Every Gym Machine Ranked by Exercise Scientists

[@jerryfox143]

this vid is D tier with no images

[@CanadianOffroad4x4]

Takes absolutely 5 seconds to search. Not that bad really but eh. Yall need a picture book. How old is everyone working out?😂😂😂

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

Dick tier

[@alexhughes6358]

@@Jimminityjabooboo mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@OneHunnitNoCapStannitOnBidnisz]

Your knowledge of machines and the ability to use google are both d tier

[@dinkyflix]

Great video, but it would have been very helpful if the editor had included footage and/or images of the machines they were discussing.

[@handybanana2274]

Maybe Greg Doucette's editor can moonlight for an episode.

[@karlmeaden6868]

​@@handybanana2274he'll be all over it the little ferret

[@DontStandForNothing]

Helpful for noobs... yes

[@unbabunga229]

Well it’s a nonsense video because machine brands are always completely different to each other. Apart from a few specific machines, the only benefit of a machine is you can do partials, drop sets etc a lot easier than you can do on freeweights

[@ofrilifshitz7518]

@@DontStandForNothing No shit sherlock, maybe that's why he said that, to help the newbies?

[@Merlmabase]

Gosh it would have been nice to have a visual reference to the machines and exercises being discussed

[@Karp_Dominion]

Skill issue

[@handybanana2274]

This episode is a podcast, just be grateful you get on screen visuals of these two sculpted Greek Gods *-wait, no, NVM, one of them is from Russia.

[@felixbermudez3782]

If you can't picture what they are talking about, then this information is irrelevant to you until you actually go into a gym.

[@IronMoose95]

​@@felixbermudez3782what gym has leg presses from 6 different companies. Have you been to a gym l?

[@ezhdeha231]

Be the change you want to see. Repost their video with whatever visuals you think are best.

[@matz4k]

As someone who is not having wet dreams about workout machines it would have been nice to have a couple of pictures, like you know, they have in the books I like most.

[@BuurmanDirk69]

Watch out man. They're deleting the valid critique comments

[@yasuh4550]

They do? ​@BuurmanDirk69

[@richrise4065]

@BuurmanDirk69Just google them, bro.

[@michaell3128]

​@BuurmanDirk69 really?

[@cmiel8499]

Opinion rejected As a regular gym goer, you have no right not to know all of those machines by heart Unless you, of course, are not a gym lover But then, why are you even here? To listen to passionates talk about something you don't even need in your life?

[@srleplay]

"I just don't have patience for one arm at the time" I felt that to my core

[@papaspaulding]

Same, it essentially turns 3 hard sets into 6 very hard sets ('very' hard as per essentially super setting one arm after the other) and adding to systematic fatigue and as a result lowering your overall volume. I used to do a lot unilateral in my first few years training but once you're lifting heavier im avoiding that sht

[@TheTehrancarroll]

Thing is the stronger side will always compensate. Harder to correct muscle imbalances and get a good mind muscle connection especially on isolation exercises.

[@OwGash]

Its true tho x)

[@papaspaulding]

@@TheTehrancarroll harder at first but not impossible, Once you know it's something to address it will actually help with your mind to muscle connection as opposed to relying on unilateral movements. it'll keep you in check

[@gariejoyce5263]

Cant stand unilateral exercises especially Dumbbell rows. Waste of time for me

[@Acontinouslean]

I’m shocked that when editing this video, they never thought to include a picture or video of the machine they’re referencing . The video would have been so much more helpful

[@aidanwebster75]

Alternate title: Mike Israetel glazes cam systems for an hour

[@positivelynegative9149]

🤣

[@peterbarrett5496]

Dude yer supposed to do a rankings list with the graphics on the side and put the images so we can see. This is like the most meat head conversation. I say make the editor add the graphics and repost.

