Wheel of time is a huge undertaking but absolutely worth it. It's basically that series and LOTR that battle for the number one spot of my favorite fantasy.

[@logprb5048]

does it get better after book 4? enoyed the first 3 but i stalled out around the 4th, and havent given the series another go yet, been years

[@matrimcauthon8609]

@logprb5048 Most people who don't end up finishing stop around there or a few books before Sanderson takes over. I seem to be a special case where I just didn't hit the same pitfalls others have. I can say those who finish it pretty much universally say the ending was worth it at least that I've seen.

[@Annathroy]

ChatGPT is definitely not conscious. It is just very good at extrapolating data and mimicking human language patterns

[@alexg.9068]

As far as why Harry is so susceptible is because as the movie explains it “Harry has a darker past then most students his age”.

[@Deanolegacy]

Keep uploading - you're making great content with insane views - keep going.

[@Awec4]

Wheel of Time is 10/10 but Draghkar aren't driven by negative emotions, in fact they're quite like an opposite Dementor as they lure their victims into a state of ecstasy before stealing their souls

[@petadewar4720]

Hooray, a new video! 🎉 Only found you a week ago, it's been great to catch up on your back catalogue!

[@Shadowknight_Gamingltm]

I like my head cannon on where dementors come from. I believe they are wizards of old that was broken/tortured to the point where they felt empty. And in the time of their passing the "spirit" of the wizard brings life to dementors. And like a fungus the kiss of a dementor is the way they grow in numbers. To explain why they don't outnumber or there isn't a lot of them is bc through the ages is bc a wizard found away to gather them in one place with an orb of happiness (an enchanted orb filled with positive energy) to keep them locked away and only the minister knows where it is and fills it when needed.

[@MrPsyJak]

23:00 New headcanon - Peeves is born out of the Marauders' actions

[@magicjinn]

Unfortunately, he's in Hogwarts Legacy, which takes place far before the Marauders.

[@tcyb]

heres an idea for a video that bothered me for my whole life and i never have seen ANYONE talking about it. its a theory that all of the magic is science, just not understood enough, hence just called magic. for example i can make a feather levitate via vingardium leviosa. in magic words thats just a spell. in science thats... well, still a spell. im trying to say that you can make something levitate via some idk magnetic pulses or whatever. im sure it is possible in our world today even. in labs, sure, but still. so wizards just discovered some way to channel their thoughts to changing reality via atoms or something. and the wand somehow helps them to channel thoughts into these visible or invisible rays of power that connects to a feather to make it fly or a body to die or lock to be opened etc.

[@j-rey-]

30:49 - I just imagined 100 dementors shackled into the "Small World" ride at Disneyland being subjected, on loop, to all the animatronics of happy kids from around the world singing to them.

[@SnoTangerine]

I'll try to make this the short version of my thoughts. Here we go. As a Fantastic Beasts truther, I think the series could have been set up to explore this very thing. A more recent fan theory you didn't mention is that Dementors come from Obscuruses. JKR has acknowledged this as a cool theory once in a tweet, and it didn't seem like she was winking about it or anything, but who knows. Regardless, I think the amount of hints across the three FB movies towards dementors is actually shocking. I intend to make a video on this myself one day! But I'll give you the gist. Dementors breeding like a fungus from the decay of dead children who suppressed their powers and emotions, through abuse and fear and lack of happiness. Pretty dark! The fact that Harry very nearly could have become an Obscurial himself under the right conditions would make him pretty vulnerable. The FB films on the whole have a lot of thematic parallels too. There are motifs of memories, both good and bad, being key to the story. Patronuses also taking the form of animals seems pretty relevant. The juxtaposition between man and beast. The first obscurus being introduced in a cold environment. There are several lines of dialogue that also can be interpreted as hints towards the future of the story leaning this way. Leta telling Newt he's never met a monster he couldn't love. What happens when he does? JKR saying Newt's patronus was a massive spoiler. Why? Even if there are some leaps here, there's so much thematic precedent that I could go on and on. Debate the canon status of those films all you want, but I think the story was definitely going places. And if they were willing to retcon in some places, like McGonagall, I say go all out with the story. We'll likely not see that conclusion for a very long time though.