[@ricardosarcar]

How is the conversation meat head? The irony. I don't need a list on screen to remember which machines are crap and which are not. To start with, RP isn't really targetted to beginner lifters. Most of the content are pretty technical that the average person going to gym just to get exercise wouldn't really care to know. There are other channels that are better for beginner lifters. Not having graphics isn't a dealbreaker for intermediate level lifters. Most would know which machines they are talking about without the images. If you really wanna know what machines they are talking about you can just pause the video and google search if you cared that much to know. Not a big deal.

[@wambman]

@@ricardosarcar it would be nice to have the images because when I’m not paying attention for 30 seconds I don’t know what machine they’re talking about. Also a tier list without an actual tier list should be illegal

[@peterbarrett5496]

@ o so you know what the matrix rowing machine looks like from memory? If you do, you are in fact a meat head. Furthermore u must remember it so well, that u could discuss the nuances of the force vectors which are slight differences of the geometry and loading methods. There is no way 99.99% of the people listening would know that, I don’t care how advanced a lifter you are.

[@AxeMurderer1983]

I hate to be critical-- but there's virtually no reason for this to even be a video when there's 0 graphics, this could have just been an audio podcast. No images of machines examples, and no chart displaying the machines covered and their ratings. It feels like the editor phoned this one in.

[@TwinsNicknMax]

You have to be in the fitness game for this to matter. For beginners every exercise is s tier. I know all the stuff they're talking about via experience.

[@BigDEnrgy1]

@@TwinsNicknMax Exactly. Only a dumb beginner needs this much visual handholding

[@ea6102]

​@@BigDEnrgy1Dumb beginner? Really? Everyone started as a beginner. Maybe they want to do things right so they watch vids like this to learn the most effective ways to workout but get confused because they don't know all the machines by heart yet.

[@dizietz]

Scott the video guy (?) was slacking on this potential 10 million view video by not inserting images, a tier list & b.roll. [edit: but we still love you guys and respect everything you do]

[@donkler5476]

Ok but let’s make sure to thank him for like 99/100 other videos that are perfectly edited. The editing on this channel is amazing. I just hate seeing the positive stuff get overlooked, and negativity rising to the top (other people are also saying what you’ve said), and then Scott the video guy might end up feeling bad.

[@Geomaster115]

That's Max the Editor Boy's job

[@dizietz]

@@donkler5476 yes you are right a lot of other videos have amazing work :) :)

[@alexbeyond99]

The guy with the timestamps and ranked graph, where you at?

[@Meatslinger2323]

I just learned my gym is c tier

[@daqfr]

Real

[@OptimalGluteHypertrophy]

Dw, these guys are pseudo scientists. A lot of what they say is the opposite of the truth

[@tiedänkö]

(If there are 2 ratings then Dr. Mike's rating will come first, then a vertical line and then Dr. Milo's rating) CHEST MACHINES 1. Chest press 1:44 - low B on average, D-S 2. Incline chest press 4:31 - B+ | low A 3. Pec fly 5:30 - low B, A with cam system BACK MACHINES 1. Lat pulldown (cable) 8:40 - C | low B 2. Cable rows 13:57 - ideally A, S (flexion style?) but in practice B+, A- | A- 3. T-bar row (Atlantis) 15:45 - A | high A, low S 4. Chest supported row 17:33 - B, A | high B, low A 5. Assisted pullup 19:51 - B+, A- or S | high B 6. High row 22:24 - in theory A, in practice C 7. Back extension 23:27 - D, C, maybe B | C ARM MACHINES 1. Preacher curl 25:50 - C 2. Seated bicep curl 26:46 - C, B if good | C 3. Seated tricep extension 28:09 - D LEG MACHINES 1. Leg extension 30:35 - D, B if perfect | C on average, D if bad, B if good 2. Seated calf raise 33:16 - D 3. Ab crunch 35:06 - B, A | A 4. Glute bridge/hip thrust 36:29 - C | low B, high C 5. Hack squat 37:44 - A, D if you can't bottom out | high A 6. Pendulum squat 39:28 - D, C | C 7. Belt squat 40:34 - S 8. Leg press 42:47 - B on average, S if perfect | B 9. Adductor 43:30 - A with cam system | A (only if it's actually relevant) 10. Abductor 45:39 - B, A (only if it's actually relevant) 11. Multi hip 46:35 - A, S (only if it's actually relevant) 12. Glute kickback 46:58 - D, C 13. Standing leg curl 47:52 - C | D, C 14. Seated leg curl 48:36 - A on average, B if not good, S if good | A-S 15. Lying leg curl 49:56 - high B | low B 16. Donkey calf raise 51:30 - C, B, A SHOULDER MACHINES 1. Shoulder press 52:20 - D, C | C overall, A for front delts 2. Lateral raise 54:10 - B on average, D if really bad, A if really good 3. Rear delt fly 55:52 - C, high B/low A with cam system | C, B

[@MrMighty147]

My 100€ bench with 20 year old dumbbells are S tier.

[@rockyevans1584]

My homemade with home depot items squat rack, bench and low/ high cables with my Walmart plates and adjustable dbs are right there too. Convenience is off the charts

[@Flahtort]

I mean, bench + dumbbells is actually S tier for how much optimal exercises you can do on it, as well as generally good ones for not as much price.

[@rockyevans1584]

@Flahtort a little squat rack and I'll agree

[@christianbeller5194]

Some pictures of the machines would help me understand this a lot more especially the difference between the S tier ones and the D tier ones

[@mayheamk]

imagine making a video about ranking the top machines without showing the actual machines!

[@WolfCoaching]

Thank you for having me Mike! More tier lists over on my channel 🙏🏻

[@lphtahoe]

You guys play off each other very well!

[@319jmp]

Could you guys do a follow up to this with a table of the best brand for each. Some brands were mentioned throughout but it would be good to know when/where one would pick an Arsenal vs Prime vs Panatta vs Atlantis vs etc for each lift.

[@lphtahoe]

I’d even like to see some of the more common big brand gym equipment reviewed. Techno, hammer, life, nautilus, cybex ……

[@bigirishballspogchamp4341]

@@319jmpwhat a fucking noob 🤣 they rated machines not based on brand (which is the fucking point)

[@annes8177]

How about e-gym Machines? How of a thing are they in the US?

[@alexcereuceta5907]

The arm exercises part felt soooooo relatable, specially how all the machines just hurt my elbows to the point that I cannot feel the biceps/triceps activation.

[@sheldongertel6341]

I stumbled upon your You tube channel the other day. I find them very informative and helpful. And entertaining as well. Keep 'em coming.

[@ryann8348]

The adductor machine is a funny one. When you don't need it, it's total trash. However, I once injured my adductors on a squat, and that machine became my best recovery friend. Also, I'm trying to get deep Side Lunges/Cossack Squats, and I've been using the adductor machine as a combo stretching/strengthening machine, and it's been great

[@dan_e]

I have a weighted vest that I bought years ago for some bodyweight work and that thing is awesome for adding weight for stair calf raises and pull-ups. No awkward hanging belt and no weird balance issues with the stair calf raises.

[@APDFitnessWellness]

I've had several people tell me how effective they are at burning extra calories simply by walking with them during a fat burning phase. It does indeed eliminate the weird balance thing when doing calf raises.

[@TheCrapOnYourStrapOn]

Yes that’s how I started too. I now carry a weighted rucksack with 185 lbs and do 4 miles twice a week at a 17:30 pace. 1850 cals per hour burned and massive shoulders are the result.

[@rlstrength]

Awkward sweating though and enjoy putting it on with 30kg in it. But yeah it's the only way to do weighted handstand pushups so I use one too. For pull ups I'd use a dip belt with nylon chain any day

[@abouelmo7878]

Bro I had to switch from my old weight vest to a kensui style plate loaded weight because I needed more weight and I cannot recommend it enough man.