[@crispyandspicy6813]

I always thought the dementors were some sort of dark creation or creature which can't be killed, so the ministry uses for azkaban not only as punishment but also to keep them contained, since they can't get rid of them. Note that the only thing that's proven to work is the patronus charm which apparently only banishes them instead of destroying them. I think dementors were created artificially through dark magic and only recently, and they don't reproduce or multiply; otherwise as pointed out they'd continously multiply and take over the entire world

[@timmellor2599]

Could the dementors not be compared to Tolkein's Ring Wraiths? Once they were men, but now they live in an alternate reality. They are sentient as much as their role allows, but totally without pity. That allows them to strike the innocent as well as the guilty because they don't have pity for their victims

[@VaultLore]

Good call!

[@Loganberry]

Looking forward to watching this after work tonight :)

[@VaultLore]

Hell yeah

[@PoorMansChemist]

It's fairly trivial to show that if HP magic was a thing it would be destroying the world via entropy effects. When they cast spells they create highly ordered effects that have a very limited number of available microstates. Entropy can decrease in a system if it is increased elsewhere and this would manifest as thermal kinetic energy (heat). And we can be sure this would also be a thing in the HP universe becasue in goblet of fire we learn that magic interferes with electronics. Thus magic is a physical effect bound to all the same laws of thermodynamics as everything else. It's a good thing that there are very few wizards in the HP world because if everyone could do magic the Earth would experience global warming like nothing we've ever seen. Although if HP was real then it would be a 100% certainty that the "magic gene(s)" could be isolated and gene therapy could be used to make everyone a wizard.

[@cobalt6014]

Well jk said that there were 3000 wizards in the uk compared to a population of 57 million in the 1990 so realistically the muggle population wouldn’t really have to worry about wizards since they could wipe the wizards population in no time

[@The_void_calls_you]

We need to report this guy to the ministry of magic. FOR CORNELIUS FUDGE

[@giacomogalbusera]

the Lunchly easter egg was crazy lmfao

[@VaultLore]

Hahaha I’m glad someone saw it

[@Shadow-fb2ec]

Theres a similar power in one piece from a devil fruit user named perona She can basically send a ghost that goes through you which causes you to be depressed Not gonna spoil how she was countered, but its kinda funny and lines up with what you said about non patronus type counters

[@lukasgrochowski9315]

my fav youtuber

[@jonathank4278]

26:04 Like how something with pH of 2.0 ,and something with pH of 13.0 together will make Salt Water with pH 7.5 . Hydrochloric Acid + Sodium Hydroxide= Alkaline Salt Water.

[@BenHenrykyogreman123]

Woah I’m here early. Love ur vids

[@VaultLore]

First!

[@flynn_flann]

"In the war of power, worse than trollocs and halfmen were created"

[@sammotta7787]

New Vault Harry Potter video out? 10/10 day.

[@alexg.9068]

I’ve heard wheel of time is a good one. However I personally haven’t read it myself

[@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333]

I disagree. The idea that dementors feed on positive emotions is the real plot hole. They affect Harry more than anyone else because of the horrors of his past. They didn’t come to the quidditch match because of emotions running high, they came simply because Harry was there. They are fended off by patronuses which are invoked by positive emotions. They maybe able to drain away positive emotions for somebody who is vulnerable, but it’s clearly the negative emotions they are feeding on.

[@mr_yoru5834]

Dementors feed off positive emotions, but a person having real sadness and trauma in their past makes them more vulnerable to the side effects of being near Dementors. Dementors feed on the positive emotions leaving only the negative. Harry has relatively few things to be truly happy about at the point in his life when he first encounters the Dementors, so being around them leaves him with fewer reserves of positivity before the trauma and sadness take hold, making him easy prey. Another example is that Sirius was able to keep his sanity in Azkaban because he knew he was innocent, but that wasn't really a happy memory due to the injustice of the situation so the Dementors couldn't devour it.

[@XeiDaMoKaFE]

5:40 harry potter and the method of rationality fanfic is a beginning 😂

[@The_void_calls_you]

Also arachnids are nice

[@nataliaf.6289]

I have been binge watching your videos and this exactly thought came to my mind when you were talking about the thestral and how they are good but misunderstoodband helped in the battle, while the dementors helped the dark forces and I was wondering why. Its loyalty? They have political views?

[@VaultLore]

So many good theories!