[@TheCrapOnYourStrapOn]

@ I’m using a marine ruck (even though I was army infantry, marine gear is def better) with 185 of plates and dumbbells

[@joeaabb]

I love almost all of his videos but this is a waste because there are no pictures of the machines they are talking about (at least in the first 15 minutes.) This is aimed at gym rats not the general public.

[@TheSchmiddler]

The general public can use any machine. As long as they are in the gym and trying then that’s plenty. You don’t need to care about this stuff unless you’re an intermediate to advanced lifting gym rat.

[@NaftaliTheFoodie]

Where does fleshlight rank? Full ROM minimal forearm building in lengthened position

[@chromie6571]

Chest press machine that checks all of Mike’s boxes goes so hard (like me watching Mike’s content). The one at my Planet Fitness (I know I know) gives me the most insane stretch and pump I almost feel like I’m wasting my time learning other ways to hit my chest

[@JC-fj7oo]

I actually just switched because it's so much closer, and because I have enough equipment at home to make up for it's shortcomings... But they have the most intense calf machine at mine. I could barely walk for days. It is seated, but it extends the legs and bends the hips forward so it's like ultra stretched. In just the right position it feels like it's pushing my toes to my shin. That and the dual assisted pullup-dip stations are easily worth the 15 a month. Plus I find PF to be the most demotivating gym I've ever seen, but those machines face the wall so I can just get into my own zone.

[@yasuh4550]

​@JC-fj7oo i would be so curious to see what that machine looks like. Do you know it's name?

[@HealingWord_Psalm107-20]

I don’t know if you’re talking about the selectorized hammer strength machines. But I’ve used those at a lot of PFs and they are great.

[@JC-fj7oo]

@@yasuh4550 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4LIfZeJe6d2e68feature=shared In the video he's kind of using it like a dillweed, but properly set up it gets a stretch. It's also really nice because the footrest lets you easily turn your legs in or out to hit different parts of the calf. And there's no bars and plates to get in the way like there would be trying to Jerry rig a leg press.

[@rinkuhero]

@@JC-fj7oo it's actually 10 a month if you got a membership a few years ago (they raised the price for new members but us older members still get it for just 10 a month). the value of that seems insane, like even if you only use it once a week and only walk in and use one or two things you like there and then do the rest of the stuff at home it's worth it at that price. even if i had a high cost gym membership to another gym i'd still keep my pf gym membership as backup since the price of it is like cheaper than the monthly electricity costs of using the internet with a laptop and watching youtube. i've bought cabbages that were more expensive than i pay for a month of planet fitness.

[@thekentuckyfriednig]

I play soccer with a weighted vest, my lower body, core, back has become incredibly stronger since. Started with 8 lbs, then 12, 20, 32, 42, and now 58lbs. Best decision ever. The pump you get is intense, and just wait until you take off the vest 💪

[@gymstarjb-pp5fj]

Football dude. Soccer?? At least give its proper name

[@rdrrr]

​@@gymstarjb-pp5fjGo back to your menthol cigarettes and perfumed beer, EUROPEAN

[@lixion9974]

Just sounds like a speedrun to ruin your knees

[@VanDutch87]

I used to hate my gym’s chest press machine…….until I put a thick pad behind my back and it allowed me to get an insane stretch in my pecs. Now I use it all the time and have been getting great chest development out of it.

[@johnwesley2943]

I love how Dr Mike keeps on saying, 'mid-tier,' much to the frustration of Dr Milo.

[@JacersErasers]

I go to an 80s themed gym that has a lot of uncommon nautilus equipment. The assisted pull up machine you talk about is there and it does exactly what you said. Love it, love the content

[@markyperez7412]

Just start the equipment company!

[@beepbong]

This is the joocy content ive been waiting for Dr Mike. Started watching you in april and added in full ROM, Deloads, and set/weight tracking for progressive overloading and ive broken through years long plateu

[@CODKenny1]

Nice thumbnail! Dr. Mike is so good at faking 0 RIR :)

[@DiskoKDiskoL]

The guy with the timestamps, where are you?

[@The_Equalizer23]

And ranked graph…

[@lintera5157]

@@The_Equalizer23 let me know when theyre here

[@NickJennison]

I have an ACL injury, and while I’ve successfully rehabbed it (I recently squatted 230kg in competition), my knee gets VERY pissed off by isolation exercises that are hardest right at the bottom. I know I’m not the majority here, but I’m glad that most leg extension machines are hardest at the top.

[@burger9997]

Yep, especially when you have a patellar graft

[@s.wilson5675]

I'm guessing you might have tried some of Ben Patrick's kneesovertoesguy stuff.

[@krystelj3716]

⁠I had the same issue for years and kneesovertoes guy program helped me so much! Definitely recommend if you haven’t tried it 😊

[@theodoingstuff]

Damn, scott the video guy is getting lit up in these comments

[@Jensey90]

Always thought leg extensions were kinda important, because they are one of the few exercises, that actually grow the rectus femoris. Teach me lads!

[@Johnpdf]

they are dont listen to this dude he literally just says stuff then when he gets proven wrong denies it, everybody been saying long eccentrics dont do anything extra for muscle growth and its only when jeff nippard finally agrees dr mike tries to defend himself saying he never said when he has multiple times

[@non9886]

leg extensions are basics! for growth and for mind muscle connection. also for separation. and it is isolation so you can do it in supersets, don't tax whole body etc. i learn in my early days from very accomplished bb to do it as first exercise for quads...

[@Johnpdf]

@@non9886 ima be honest alot of what u said is just made up nonsense however u got 1 thing right they dont tax the body or the quads much, leg extensions are a shortened bias exercise which means they arent very fatiguing on your quads and cns

[@IronMoose95]

He gets teary eyed right before he put the Pulldown in C tier, he knew it was going to hurt

[@danielhewitt8]

I can't help but hope this video is a precursor to RP announcing a designpartnership with one of the Big equipment manufacturers.....

[@samstidham2235]

For those that are confused S is for small A is for average B is for big C is for cellular D is for do it!

[@BlackyBlackerson]

“If (machine) is a good one, it’s S tier, but if it’s a shitty one it’s low C tier.” Thanks doc 🤣

[@stevenjezyk9435]

Didn't know Wolf had a sense of humor 😂. Mid reaction to Mike was 🙌

[@Bertziethegreat]

What I've learned from this video is that the best machine for any body part is *checks notes* cam system.

[@footballlegend7531]

Feel like if you go to most commercial gyms, most machines suck, on average and dumbbells can give you so much better range of motion, easier for taller people and make your joints hurt less. I hate pretty much every machine at my gym as i’m too tall

[@non9886]

i agree with exception that if machine is usable it should be more gentle on joints than free weights...

[@TXhalfbreedfit]

Gonna have to do comparison videos now. Maybe a collab with garagegymreviews. Of course he focuses mostly on home gym equipment but would be good.

[@GalacticTravelers]

15:04 Rigging the machine for that extra foot distance for the win! Definitely S Tier!

[@lockofmetal8894]

God listening to your chest press discussion gave me such anger and relief. The one you call "S tier" is the one my gym USED to have a month ago. I really liked it. Then they switched for the "Hammer strenght" looking one, i found a pic on google. And i told my friend as i used it "i fucking hate this one, it's so bad." I don't even know why they switched out so many machines for absolutely dogshit versions. There was another chestpress for upper chest, that you pushed more upwards, which also made you able to work out 1 side at a time. They removed it too. Now you talking about them it confirms what i felt aswell. Which is the relief part, but i'm so angry they changed it. I will just go for bench & then with dumbbells, screw that machine :d.

[@eternal_hangnail]

It is absolutely acceptable to say mid tier in any fighting game community that I've passed through. Don't let em hold you down Mike

[@17jnewman]

Y'all need to come to my gym. Almost all body masters and so many of the old machines don't have the flaws you describe.