[@salveteinfernum]

The more you described the less dementors sounded sapient. 🎉

[@Halifar2693]

How could it get more Sirius? He's dead! "buy" not "by these masks" at the 5-minute mark. Love the topic and the deep dive, if I may: you leave the texts you display waay too short on screen. Often you cut away from it, whilst it hasn't finished writing the texts. Often cutting to images (once even just a turquiose screen) that become more relevant after a short time. You should really leave these on a good 5-10 seconds longer. Wouldn't it have made the most sense, if Dementors were human beings after they received a dementors kiss? Would make absolute sense why they suck positive emotions (they were left with none looking for others) and why the dementors kiss is a thing, because they are looking to fill their own empty vessel with a soul, which obviously does not work. It would also explain their ruthlessness, even if they were to understand emotions still, they went through something so horrific and to get their own lifes back they start walking over other people. Like you get kissed - you are a shell unclear on what to do - with more decay (or w/e) you become the same thing that inflicted such pain on you. There'd also be a background, maybe some experiments gone bad etc. Maybe a magical suicide gone wrong. Of course it'd be helpful, if the "expert" on it, had any idea about world building, "thinking ahead" or any human emotion.

[@jeffreymorgan8687]

I think Voldemort didn’t take advantage of the dementor’s sooner was because it went against his plans of doing things mostly in secret. I think Voldemort preferred killing a wizard who was publicly known to be against him but to do so in a way that no one knew what really happened. So you would have some high ranking, out spoken wizard who would just mysteriously disappear. Everyone would be whispering, it was he who must not be named. And since they didn’t know what happened. Each person would imagine their own worst what if but they all knew it was Voldemort. But if he used Dementors, not only are they not wizard kind but they don’t do things in a hush hush wink wink manner. Therefore, he didn’t use them until wizards understood he was done sneaking around.

[@AlexB-vt5xe]

like, comment and Elephant is my patronus

[@magicjinn]

39:45 The ministry doesn't control dementors, they simply offer them a good deal. They will provide them with a steady supply of souls and emotions, in exchange for their services. Sure, dementors could wander the world and attack people at random, the same way you and I could hunt animals and gather vegetables in the wild, but dementors are basically "farming" humans because it is easier. That is the same reason they go over to Voldemorts side, he just gave them a better deal. More souls and emotions to feast on.

[@Batnano]

4:50 buy*

[@gadebu]

I am not satisfied with jk rowlings explanation for dementors multiplication and invulnerability. I would like to think that maybe if a dementor was defeated the souls that it had housed inside would all grow into little seeds of discontent, potentially each becoming a ghost or a dementor or something.

[@VaultLore]

Ooh interesting thought!

[@nataliaf.6289]

@@gadebu this reminded me of the mechanics of Madoka Magicka but I cant explain it without spoiling a plot twist. Basically this warriors witches fight seeds of despair and by doing that they create more seeds.

[@n.v.9000]

Harry Potter isn't a wizard nor was Dumbledore. Harry went crazy under those stairs, and Dumbledore was a psychiatric doctor that social service send to take Harry to a mental hospital.

[@apollocj1658]

Interesting topic, from scanning the video the chapter transition music seems a bit loud but otherwise I hope this video pops off!

[@VaultLore]

Sorry! There aren’t too many transitions, so hope it’s not too bad. Noted for next time!

[@jonathank4278]

I know a Cat that ran away because life was to difficult.

[@TheDriftingspliff420]

Azkaban was probably built to keep the Dementors in. But Wizard kind let them all out.

[@danielrhouck]

38:20 I like the fire-hose analogy too but it isnʼt quite right. Lupin says they cannot feel despair so dementors cannot feed on them. Itʼd be more like something that smells absolutely delicious (and not being able to not eat; dementors never seem to be able to just… decline to feed on someone) but breaks your jaw if you try to bite it. Trying to bite it hurts, and dementors donʼt know how to not eat so they just need to go away.

[@FurTheWorkers]

Insects and crabs are probably animals that are conscious, but sponges and coral are animals that are probably not conscious

[@jonathank4278]

Plants have actions that is why trees lose their leaves in October to December.

[@norahmallett8564]

hippogriff

[@kairemeriniit]

Actually consciousness might be the first clear definer of life, though some species might have lost it. Sentience is what we share with plants, but not with more similar fungi. Closest to sapience are PROBABLY big cats, seagulls and pigs. Boombox with happy music is their food, negative emotions make them multiply, so you need no emotions... Also, Lord Voldemort is probably psychopath, which means emotionless, which means invisible. Like a God to them... Just sometimes flashing in out of - nowhere? Also, it seems dementors need other dementors to be born, like yeast. Not born, multiplies and needs yeast. Which would mean there is technically only one dementor. And my favorite species might be basilisk(s).P.S. Wheel of time series are great till book five, fourth and second are best.. Then, from the last book Jordan himself wrote it gets good again.

[@VaultLore]

I’ve got a whole script written for a basilisk video :)

[@irsshill4502]

No, scientifically mammals' life start at conception. The question you are asking Is about personhood.