[@Funthomass11]

One very common problem I have with a lot of gym machines is that they´re made for an average height man so when a tall guy with long arms like me tries to use them, I typically don´t get enough stretch during the movement. It is so bad that I just ditch the machine completely and avoid it.

[@non9886]

amen! most of them are bad and unusable for me too. which is shame i would like more isolations and they are not so taxing for joints or so. they are also good for hard training without sparring or so...

[@hoi4nerd]

0:48 THE MACHINES MIKE , WHICH ONE IS THE BEST?

[@AnthonyGarcia-wb8xv]

Well, I'm glad this dropped before i wasted money on any machines

[@OptimalGluteHypertrophy]

Dude, if ur actually gonna spend money on machines don’t listen to these pseudoscientists

[@AnthonyGarcia-wb8xv]

@OptimalGluteHypertrophy i just want a nachine for leg volume wass thinking pendulum or leg extension/curl but now the video has me going back to belt squat

[@limitisillusion7]

Pendulum and belt squat are both great. Before you but a $2000 dollar machine, why don't you find one at a gym that _you_ like? I started wanting home gym equipment after the basic rack, bench, and adjustable dumbbells. Then I found a good gym that saved me tons of money and doesn't needlessly increase my carbon footprint.

[@hrbacon]

I love the preacher curl machine at our gym, I get good stretch, its hardest at the bottom, and provides resistance all the way through the exercise. I get a way better pump than any dumbell or cable curl variation.

[@olteanualexandru8250]

If you have a yoga pad , you could make almost every machine a S tire , back, chest , leg press etc

[@non9886]

or charles glass...

[@Galaxize]

5:33 The prime one set to have the resistance at the bottom is elite.

[@cussyrichards6121]

I've noticed that MOST Hammer Strength plate-loaded machines are leveraged to have the resistance lowest at peak stretch and highest at peak contraction. This includes their flat, decline and incline presses, their row, high row and preacher curl. Exactly the opposite of what you want.

[@AnthonyVenmans]

Exactly, it sucks, especially the incline press, it's all front delt halfway the movement all the way to the top.

[@DerekThorpe294]

Here's a good tip I learned from John meadows, add some bands to those Hammer strength machines. It fixes that exact issue by making the contraction part harder since the band is stretched.

[@cussyrichards6121]

@@DerekThorpe294 Isn't that the exact opposite of what is wanted? The Hammer Strength machines already emphasize the contraction too much (and the stretch not enough) and adding bands will only emphasize the contraction even more

[@limitisillusion7]

Hammer strength plate loaded pulling machines are excellent if you aren't too tall for them. Weighting your ranking of a machine purely by the tension curve is.... Short-sighted.

[@wistferal]

What is a cam system it seems to be the answer to all of Dr Mike's problems

[@Konoha-uq1ug]

why dont you make a gym machine company

[@ElijsDima]

Dr. Mike is *my* favourite gym machine...

[@babarskaskarolis6473]

lmao this got me

[@War624]

No tier list image? Lame. 😂

[@gariejoyce5263]

Just bought a Syedee plate loaded chest supported row machine. I paid exactly $200 For it, and they actually got the strength curve correct. Super heavy in the stretch position and super light in the shortened position. I was able to connect it to my functional trainer to add just the right amount of resistance I need at the top of the movement to replicate the prime fitness chest supported row . Funny thing is people were complaining about not getting enough resistance at the top , and too much at the bottom 🤦🏼‍♂️.

[@Notsostrongman375]

Interesting. Wish you’d do one for home gyms where it’s impractical for most people to have single-use machine. While combo machine do have its limitation, it would be great to know which ones we should look out for rather than saying that all of them are trash lol.

[@axlbreugelmans4567]

Watching and listening this to my full enjoyment even though I only train calisthenics and never touch a gym machine in my life 😂 That's the prove that this brings so much enjoyment and valuable information

[@bjkjoseph]

I had knee surgery because my leg was crushed in a trench and every physical therapist says leg extensions are no good. Don’t do them, the best thing for my knee sometimes I can’t even walk. I’ll do one set of leg extensions and it will make my knee feel 100% better. So I think there’s a lot of misinformation about leg extensions, I can’t think of anything worse for my knees, then hack squats, they hurt me when I was 20 years old, I remember I loved them, but they got to my knees

[@luxeayt6694]

Try sled pulling, highly recommend

[@chrisdoyle5646]

I don't know if Dr. Mike has done this in a previous video, but I would like to see his idea for the best home gym setup with the least amount of equipment.

[@ManlyManlet]

You need a guy off camera who will pull up photos on the fly for videos like this. Or at least add in pictures in the post editing. My caveman brain needs pretty pictures for association. It also could have helped reinforce your talking points to bring up the different versions of machines that are the best/worst variations of said machine.

[@BigBoyJay_69]

Yes! I had to keep searching up images of machines they were talking about.

[@quarkraven]

Mike, start the RP machine line!

[@JamesWard-s6v]

Where’s the ranking list shortcut? 😅

[@mrsuitcase9799]

Agree - footage of "best example" of each would be nice. Would be nice to see what you're talking about. My visualization brain doesn't work. Ask me to do quantum calculations in 17 dimensions, and I'm good though.

[@KayleKehret]

The most convoluted tier list I’ve ever seen. Back to free weights.

[@eyewitness4560]

Yeah, I'm pretty far along the way of consuming all of Mike's content on youtube at this point, and must say, this video just doesn't work without illustrations, sorry. Just like how the original designers of these machines had different ideas to what's important and what works, if people are left to imagine how these look like, there's literally not a solid ground truth to stand on when talking about them. I also get how it could be a problem to find good images without them becoming a blatant ad for or diss on gym equipment manufacturers... But you guys are smart, you can figure it out. Maybe go with some generic 3D art and make this mid-effort interview into a colossal effort 1 hr long video. I'd definitely watch it, that's for sure. 😅

[@nayr7757]

14:01 Mike the machines that emphasize the stretch like you mentioned are the STRIVE Strength Gym Equipment machines. Manufactured by Prime, in terms of machine construction along with the desirable translation of tension on the muscles. Best I’ve ever tried. You should do a series trying every brands “fundamentals” machines to truly see which ones feel the best and most ideal.

[@martnb6964]

I really enjoy your videos and also you and the Wolf ranking things. But in this video it would help a lot to at least tell some brands that offer good equipment. So i can use it for selecting my gym.

[@AlKadath]

Actually, the Cybex VR2 Tricep extension has a backpad that locks you in super well, corrects basically all of the issues you guys mentioned with that type of machine!

[@tommymcphee9741]

MTS High Row by Hammer is easily one of the top 3 back machines I've used. Pre fatigue your pecs first

[@noobclips1570]

I think a lot of companies make machines that make the movement easier where it is mechanically harder so that it “feels” better to use and allows men to use more weight because it’s heaviest towards the end range of the movement which I’m SURE influences which machine they use lol.

[@glooozo2]

Came to the comments to say pictures or videos of the machines would have been nice but i see many have already said the same!

[@limitisillusion7]

Video #129482 of Dr. Mike and Dr. Wolf obsessing over the stretched position. If I rank the reasons I watch this channel... S-tier: Dr. Mike is hilarious. F-tier: The monotony of the stretched position dominating every discussion.

[@guitarguygreg]

"Exercise scientist who couldn't even get lean enough to compete successfully."

[@moLOTOv-ju4gw]

I tore my hamstring and it didn’t heal right, but I can work pretty much all other parts of my leg with the isolated machines so I love them for that option. I much rather be in good condition and be able to do 1 or maybe even 2 exercises for my legs would be awesome. Because for years I couldn’t even do Bodyweight squats without limping out of the gym 5 minutes later

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

Nautilus flat press, Atlantis Overhead Press, Prime Row, Panatta High Row, Cybex leg press and smith machine, Ivanko or York plates, Rogue or Eleiko barbells, Ivanko dumbbells

[@CraicDealerEire]

The last 30 seconds of this video is hilarious after checking what the thumbnail turned out to be

[@BrysonPriceHealthAndFitness]

Looking forward to watching this! I’m curious to hear your thoughts..I usually focus on dumbbells /barbell since I always feel the most mind muscle connection without machines on most exercises

[@JosFlos-b3b]

29:34 The gym I go to has a Nautilus Nitro tricep extensino machine with a back pad. It's the hardest in the stretched position and gets easier as you contract. I love that thing!

[@Tjj2503]

whos going to be the goat that writes all machines and puts them in a list

[@w4rf4c39]

Happy new year everyone! Let’s make a point to spread positivity and avoid negativity in 2025! Uplift the good and bury the bad.

[@cussyrichards6121]

You can't really generalize across 'leg press' or 'seated row machine' because the different models of leg press and seated rows are so drastically different in leverages, tension curve, movement pattern and general mechanical design. It's like saying: "What's better - a Ford or a Toyota?" Well, which Ford? Which Toyota?

[@Paradigm07-cg7jt]

I want Dr. Mike to rate my sportsroyals all in one functional... It's solid D tier even factoring in cheap cost. The video he would make would be comedy gold.

[@vincentgelles3805]

Totally disagree about unilateral exercises, especially for back training. I absolutely love unilateral rows and even sometimes do one arm lat pulldowns where I sit on the floor instead of the seat to get an even better stretch. I get a much better mind muscle connection with one arm back movements and my back thickness and width have improved significantly since implementing them. I think they don’t like them because it takes longer but that’s crazy to me. I’m trying to make the most out of my time in the gym and if it takes longer to do an exercise but I get a better stimulus from it, then I don’t mind taking the extra time

[@non9886]

i definitely agree. to be able to do back work without locked shoulder blades is very important for growth and also for maintaining mobility...

[@PlayingCatchup]

2 minutes into this and the tier conversation already has me loving this video lol!

[@trumanhw]

If the stretch is as important as it sounds, wouldn't a row / back exercise analogous to the cable cross over be about best?

[@evrenseven]

My gym recently got a Rogers Fitness power squat pro, which I think has to be the best squat machine out there. Two load points, one easiest at the contraction and vice versa so you can tune your force curve. Extremely comfortable, as stable as possible, I've been milking it and DOMS for days. I highly recommend you look into that while looking for your Pit Shark, like you're gonna read this

[@roscocity9687]

This channel seems more like a podcast than a KZbin channel, I'd like to see more gym time than couch time.

[@tylerbetthauser7647]

I much prefer the strict pullups that Mike has taught us to do versus the pulldown. I have never been able to feel my lats in a pulldown.

[@QuinMacy]

As someone who's hype mobile the pec Dec works incredible for rear delts, though that probably only applies to a few people, I just have a large amount of mobility in the exercise allowing a good stretch

[@tmiller12051]

I wonder if there’s risk/legal reasons why people don’t build loaded stretch biased machines. Like rubber bands, muscles are most likely to tear at a stretch, and the uninitiated who lift too much and drop the weight into the stretch (most public gym goers), would snap their muscles so fast

[@emerson-sheaapril8555]

I wish they would flash a picture

[@ericmalitz]

Interested to hear more about the isokinetic back extension machine, but having said that, I think they missed the point of the back extension machine as a short range exercise. The exercises that Mike mentions don’t really work the lower back through a full range (with articulation of the spinal joints) the way the BE does.

[@Pienimusta]

V-grip lat pulldown is bomb

[@maxe6478]

Dang, hammer strength iso wide chest machine has been great for me, way more pump and activation than flat barbell bench

[@jrohello]

This was helpful but now I gotta change half my routine 😆

[@juanpadilla3203]

A lot of Mikes tier ratings depend on which kind of king you are